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03-06-2012, 05:25 PM
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#1 | | First to fail !SG evar! Now i have yellow fever...
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03-06-2012, 05:39 PM
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#2 | | resident Oil Guru
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Doesn't this count as spam? Regardless, I wish you good luck on your project. Posted via RS Mobile | |
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03-06-2012, 05:42 PM
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#3 | | First to fail !SG evar! Now i have yellow fever...
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I realized it may be considered "spam" after I posted. I hope not, but if so I will edit my post asap so it does not include info about donations.
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03-06-2012, 05:43 PM
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Not to be rude or anything but I always give money towards to help out a local family. In the past I have bought a goat for a African family and all that but being local you actually know where your money goes and when you have those people thank you it just means so much.
If the internet scams this day and age I don't trust my money going anywhere.
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03-06-2012, 05:43 PM
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i saw a bunch of kids in red t shirts that had something about kenya boarding a plane today at yvr.....thought it was pree sick to get to go all the way to kenya with friends
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03-06-2012, 05:46 PM
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#6 | | First to fail !SG evar! Now i have yellow fever...
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Originally Posted by murd0c  Not to be rude or anything but I always give money towards to help out a local family. In the past I have bought a goat for a African family and all that but being local you actually know where your money goes and when you have those people thank you it just means so much.
If the internet scams this day and age I don't trust my money going anywhere. | That is understandable, if there are any questions people are welcome to contact me personally. Also, there is an option on the website to start your own project to raise 10k!
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03-06-2012, 05:59 PM
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#7 | | I only answer to my username, my real name is Irrelevant!
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dont want to sound like im thread crapping... but, why Kenya?
Its a prosperous country compared to its neighbours; its gdp has skyrocketed since independence, they're the economic hub for Africa basically (well east/central tbe)
and there's supposedly over 12,000 schools there already
although its a great cause it just seems like it would be better suited to be put elsewhere
but i dont really know the situation well hence the question
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03-06-2012, 06:29 PM
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#8 | | First to fail !SG evar! Now i have yellow fever...
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^Why you gotta crap on my thread?  jkjk
Kenya is often chosen for projects like this because their government is much easier to deal with than other countries in the region. School staff and maintenance workers will be paid by the Kenyan government.
Believe me, the areas that the schools go into are all in desperate need of facilities. Kenya may be prosperous, but there are many people living in poverty. One could make the same argument for almost any region.. "Vancouver is a wealthy city, why should we help the downtown eastside?".
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03-06-2012, 06:50 PM
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#9 | | I only answer to my username, my real name is Irrelevant!
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ahh makes sense, thanks for the info | |
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03-06-2012, 07:49 PM
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#10 | | 14 dolla balla aint got nothing on me!
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Originally Posted by StylinRed dont want to sound like im thread crapping... but, why Kenya?
Its a prosperous country compared to its neighbours; its gdp has skyrocketed since independence, they're the economic hub for Africa basically (well east/central tbe)
and there's supposedly over 12,000 schools there already
although its a great cause it just seems like it would be better suited to be put elsewhere
but i dont really know the situation well hence the question | I lived in Nairobi Kenya for almost a year. Prosperous is a relative term in this situation.
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03-06-2012, 07:53 PM
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i know a group of buddies of mine heading to Eastern Botswana for 2-3 weeks to build an outreach centre for kids who have been affected by HIV/AIDS. They prepped for 8 months or so and took a sh*t load of shots to protect themselves from 'diseases' over there  .
Amazing initiative tho.
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03-06-2012, 09:32 PM
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Props to you Redlines Daily. Good post. Donations to a good cause for students in Kenya. 
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03-06-2012, 09:39 PM
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Are any churches involved?
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03-06-2012, 10:26 PM
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#14 | | First to fail !SG evar! Now i have yellow fever...
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^I'm happy to say this project and Free the Children are not affiliated with any religion. No preaching, no churches, just building a school!
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03-07-2012, 01:32 AM
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So your going to spend $300 per person on the school and $2000 per person to fly out there? Instead of flying out there why not use the airfare money to build more schools?
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03-07-2012, 01:41 AM
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Working vacations... Taking jobs away from African's one day at a time. Wish I could find that article.
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03-07-2012, 01:47 AM
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#17 | | I WANT MY 10 YEARS BACK FROM RS.net!
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Wait until you see the list of administration cost.
1) flight ticket for each co-ordinator
2) accommodation for them
3) dirty money to the corrupt officials
4) insurance
5) research fee
6) hiring gunmen to keep the group safe
7) more dirty money to the gunmen leader
8) staff entertainment fee (probably some kenya hookers)
It will end up 90% of the donation is gone to the admin cost. $1,000 should be the actual amount spent on building the school (that's why they chose Free the Child). Sorry. bad experience in the past, you can refer to my post below. http://www.revscene.net/forums/53134...light=donation | |
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03-07-2012, 08:03 AM
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#18 | | First to fail !SG evar! Now i have yellow fever...
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I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but we are dealing with a different organization here. You cannot assume that all charitable organizations do things the same way(providing your post is even remotely accurate in the first place).
I don't know if you are just trolling or actually serious with your list of administration costs, but I find it completely disrespectful to come into a thread like this and say that kind of shit. If you feel so strongly about your opinion then your are welcome to make another thread about it, no need to do it here.
None of the 10k goes to flight tickets, coordinators already live in Kenya. Most of them are volunteers btw. There are no bribes for a project like this..despite what you may think you know about the Kenyan people they actually want schools to be built the same as we do. There is no research fee, location is chosen by locals who know the area and are employed by government. There are no gunmen -_-, and certainly no hookers.
I'm surprised at the negative attitude here..I can assume those of you criticizing must really do a lot of philanthropy work, right? Sure all the donors could donate their flight tickets to other projects but people want to enjoy their lives, and if this is how they choose to do that who are you to criticize? Most people use up their vacation time or take time off work to do this. They could spend that $2k on a trip to Vegas or a new LV bag for their gf, or a new titanium exhaust or rims or some shit, but they choose to fly to fucking Africa and build a school for kids. Also, the project actually creates jobs - 8 of them.
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03-07-2012, 08:52 AM
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I don't understand why people come to threads like this just to complain. Isn't ignoring this thread by its title easier?
To the OP:
This year I am participating in the ride to conquer cancer, riding my bike from Vancouver to Seattle. I've raised $1,800 within last month and counting.
Here is what I've experienced so far.
-Fundraising efforts should be targeted to people you know. I've had most luck asking for support from my friends.
-Emails are easy to ignore, a phone call is far better (with an email follow up)
-You'd be surprised as to who can donate and how much, so ask everyone you know.
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03-07-2012, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Manic! So your going to spend $300 per person on the school and $2000 per person to fly out there? Instead of flying out there why not use the airfare money to build more schools? | i would rather have people fly out there so you can see exactly where the money is going
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03-07-2012, 09:08 AM
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Would be epic if its the next level Nigerian Scam lol
Get other locals to pool money together and send it to you to build a school
They fly down and find an empty lot
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03-07-2012, 10:29 AM
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#22 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by gdoh i would rather have people fly out there so you can see exactly where the money is going | But how many people do you need to send? Why not just send one person.
It's like buying a light bulb for $2 and then paying someone $100 to watch you screw it in.
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03-07-2012, 11:17 AM
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#23 | | First to fail !SG evar! Now i have yellow fever...
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People are not required to go to Kenya, I would say most donors will probably not go. Those who choose to go, travel at their own expense because they want to go.
It's like saying to someone "oh you donated $300 to Africa, then took a vacation to Vegas? Why don't you give up your vacation to vegas so you can donate more money?" I'm quite sure you personally don't commit all of your disposable income to charity, am I right? You could look at this like a vacation with some awesome humanitarian work built into the itinerary(although it is def more work than vacation). How much time did you take from your last vacation to help other people?
Bottom line is these people are helping to make a difference in the lives of others. On top of that, some of them are choosing to give up other vacations/purchases so they can personally go to Kenya to help even further.
You are welcome to have your opinion, but I disagree with your analogy because at the end of the day these people choose to go, they are not paid to do so.
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03-07-2012, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Redlines_Daily ^I'm happy to say this project and Free the Children are not affiliated with any religion. No preaching, no churches, just building a school! | Sounds like a great project Redlines_Daily, but i'm not sure what makes you think that by giving someone an education, you will also make them 'moral', whatever that means to you.
A would hate to give to an organization that provides education, but not purpose. Most people who become educated don't also become moral, since human greed is more powerful than whatever western ideals are intended to be taught.
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03-07-2012, 02:05 PM
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#25 | | First to fail !SG evar! Now i have yellow fever...
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Originally Posted by freakshow ... i'm not sure what makes you think that by giving someone an education, you will also make them 'moral', whatever that means to you. | I'm not sure where this is coming from since I didn't mention anything about morals. I feel that perhaps you were offended by my comment regarding religion not being a part of the project. I hope I didn't come across as anti-religion, I apologize if I did.
I agree with you that education alone does not teach morals. However, I believe any good teacher will impart ethics and morals in addition to the abc's. In my opinion, we can still teach solid core values without religion.
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