[ShadowBun]

Hey guys

Just read about it. Anyone under this?


What kind of car would qualify?
Seems interesting. Want to get one. Any suggestions?

[BorLorBao]

ICBC | Collector vehicles (http://www.icbc.com/registration-licensing/specialty-vehicles/collector-vehicles)

[mb_]

Here's some info I got from ICBC's website

Collector plates are special licence plates that show your vehicle is a real classic—while letting you save money on insurance, too.
With collector plates and insurance, you can drive for pleasure and go to car club events. However, there are driving restrictions.
Does my vehicle qualify for collector plates?
You can get collector plates for passenger vehicles, vans, light trucks and motorcycles.

To qualify, your vehicle must be
at least 25 years old, or
at least 15 years old and a limited-production model (1500 or fewer manufactured worldwide for that model year), or
at least 15 years old, with no vehicles of any kind built by its manufacturer for at least five years.
Your vehicle must also be
in exceedingly good condition (including no dents, scratches, chips in the paint and/or rust);
maintained or restored to a condition that ICBC considers to be of collectible value, and
the vehicle must remain in the same condition as represented in your original application for collector plates.
Top 5 most common reasons a vehicle may be not be accepted for collector plates:
Poor quality photos - Keep your hand steady! Blurry photos or photos taken too far away make it difficult to show the vehicles current condition.
Poor vehicle Condition - This may seem obvious, but a reminder that vehicles with dents, paint chips, scratches, rust, and/or rips or damage to any part of the interior are unlikely to pass.
Non era-correct parts - A CD player in a 1955 Ford T-Bird? Sorry. Non era parts like stereo equipment, wheels or performance parts will not be accepted. See the approved parts list for more info.
Incomplete vehicle - It's not push-pull or drag! Collector plates cannot be applied to vehicles missing parts such as mouldings, name plates or decals.
Approved stickers only - Club car stickers or Combat Auto Theft (C.A.T.) sticker are OK.
For more information, see the collector vehicle application form (PDF).

How do I apply for collector plates?
Fill out an application (PDF) to have ICBC designate your vehicle a collector vehicle. Forms are also available from Autoplan brokers.
Photograph your vehicle, following the instructions on the application form.
Take the completed application and photos to an Autoplan broker or mail them to ICBC (see application form for details).
ICBC will review the application. If your vehicle qualifies, the approved application will be sent back to you. Typically, the review and processing takes about three weeks.
After receiving your approved application, contact your broker to order your plates.
Your plates should be ready for you to pick up at the Autoplan broker in about four working days. (It's a good idea to call first to make sure the plates have arrived.)
Insuring your collector vehicle
Once your vehicle has collector status and plates, you can insure it. If you live in the Lower Mainland or Fraser Valley, the vehicle must pass an AirCare test..
Driving restrictions
Pleasure use: Vehicles with collector plates are restricted to pleasure use only. With collector vehicles, you may never drive to work or school.
Important: Driving a vehicle with collector plates for reasons other than pleasure use could void your insurance.
Driving after dark: If your vehicle doesn't have the lights and reflectors required by the Motor Vehicle Act Regulations, you may not drive it between half an hour after sunset and half an hour before sunrise.

ICBC | Collector vehicles (http://www.icbc.com/registration-licensing/specialty-vehicles/collector-vehicles)

[ShadowBun]

Alright.

Are there any good sites for local used cars other than craigslist?

I personally do not know any 25 years old or older cars that would be good... suggestions?

[Rich Sandor]

don't even think about getting a 25year old car just so you can get collectors plates to drive around on cheap insurance.

the collectors plates are meant to be used for 'show and shine' type of vehicles, on weekends and with low KMs per year.

If you get busted daily driving a car with collectors plates, you may not be covered if it gets in an accident.

[mb_]

IMO I'd only get collector plates if I owned a car that I really wanted and qualified for it

and if I remember correctly you need to have another car insured with regular plates/insurance

[ShadowBun]

don't even think about getting a 25year old car just so you can get collectors plates to drive around on cheap insurance.

the collectors plates are meant to be used for 'show and shine' type of vehicles, on weekends and with low KMs per year.

If you get busted daily driving a car with collectors plates, you may not be covered if it gets in an accident.

The car wont be a daily driven car.
maximum of once to twice a week. That's why I thought about this.

There's 2 cars currently under regular insurance right now

[bcrdukes]

I'm on my second collector plated motorcycle/scooter.

First one was a 1974 Vespa 90. Now my second one is a 1979 Yamaha SR500. I tried to get my 1978 Alfa Romeo Spider collector plated but before I could do the necessary modifications, a private collector bought it from me.

Listen to what Rich Sandor said. Do not get one just to simply get around with cheap insurance. Collector plated vehicles/motorcycles/scooters are not meant for that purpose. They are simply to preserve the integrity of the vehicle, as-is. And like he mentioned, if something happens to it and heaven forbid anything does happen to it - no amount of lubrication of any sort can save your ass from the raping-to-be you'll receive from ICBC.

Unless it is within your intention to simply have a collector of a specific vehicle you personally have an affection for, be it American muscle, classic Japanese, or rustic Italians, go for it. You have to remember - owning a third vehicle (or collector in this case) is fundamentally an extra expense. Otherwise, I suggest saving your pennies to compensate for the rising cost of gas this summer.

[godwin]

As long as it is for pleasure use then it is fine. Remember things like stock radio etc counts.. accessories must be period correct.. eg no CD players in a 70s vehicle. The process is straight forward and you only need to Aircare once.

The car wont be a daily driven car.
maximum of once to twice a week. That's why I thought about this.

There's 2 cars currently under regular insurance right now

[GabAlmighty]

The application process is pretty lengthy. I was going to try and get my Volvo's under them but it's a pain in the ass, that and you can't mod them.

[firebird79_00]

Has to be all stock. And with collector plates you can drive it as much as you want......but you cant drive it to get grocerys etc. Its purely meant for driving around or going to a show and shine.

[godwin]

You got it confused with Vintage Vehicle

ICBC | Vintage vehicles (http://www.icbc.com/registration-licensing/specialty-vehicles/vintage-vehicles)

With collectors you CANNOT drive to work/school but for PLEASURE use only; so you cannot "drive it as much as you want".. ie you can go get groceries as long as you don't work at the grocery store as a grocer.

You can mod it as long as it is period correct.

Has to be all stock. And with collector plates you can drive it as much as you want......but you cant drive it to get grocerys etc. Its purely meant for driving around or going to a show and shine.

[twitchyzero]

The application process is pretty lengthy. I was going to try and get my Volvo's under them but it's a pain in the ass, that and you can't mod them.not hating on volvo's..but i would be surprised to see this with collector's plate.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/27113_10150133074945004_541465003_11140681_6748944 _n.jpg

[godwin]

One of my friends have a AMC Spirit on Collector's plate.. as long as the car is straight and true, well kept and have a decent set of picture taken.. the Collector's plate is actually quite easy to get.

not hating on volvo's..but i would be surprised to see this with collector's plate.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/27113_10150133074945004_541465003_11140681_6748944 _n.jpg

[twitchyzero]

yeah that makes sense...how many AMCs are left in vancouver?
yet I still see a visible amount of 80's volvo...few in conditions that are worthy of a CP

[firebird79_00]

You got it confused with Vintage Vehicle

ICBC | Vintage vehicles (http://www.icbc.com/registration-licensing/specialty-vehicles/vintage-vehicles)

With collectors you CANNOT drive to work/school but for PLEASURE use only; so you cannot "drive it as much as you want".. ie you can go get groceries as long as you don't work at the grocery store as a grocer.

You can mod it as long as it is period correct.

I have collector plates on my car, i know the deal. You CANNOT drive it to get grocerys, its pleasure use only! Meaning if i wanted to drive my car around the world im fine, but if its parked outside a grocery store and get hit your on your own. I know this shit cause ive been through that before.

[Sky_High]

^ So you can "pleasurely" drive your car around the word for 365 days....but you're not allowed to stop by McDonalds or Safeway to grab food?

:fulloffuck:

[ShadowBun]

lol what the

[ProBoostin]

^
No you can go anywhere you want and drive as much as you want if it's for personal use as long as it's not to work or school or for commercial use. My dad has 2 cars with collector plates, but you have to have another car as a daily driver with regular insurance.

[ShadowBun]

yes theres 2 cars with regular insurance

started the thread hoping to get some insights as what current collectors are driving

[RabidRat]

I have collector plates on my car, i know the deal. You CANNOT drive it to get grocerys, its pleasure use only! Meaning if i wanted to drive my car around the world im fine, but if its parked outside a grocery store and get hit your on your own. I know this shit cause ive been through that before.

I don't understand why you can't go to the grocery store under "pleasure use".

It's not like you work there, why the hell can't shopping fall under "pleasure"??

[bcrdukes]

started the thread hoping to get some insights as what current collectors are driving

You'll see some older 70s and 80s Mercedes-Benz and BMWs rolling around on Collector plates. Some domestics of all sorts but at this point, if you can find a decent Toyota Cressida in tip top shape, they should be eligible.

You'll also see some Porsche 911SC/Carerras, Alfa Romeo Spiders, Triumph and MGs rolling around with them as well.

There was a Revscene member who had a DA chassis Acura Integra GS-R with the B17A engine which qualified for Collectors but those are hard to come by. I recall Tapioca mentioning that he has one but is a daily driver.

[1990TSI]

"at least 15 years old, with no vehicles of any kind built by its manufacturer for at least five years."


Eagle Talon anyone?

or would the mitsubishi/chrysler family take that away?

[bcrdukes]

"at least 15 years old, with no vehicles of any kind built by its manufacturer for at least five years."


Eagle Talon anyone?

or would the mitsubishi/chrysler family take that away?

^
The DSM family would disqualify it.

[1990TSI]

^
The DSM family would disqualify it.

that's understandable :(

would be nice!

[JordanLee]

I wonder how you'd prove that a 2001 Type R only had apparently 1500 copies in that model year. Honda/Acura never officially stated it but it does float around a lot. Some 97 Rs should qualify now too.

[1990TSI]

I wonder how you'd prove that a 2001 Type R only had apparently 1500 copies in that model year. Honda/Acura never officially stated it but it does float around a lot. Some 97 Rs should qualify now too.

1500 world wide?

[bcrdukes]

I wonder how you'd prove that a 2001 Type R only had apparently 1500 copies in that model year. Honda/Acura never officially stated it but it does float around a lot. Some 97 Rs should qualify now too.

You would need an official letter from Honda/Acura Canada or North America to certify that the Type Rs were limited to only 1500 production models.

Porsche North America is a good manufacturer who does this for their customers.

As for BMW... :heckno:

[twitchyzero]

I wonder how you'd prove that a 2001 Type R only had apparently 1500 copies in that model year. Honda/Acura never officially stated it but it does float around a lot. Some 97 Rs should qualify now too.

link them to the registry :troll:
2001 Acura Integra Type R (http://www.integratyper.org/usdm/2001.htm)

[Adrenaline Rush]

Speaking of special plates, does anyone have "modified" plates? If so, how do the rates compare with regular insurance and how modified does the car have to be?

[mb_]

Modified plates? You mean like Vanity plates? If so, doesn't matter if your car is gutted or bone stock
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[E-40six]

1997 acura integra type Rs would qualify this year as there were around 320 were produced. 1998 Acura ITRs would qualify next year as about 1005 were produced for that year :D
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[Adrenaline Rush]

Modified plates? You mean like Vanity plates? If so, doesn't matter if your car is gutted or bone stock
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ICBC | Modified vehicles (http://www.icbc.com/registration-licensing/specialty-vehicles/modified-vehicles)

My mistake, it's not really modified plates, but having a vehicle "registered as modified".

[DJ Milk]

There was a Revscene member who had a DA chassis Acura Integra GS-R with the B17A engine which qualified for Collectors but those are hard to come by. I recall Tapioca mentioning that he has one but is a daily driver.
Must be this 92 Intergra GSR was posted for sale here on RS in 2009 and it has collector plates
http://www.revscene.net/forums/591397-fs-1992-acura-integra-gs-r-db2-icbc-collector-vehicle-status.html
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g32/mistereedog/1992%20Red%20GS-R/IMG_5081.jpg

[ShadowBun]

wow I never knew the type Rs are so rare

[bcrdukes]

Thanks, Snoop Monkey Monk. That's the one I'm talking about. Nice car and collectible for sure. :)

[godwin]

It doesn't matter how many are left.. what matters are how they look in the photos.

Oh if you get into a claiming related situation.. do remember in addition to the Collector status, you still neeed an "Agreed Value" (http://www.icbc.com/autoplan/optional/optional-vehicle/agreed-value) policy from ICBC for maximum coverage.

yeah that makes sense...how many AMCs are left in vancouver?
yet I still see a visible amount of 80's volvo...few in conditions that are worthy of a CP

[godwin]

In BMW's defence there aren't that many cars that would qualify recently.. other than S54 Z3 shoes, Z8. The 90s Canadian spec M3 are local runs and globally there are more than 1500. BMW doesn't churn out special editions like Porsche does.

If they don't like to show, just get any back issues of Bimmer's buying guides.. they often do list the production numbers for specific models.



As for BMW... :heckno:

[bcrdukes]

^
I was looking to see if at any point in time I could qualify for the E36 M3 sedan since they were so limited in production numbers. There were no viable guides or resources available (when I looked any way) so I sent an e-mail to BMW. They basically told me to scram.

Otherwise, like everybody else, you have to wait until the vehicle is 30+ years old.

[godwin]

For BMWs I suggest taking out a subscription of Bimmer (http://www.bimmer-mag.com/) If you are not in a hurry, do write to them as they are quite good at replying. I think M3 Sedans do exist in quite large number as they are popular in Asia... I am not sure they would make the 1500 mark.

^
I was looking to see if at any point in time I could qualify for the E36 M3 sedan since they were so limited in production numbers. There were no viable guides or resources available (when I looked any way) so I sent an e-mail to BMW. They basically told me to scram.

Otherwise, like everybody else, you have to wait until the vehicle is 30+ years old.

[SumAznGuy]

There is a member of RS that has an older M5 on collector plates I believe. Can't remember the specific details other than a special year or model that had less than 1500 models world wide.

[godwin]

only 2000 or so E28 M5 were made over 3 years globally in the 80s.. those are the rarest of all M5..

eg e39 M5 20k were made.

There is a member of RS that has an older M5 on collector plates I believe. Can't remember the specific details other than a special year or model that had less than 1500 models world wide.

[SumAznGuy]

only 2000 or so E28 M5 were made over 3 years globally in the 80s.. those are the rarest of all M5..

eg e39 M5 20k were made.

It was definately an E39 M5. I've seen the car and collector plates.
I'll bug him about it later when I see him online.

I recall him saying there was less than 1500 cars world wide.

[godwin]

The only problem with that claim is e39 started production in 1998.. Even within the 15 year time frame, it won't be eligible until 2013.. which is next year.

It was definately an E39 M5. I've seen the car and collector plates.
I'll bug him about it later when I see him online.

I recall him saying there was less than 1500 cars world wide.

[SumAznGuy]

The only problem with that claim is e39 started production in 1998.. Even within the 15 year time frame, it won't be eligible until 2013.. which is next year.

We may have a problem here.
Hmmm.

Got it. It was an E34 M5.

[shabusen]

This is seriously old enough to qualify?

[DJ Milk]

It came out in 1994 so it’s 25 years old

[shabusen]

It came out in 1994 so it’s 25 years old

They need to extend the minimum age to 40 years then. /s

[fliptuner]

They need to extend the minimum age to 40 years then.

Why? They made POS cars in the 80's too.

I'm just glad they upped the year for modified collectors.

[68style]

Just got approved today for collector plates on my 94 MR2 Turbo! Went to go collect them and the insurance place tried to give me motorcycle ones insisting they were right lol!! Turns out they don’t have any car ones in stock........ so I gotta wait now

[shabusen]

Why? They made POS cars in the 80's too.

I'm just glad they upped the year for modified collectors.

Agree 100%. Comment adjusted.

[Badhobz]

That means within a few years my beloved sc430s will be eligible for collectors insurance!!! damn does that mean I gotta find those dinner plate rims back ?! :heckno:

[68style]

That means within a few years my beloved sc430s will be eligible for collectors insurance!!! damn does that mean I gotta find those dinner plate rims back ?! :heckno:

No, you can go up a maximum of 1” in wheel size with other rims and retain collector plate eligibility. Dinner plates are 18” right? You can even get collectors with 19”... you got a long ways to go time wise though, 25 years old... another 6 years or so?