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Formal Introduction: My Skyactiv Mazda3
Gachinto
01-29-2012, 12:08 AM
Hey guys! I've finally got the time to prep my new car and post some pictures. :)
http://www.viclouis.com/Mazda3/front-closeup1600.jpg
http://www.viclouis.com/Mazda3/front-off1600.jpg
http://www.viclouis.com/Mazda3/side1600.jpg
http://www.viclouis.com/Mazda3/rear-angle1600.jpg
http://www.viclouis.com/Mazda3/far1600.jpg
I've used the new Mothers FX SynWax bottle liquid~
http://www.mothers.com/02_products/product/images/20016_20011.jpg
FRStan
01-29-2012, 12:33 AM
How much to fill up and range? Very nice :)
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TheStig
01-29-2012, 03:14 AM
Very cool, what are the old vs new fuel economy numbers for the new Skyactiv Mazda3?
kyoshi
01-29-2012, 10:12 AM
Grats on the new ride. Head over to bcmazda3.com and sign up as well.
Post up some numbers once the car is broken in :)
BlackZRoadster
01-29-2012, 10:32 AM
Whats this skyactiv edition? Someone explain please
TheStig
01-29-2012, 10:47 AM
Whats this skyactiv edition? Someone explain please
It's the marketing name for Mazda's application of technologies/strategies for fuel efficiency in their new cars.
Techtonics: What is Skyactiv? - Automobile Magazine Blog (http://blogs.automobilemag.com/techtonics-what-is-skyactiv-12133.html)
mehhhh gimmicks
:badpokerface:
Sky_High
01-29-2012, 11:53 AM
http://bkkautos.com/files/Randall_Mazda3_Smile.jpg
GotRice604
01-29-2012, 12:31 PM
congrats on the new car, always like that blue on the mazda 3 wagon.
Leopold Stotch
01-29-2012, 12:59 PM
friend just got one, he said it could get up to 600km, that's the funny thing. He doesn't know much about cars so when he heard 600km it sounded great til i asked him how big his tank was, and whether or not that was 600km in the city or on the highway. cause fuck, i can do 600km in my g35 on the highway.
k3mps
01-29-2012, 01:35 PM
please keep us updated with your mileage.
i got 11l/100km on my first tank.
although it was below 0 the whole week and it was 95% city
CP.AR
01-29-2012, 02:25 PM
please keep us updated with your mileage.
i got 11l/100km on my first tank.
although it was below 0 the whole week and it was 95% city
:badpokerface:
that's about the same as my 3.2L Full Size sedan....
k3mps
01-29-2012, 03:03 PM
:badpokerface:
that's about the same as my 3.2L Full Size sedan....
and i drove like a grandma that week
Gachinto
01-29-2012, 03:24 PM
I drove like a mad man whenever I could once the engine warmed, trying to push the RPM to 4~5k for breaking in. It was sluggish at first but now the power responded much better; I guess the ECU learned my pattern and I learned its.
The first tank did around 500km over 90% city. Right now the 2nd fill up lasted around 1200km.
Google'd:
Gas tank size = 14.5 gallons = 54.89 litres
That's roughly 11L per 100km~
Not exactly impressive for fuel but to be fair I didn't try to save fuel either! I will try to drive to save after next fill up and calculate the consumption.
k3mps
01-29-2012, 03:35 PM
your second tank lasted 1200km???
as in 4.5l/100km?
the first bar lasted 100km for me :)
then every bar after lasted 25-30km :okay:
Sky_High
01-29-2012, 03:42 PM
The first tank did around 500km over 90% city. Right now the 2nd fill up lasted around 1200km.
Google'd:
Gas tank size = 14.5 gallons = 54.89 litres
That's roughly 11L per 100km~
14.5 Gallon is the tank size, but that's the actual amount you top as per the pump/your receipt?
You're doing the math wrong...
Using 54.89L for 1200km works out to roughly 4.5L /100km
k3mps
01-29-2012, 03:44 PM
14.5 Gallon is the tank size, but that's the actual amount you top as per the pump/your receipt?
You're doing the math wrong...
Using 54.89L for 1200km works out to roughly 4.5L /100km
i think he meant the 500km in 90% city worked out to be 11l/100km.
which would make sense if he used his WHOLE tank.
because i did 430km with 47l, which works out to be the same mileage
btw, did you mean your second tank lasted 1200, or lasted until 1200
GabAlmighty
01-29-2012, 03:52 PM
But will it last 25 years?
FRStan
01-29-2012, 06:29 PM
If it last for 1200km that's really impressive
Gachinto
01-30-2012, 02:15 PM
i think he meant the 500km in 90% city worked out to be 11l/100km.
which would make sense if he used his WHOLE tank.
because i did 430km with 47l, which works out to be the same mileage
btw, did you mean your second tank lasted 1200, or lasted until 1200
Ya I meant the 2nd last until 1200km, so roughly 600km for a tank. I'm gonna do a more precise calculation with the exactly liters on the receipt.
Should I get an oil and ATF change now? I've heard that it would be a good idea to drain any particles and change the filter early. But a buddy of mine said it's not really necessary, maybe at 4k for oil change; as for ATF he said only 1/3 is drained usually, plus there's a magnet in there that catches everything? :confused:
Bonka
01-30-2012, 04:21 PM
Only the ATF at the bottom of the pan drains out. Most of the ATF sits in the torque converter so you'll have to run through the gears to drain the fluid there while another person adds fluid while it drains. The other way would be to do multiple drain and fills to replace most of the old ATF.
There are magnets at the bottom of the pan that collects particle shavings. Best to clean them if you drop the pan.
The owner's manual should indicate fluid change intervals.
too_slow
02-19-2012, 01:59 PM
How are you liking your car? Are you getting close to the advertised MPG?
I test drove a CX5 with the same SkyActiv engine, and was pleasantly surprised by how smooth it was. Yes, you'll hear the 'diesel clatter' from the outside due to the DI system, but when cruising, you can't hear it.
freakshow
02-19-2012, 04:42 PM
what's the advertised mpg? 11 is pretty sad..
too_slow
02-19-2012, 05:12 PM
8.0/6.4 for the CX5 AWD with the same engine +6spd Auto
7.1/4.9 for the Mazda 3 with the same engine + 6spd Auto
(Sauce: mazda.ca)
belaud
02-20-2012, 12:40 AM
Heh, my STI gets about 11.8L/100KM if I get lucky, its usually about 13L/100KM :(
Sky_High
02-20-2012, 12:50 AM
8.0/6.4 for the CX5 AWD with the same engine +6spd Auto
7.1/4.9 for the Mazda 3 with the same engine + 6spd Auto
(Sauce: mazda.ca)
You're also missing the fact:
Curb Weight: 1340kg (Mazda 3 AT)
Curb Weight: 1555kg (Mazda CX5 AT)
The Mazda 3 is FWD, so a better comparison would be CX-5's 2WD model:
Mazda CX-5 2WD 6AT: 7.7/6.1
Mazda 3 6AT Sky: 7.1/4.9
or.....
Mazda CX-5 2WD 6MT: 7.8 / 5.7
Mazda 3 6MT Sky: 7.7 / 5.0
too_slow
02-20-2012, 08:49 AM
^I was on my mobile.. too lazy to copy and paste each model..
Either way, I actually wanted a CX5 FWD with the manual (the manual is surprisingly nice). The crappy thing is you can only get it in the GX model (In the US, you can get the 6spd FWD on the next model up with the sunroof and heated seats) :(
taylor192
02-20-2012, 08:58 AM
How is this any different than what's on a lot?
PS if you want to take good pictures after a wax job to show off the shine, back lighting at night is not the way. An overcast day outside will show off your hard work the best.
Timpo
02-21-2012, 11:54 AM
11L/100km isn't THAT good...
wbean
02-21-2012, 09:21 PM
that's actualy kind of meh ...
my 09 GTI running a tune gets me 480-520 a tank avg city/highway
it's also a 55 L tank ..
on my MFD i get city (10.5l/100km) or (8.2l/100km) mixed
my girlfriend did a cypress trip when i was on holiday and sent me a picture getting (5.9l/100km) doing 60km the whole way cuz of the bad rain and fog
that's in a 2.0T ... last i dyno-ed it measured 235whp/255wtq ...
not a bad trade off for an economy car : )
Over9K
02-21-2012, 10:37 PM
11L/100km isn't THAT good...
What the fuck have you been driving?
I get around 300-350KM's out of a 60L tank.
That's around 17L/100KM to 20L/100KM
Not too shabby.
RabidRat
02-22-2012, 02:53 AM
What the fuck have you been driving?
I get around 300-350KM's out of a 60L tank.
That's around 17L/100KM to 20L/100KM
Not too shabby.
For a car with fuel savings technology so hyped up it has to have its own badge "SKY ACTIV", 11L/100km is pretty bad.
Hopefully OP will report better numbers once his car's broken in.
taylor192
02-22-2012, 08:51 AM
For a car with fuel savings technology so hyped up it has to have its own badge "SKY ACTIV", 11L/100km is pretty bad.
Hopefully OP will report better numbers once his car's broken in.
Yep. I get 11L/100km in my 1.8L SC, heavy (3500 lb) C230 with heavy 19" wheels and my lead foot driving 90% city.
I expect a lighter car (~3000 lbs) with a non-FI 2.0L I4 to be MUCH better than that.
!LittleDragon
02-22-2012, 10:08 AM
Yeah, 11L/100km is pretty bad for a car that size. I'm currently getting about 10.2L/100km out of my Sonata Turbo with mixed city/hwy driving and it's a bigger, more powerful car. Pure hwy driving, I've been as low as 5.9L/100km on my gas runs down to Pt. Roberts.
Great68
02-22-2012, 11:28 AM
Of the 38,000 kms I have on my MS3, my average has been 9.8L/100k. At least that's what the trip computer says, and I've never reset it since I've bought it. It also says my average speed has been 34km/h :cry: Damn short victoria city blocks.
You should be getting way better in your Skyactiv.
too_slow
02-22-2012, 11:28 AM
that's actualy kind of meh ...
my 09 GTI running a tune gets me 480-520 a tank avg city/highway
it's also a 55 L tank ..
on my MFD i get city (10.5l/100km) or (8.2l/100km) mixed
my girlfriend did a cypress trip when i was on holiday and sent me a picture getting (5.9l/100km) doing 60km the whole way cuz of the bad rain and fog
that's in a 2.0T ... last i dyno-ed it measured 235whp/255wtq ...
not a bad trade off for an economy car : )
German electrics can never be trusted..
The MFD on my Mk4,5,6 cars were all overly optimistic by a solid 15-20% when compared to the pen and paper calculation
bump.
any updates with the car? I've been looking at new car options and this one is currently at the top of my list. Just by reading the thread.. I'm guessing their fuel economy isn't near what is being advertised?
oh man only 11L/100KM? no offense but that is not the numbers I was expecting when Mazda advertises their Skyactive technology with great fuel consumption as the selling point :S
My 350's got 3.5L V6, and I'm doing around 12.7L/100KM in city and around 11L/100KM highway
570ish incity and 700ish all hwy on a 75L tank
maybe the car still needs more breaking in? How about the grade of gas you're putting it? I'm still pretty curious about the skyactive 3's (friend just got a plain mazda 3 5spd and I'm interested to see the difference in fuel consumption)
godwin
04-06-2012, 09:18 AM
Apparently Mazda3 is not a full Skyactiv implementation, that's why the CX5 has nearly the same fuel consumption figures (It is the first "Full" Skyactiv mazda product).. Honestly the technology boils down to a lot of production improvement on friction reduction technology on the drivetrain and more HSS in the body (Thanks China!).. hence that's why just a facelifted Mazda3 won't get the full benefit.
I think it is best to take a car for a test drive on your usual route.. and get the figures from there.
oh man only 11L/100KM? no offense but that is not the numbers I was expecting when Mazda advertises their Skyactive technology with great fuel consumption as the selling point :S
My 350's got 3.5L V6, and I'm doing around 12.7L/100KM in city and around 11L/100KM highway
570ish incity and 700ish all hwy on a 75L tank
maybe the car still needs more breaking in? How about the grade of gas you're putting it? I'm still pretty curious about the skyactive 3's (friend just got a plain mazda 3 5spd and I'm interested to see the difference in fuel consumption)
wasabisashimi
04-06-2012, 09:59 AM
skyactiv= vtec= hemi=FSI=ecoboost... all marketing terms i think.
Because it doesnt sound cool and new if you just call it= Super economical Gasoline saving Beasty engine.
Nice cars none the less.
optiblue
04-06-2012, 10:25 AM
What the, only 11L/100? My pig Evo is doing 14-15! Isn't this car supposed to be 4.5?
godwin
04-06-2012, 10:53 AM
Not quite, Skyactiv covers a lot more than just the valvetrain like the examples you pointed out.. Skyactiv covers things like exhaust, 4-2-1 instead of 4-1.. not to mention it addresses the transmission's parasitic losses.
That's one of the reason why the current 3 is not a full Skyactiv implementation is the 4-2-1 exhaust takes up too much space.
skyactiv= vtec= hemi=FSI=ecoboost... all marketing terms i think.
Because it doesnt sound cool and new if you just call it= Super economical Gasoline saving Beasty engine.
Nice cars none the less.
conflagrare
04-11-2012, 02:57 PM
I drove like a mad man whenever I could once the engine warmed, trying to push the RPM to 4~5k for breaking in. It was sluggish at first but now the power responded much better; I guess the ECU learned my pattern and I learned its.
The first tank did around 500km over 90% city. Right now the 2nd fill up lasted around 1200km.
Google'd:
Gas tank size = 14.5 gallons = 54.89 litres
That's roughly 11L per 100km~
Not exactly impressive for fuel but to be fair I didn't try to save fuel either! I will try to drive to save after next fill up and calculate the consumption.
A Z4 does 11L/100Km too.
belaud
04-11-2012, 03:05 PM
My STI did 18L/100....on stock :badpokerface:
I'm averaging 7.7L/100km on hwy only right now on my civic.... if anyone cares
roastpuff
04-11-2012, 10:07 PM
I'm averaging 7.7L/100km on hwy only right now on my civic.... if anyone cares
Hell, I can manage ~6.5L/100KM on my GTI if I'm heading down to Seattle or thereabouts and cruise at the speed limit. :fuckyea:
shantz
04-12-2012, 03:24 PM
Skyactiv...
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/1/web/3181000-3181999/3181934_349_full.jpg
k3mps
04-12-2012, 07:22 PM
i'm getting 9.5l/100km now
100%city
40% of it is on a cold start, my commute is 10min
RabidRat
04-13-2012, 12:36 AM
i'm getting 9.5l/100km now
100%city
40% of it is on a cold start, my commute is 10min
That's still barely better than the 10L/100km I get with my s2k, keep us updated =p
belaud
04-13-2012, 12:58 AM
Driving pure highway tonight, I hit a record 8.0L/100KM, IMPOSSIBRU!!!
Bahhbeehhaaaa
04-13-2012, 07:40 AM
=( how about my 2003 sienna, 79.1L tank Max mileage @ 350k. My tsx gets 10.9/km mixed city and hwy.
wbean
04-13-2012, 10:48 AM
German electrics can never be trusted..
The MFD on my Mk4,5,6 cars were all overly optimistic by a solid 15-20% when compared to the pen and paper calculation
okay so that'll be 530 km / 52 L average tank on stage 2 flash.
9.8l/100km average city/highway driving
straight out highway 600 on 52L = 8.6L / 100 km
i logged my mileaeg and fuel for the last 86k km and i get that almost consistently. better in winter actually
k3mps
04-15-2012, 01:12 PM
Went to the outlets yesterday.
My trip was 370 km 95% highway driving on 24L.
Worked out to be about 6.5L/100km.
I could've easily got it to 5.5 imo If:
I as going 100/60mph instead of 130/80mph which was the speed of traffic.
Didnt have the a/c cranked up the whole trip
Wasn't stuck doing 3km/h for an hour cuz of an accident
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