[FerrariEnzo]

Finally I see the City of Vancouver enforcing this law..

Quoted from Metro, if anyone doesnt want to click on the link and i bolded the important part..

Metro - Police cracking down on jaywalkers, unsafe drivers (http://www.metronews.ca/vancouver/local/article/1091864--police-cracking-down-on-jaywalkers-unsafe-drivers)

"Motorists, cyclists and pedestrians beware: Police are targeting jaywalkers and unsafe drivers with hefty fines.

The City of Vancouver launched its People are Fragile campaign on Tuesday. It is aimed at stopping and reducing pedestrian deaths and injuries as a result of preventable road collisions.

The multi-year program is intended in part to raise awareness of three behaviours that put people at risk: Pedestrians jaywalking, cyclists running stop signs and motorists failing to yield to pedestrians in crosswalks.

“A police officer will never forget having to tell someone that their loved one is dead because of a car accident,” said Staff Sgt. Earl Andersen of the Vancouver Police Department’s traffic section.

Const. Lindsey Houghton, spokesperson for the department, said police will be paying special attention to dangerous pedestrians and drivers.

The fine for pedestrians disobeying traffic or pedestrian signals, and for drivers failing to yield to pedestrians in crosswalks, is $167. The fine for jaywalking is $100.

In recent years, the city has vigorously expanded its bike-lane program, including a pair of controversial separated bike lanes through the downtown core.

That program aims to boost the number of new cyclists on the road, but it could also lead to a rise in fatalities simply because it will mean more people are on the road.

Coun. Heather Deal reminded cyclists to share the road and be aware of their surroundings."


For those that like to do the "Rolling Stop".. dont do it or be expected to pay $167 if caught and dont complain..

[Supafly]

I think a better policy is that if a pedestrians disobeys traffic or pedestrian signals and steps onto the road expecting the drivers to stop should be fair game as speedbumps.

Theres waaaay to many people that think they're invincible and that they can control traffic cause they're "tough"

[Alatar]

Now if only this is enforced on those wearing not just a suit and tie, but those in the DTES. Oh wait. That will never happen because this is just another City of Vancouver fundraising event.

[minoru_tanaka]

Vancouver, the city where only the middle class has to follow the law.

[Gridlock]

I'm always reminded that drivers hate pedestrians, and pedestrians hate drivers, but both are united in hating cyclists.

[melloman]

I think a better policy is that if a pedestrians disobeys traffic or pedestrian signals and steps onto the road expecting the drivers to stop should be fair game as speedbumps.

Theres waaaay to many people that think they're invincible and that they can control traffic cause they're "tough"

I would love to see this, more then once I've had to slam on the brakes for someone who's on their phone/ipod/mp3 and just blatantly walks into the street thinking.. "I'm a fucking boss. Everyone will stop for me."


Now if only this is enforced on those wearing not just a suit and tie, but those in the DTES.

I thought there was a 3 strikes your out kind of rule (don't quote me on it..) but if you get so many tickets, police arrest them and then we pay to give them 3 meals a day, a shelter and healthcare... :seriously:

[Glove]

Vancouver, the city where only the middle class has to follow the law.

I've never heard this before,

but thinking about it, mind = blown,

100% true.


How are they going to stop all the bums walking across the street downtown in rushhour traffic?

gonna fine them?

:fuckthatshit:

[Mr.HappySilp]

Idea is good but won't last.

[buddy]

I think the worst is on No. 3 Road between Cambie and Lansdowne ... any given day of the week, there are pedestrians constantly standing by the side of the road (or even the island in the middle) waiting for traffic to slow down then jaywalk to the other side ...

or idiots who started crossing the crosswalk wihtout a care in the world once the traffic light turn green on their direction, while they didn't fucking noitce their cross light hasn't change beacuse of the left turn light on ...

only 2 cars made it through the light, I can tolerate to wait inline (well, barely ...), the worst is the cars in front of you made it through, the idiot started crossing on the same direction as you has made it to the far lane where you supposed to turn into, left turn light timed out, oncoming traffic started to move, drivers in cars that you blocked looking at you like wtf while more pedestrians jumped in front of you since their walking light are on ... now you are sitting in the middle of the intersection doing last minute negotiation with God while wondering if the last car ahead of you which made it through the intersection have timed the whole thing just to screw with you ... fffffuuuuuuuuu ...

[falcon]

Kind of ironic that they changed (or are changing? I haven't been in Vancouver for 5 months) the speed limit on that section of Hastings because of all the jay walking, and now say they are cracking down on it...

[z3german]

Meh i think its fair game, cars shouldnt slow down (to let cross) or speed up (to scare the shit out of them) and pedestrians they should judge distance and have a courteous (as to not scare the driver) distance for jaywalking. I know Hong Kong they wont slow down to let you cross, if anything they speed up and that teaches you to make sure you have PLENTY of room to jaywalk before you actually jay walk.

Maybe im just a jerk though...

[optiblue]

I hope they ticket at 10th and Ash street! Cyclists always blow the stop signs and 1/3 don't wear helmets!
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[doma]

If I jay walk and get a ticket, id laugh in the officers face and tear that shit up. I know the dangers, I don't need a ticket to tell me.

[krazynuck]

The best is when they ticket bikers at UBC and you see them get tickets for biking without a helmet...that always makes my day

My biggest pet peeve is cyclists who go trough stop signs

[Mananetwork]

Idea is good but won't last.

Agreed! I'm not waiting for a fucking light the mainland. This is a busy city and people are causes when to cut through the street. Specially when there's no cars.
Can't remember when the last time I read about a person getting hit by a car. We know when to cross, we're not stupid!

It's a total money grab! In other countries you just need to watch when crossing. Fuck paying a fine!

[Excelsis]

i only jaywalk when there are no cars around, if cops pull me over for that i'm running..

good luck catching me :fuckthatshit:

for people that jaywalk when cars are driving and expect them to stop then charge them :facepalm:

[gars]

this is from a report from ICBC from 2007.

There were 1,861police attended traffic collisions that involved
pedestrians in 2007. There were 2,010 persons (including
occupants of motor vehicles) injured or killed in collisions
involving pedestrians, with pedestrians accounting for 96.6% of
the victims.
There were 1,868 pedestrians injured in traffic collisions during
2007, 2.5% less than in 2006 (1,915). The number of
pedestrians killed was 74.
Older persons appear to be at particular risk of death as
pedestrians. Of the 74 pedestrians killed, 31 (41.9%) were aged
61 and over, 5 (6.8%) were between 21 and 30, and 3 (4.1%)
were aged under 16. Of the 1,868 injured, 280 (15.0%) were
aged 61 and over, 377 (20.2%) were between 21 and 30, and
219 (11.7%) were under age 16.
Of all pedestrian collisions in 2007, 951 (53.0%) injury
collisions and 22 (32.4%) fatal collisions occurred at
intersections. Over half (64.7%) of all fatal
pedestrian collisions occurred at non-intersection locations. Of
these fatal collisions, 34.1% involved pedestrians crossing with
no signal and no marked crosswalk.
The top three contributing factors assigned to pedestrians (as a
percentage of total pedestrian collisions) were, in order of
magnitude:
(1) Pedestrian error/confusion (14.4%);
(2) Alcohol involvement (4.4%);
(3) Failing to yield to right of way (1.8%);
The top three contributing factors assigned to involved drivers
(as a percentage of total pedestrian collisions) were, in order of
magnitude:
(1) Driver inattentive (30.3%);
(2) Failing to yield to right of way (15.9%);
(3) Driver error/Confusion (13.8%);


I don't know why people focus so much on the DTES. A lot of people there obviously have mental health issues and/or drug addiction. I'm glad they put that speed zone there. If I were to hit someone there, it probably wouldn't be my fault, but it would, a) ruin my car, b) it would ruin my day, and c) it would give ICBC just another reason to try to f*** me.

it's a 3 block zone - and most of the people there can barely afford to pay for rent/food, you think they'll be able to pay for a ticket? Yeah, throw them in jail because they haven't paid, it will just eat up more of our tax dollars. Hit them with your car, oh wait, it just gives them a reason to go to the hospital and eat up more of our tax dollars.

I'm personally more mad at the guy in the suit and tie typing on his iPhone and not paying attention while crossing the street.

[XplicitLuder]

i jaywalk all the time to cross the street from where i park to work, cus its too far to walk to the light. BUT i always wait til there's tons of room :okay: cus i myself hate when a jaywalker makes me hit the breaks

ps : did i mention i always jaywalk infront of cops ? i dont plan too..but vpd is like a block away lol but they have yet to fine me, but now i dont know if i wanna jaywalk :heckno: Now im not saying i jaywalk to piss ppl off, its just that its faster to get to the other side , and like i said i always wait for there to not be any cars, and if there is one coming AFTER i started walking, ill run D:

[see.lai]

Now I'm gonna have to do a 360 check if i park across the street...
:fuuuuu:

[Gh0stRider]

why is only vancouver doing this? should be all cities

[StylinRed]

i see people jaywalk half a block from a cross walk or underneath a walkway overpass and im like :fulloffuck: especially when they have little kids with them


why is only vancouver doing this? should be all cities

probably because its such a huge problem in vancouver that it isn't seen as a waste of resources for police to enforce that law

[drunkrussian]

How are they going to stop all the bums walking across the street downtown in rushhour traffic?

gonna fine them?

:fuckthatshit:

hahah "sir, the fact that you're drunk in public, half nude and on illegal drugs is fine. But here's a fine you cannot and will not pay because you crossed the street to get your drugs without first waiting for the light"

[drunkrussian]

probably because its such a huge problem in vancouver that it isn't seen as a waste of resources for police to enforce that law

i'd have to disagree...in new york and other big cities the problem in the downtown core is waaaaaaaaaaaaay worse. And i think tehy enforce it even less. I really do think this is a money grab and a waste of police resources - for every buncha cops dedicated to this, is a buncha cops that won't be looking out for real crimes with real criminals. I don't even think the problem in vancouver is bad at all.

With that said, if stats show that this causes shitloads of deaths, i'm all for curbing it! Which it looks like it does...

fuuuu gonna have to stop jaywalking from bentall to royal centre now, that must be a hub for this

[RiceIntegraRS]

I jayrun......is that the same thing?

Its been said b4, people think there invincible when they are walking. Thats why when i have to cross a road. I run.
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[ntan]

I personally find that a system where pedestrians yielding to cars more efficient.

After coming back from Hong Kong, they have a system where cars have right-of-way (At least it appeared so). Cars were able to freely turn on a green light and traffic was no longer being impeded. Although pedestrians would pile-up at the corner, it wouldn't be too long before we could walk (or wait for the pedestrian cross-light to signal us to cross). Furthermore, jaywalking was strictly enforced there, so less people would cross when the pedestrian cross-light was no longer white (or green, or whatever you want to call it).

Here in Vancouver, pedestrians don't really care what the pedestrian cross-light says. They cross when its white, or even when its amber. This prevents cars from being able to turn right, thereby impeding traffic and causing traffic jams. Pedestrians have just as much of an ability to prevent accidents. I often see pedestrians crossing the street at cross-walks but are completely oblivious to oncoming cars. Their rationale might be that they have right-of-way, but a little common sense would tell you that you shouldn't cross when cars are a few meters away from the cross-walk, and chances are, won't be able to stop in time for you.

I'm glad they're finally enforcing jaywalking here and continue to push more responsibilities onto pedestrians to prevent accidents.

[vafanculo]

I'd like to see pedestrians who cross, even at legitamite crossings, ticketed if they walk right through with their head down and texting.
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[TheKingdom2000]

This is honestly what goes through my mind in these situations...



When i'm driving and someone is Jay Walking... :seriously: :fuuuuu:



When i'm the person Jay Walking... :troll: :fuckthatshit:

[dhawes]

I think the worst is on No. 3 Road between Cambie and Lansdowne ... any given day of the week, there are pedestrians constantly standing by the side of the road (or even the island in the middle) waiting for traffic to slow down then jaywalk to the other side ...


Few days ago guy on the island on No. 3, traffic is flowing (green light) he decides to be a "boss" steps out and stares down the minivan driving towards him, driver honks and PLOWS into him. Dude does a 360 spin in the air and lands on his back with his hands and legs in the air stiff like a dead rat.

Felt bad for the driver, looked like some significant damage.

[The_AK]

Good luck enforcing this on Hastings and Main, pretty much zombie central

[twitchyzero]

i guess it's still okay to jaywalk on UBC campus..cause technically it's not City of Vancouver:alonehappy:

[InvisibleSoul]

Was on Seymour today outside of The Bay and saw those words written on the street.

Considered walking to the end of the block to cross the street, but then was like :fuckthatshit: and jaywalked right across the words.

Ooh, we got a badass over here!

[dat_steve]

pretty much everyone jaywalks but like someone mentioned above, i'd draw the line when a jaywalker makes a motorist brake and yield. i has no beef with all jaywalkers, only those that don't show courtesy.

[goo3]

Here in Vancouver, pedestrians don't really care what the pedestrian cross-light says. They cross when its white, or even when its amber.

Well, you have the red light, so you're supposed to yield. That walk/don't walk indicator has nothing to do with you. It doesn't give you the right to do anything.

[FerrariEnzo]

I dont think this enforcement is MEANT only on the section of hasting and main st... City of Vancouver consist of more then that... lol theres a few comments about it...


I agree that people who cross the roads think they have the right of way, even court favours this when it goes to court, so thats why pedestrians think they own the road when they step out..


I hate when im making a turn, i stop at the stop line, look for people walkig at the cross walk, turn my head to check for traffic, then i roll out... few feet from the cross walk, some idiot runs across coz they are lazy to walk a few feet to the damn cross walk...

[drunkrussian]

^its because the article lists thr five most dangerous intersections and hastigs and main along with some other shady ones are at the top. so if theyrr enforcing based on stats they should be targetting those, but of course they wont be cause its a cash grab
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[gars]

^its because the article lists thr five most dangerous intersections and hastigs and main along with some other shady ones are at the top. so if theyrr enforcing based on stats they should be targetting those, but of course they wont be cause its a cash grab
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How do you enforce the jaywalking law at hastings and main? The fines are only a deterrence if you can afford to pay them. Short of putting a 6' fence all along Hastings street, there isn't much you can do to enforce that law there. I'm all for putting the speed zone there - because it will just reduce accidents there.

[winson604]

I think a better policy is that if a pedestrians disobeys traffic or pedestrian signals and steps onto the road expecting the drivers to stop should be fair game as speedbumps.

Theres waaaay to many people that think they're invincible and that they can control traffic cause they're "tough"

When I was in Beijing this past year one of the things I noticed were pedestrians would NOT fuck around and try to be tough. In fact it's so opposite there that cars don't give a fuck if it's their right of way or not they just go right through and you best not be in their way. Green light for you to cross the street? Best think twice before crossing because the car sitting at the Red will turn right anyways.

[drunkrussian]

How do you enforce the jaywalking law at hastings and main? The fines are only a deterrence if you can afford to pay them. Short of putting a 6' fence all along Hastings street, there isn't much you can do to enforce that law there. I'm all for putting the speed zone there - because it will just reduce accidents there.

totally agree. I was merely explaining to the guy why people in this thread are talking about that particular intersection - it's becuase this article says the law is based on stats of which intersections are the worst, and logically you would think they would do something there, but of course they won't, because it's hard to enforce and much easier to take money from people who have it