[A-Dev]

KONY 2012 on Vimeo

[aikenluu918]

There is a facebook even for tagging vancouver. join if you can Guerrilla marketing !

[A-Dev]

There is a facebook even for tagging vancouver. join if you can Guerrilla marketing !

https://www.facebook.com/events/375443385807858/

[b0unce. [?]]

lol it's on 420, i'll be downtown already "supporting" the cause.

[akalic]

tl;dw:troll:

[shawnly1000]

This went completely viral in the past 24 hours

[axxess]

If anyone who is TL;DW watch WHO IS JOSEPH KONY?? #KONY2012 - YouTube
skip to 3:30

[twitchyzero]

worth the entire 29 minutes man
talk about the fastest viral video ever...i saw at least 30 people posting it on my fb newsfeed.

[z-33]

the visible problem with invisible children « i’m a fan of postcards (http://ilto.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/the-visible-problem-with-invisible-children/)

their a little late with the whole kony movement

[yray]

The VICE Guide to Liberia | The VICE Guide to Travel | VICE (http://www.vice.com/the-vice-guide-to-travel/the-vice-guide-to-liberia-1)

Less button pushing, more reality.

[Nightwalker]

Fantastic marketing, they're going to make a pile of money.

[TOS'd]

Heres another take:
I do not doubt for a second that those involved in KONY 2012 have great intentions, nor do I doubt for a second that Joseph Kony is a very evil man. But despite this, I’m strongly opposed to the KONY 2012 campaign.

KONY 2012 is the product of a group called Invisible Children, a controversial activist group and not-for-profit. They’ve released 11 films, most with an accompanying bracelet colour (KONY 2012 is fittingly red), all of which focus on Joseph Kony. When we buy merch from them, when we link to their video, when we put up posters linking to their website, we support the organization. I don’t think that’s a good thing, and I’m not alone.

Invisible Children has been condemned time and time again. As a registered not-for-profit, its finances are public. Last year, the organization spent $8,676,614. Only 32% went to direct services (page 6), with much of the rest going to staff salaries, travel and transport, and film production. This is far from ideal, and Charity Navigator rates their accountability 2/4 stars because they haven’t had their finances externally audited. But it goes way deeper than that.

The group is in favour of direct military intervention, and their money funds the Ugandan government’s army and various other military forces. Here’s a photo of the founders of Invisible Children posing with weapons and personnel of the Sudan People’s Liberation Army. Both the Ugandan army and Sudan People’s Liberation Army are riddled with accusations of rape and looting, but Invisible Children defends them, arguing that the Ugandan army is “better equipped than that of any of the other affected countries”, although Kony is no longer active in Uganda and hasn’t been since 2006 by their own admission.

Still, the bulk of Invisible Children’s spending isn’t on funding African militias, but on awareness and filmmaking. Which can be great, except that Foreign Affairs has claimed that Invisible Children (among others) “manipulates facts for strategic purposes, exaggerating the scale of LRA abductions and murders and emphasizing the LRA’s use of innocent children as soldiers, and portraying Kony — a brutal man, to be sure — as uniquely awful, a Kurtz-like embodiment of evil.” He’s certainly evil, but exaggeration and manipulation to capture the public eye is unproductive, unprofessional and dishonest.

As Christ Blattman, a political scientist at Yale, writes on the topic of IC’s programming, “There’s also something inherently misleading, naive, maybe even dangerous, about the idea of rescuing children or saving of Africa. […] It hints uncomfortably of the White Man’s Burden. Worse, sometimes it does more than hint. The savior attitude is pervasive in advocacy, and it inevitably shapes programming. Usually misconceived programming.”

Still, Kony’s a bad guy, and he’s been around a while. Which is why the US has been involved in stopping him for years. U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) has sent multiple missions to capture or kill Kony over the years. And they’ve failed time and time again, each provoking a ferocious response and increased retaliative slaughter. The issue with taking out a man who uses a child army is that his bodyguards are children. Any effort to capture or kill him will almost certainly result in many children’s deaths, an impact that needs to be minimized as much as possible. Each attempt brings more retaliation. And yet Invisible Children supports military intervention. Kony has been involved in peace talks in the past, which have fallen through. But Invisible Children is now focusing on military intervention.

Military intervention may or may not be the right idea, but people supporting KONY 2012 probably don’t realize they’re supporting the Ugandan military who are themselves raping and looting away. If people know this and still support Invisible Children because they feel it’s the best solution based on their knowledge and research, I have no issue with that. But I don’t think most people are in that position, and that’s a problem.

Is awareness good? Yes. But these problems are highly complex, not one-dimensional and, frankly, aren’t of the nature that can be solved by postering, film-making and changing your Facebook profile picture, as hard as that is to swallow. Giving your money and public support to Invisible Children so they can spend it on supporting ill-advised violent intervention and movie #12 isn’t helping. Do I have a better answer? No, I don’t, but that doesn’t mean that you should support KONY 2012 just because it’s something. Something isn’t always better than nothing. Sometimes it’s worse.

If you want to write to your Member of Parliament or your Senator or the President or the Prime Minister, by all means, go ahead. If you want to post about Joseph Kony’s crimes on Facebook, go ahead. But let’s keep it about Joseph Kony, not KONY 2012.

~ Grant Oyston, visiblechildren@grantoyston.com

Grant Oyston is a sociology and political science student at Acadia University in Nova Scotia, Canada. You can help spread the word about this by linking to his blog at visiblechildren.tumblr.com anywhere you see posts about KONY 2012.
Source: We got trouble. - Visible Children - KONY 2012 Criticism (http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/post/18890947431/we-got-trouble)

[OTG-ZR2]

For a non-profit organization, some one is making money off this...

You can purchase an Action Kit including: Posters, bracelets, stickers, buttons, an action guide, and a t-shirt. For only $30
-From the KONY 2012 facebook page.

[Fappin]

For those too lazy to watch the vid here's a summary

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0hs4mREza1rqdlylo1_500.jpg

[StaxBundlez]

watching the video was one of the saddest things I've seen in awhile. I wholeheartedly support this..

[MindBomber]

My current Facebook status.

I'm not trolling, before anyone makes that assertion. I'm speaking my mind, because I find it absolutely pathetic that this information is new to people, and the strategy being presented by the video has been proven completely ineffective and short sighted countless times.

KONY 2012 - a personification of the pathetic weak mindedness of mainstream society, and the eagerness of the population to passionately dedicate themselves to a cause when it becomes popular to do so for a moment. I hear the content of the video described as heart breaking, moving, emotional - people claim to be holding back tears. The video outlines the effect of Joseph Kony's rule over Uganda; outlining his use of child soldiers, rape, and his physiological enslavement of a people. Not one piece of the information delivered in the video should be new to any person who has piddled away their time on Facebook. The suffering portrayed in the video is awful, but it's far from isolated or unique; it has not been ignored by legitimate sources of media, it just hasn't been delivered so conveniently in viral social media form before. So, if the information is new to you, my Facebook friend, you need to reexamine the amount of time you dedicate to maintaining a status on your friends updates, and instead make yourself more aware of the world on which you exist. Joseph Kony is one man amongst a fraternity of men; Uganda is one country amongst our depraved global society. The suffering of children is not new, it is not especially more awful than anything similar that has occurred around the world for decades, and it is certainly not the only issue that requires more attention. Don't lend your support to a questionable charity advocating military action that has been proven ineffective, and most often detrimental, whose allocation of charitable funds is beyond questionable. I'll leave you with one thought, if you want to prevent this type of suffering, don't cut the head off the dictator, cut off his support. Without bullets, without guns, without fuel, without vehicles, without those willing to exploit an impoverished countrys' resources to facilitate cheap consumerism and finance all those purchases, men like Joseph Kony wouldn't exist to begin with. Get real people, get informed on something that matters instead of whose cramming for a paper or sipping starbucks, then form an intelligent opinion. We'd all be better off that way.

[Vansterdam]

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[A-Dev]

While the Kony part of this is important. I am more interested in the process of the campaign. If this is successful it shows the population that they do in fact have some power over politics. In the future this type of population awareness could help bring to light many other important issues the general public is unaware of.

[underscore]

I looked up their finances KONY 2012 - Help raise awareness and stop Joseph Kony : videos (http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qk0pd/kony_2012_help_raise_awareness_and_stop_joseph/)

and on a charity review site, they list the main 3 guys as making ~ $90k/year

[SkinnyPupp]

http://i.imgur.com/hgikc.png

[BossFrancis]

For a non-profit organization, some one is making money off this...

-From the KONY 2012 facebook page.
Well they need funds to produce all these action packs. I mean have you seen them? They contain a lot of stuff. Bracelets, pamplets, etc. :spamarama:

[hotjoint]

GF watched the whole video yesterday. I heard the audio portion.

[gdoh]

i posted this on my fb lol

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422788_10150601626262087_744747086_9279346_6828712 44_n.jpg

and got this for a response =|
ew im so sick of people criticizing others for 'getting involved'. yes people were unaware, but it's not necessarily that they were indifferent to the sufferings. if you're criticizing the structure of the invisible children that's another story, but im getting heartbroken seeing people by snobbishly hindering what is clearly a positive progress. YES call it a trend, a fad or a propaganda but that should not undermine the sincere initiatives the video has provoked out of its viewers nor should any activist organization complain for people 'hopping on the wagon' because this ultimately endorses humanitarianism. really the end result of this project truly justifies its means despite that it might not have been partially a propaganda (arguably) so if anything this should be an eye opener for literally every person whether previously knowledged or ignorant to this issue the power of compassion instead of rendering every hopeful individual progress as shameful. when was it EVER necessary to put a value on the human experience of compassion if we're raising awareness, which is precisely what the video sets to do?

[lundyt]

I looked up their finances KONY 2012 - Help raise awareness and stop Joseph Kony : videos (http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qk0pd/kony_2012_help_raise_awareness_and_stop_joseph/)

and on a charity review site, they list the main 3 guys as making ~ $90k/year

Compensation of Leaders (FYE 06/2011)

Compensation % of Expenses Paid to Title
$88,241 0.99% Ben Keesey Chief Executive Officer

Other Salaries of Note
$89,669 1.00% Jason Russell Co-Founder, Filmmaker
$84,377 0.94% Laren Poole Co-Founder, Filmmaker

[PiuYi]

wow the statistics of OP's video is amazing

March 4: 8 views
March 5: 58,000 views
March 6: 27,000,000 views
March 7: 43,000,000 views

[El Bastardo]

(Somewhat related)

Machine Gun Preacher is a movie starring Gerard Butler related to the LRA & Joseph Kony.
It stars Gerard Butler as a former scumbag who finds religion, goes to Africa & opens a church, then ends up leading armed resistance against the LRA.


You should check it out.

[fd3]

Yeah its crazy watched it last night and was like woah
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[Phozy]

Yeah, regarding those fb statuses, I too argue that people are just jumping on the bandwagon, because its become so popular. All I get back is mindless bitching and cussing back, no logic whatsoever.
Its like these people have lived in caves and don't know this happens elsewhere too...
As to weather or not I support it, the publiuc attention is good, but someone is definetly making money, and here comes more war n slaughter, for the better?
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[ilovebacon]

^1+
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[jpark]

+1, god damn bandwagoners
http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z379/jpark881/421301_10151352002590117_753035116_23006700_266494 828_n.jpg

[drunkrussian]

the video basically asks ppl to bandwagon. it says if u dont dedicate your life to this or buy their kit or spend ome or money on this cause just help them out by posting it to your fb etc. so what the FUCK is wrong with bandwaggoning? maybe one person who reads my fb status will also share it and then one person who reads their's will donate money when they otherwise would not know of it. what the fuck is wrong with that? how does it affect you in any possible way other than you seeing some kony fb posts for two weeks? give me a fucking break
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[jeedee]

Pretty much sums up people on facebook:

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/423970_186184111494464_100003086290614_280486_5170 78012_n.jpg

[doma]

scam scam scam scam, wont watch, wont ever watch.

[MindBomber]

the video basically asks ppl to bandwagon. it says if u dont dedicate your life to this or buy their kit or spend ome or money on this cause just help them out by posting it to your fb etc. so what the FUCK is wrong with bandwaggoning? maybe one person who reads my fb status will also share it and then one person who reads their's will donate money when they otherwise would not know of it. what the fuck is wrong with that? how does it affect you in any possible way other than you seeing some kony fb posts for two weeks? give me a fucking break
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Blindly donating money is of no benefit to anyone, other than the questionable charities themselves. The position of Invisible Children is short sighted and ignorant. If you want to help suffering African children create a Facebook status suggesting your friends donate to a charity recognized as providing a legitimate benefit.

When you share the KONY 2012 video you are supporting military intervention by a foreign power. Soldiers from first and second world countries cannot effectively fight eight year olds, and even if somehow one evil man falls, another is always waiting in the wings to rise and usurp the opening. Stop the flow of bullets and you'll stop the war, of course, that would be a very unpopular view among the UN security council.

[TOS'd]

Zomg guys I have a great idea, lets all make our fb profile pictures to be Joseph Kony! This will surely stop his reign of terror.

[dachinesedude]

trying to get the UN to help? good luck with that, unless Uganda's got resources (aka oil), there is no political reason for other countries to waste their time

[danizer]

I too argue that people are just jumping on the bandwagon
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[gdoh]

how do you argue with people who live in fantasy land? whose only argument is that its better to support than to hinder the cause

[Fappin]

I believe the whole thing is somewhat a scam. If the US military is already dispatched, why need donations? The US already spends trillions of dollars on their military.

I support the cause of the arrest of Kony, but what good will that do? It'll stop the LRA, but for how long? There's always going to be someone else that will take over Kony's position.

I think the real problem is the structure of the government. Something such as this is nearly impossible to commit in 1st world countries. Fix the broken government that will protect its citizens.

[parm104]

People live under rocks and are sheltered most of their lives. They need these MTV styled videos to motivate them and to get them riled up for a cause. Otherwise, their lives would just be plain boring. Whether or not their cause is real or not, the point is, they did something, or so they THINK. If it makes them feel good about themselves, and if they can tell other people "look what I did to help poor kids," then it's all a good cause, right? Wrong.

Ultimately, if someone is going to take part in one of these viral campaigns, they need to do their own research and investigate the cause, the history and the organization. As we've unraveled from research already shown in this thread, this video was shot in 2003 and since then this problem has been eradicated or at least relieved a fair bit. Many sources have also reported that Kony is already dead. So what exactly are you achieving in this campaign if the goals have already been achieved years ago? Self-satisfaction? People able to say you took part in something good? Guess what, this Kony guy is a dime a dozen and if you're going to try and make a relief effort, make sure it's legitimate and you know what you're cause is, don't be ignorant and follow because X, Y and Z are doing it.

[twitchyzero]

I looked up their finances KONY 2012 - Help raise awareness and stop Joseph Kony : videos (http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/qk0pd/kony_2012_help_raise_awareness_and_stop_joseph/)

and on a charity review site, they list the main 3 guys as making ~ $90k/year yeah damn these guys in NPO, how dare they make more than $35k a year! :derp:

wow the statistics of OP's video is amazing

March 4: 8 views
March 5: 58,000 views
March 6: 27,000,000 views
March 7: 43,000,000 views

While the Kony part of this is important. I am more interested in the process of the campaign. If this is successful it shows the population that they do in fact have some power over politics. In the future this type of population awareness could help bring to light many other important issues the general public is unaware of.

exactly. I am not saying for people to blindly take the entire video for face value and make your stance all from one video. It does incredibly show how the masses can influence the policymakers up top...the inverted triangle and the red KONY 2012 posters kind of reminds me of the raised fist.

oh yeah, and the power of teh internet.

Many sources have also reported that Kony is already dead.
Sauce?

[El Bastardo]

Also, related but not directly on topic:


Rush Limbaugh Defended Joseph Kony And Lord's Resistance Army | News One (http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/rush-limbaugh-defended-joseph-kony-and-lords-resistance-army/)

[kwy]

This organization smelled fishy from the start. People need to think for themselves and do their own research rather than get spoon fed by social media and questionable "non profits."

I admire that people want change, or think they are doing something to help, but this won't really do anything. Shit like this is nothing new. Armchair activism never solved one fucking problem.

[MindBomber]

yeah damn these guys in NPO, how dare they make more than $35k a year! :derp:


How dare a person who chooses to work for a non-profit organization choose to pay themselves more than double the industry standard salary.

Compensation of Leaders (FYE 06/2011)

Compensation % of Expenses Paid to Title
$88,241 0.99% Ben Keesey Chief Executive Officer

Other Salaries of Note
$89,669 1.00% Jason Russell Co-Founder, Filmmaker
$84,377 0.94% Laren Poole Co-Founder, Filmmaker

Theatre Producer: Average salary $38,030 - $56,960/year
Technical Director/Manager: Average salary $57,160/year
Directors, Stage, Motion Pictures, Television, and Radio: Average salary $57,160/year
Set Designer: Average salary $32,230 - $42,460/year
Actor: Average salary $36,790/ year
Film Editor : Average salary $36,630 - $57,720/year
Managers: $44.64/ day
Camera operators: $22.38/ day
Sales reps: $20.12/ day
Editors: $19.92/ day
A/V equipment techs: $16.03/ day


Film Industry Salaries | Information about average film industry salaries (http://www.aboutfilmschools.com/jobs/industrysalaries.asp)

Red Cross; Salary, $995,718; Percent of total expenses, 0.02%; Gail J. McGovern, President, CEO.
Invisible Children; Salary, $88,241; Percent of total expenses, 0.99%; Ben Keesy, Chief Executive Officer.

The percentage of Ben Keesy's salary to the total annual operating expenses is 49.5 times higher than that of the CEO of American Red Cross.

[Vansterdam]

lol so many bandwagoners on my facebook lol fucken scammers

[dinosaur]

riiiight...so now we are hate bandwagoning the bandwagoners....

i hearts the interwebs.

the sole purpose of this is to raise awareness. watch it...or don't watch it. donate...or don't donate. sign a petition or don't sign it. criticize those who didn't know about this before and act all high and fucking mighty all you want. act like a fucking hipster and refuse to engage in the Kony 2012 rhetoric b/c it is too mainstream or the dudes in charge make too much damn money or because Uganda isn't the only place this is happening or we should deal with our own problems before looking to another country or because of a thousand other reasons why hearing about Kony 2012 yesterday and today pissed you off so much.

Does. Not. Fucking. Matter. Why? Because the vast majority of people in the developed world are going to click share....read about something they were not aware of (omgwtfbbq!? you mean there are actually people out there who do NOT know about EVERY major and minor social issue in EVERY country in the world!!), and maybe think twice about the decisions they make and how lucky they are to have 10 different meal choices at McDonald's tonight!

The Kony 2012 peeps have already reached half their goal between yesterday and today...educating a whole shit-pile of people unaware of what the fuck is happening in Uganda. It took 24 hours. I hope they succeed with part two...capturing the fucker.

I am not going to sit hear and preach off about how I am so great b/c I knew about this before and have read about it, blah blah blah....what did I do about it? Dick all.....at least this dude is trying to do something which is more than can be said for any of us......whether you shared the video or bitched about not sharing it.

[rsx]

Typical US mentality. I fucking hate it, they're always the Moral Superior and the Savior of everyone, but yet fail to realize their own government has participated in so many illegal wars and other atrocities through CIA covert ops.

[JD¹³]

riiiight...so now we are hate bandwagoning the bandwagoners....

i hearts the interwebs.

the sole purpose of this is to raise awareness. watch it...or don't watch it. donate...or don't donate. sign a petition or don't sign it. criticize those who didn't know about this before and act all high and fucking mighty all you want. act like a fucking hipster and refuse to engage in the Kony 2012 rhetoric b/c it is too mainstream or the dudes in charge make too much damn money or because Uganda isn't the only place this is happening or we should deal with our own problems before looking to another country or because of a thousand other reasons why hearing about Kony 2012 yesterday and today pissed you off so much.

Does. Not. Fucking. Matter. Why? Because the vast majority of people in the developed world are going to click share....read about something they were not aware of (omgwtfbbq!? you mean there are actually people out there who do NOT know about EVERY major and minor social issue in EVERY country in the world!!), and maybe think twice about the decisions they make and how lucky they are to have 10 different meal choices at McDonald's tonight!

The Kony 2012 peeps have already reached half their goal between yesterday and today...educating a whole shit-pile of people unaware of what the fuck is happening in Uganda. It took 24 hours. I hope they succeed with part two...capturing the fucker.

I am not going to sit hear and preach off about how I am so great b/c I knew about this before and have read about it, blah blah blah....what did I do about it? Dick all.....at least this dude is trying to do something which is more than can be said for any of us......whether you shared the video or bitched about not sharing it.
DOES. FUCKING. MATTER. And you just proved why. Kony and the LRA have not been causing problems in Northern Uganda for 6 years or more. The video that is going viral is chalk full of holes and misconceptions and blatantly misleads its viewers by making them think a war is going on. It's bullshit that's just lining the pockets of the 'charity' whose financials are questionable. You're praising the spread of lies and saying it's good that people are becoming "aware" while proving you don't even know what you're arguing. Good job.

[Alatar]

Visible Children - KONY 2012 Criticism (http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/)

[bluejays]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/15818222.jpg

[drunkrussian]

DOES. FUCKING. MATTER. And you just proved why. Kony and the LRA have not been causing problems in Northern Uganda for 6 years or more. The video that is going viral is chalk full of holes and misconceptions and blatantly misleads its viewers by making them think a war is going on. It's bullshit that's just lining the pockets of the 'charity' whose financials are questionable. You're praising the spread of lies and saying it's good that people are becoming "aware" while proving you don't even know what you're arguing. Good job.
whats ur source? is it one of those websites thats anti this video? how are those more credible than this video? how do people know about the financials of anyone? im not on the side of this video nor its critics - im merely curious is all
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[rsx]

whats ur source? is it one of those websites thats anti this video? how are those more credible than this video? how do people know about the financials of anyone? im not on the side of this video nor its critics - im merely curious is all
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The people that are questioning the legitimacy of the organization and the facts are the people who are not asking "what's your source" They're the ones, after watching the video, do their own research and read about the organization, the situation and Joseph Kony himself.

The monkeys that click "like" or "share" are the same people that get roped into the same bs any propaganda machine throws at them because they're too lazy to do their research.

[dinosaur]

DOES. FUCKING. MATTER. And you just proved why. Kony and the LRA have not been causing problems in Northern Uganda for 6 years or more. The video that is going viral is chalk full of holes and misconceptions and blatantly misleads its viewers by making them think a war is going on. It's bullshit that's just lining the pockets of the 'charity' whose financials are questionable. You're praising the spread of lies and saying it's good that people are becoming "aware" while proving you don't even know what you're arguing. Good job.

A little quick to judge saying that I don't know what I am talking about.

What do your propose should happen then?

[MindBomber]

A little quick to judge saying that I don't know what I am talking about.

What do your propose should happen then?

I propose members of the UN security council stop selling third and fourth world countries cheap bullets and AK-47s.

[BossFrancis]

I don't know what I just watched.
http://youtu.be/qCgUj3PHngQ

[penner2k]

http://i.imgur.com/K3mgn.jpg

[rsx]

T.I.A.

[aliuu]

SAVE THE CHILDREN.. oh wait.. wheres uganda again?
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn83/liu123452/f5kWl.jpg

[Excelsis]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/263/936/ca0.jpg

[GabAlmighty]

Guaranteed half the people who are "supporting" this had no fucking idea this kind of shit has been going on for so decades.

Welcome to Africa retards.

[StaxBundlez]

+1, god damn bandwagoners
http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z379/jpark881/421301_10151352002590117_753035116_23006700_266494 828_n.jpg

:rukidding:
This has nothing to do about hopping on some bandwagon. You watch the video and you actually felt something for these kids. That part of you which is human that tells you NO person deserves to live this way. It's easy.. so so easy to just sit behind your PC monitor and say, "that's awful", then move on with your life; so easy to make a mockery of things when you have a nice house to live in, people who care about you, your laptop, Xbox, and don't gotta worry about whether you're going to die the next day.

You think I don't got my own problems to deal with over here to? Everybody's got fucking problems. It's when people take a moment to give a damn that makes a difference, instead of making stupid memes about 'how you've always been a social activist.' That time could have been put to something a little more worth while IMO.

The worlds not getting any worse then it was 100 or even a 1000 years ago. But living in the world we do today, where all it takes is something like social media (a few clicks of a mouse) to make a difference in the world.. I say that's something pretty damn significant...

enjoy your cozy bed..

[CorneringArtist]

Just posted a severely annotated version of the Kony questioners in this thread on a friend's Facebook post, plus mentioning that the rest of Africa has problems, and one of his lemming friends goes and replies to me with "Gota (sic) start somwhere (sic)".

:rukidding::fulloffuck::facepalm:

[Nightwalker]

whats ur source? is it one of those websites thats anti this video? how are those more credible than this video? how do people know about the financials of anyone? im not on the side of this video nor its critics - im merely curious is all
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As a non-profit, their financial information is public.

[StylinRed]

He's a Christian terrorist of a Christian terrorist organization, but we'll all just leave that out and simply say he's a war criminal

fuckin douches



and for those wondering

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cbyylIXi_wQ/TIcmH9S4v-I/AAAAAAAAC7Q/GFMcBK1OAl8/s1600/lord-of-war-p.jpg

he's basically the character that Nicolas Cage was dealing with through the movie (a character said to be about charles taylor)
as Andre Bout is said to have dealt with Kony a lot






side note i dont know how anyone watched this video without previously knowing what its about... first 20seconds i was like wtf is this? so failing some ppl who said tldw is silly

[Vansterdam]

^ one of my all time fave movies

[GabAlmighty]

^ one of my all time fave movies

Anything with Cage is going to be entertaining in some form or another.

[1exotic]

Ron Paul 2012

[cressydrift]

Africa never wins. Always exploited for some reason or another.

[drunkrussian]

The people that are questioning the legitimacy of the organization and the facts are the people who are not asking "what's your source" They're the ones, after watching the video, do their own research and read about the organization, the situation and Joseph Kony himself.

The monkeys that click "like" or "share" are the same people that get roped into the same bs any propaganda machine throws at them because they're too lazy to do their research.

where are they doing the research? could it be they are going to a source such as a website to do this research? i asked a simple question which u didnt answer, dont go all fight club on me for no reason
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[underscore]

If anyone needs more evidence against Kony 2012 read:

On Kony 2012 - The Daily What (http://thedailywh.at/2012/03/07/on-kony-2012-2/)
then
Taking ‘Kony 2012′ Down A Notch | Justice in Conflict (http://justiceinconflict.org/2012/03/07/taking-kony-2012-down-a-notch/)
then
the visible problem with invisible children « i’m a fan of postcards (http://ilto.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/the-visible-problem-with-invisible-children/)

Coles notes: Kony is on his last legs, and isn't even in Uganda anymore. In fact, the Ugandans aren't even allowed to attack/pursue him in the countries that he is actually in. Uganda also has a horribly bad gov't, which is as much of a problem as Kony is/was. As far as IC goes, their finances are appalling and if you *truly* want to help in Uganda/Africa, there are many charities that are significantly more deserving of your money and support.

trying to get the UN to help? good luck with that, unless Uganda's got resources (aka oil), there is no political reason for other countries to waste their time

Uganda does have oil, their production recently jumped dramatically. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if one of the reasons IC won't fully open it;'s financials is because they get funding from some oil group.

[parm104]

where are they doing the research? could it be they are going to a source such as a website to do this research? i asked a simple question which u didnt answer, dont go all fight club on me for no reason
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My personal research was based on a variety of sources on the web but also my own intuition. I already knew much of the history of Uganda and I know the direction Uganda is heading for right now. Based on that, I was able to come to the conclusion that this was more or less a media hype than anything else.

Also, since this is an official non-profit organization, their finances are all public. Based on the finances reported, I was able to my make opinion on how much relief effort this organization was ACTUALLY providing and how much of it was merely profit.

Hope that answers your question, at least in part.

On a side note, about 98% of my Facebook Kony followers are also Whitney Houston mourners. Those who "loved and always cared for Whitney."

[DasHooch]

Ron Paul 2012

Elect KONY 2012

http://files.brobible.com/images/made/files/images/videos/kony_400_400_c1_%7Bcrop_area%7D_0_0.jpg

[RecklessNS]

my bad

[twitchyzero]

http://meanwhilepics.com/images/meanwhile/Meanwhile_In_Canada.jpg

[Presto]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cbyylIXi_wQ/TIcmH9S4v-I/AAAAAAAAC7Q/GFMcBK1OAl8/s1600/lord-of-war-p.jpg

Actually, it's more related to:
http://shrani.si/f/5/11D/fLilcn7/machinegunpreacher2011bl.jpg

[Mr.C]

People live under rocks and are sheltered most of their lives. They need these MTV styled videos to motivate them and to get them riled up for a cause. Otherwise, their lives would just be plain boring. Whether or not their cause is real or not, the point is, they did something, or so they THINK. If it makes them feel good about themselves, and if they can tell other people "look what I did to help poor kids," then it's all a good cause, right? Wrong.

Ultimately, if someone is going to take part in one of these viral campaigns, they need to do their own research and investigate the cause, the history and the organization. As we've unraveled from research already shown in this thread, this video was shot in 2003 and since then this problem has been eradicated or at least relieved a fair bit. Many sources have also reported that Kony is already dead. So what exactly are you achieving in this campaign if the goals have already been achieved years ago? Self-satisfaction? People able to say you took part in something good? Guess what, this Kony guy is a dime a dozen and if you're going to try and make a relief effort, make sure it's legitimate and you know what you're cause is, don't be ignorant and follow because X, Y and Z are doing it.

Well, from my newsfeed, most people that are reposting this are the same that repost online petitions and useless crap like that.

So, yeah.

[SkinnyPupp]

I actually feel glad that I haven't seen a single post on this on my facebook.. the only thing I know of it is the meme jokes posted in the NSFW thread, and this thread

:fuckyea:

[Alatar]

Pieces Of Mee (http://pomee.tumblr.com/post/18899601760/kony-2012-causing-more-harm-than-good)

[Presto]

Here's one of the co-founders, Jason Russell's, profile (as written on PMc (http://pmc-mag.com/2011/02/jason-russell/)):



1: Who am I?

I am a rebel soul: dream evangelist. I am obsessed with people. I tell stories by making inspiring movies that move people’s emotions, and then I take those emotions and transform them into action. My middle name is Radical. I married my best friend. We have known each other since we were six and seven. I have a three-year-old boy named Gavin Danger & a one-year-old girl named Everley Darling. I truly believe I am the luckiest person on earth because of my family, friends and the ability to go to a dream factory every day for work.

2: What do you do and what project are you currently working on?

Touring a new Invisible Children movie called Tony. We will screen it to a direct audience of 500,000 people for the next three months. We will have a huge event on April 25th in which we will be going silent for 25 hours in order to raise funds and protect the child soldiers in Joseph Kony’s rebel army. I am also training for an Iron Man.

3: Where are you from and where are you going?

I am from San Diego California with an upbringing in musical theater. I am going to help end the longest running war in Africa, get Joseph Kony arrested & redefine international justice. Then I am going to direct a Hollywood musical. Then I am going to study theology & literature in Oxford, England, and then move to New York to start “The Academy” – which will be a school where the best creative young minds in the world attend.

4: Who is your biggest hero?

If Oprah, Steven Spielberg and Bono had a baby, I would be that baby.

5: What book is your bible?

East of Eden. No book will ever come as close to the love I have for that book. Timshel.

6: What are some things you love? And some things you hate?

I love:
Brewing my own beer, watching documentaries, bouncing on the bed with my children, traveling to undiscovered places, forgiveness, cheese and Mumford & Sons.

Hate:
Ignorance. Laziness. Injustice.

7: What is your raison d’être?

To do impossible things. And to see lives wake up to their true potential.

8: What is your favorite color?

Red. For every single reason you can think of. Love. Hate. Passion.

9: Who is your favorite comic book superhero?

Peter Pan.

10: What is your favorite NYC hot spot?

Little Branch.

11: What turns you on?

Pregnant women. (This is not a joke).

12: What would the last question of this questionnaire be if you were the one asking?

If you could meet anyone in the world, who would it be and what would you tell them?


I think he comes off as a narcissistic douchebag, but that's just me.

[dat_steve]

^ narcissistic *hipster* douchebag by the sounds of it.

[Mike Oxbig]

Not as bad as pol pot who killed 1/3 (800,000 - 3 million people out of 7 million population) of the cambodia population alone with his army khmer rogue

[Geoc]

Not as bad as pol pot who killed 1/3 (800,000 - 3 million people out of 7 million population) of the cambodia population alone with his army khmer rogue

That's not important, they cannot be proven to have child soldiers and slaves. Children are much more marketable.

[tofu1413]

armed intervention?

http://www.dailyfreegames.com/fwallpapers/size1/War_Machine%201_wall_800.jpg

probably send in war machine.

[Redlines_Daily]

Invisible children have released a statement in response to the criticism:

InvisibleChildren (http://www.invisiblechildren.com.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/critiques.html)

Good or bad, it seems they have the attention they were seeking. Interesting to see how this will develop.

[highfive]

So this guy takes his 4-5 year old son to a room and tries to tell him who Jospeh Kony is?

A young innocent little kid who doesn't even know what's good and bad is. He thinks it fucking star wars..

He's telling HIS OWN SON that he lives in a bad world where people like Joseph Kony takes children and forces them to use guns to shoot people.

How is that a fucking responsible parent? And that explains for him missing from his son's early life by "fighting bad guys"?

Yet this is the guy who's going to be part of the change? :fulloffuck:

[StaxBundlez]

^ i fail to see your point here

He's trying to explain it to his son on a level that he can understand it at. I personally think he did a great job.

The problem is people seem to shelter their kids rather then educate them. When you think something is bad or inappropriate for your kids it's better just to completely shut them off from it right?

Take sex and contraception for example. Parents in the US were outraged about sex-ed being taught to students at such a young age. Even more mind boggling was the parents stance on the use of contraception; believing that it was some anti pro-life device. When the numbers were added up which kids do you think had a higher rate of teen pregnancy and STDs? The educated or uneducated kids?

Carl Sagan said, rather then discouraging a child, it's better to educated (properly) them and feed their curiosity. I don't mean tell them that the warlords are forcing kids his age to mutilate their buddies. I mean educate them on a level they can understand.

[rawr]

Yes, these guys could be using this viral marketing campaign for their own benefits.
Yes, they could be making matters worse in Uganda for people.
Yes, the goals may not come to fruition.

But nothing will change, nothing will happen if nobody brought this to to the attention of millions of people around the western world. It'll just get dragged for another few decades. Yes, this issue has been widely reported before this video came online, but what harm is there by creating awareness of Kony's wrongdoings? Sharing the video or donating to their cause probably won't do anything. The goals of these guys probably will not be realized, but then again, sitting idly and doing nothing helps either. Would it not be better to be aware than oblivious?

[Razor Ramon HG]

http://i.imgur.com/K3mgn.jpg

[rsx]

Invisible children have released a statement in response to the criticism:

InvisibleChildren (http://www.invisiblechildren.com.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/critiques.html)

Good or bad, it seems they have the attention they were seeking. Interesting to see how this will develop.

Re-up on a fucking good read. Well written with some personal insights on the issue.

If you're argument is that "it brings attention to the matter", then I suggest you read this.

Edit: pffft. I quoted the wrong link.

I meant this article: Pieces Of Mee (http://pomee.tumblr.com/post/18899601760/kony-2012-causing-more-harm-than-good)

[Mananetwork]

Razor Ramon HG, did you even read any of the pages?!

[falcon]

He's a Christian terrorist of a Christian terrorist organization, but we'll all just leave that out and simply say he's a war criminal

fuckin douches




Lol, just because it's called the "Lord's Resistance Army" does not make it a Christian organization. Give you head shake.

[SkinnyPupp]

Lol, just because it's called the "Lord's Resistance Army" does not make it a Christian organization. Give you head shake.
Actually that's exactly what they are. Everything they do is in the name of christianity.

[Anjew]

80k a year only?? i'd want to be paid MORE if i was going into a dangerous country NONE of us will go and video tape everything i can, MORE if i had a son.

[mr_chin]

^ i fail to see your point here

He's trying to explain it to his son on a level that he can understand it at. I personally think he did a great job.

The problem is people seem to shelter their kids rather then educate them. When you think something is bad or inappropriate for your kids it's better just to completely shut them off from it right?

Take sex and contraception for example. Parents in the US were outraged about sex-ed being taught to students at such a young age. Even more mind boggling was the parents stance on the use of contraception; believing that it was some anti pro-life device. When the numbers were added up which kids do you think had a higher rate of teen pregnancy and STDs? The educated or uneducated kids?

Carl Sagan said, rather then discouraging a child, it's better to educated (properly) them and feed their curiosity. I don't mean tell them that the warlords are forcing kids his age to mutilate their buddies. I mean educate them on a level they can understand.

You definitely to see the point here. The problem here is

1) the kid is 4 - 5 years old. Do you think his father should be telling him about a third world country rebel?
2) his intention is not to try to teach his son but rather video record him for his social media to bring attention to kony. Viewers will see that when a cute little kid is judging the kony as a bad guy and what should be done to him. It's a tactic to make viewers agree with the video

[Soundy]

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/418314_10151368132130402_634995401_23417283_407827 55_n.jpg

[Presto]

IC responds (http://s3.amazonaws.com/www.invisiblechildren.com/critiques.html)

Critiques

Thank you for reading this and doing further research about Invisible Children and Kony 2012. In response to this explosion of interest about the Kony 2012 film, there have been hundreds of thousands of comments in support of the arrest of Joseph Kony and the work of Invisible Children. However, there have also been a few pieces written that are putting out false or mis-leading information about these efforts. This statement is our official response to some of these articles and is a source for accurate information about Invisible Children’s mission, financials and approach to stopping LRA violence.

Invisible Children’s mission is to stop LRA violence and support the war affected communities in Central Africa. These are the three ways we achieve that mission. Each is essential: 1) Document and make the world aware of the LRA. This includes making documentary films and touring these films around the world so that they are seen for free by millions of people. 2) Channeling the energy and awareness from informed viewers of IC films into large scale advocacy campaigns that have mobilized the international community to stop the LRA and protect civilians. 3) Operate programs on the ground in the LRA-affected areas to provide protection, rehabilitation and development assistance.

As you will see, we spend roughly one third of our money on each of these three goals. This three-prong approach is what makes invisible children unique. Some organizations focus exclusively on documenting human rights abuses, some focus exclusively on international advocacy or awareness, and some focus exclusively on, on-the-ground development. We do all three. At the same time. This comprehensive model is intentional and has shown to be very effective.
Re: Financials

Invisible Children’s financial statements are online for everyone to see. Financial statements from the last 5 years, including our 990, are available at Invisible Children - Financials (http://www.invisiblechildren.com/financials). The organization spent 80.46% on our programs that further our three fold mission, 16.24% on administration and management costs and 3.22% on direct fundraising in FY2011. Invisible Children is independently audited every year and in full compliance with our 501 c 3 status.

Below is a screen-shot from pages 35 and 36 of the 2011 Invisible Children annual report that detail our total expenses for Fiscal Year 2011. An expense statement by class is the way nonprofits present their expenses to the public because it’s the clearest way to show the purpose of different organizational expenses vs. a line item expense statement such as the one on Page 6 of our Audited Financial Report.

Re: Charity Navigator Rating

Charity Navigator gives our Programs its highest rating of 4 stars. Our Accountability and Transparency score is currently at 2 stars due primarily to the single fact that Invisible Children does not have 5 independent voting members on our board of directors--we currently have 4. We are in the process of interviewing potential board members, and we will add an additional independent member this year in order to regain our 4-star rating by 2013. We have been independently audited by Considine and Considine, since the fiscal year end of June 30, 2006 and all of our audits have resulted in unqualified opinions on the audit reports.
Re: Better Business Bureau (BBB)

Participation in BBB's program is voluntary-- we are choosing to wait until we have expanded our Board of Directors, as some questions hinge on the size of our Board. The current Board is small in size and reflects Invisible Children’s grassroots foundation. Invisible Children has now reached a juncture of success that has astonished even its greatest supporters. While it is important to retain a presence on the Board that reflects Invisible Children's early beginnings, we also are working to realign the structure this year.

The best researched paper supporting the policy position of the KONY 2012 campaign can be found here, drafted by Paul Ronan of Resolve: Resolve - Peace Can Be (http://www.theresolve.org/peace-can-be--3)

But here are a few quick responses to some of the most common questions we’re seeing online:
Re: The strategy to secure Kony arrest

For more than two decades, Kony has refused opportunities to negotiate an end to the violence peacefully, and governments of countries where Kony has operated -- including Uganda, South Sudan, Democratic Republic of Congo, and Central African Republic -- have been unable to capture Kony or bring him to justice. This is because regional governments are often not adequately committed to the task, but also because they lack some of the specific capabilities that would help them do so. The KONY 2012 campaign is calling for U.S. leadership to address both problems. It supports the deployment of U.S. advisors and the provision of intelligence and other support that can help locate and bring Kony to justice, but also increased diplomacy to hold regional governments accountable to their basic responsibilities to protect civilians from this kind of brutal violence. Importantly, the campaign also advocates for broader measures to help communities being affected by LRA attacks, such as increased funding for programs to help Kony's abductees escape and return to their homes and families. For a clear understanding of the KONY 2012 political goals, please see the letter to President Obama.
Re: Ugandan government human rights record

We do not defend any of the human rights abuses perpetrated by the Ugandan government or the Ugandan army (UPDF). None of the money donated through Invisible Children ever goes to the government of Uganda. Yet the only feasible and proper way to stop Kony and protect the civilians he targets is to coordinate efforts with regional governments.
Re: Stopping Kony

We are advocating for the arrest of Joseph Kony so that he can be tried by the International Criminal Court (ICC) as a precedent for future war criminals. The goal of Kony 2012 is for the world to unite to see him arrested and prosecuted for his crimes against humanity.
Re: Why work with the UPDF if the LRA is no longer in northern Uganda

The LRA left northern Uganda in 2006. The LRA is currently active in Democratic Republic of Congo, Central African Republic, and South Sudan. Invisible Children’s mission is to stop Joseph Kony and the LRA wherever they are and help rehabilitate LRA-affected communities. The Ugandan government’s army, the UPDF, is more organized and better equipped than that of any of the other affected countries (DRC, South Sudan, CAR) to track down Joseph Kony. Part of the US strategy to stop Kony is to encourage cooperation between the governments and armies of the 4 LRA-affected countries. The LRA was active in Uganda for nearly 20 years, displacing 1.7 million people and abducting at least 30,000 children. The people and government of Uganda have a vested interested in seeing him stopped.
Re: Programs on the Ground

While the vast majority of the recent exposure and commentary about Invisible Children has been towards the awareness portion of our mission, below is an up-to-date explanation of our direct work in Central Africa, an equally important element to the mission of Invisible Children.
Re: The photo of the founders with the guns (see banner image)

A story told by Jason Russell: The photo of Bobby, Laren and I with the guns was taken in an LRA camp in DRC during the 2008 Juba Peace Talks. We were there to see Joseph Kony come to the table to sign the Final Peace Agreement. The Sudan People’s Liberation Army (SPLA) was surrounding our camp for protection since Sudan was mediating the peace talks. We wanted to talk to them and film them and get their perspective. And because Bobby, Laren and I are friends and had been doing this for 5 years, we thought it would be funny to bring back to our friends and family a joke photo. You know, “Haha - they have bazookas in their hands but they’re actually fighting for peace.” The ironic thing about this photo is that I HATE guns. I always have. Back in 2008 I wanted this war to end, like we all did, peacefully, through peace talks. But Kony was not interested in that; he kept killing. And we still don’t want war. We don’t want him killed and we don’t want bombs dropped. We want him alive and captured and brought to justice.
Invisible Children’s Program in Democratic Republic of Congo, Central African Republic and South Sudan:

Protecting communities and demobilizing the LRA
HF Early Warning Radio Network:

To address the lack of information from the most vulnerable and remote communities, Invisible Children partnered with Commission Diocesaine Justice et Paix (CDJP), under the umbrella of the Catholic Diocese of Dungu, to expand a High Frequency (HF) Radio Network connecting communities to one another through twice-daily security and humanitarian reporting. This network allows for advanced warning of LRA activity and increased security information for humanitarian responders. Communities participating in the project were selected due to their susceptibility to LRA attack and their lack of the communication infrastructure necessary to report and receive security information. A Local Protection Committee is established in each community to gather and disseminate information, provide regular maintenance to the equipment, and to ensure that trained operators in each community are carrying out the daily reporting,

This project connects communities with local and international humanitarian groups, ultimately allowing for heightened humanitarian response, while limiting the LRA’s ability to attack without warning. Through Invisible Children’s support, there are now 27 communities linked into the HF Early Warning System in Haut and Bas Uele.

FM Radio: To encourage and facilitate the surrender of LRA combatants, Invisible Children partnered with UN DDR/RR and Interactive Radio for Justice (IRfJ) to increase the capacity of Radio Zereda, a community-run FM radio in Obo, Central African Republic, from 1km to an over 30-km radius. Through locally produced radio programming, members the victims’ association in Obo and cultural leaders from LRA-affected regions share insight and sensitize local populations to the LRA’s activities. In conjunction with sensitization, LRA-directed programming is broadcast in both the local Pazande and Acholi languages to encourage and give instructions for peaceful surrender.

In 2011, Invisible Children also provided support to repair Radio Rhinoceros in Faradje, and provided monetary support for a DDR/RR mobile FM unit deployed on rotation in Haut Uele. Additional community-FM projects in Haut Uele and in the highly remote and vulnerable district of Bas Uele are being identified and assessed for support during the 2012 calendar year.

LRA Crisis Tracker: The LRA Crisis Tracker is a real-time mapping platform and data collection system created to bring an unprecedented level of transparency to the atrocities of the Lord’s Resistance Army. Using information sourced from Invisible Children’s Early Warning Radio Network, UN agencies, and local NGOs, this tool allows for better response from governments, policy-makers, and humanitarian organizations. This joint project, developed by Invisible Children and Resolve, marks the first time data surrounding the crisis has been comprehensively aggregated and made publicly available.
Rehabilitation Center:

As forceful abductions continue throughout Central Africa, Invisible Children is partnering with a renowned LRA-trauma specialist, Els de Temmerman, and the leadership of CDJP-Dungu, to establish the first intensive rehabilitation program in the LRA-affected regions of northeastern Congo. The center, located in Dungu, is locally managed and provides one-on-one counseling, utilizing UNICEF-approved Narrative Exposure Therapy (NET). The center provides vocational and life skills training and reunification services. Upon completion of the second phase of construction, the center will have capacity for up to 250 children and youth to live and receive holistic counseling services. Currently, a limited number of severely traumatized children are receiving treatment while the center builds staff capacity and develops systems in preparation for full operation. Program management will continue to coordinate with both local and international NGOs and UN agencies to ensure that the center’s activities are utilized by, and fit within, the regional psychosocial and protection strategies.
Uganda:

Promoting peace and prosperity through Education and Livelihood initiatives
Legacy Scholarship Program (LSP):

The scholarship provides fully paid, merit-based scholarships and mentoring from local full-time IC Mentors. Students are selected based on academic potential and need.

Stats as of December 2011:
University students: 250
Secondary students: 590 (currently recruiting additional students)
Schools for Schools (S4S):

This program partners with 11 secondary schools and their surrounding communities in northern Uganda, working on projects that both build and renovate structures, while also investing in teachers and curriculum. The program also facilitates a yearly Teacher Exchange Program benefiting both Ugandan and international educators.

Stats as of December 2011:
Partner schools: 11
Students attending partner schools: 9,048
Livelihood Program:

The Livelihood Program takes a holistic approach to providing sustainable economic growth and improved living conditions for war-affected northern Ugandans. It impacts rural communities using a three-pronged approach: over 1,250 community members are saving and loaning together, participating in our Village Savings and Loan Associations (VSLA) program; 5,000 community members are benefiting from clean water and health and sanitation initiatives through the Water, Sanitation, and Hygiene (WASH) program; and over 1,000 people are receiving training on numeracy, reading, and writing in their local language as a part of our Functional Adult Literacy (FAL) program.

Stats as of December 2011:
WASH: over 5,000 (20 communities with an average of 250 community members)
VSLA: 1,250 community members (50 groups of 25-30 members each)
FAL: 1,000 community members (50 groups of 20-25 members each)
These are the stats used by the KONY 2012 film and campaign:

30,000+ children abducted in Uganda by the LRA
Source (2007): http://www.worldvision.com.au/Libraries/3_1_1_-_Issues_-_Children/Child_soldiers_Uganda.pdf

66,000 youth (interviewed when 14-30 years old) abducted by the LRA
Source (2006): http://chrisblattman.com/documents/policy/sway/SWAY.Phase1.FinalReport.pdf?9d7bd4

2.1 million people displaced in Uganda
Source (2010): Uganda | OCHA in 2010 (http://ochaonline.un.org/ocha2010/uganda.html)

440,000 people displaced in DRC, CAR, and South Sudan:
Source (2011): http://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/resources/map_1044.pdf
Re: On a personal note.

We’ve done our utmost to be as inclusive, transparent, and factual as possible. We built this organization with “seeing is believing” in mind, and that’s what why we are a media-based organization. We WANT you to see everything we are doing, because we are proud of it. Though we would no longer consider ourselves naive, we have always sought counsel from those who know much more. We have never claimed a desire to “save Africa,” but, instead, an intent to inspire Western youth to “do more than just watch.” And in Central Africa, focus on locally-led long-term development programs that enable children to take responsibility for their own futures and the futures of their countries. Our programs are carefully researched and developed initiatives by incredible members of the local community that address the need for quality education, mentorship, the redevelopment of schools, resettlement from the camps, and rehabilitation from war - and if you know anyone who has been there to see it first hand, there is no doubt they will concur. Also, we have invited you to join us on LRACrisisTracker.com, which we established as a way to bring you near real-time reports from the ground, making available to the public the same information received by humanitarians working on the ground.

But, credibility in the eyes of policymakers, fellow non-profit workers, LRA-affected communities, and YOU is our most important asset, so we would like to encourage you, if you have critiques, to get specific: find facts, dig deeper, and we’ll gladly continue the conversation from there. If encountering something you disagree with, suggest an alternative to what we are doing- and we will absolutely take heed. If it’s a matter of opinion, taste, humor, or style: we apologize, and will have to agree to disagree. As the poet Ke$ha says, “we are who we are.”

Let's focus on what matters, and what we DO agree on: Joseph Kony needs to be stopped. And when that happens, peace is the limit. This is the beautiful beginning of an ending that is just the beginning. We are defending tomorrow. And it’s hopeful.
Stay Informed


EDIT: already posted further up

[SpuGen]

Found this on my FB wall.
It's too funny to not share this on RS. She made this post after I posted a meme mocking the Kony thing.

Alannah B
To the people ragging on the KONY 2012 campaign. How exactly are you making a difference? By trying to discredit the Invisible Children campaign? unfortunately not everything is free in this world so they obviously need spend money on things in order to spread the word. So if you're not going to spread the word at least don't hinder or discredit those who are ACTIVELY trying making a change.


Invisible Children | Kony2012 (http://kony2012.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/)

KONY 2012 - WATCH THE FILM
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Joseph Kony is the world’s worst war criminal. KONY 2012 is a 24-minute film that explains everything he’s done and how he can be stopped. This year. #KONY2012
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Evan P ‎9 years in Iraq and now you want to send troops over to fight some guerrilla war (this will be Vietnam all over again) in the African jungle over some warlord who has been missing for almost 6 years?

Do people understand how these things work? We don't just have an awareness wand to wave around and suddenly Kony appears. No, this man has been hiding in a jungle in which no military has ever even imagined entering. The outcome of military intervention will be a blood bath. Do yourself a favour and research just how dangerous the Congo really is, oh and there are two Congo's, so please pick the right one.

The only difference you're making is bringing napalm back to war. But hey, you're ACTIVELY making a change, and all change is good right?
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Lauren Parker True that sister! Unfortunately there will ALWAYS be resistance with any sort of change. Either way, good or bad, this movement is being talking about. That's what matters!!
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Evan P
Why the Kony documentary and Invisible Children are one-sided - please read. : politics (http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/qm349/why_the_kony_documentary_and_invisible_children/) -- Read now!
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Lauren Parker Well well. That's an opinion if I've ever seen one. I realize this "war" is a dangerous one. But the Kony 2012 is about awareness. Strength in numbers. Like I said, no matter what, change will always bring about some sort of resistance and that is evident all over Facebook and these blogs. I say: fair enough, do your research before you join the movement, but GOSH people are looking way too into this. We're bringing a deserving criminal to justice. This is proof that one voice can make a difference by means of the butterfly effect. There is a reason this man is the #1 criminal in the world. There is a reason his name is on the top of that list. He is a bad man. Also, it is inevitable that change requires monetary support. As if anything is free in this world. T shirts and bracelets are means of propaganda and they AREN'T FREE. so yes I understand why they're asking for money. It makes perfect sense. Rather than resisting this join the numbers and make a difference where we can. We are strong and have all the resources to make change for the future. Criminals and war lords like Kony must know that they cannot get away with these sorts of I humane killings any more.
about an hour ago · Like

Evan P Read the article. Please.
about an hour ago · Like

Lauren Parker I did.
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Evan P That article destroys every single point you tried to make in your response. I don't know what else any one could possible say to convince people just how destructive this "movement" will be.

You're not creating peace or stopping a war criminal, you're creating a new battleground in which you know none of the implications.

Please, and I ask you sincerely, read that article again. I know you think you're helping, but you're not and it isn't pessimistic people trying to convince you of this, it's well-informed people who have been working on this issue since the beginning.
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Lauren Parker I did.
about an hour ago · Like

Evan P Well, lets go to the Congo and start a war then. Blood for blood, that's the pacifist way.
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Lauren Parker Just another persons opinion. That's fine. We're all e titled to our own opinions. That's what makes the world a beautiful place. Our people are so educated that it's apparent that we will NEVER all agree. Just saying that our generation has the chance to make legitimate change. If this campaign truly works, it is proof that one small voice can make a huge difference not just locally but globally. It's inspirational to say the least. I say no more because I don' use Facebook to rant. Tata
about an hour ago · Like

Evan P ‎"Our people are so educated" - ahahahahaha

Have a good day.
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[Presto]

Women. Give them something emotional to overwhelm them into doing "something". My wife is like that, and knowing that, I countered with the links posted in this thread. Also, sent her the co-founder's profile, and suggested that he's a self-serving, narcissistic, hipster douchebag. That worked. :D

[gdoh]

hahah i tried to talk to a person about this and i respect for her especially when i caught her in a lie, sent her some responses from here and she said she read it already in an article.....:Orly:

[MindBomber]

Why can't these people not understand one simple concept; we aren't pro-Kony, we're just not pro-invisible children!

They act as if IV is a unique entity, the first group to stand up against Kony or the like, when that couldn't be further from the truth. IV is the group that got lucky with a video going viral, nothing more. There are more worthy charities, that are more well managed, with more practical plans of effecting change that deserve support.

[Mike Oxbig]

He has been doing this for 26 years and africa is still over populated? Kony recruit new born then killed and respawn like creeps just keep on coming trying to help the world not to become over populated. God is already helping us to have aids originate from there so population does not over grow like mold growing on a bagel.

[SpuGen]

KONY 2012 - Cover the City Vancouver B.C. | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/events/375443385807858/)

L. O. Fucking L.

[gdoh]

LOL is that hitler and bin laden behind him LOL holy fuck its like reading the biggest troll post ever

[OTG-ZR2]

Found this on my FB wall.
It's too funny to not share this on RS. She made this post after I posted a meme mocking the Kony thing.



Alannah B
To the people ragging on the KONY 2012 campaign. How exactly are you making a difference? By trying to discredit the Invisible Children campaign? unfortunately not everything is free in this world so they obviously need spend money on things in order to spread the word. So if you're not going to spread the word at least don't hinder or discredit those who are ACTIVELY trying making a change.


Invisible Children | Kony2012 (http://kony2012.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/)

KONY 2012 - WATCH THE FILM
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Joseph Kony is the world’s worst war criminal. KONY 2012 is a 24-minute film that explains everything he’s done and how he can be stopped. This year. #KONY2012
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Evan P ‎9 years in Iraq and now you want to send troops over to fight some guerrilla war (this will be Vietnam all over again) in the African jungle over some warlord who has been missing for almost 6 years?

Do people understand how these things work? We don't just have an awareness wand to wave around and suddenly Kony appears. No, this man has been hiding in a jungle in which no military has ever even imagined entering. The outcome of military intervention will be a blood bath. Do yourself a favour and research just how dangerous the Congo really is, oh and there are two Congo's, so please pick the right one.

The only difference you're making is bringing napalm back to war. But hey, you're ACTIVELY making a change, and all change is good right?
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Lauren Parker True that sister! Unfortunately there will ALWAYS be resistance with any sort of change. Either way, good or bad, this movement is being talking about. That's what matters!!
2 hours ago · Like

Evan P
Why the Kony documentary and Invisible Children are one-sided - please read. : politics (http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/qm349/why_the_kony_documentary_and_invisible_children/) -- Read now!
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Lauren Parker Well well. That's an opinion if I've ever seen one. I realize this "war" is a dangerous one. But the Kony 2012 is about awareness. Strength in numbers. Like I said, no matter what, change will always bring about some sort of resistance and that is evident all over Facebook and these blogs. I say: fair enough, do your research before you join the movement, but GOSH people are looking way too into this. We're bringing a deserving criminal to justice. This is proof that one voice can make a difference by means of the butterfly effect. There is a reason this man is the #1 criminal in the world. There is a reason his name is on the top of that list. He is a bad man. Also, it is inevitable that change requires monetary support. As if anything is free in this world. T shirts and bracelets are means of propaganda and they AREN'T FREE. so yes I understand why they're asking for money. It makes perfect sense. Rather than resisting this join the numbers and make a difference where we can. We are strong and have all the resources to make change for the future. Criminals and war lords like Kony must know that they cannot get away with these sorts of I humane killings any more.
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Evan P Read the article. Please.
about an hour ago · Like

Lauren Parker I did.
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Evan P That article destroys every single point you tried to make in your response. I don't know what else any one could possible say to convince people just how destructive this "movement" will be.

You're not creating peace or stopping a war criminal, you're creating a new battleground in which you know none of the implications.

Please, and I ask you sincerely, read that article again. I know you think you're helping, but you're not and it isn't pessimistic people trying to convince you of this, it's well-informed people who have been working on this issue since the beginning.
about an hour ago · Like

Lauren Parker I did.
about an hour ago · Like

Evan P Well, lets go to the Congo and start a war then. Blood for blood, that's the pacifist way.
about an hour ago · Like

Lauren Parker Just another persons opinion. That's fine. We're all e titled to our own opinions. That's what makes the world a beautiful place. Our people are so educated that it's apparent that we will NEVER all agree. Just saying that our generation has the chance to make legitimate change. If this campaign truly works, it is proof that one small voice can make a huge difference not just locally but globally. It's inspirational to say the least. I say no more because I don' use Facebook to rant. Tata
about an hour ago · Like

Evan P ‎"Our people are so educated" - ahahahahaha

Have a good day.
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I saw that too. LP was a total :facepalm:

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

isn't it common knowledge this shit always happens in africa and always will?

i find it scary that people are finding this out for the first times in their lives... what the fuck do they do on their spare times? lol watch the kim kardashian show?

shouldn't any late teen or young adult, already KNOW this shit is happening? this shouldnt be new knowledge in any way or form.

aids, warlords, child solders, and more aids... and lions.

what else is new in africa?

oh and a little english lession:

INFANTtry.

you wonder how they came up with that word huh

[Ronin]

Oh great, another Occupy Vancouver maybe?

I only have so much room for things to care about and this just isn't one of them.

[gdoh]

occupy movement was a far better cause than this, but it got derailed fast by stupid hippies that didnt really understand what it was for

[rsx]

lol my posts are getting deleted on the KONY2012 Cover the City Facebook page. What a bunch of dinks!

[Presto]

make a post and tag them in it!

[mikemhg]

I'm just tired of the culture of followers Facebook as twitter created. People don't think anymore, they see some viral shit and jump on the bandwagon without thinking. People post the video to feel good about themselves, they could give a flying fuck at the end of the day, you know I'm right. Kony has been killing for decades, what about Mugabe now? What about Idi Amin during his time? There are war crimes in happening right now in Sudan, Liberia, Congo you name it in Africa.

The Kony video while nice to spread awareness, does fuck all to solve the problem. Ya maybe Kony will finally get killed, maybe not. But you know what? There will be another Kony to take his place, and we will all forget yet again. The truth is Africa doesn't matter to the western world this video is viral now but no one will be saying Kony in a few weeks. Enough with the false support, killing one flea won't fix the dog. Tribalism needs to die in Africa. Africa needs education, economy, and most of all the end of the tribalist mentality. No country in Africa is remotely unified, a friend in a different tribe that lives maybe 10 minutes from you can be a sworn enemy when civil war erupts. If Uganda had any sense of unity within its people a guy like Kony could never exist.

[Phozy]

Another boycott? :troll:

Those who truly believe in this, In my opinion, is at a total loss and have not done their research. Or, like LP, believe it and their brain just blocks out contradicting information.
But I can't say I'm totally against it. I'm sure I'd feel different if I've experienced this sort of thing or looked at these kids in the eyes. Its perspective, no?
Kill the leader, and another will pop up. Cut the people supporting, the guns, fuel, weapons, and what will he have?
Kony2012 helps to spread awareness, but like mike said, it does fuck all to solve anything. IC is gonna make a lotta money...

Kinda off topix, but I've read 4billion dollars have gone to africa in aid in the past few decades. Where does It go? Organizations and corrupt gov'ts, or the wrong things. They need an education, being able to support and think for yourself without the fear of walking around and getting shot. No matter how educated they are, if they're supressed by their surroundings, how are the educated ones supposed to make a change? They need to get rid of their corrupt govt and end all the rivalries n such
I don't want to call certain people stupid and dumb, but for lack of words, they are.
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[mikemhg]

You know what's really funny though? You see these gay hispters posting this KONY crap to support the Ugandan government "find" this asshole, meanwhile the government in Uganda are passing laws to make homosexuality a punishable offense with death. I find that shit really amusing.

[rsx]

http://youtu.be/QdkI-PoVo64

[rsx]

You know what's really funny though? You see these gay hispters posting this KONY crap to support the Ugandan government "find" this asshole, meanwhile the government in Uganda are passing laws to make homosexuality a punishable offense with death. I find that shit really amusing.

Technically...
Uganda Anti-Gay Bill Gets Government Resistance (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/09/uganda-anti-gay-bill-government-_n_1265260.html)

tl;dr -->

KAMPALA, Uganda -- Uganda's government does not support a parliamentarian's decision to reintroduce a bill that originally proposed the death penalty for some homosexual acts, the government said in responding to renewed criticism by rights activists who oppose the bill...

[mikemhg]

The only reason the Ugandan government pulled back was due to international pressure, and the threat of International Aid being pulled back.

The president himself supported the bill man:

"Uganda's president Yoweri Museveni openly expressed his support for the bill, stating "We used to say Mr and Mrs, but now it is Mr and Mr. What is that now?""

Did you know that same sex relationships are illegal in Uganda, and is punishable with jail time?

None of this really matters to me, as Africa as a whole has a lot more problems thanhan this, I just find it funny seeing hipsters supporting a government that in itself is commiting crimes no different than KONY.

Which goes back to my first point. RESEARCH. LEARN. Before supporting bullshit like this.

Technically...
Uganda Anti-Gay Bill Gets Government Resistance (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/09/uganda-anti-gay-bill-government-_n_1265260.html)

tl;dr -->

KAMPALA, Uganda -- Uganda's government does not support a parliamentarian's decision to reintroduce a bill that originally proposed the death penalty for some homosexual acts, the government said in responding to renewed criticism by rights activists who oppose the bill...

[sonick]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/15879353.jpg

[Valour]

If only the whole earth can contribute something to defeat this bad person... hmmm reminds me a little of this:
SPIRIT BOMB!
DBZ: Buu is death by Goku's Spirit Bomb! - YouTube

[Phozy]

^best cartoon ever, teaches good moral (y)

glad i was able to talk some sense into some people :facepalm:
Hope people start researching and hearing about the other side of the story, not the one sided lies in the video

interested to see where this will be heading..

[Excelsis]

The Alarming TRUTH about Kony 2012 (Re-uploaded) - YouTube


lol found?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSMZdVZ2BZo

[gdoh]

This was just on the news did anyone see it?? Supposedly the owners of the video answered peoples questions...

[OTG-ZR2]

They answered some questions here:
InvisibleChildren (http://s3.amazonaws.com/www.invisiblechildren.com/critiques.html)
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[smarv]

He explains the facts, and lets you to judge for yourself. :thumbsup: to Chao

The Truth About Kony 2012 (Chinese Guy's Opinion) - YouTube

[SkinnyPupp]

If you're not stupid enough to fall for a silly trend on facebook and give your money to a meaningless cause, but still want to help one of the many crises in Africa, check out this list:

The Best Way to Assist in Providing Relief in Africa - CharityWatch giving alert (http://www.charitywatch.org/hottopics/africa_crises.html)

[surreyjack604]

did they find oil in Uganda or something theres no way this is getting media coverage because its for a good cause

[Death2Theft]

This is a 100% scam to destabalize the area and kick the chinese out. The area is known for rare precious metals for electronics use.

[StaxBundlez]

If you're not stupid enough to fall for a silly trend on facebook and give your money to a meaningless cause, but still want to help one of the many crises in Africa, check out this list:

The Best Way to Assist in Providing Relief in Africa - CharityWatch giving alert (http://www.charitywatch.org/hottopics/africa_crises.html)

He's got a point here. You HAVE TO BE CAREFUL when you donate money online to these types of causes.. it's a very easy time for scammers to make a quick buck. This is what happened during the time of the earthquake and tsunami in Japan; sad but true.
BE CAUTIOUS if you're donating money.

[Prelude_driva]

Hate to Break it to you all this KONY 2012 thing isn't gonna happen....you know why? He's in bed with the CIA. The CIA is backing the Ugandan Gov't and Kony's LRA at the same time...The Conflict allows the USA to have a "Humanitarian aid" presence in these countries so that they can hand their resources over to corporations on a Silver Platter! you're telling me 100 soldiers with sophisticated technology can't find one lil hoodrat hiding in a tree?!? STFU! Its funny how this Kony issue becomes Viral at a time when Obama needs to rally support that hes doing "good"...


This KONY 2012 Campaign seems to be Gov't backed in the first place. This Video seems to focus more on Promoting KONY and making him known than promoting the charity itself!! The Gov't has graduated to using Social Media as a propaganda tool. All this is video is doing is Brainwashing and Rallying support in order to justify an American presence in Africa's resourceful nations.

[SkinnyPupp]

And this needed to be a new thread why?

Plus those are some pretty bold statements to make with absolutely no sources at all (not that your sources would be anything other than stupid conspiracy theory websites)

[surreyjack604]

we know bro nobody cares

[jepho]

nevermind

[RecklessNS]

you could've just added this in the KONY 2012 thread instead of making a new one :facepalm:

[CorneringArtist]

Couldn't post in the Kony thread, and posted no sources?

:rukidding:

[drunkrussian]

Plus those are some pretty bold statements to make with absolutely no sources at all (not that your sources would be anything other than stupid conspiracy theory websites)

this made me lol
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[Death2Theft]

I wonder what the last place the US set foot on that is actually happy with the US after they left.

[Renxo]

yawn STFU

[kwy]

Big claims, no sources.

[pinn3r]

cool story, don't tell it again

[rsx]

Hey Alex Jones, can you cite your sources?

[jpark]

we know bro nobody cares

nice username :lawl:

[rsx]

where are they doing the research? could it be they are going to a source such as a website to do this research? i asked a simple question which u didnt answer, dont go all fight club on me for no reason
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Missed this question.

I thought it was safe to assume people would Google Uganda, their government, political and military history? How else are people supposed to research?

Lol. Not going fight club on you, bruv.

[Domani]

LRA was already dying - The Globe and Mail (http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/lords-resistance-army-discovered-just-as-its-dying/article2363751/?service=mobile)

[1exotic]

Surprised that there is no google ads up on the video.

With those views right now (about 50 million), that's about 1 million dollars from google adsense youtube partnership.

[Drow]

Yo OP stop watching sons of anarchy, what r u, gay?
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[Eastwood]

I wonder what the last place the US set foot on that is actually happy with the US after they left.
How about South Korea, Kuwait, Croatia??? The list could continue friend.

[palepilsenpin0y]

OP should change avatar into:

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/203/685/conspiracy-keanu.jpg?1321901003

[bloodline129]

How about South Korea, Kuwait, Croatia??? The list could continue friend.

That's a bold statement haha I'm a Croat n was stuck in war there between 91 n 95... We ain't fukin happy that the fukin yankees came in our country and tried to dictate our war which way it should go... Fuk states and their shit... They should stop tryi g to get involved in everybodies bizz. Fuk e
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[Prelude_driva]

Being a Pol Sci Major at SFU I seem to have a very well informed prof. Who spoke of a Richard Cottrell, who basically more or less admits the CIA are backing both sides. This was said during our lecture today, however for those who want facts that the US is there for resources, read the link below.

Kony 2012: Viral video for the misinformed? — RT (http://rt.com/news/koni-viral-video-campaign-133/)

[Nightwalker]

you're telling me 100 soldiers with sophisticated technology can't find one lil hoodrat hiding in a tree?!? STFU!

100 soldiers vs up to 3,000 guerillas on home turf (which is the jungles of central fucking Africa).

Yeah, total cakewalk dude.

[CRS]

100 soldiers vs up to 3,000 guerillas on home turf (which is the jungles of central fucking Africa).

Yeah, total cakewalk dude.

You're still making it far too easy. Drawing from recent events, how long did it take the US and the rest of the world to find Osama Bin Laden? Or for that matter, Saddam Hussein?

[SkinnyPupp]

Ask the US soldiers how easy it was to fight Guerrillas in Vietnam. They had air force, massively advanced technology, and everything.

[RacePace]

http://i.imgur.com/TWHpV.png

[Berzerker]

Would have been better if the person used Robert Downey Jr. with black makeup on from Tropic Thunder haha.

Berz out.

[Phozy]

Haha, all this kony 2012 is too damn funny.
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[dinosaur]

This whole thing kinda reminds me of this:

10595

[drunkrussian]

http://i.imgur.com/TWHpV.png

rofl!
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[Ronin]

I'm almost sure that would be different today. Comparing the US army during the Vietnam War and today, that shit was the stone age.

But given what we know about the war in the Middle East, the Americans have far superior resources and still lose personel every day.

Kony's army is about 200 people according to the Globe and Mail. They'd get wiped out by Seal Team 6 overnight.

[ruthless]

Hate to Break it to you all this KONY 2012 thing isn't gonna happen....you know why? He's in bed with the CIA. The CIA is backing the Ugandan Gov't and Kony's LRA at the same time...The Conflict allows the USA to have a "Humanitarian aid" presence in these countries so that they can hand their resources over to corporations on a Silver Platter! you're telling me 100 soldiers with sophisticated technology can't find one lil hoodrat hiding in a tree?!? STFU! Its funny how this Kony issue becomes Viral at a time when Obama needs to rally support that hes doing "good"...


This KONY 2012 Campaign seems to be Gov't backed in the first place. This Video seems to focus more on Promoting KONY and making him known than promoting the charity itself!! The Gov't has graduated to using Social Media as a propaganda tool. All this is video is doing is Brainwashing and Rallying support in order to justify an American presence in Africa's resourceful nations.

Honestly, that's what I call a cool story bro. Such a riveting tale, I honestly copy and pasted it to word, saved on my hard drive, backed it up on a jump drive, drove to the bank, put the jump drive in the safe deposit box, and will leave it there until my kids turn about 12 (when they can actually state their age, and ask what it is I'm showing them), when I will pick it up, put it in an old USB drive reader and relay this cool story to them and tell them, "kids, this is what a cool story should look and sound like...not like the stories your generation tells."

[cressydrift]

Ask the US soldiers how easy it was to fight Guerrillas in Vietnam. They had air force, massively advanced technology, and everything.

Not to mention Afghanistan.

[pinn3r]

manipulating the facts ...

Kony 2012 World's Biggest Scam in History - YouTube

The Alarming TRUTH about Kony 2012 (Re-uploaded) - YouTube

[Eastwood]

That's a bold statement haha I'm a Croat n was stuck in war there between 91 n 95... We ain't fukin happy that the fukin yankees came in our country and tried to dictate our war which way it should go... Fuk states and their shit... They should stop tryi g to get involved in everybodies bizz. Fuk e
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History is written by the winners, but I was under the presumption that if USA didn't help, Bosnia would have won the war and your parents, family, and yourself could have potentially been murdered.

[Mr.HappySilp]

I will go if there are hot chicks going as well......

[van_city23]

this is straight stupid. Get a hobby.

[Hondaracer]

basically posted this on my facebook

"it's a post-apocalyptic Armageddon with child soldiers smoking heroin, cross dressing cannibals, systematic rape, it's hell on earth"

Vice Guide To Liberia, and you think donating $20 for Kony is gonna help?!? LOL

The Vice Guide To Travel - Liberia - Part 1 - YouTube

[kunoman1]

I personally believe as a teenager that all the backlash KONY 2012 is getting is seriously harmful, not just to invisible children and this campaign, but just as importantly the kids in the MED's who wanted to help. I think it says a lot about the people who support this campaign by tweeting, reblogging and sharing. It says that the normal ordinary person does actually care and wants to help out the rest of the world. It seems that majority of people who support KONY 2012 are teenagers (How Teenagers Learned To Hate Joseph Kony : NPR (http://www.npr.org/2012/03/09/148305533/how-teenagers-learned-to-hate-joseph-kony)). I think even if there is something wrong with the whole campaign, the teenagers and people who support it had noble intentions, something that should be praised. For a while it seemed as if even a seemingly insignificant Western teenager had an actual influence in the World, that we had a say in justice. All this backlash is telling those very supporters and teenagers, that they CAN'T help the World, that no matter their good intentions, there is always a conspiracy or a voice that tells us why we can't or why we shouldn't make an effort because we don't understand the whole situation.

[Hondaracer]

it's a dose of reality

Kony 2012 is what the INTERNET is/has become

people so easilly fooled they frivolously expend money/time on a cause that their impact is microscopic, the problems in the world cannot be solved simply by money and good intentions

if people had general good intentions instead of jumping on a bandwagon they would be much better off donating locally or even nationally to women's shelters, food banks, etc

[Drow]

Nah op was watching sons of anarchy, just so happens in the last ep that the cia is "in bed" ( this is how they say it ) with galindo cartel.
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[rsx]

I personally believe as a teenager that all the backlash KONY 2012 is getting is seriously harmful, not just to invisible children and this campaign, but just as importantly the kids in the MED's who wanted to help. I think it says a lot about the people who support this campaign by tweeting, reblogging and sharing. It says that the normal ordinary person does actually care and wants to help out the rest of the world. It seems that majority of people who support KONY 2012 are teenagers (How Teenagers Learned To Hate Joseph Kony : NPR (http://www.npr.org/2012/03/09/148305533/how-teenagers-learned-to-hate-joseph-kony)). I think even if there is something wrong with the whole campaign, the teenagers and people who support it had noble intentions, something that should be praised. For a while it seemed as if even a seemingly insignificant Western teenager had an actual influence in the World, that we had a say in justice. All this backlash is telling those very supporters and teenagers, that they CAN'T help the World, that no matter their good intentions, there is always a conspiracy or a voice that tells us why we can't or why we shouldn't make an effort because we don't understand the whole situation.

They're not supporting shit by sharing or clicking like. I bet the majority of these mongoloids didn't even bother to read about the country, its history and geopolitical climate. The sharing is not based on good intentions it's because it's trendy, hip and cool. The scary part is how easily these people get influenced by a simple video; seeming informed, doesn't prove you're actually informed. These same people will vote for charismatic, good looking and well dressed characters without researching what they're really voting for.

[Excelsis]

Somebody Is Lying: Interview With Joseph Kony & Troops - YouTube

seems like a nice guy, lol

[Ronith]

Joaquin Phoenix in Hotel Rwanda SCENE 1 - YouTube

[shawnly1000]

Interview/followup with the boy featured in the video, Jacob Acaye

'Kony 2012' Escaped Child Soldier Supports Movie - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/kony-2012-escaped-child-soldier-supports-movie-224415100--abc-news.html)

[MG1]

Somebody Is Lying: Interview With Joseph Kony & Troops - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UewyVJTu5rU)

seems like a nice guy, lol

Propaganda in Uganda... a classic case. Shows you what humans are capable of. Will never end. History keeps repeating itself. Always someone to replace.

[Phozy]

Somebody Is Lying: Interview With Joseph Kony & Troops - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UewyVJTu5rU)

seems like a nice guy, lol

What doesn't make sense is that the same dude narrating kony2012, is interviewing this same fucking joseph kony. :fulloffuck:

"I am fighting to free the children from the Ugandan government." This guy is well spoken, he doesn't sound like a terrorist at all to me.

[kunoman1]

Interview/followup with the boy featured in the video, Jacob Acaye

'Kony 2012' Escaped Child Soldier Supports Movie - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/kony-2012-escaped-child-soldier-supports-movie-224415100--abc-news.html)

He came to visit our school last year to talk about the crisis in Uganda,

Sad touching presentation and they played the video, pretty much the same video that has just gone viral

But...At the time no one in the school really cared
Now after it went viral..everyones talking about it

Funny how that works

[lucky07]

This is what i have to say DJ KONY - Ugandan Hardstyle 2012 - YouTube

[smarv]

Uganda has substantial natural resources, including fertile soils, regular rainfall, and sizable mineral deposits of copper and cobalt. The country has largely untapped reserves of both crude oil and natural gas.

Uganda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda#Economy)

It all makes sense now.

[mmmk]

Kony 2012 Video is Misleading - YouTube

:rukidding:

[LiquidTurbo]

Uganda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda#Economy)

It all makes sense now.

Conspiracy Theorist Truther... :troll:

[nah]

He came to visit our school last year to talk about the crisis in Uganda,

Sad touching presentation and they played the video, pretty much the same video that has just gone viral

But...At the time no one in the school really cared
Now after it went viral..everyones talking about it

Funny how that works

Teenagers are sheep, always following the trends.

These guys at IC paid themselves 1% ($90k) of the total donations, which came out to almost $9 million. Now with this video and how big the bandwagon has gotten, the donations are probably pouring in.

The video has 27 million views on Youtube right now. If 1 million of those views donated $20 to that cause that's $20 million in donations. They just doubled their salary for this year if they stick to the formula of 1%.

[Death2Theft]

nt

[pastarocket]

After watching the Kony2012 video by Invisible Children, I was sick to my stomach and angry about the evil acts this dude Kony and his army are committing against children. What a sick scumbag.

Although Invisible Children isn't the perfect organization from what I hear, it is shedding some light on this warlord.

-don't really know if a military solution to take out Kony and his minions will work given that many children would be killed in the crossfire.

If only it was easy as playing Modern Warfare 3. This dude would be gone and children would be free. :rukidding:

[Berzerker]

Anyone here played Farcry before??

Berz out.

[GabAlmighty]

Nah, is it any good?

[dinosaur]

SFU’s International Studies program to award degree to anyone that watched #KONY2012 film | The Peak (http://www.the-peak.ca/2012/03/sfus-international-studies-program-to-award-degree-to-anyone-that-watched-kony2012-film/)

:troll:

[Presto]

SFU’s International Studies program to award degree to anyone that watched #KONY2012 film | The Peak (http://www.the-peak.ca/2012/03/sfus-international-studies-program-to-award-degree-to-anyone-that-watched-kony2012-film/)

Before anyone flies off on a rant, due to missed sarcasm: yes, it's fake.
Humour Colin Sharp, Fake News, KONY

[Graeme S]

A major part of this is an extensive worldwide postering campaign planned for April 20th. Presumably this is so they can target stoners, a group known largely for their ability to quickly and effectively accomplish goals.

I lol'd.
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[Ronin]

They scheduled that shit too far ahead.

No one will remember Kony 2012 by next week.

[Razor Ramon HG]

Razor Ramon HG, did you even read any of the pages?!

Read the text and must've skipped the image :accepted:

[ilovebacon]

KONY 2012 A Shocking Discovery It's All About Oil - YouTube

[ToneCapone]

No one will remember Kony 2012 by next week.

I do not see what you did there, Kony what? :derp:

[timbit]

Kony is the only warlord we need to worry about........... :pokerface:

[7seven]

:facepalm::seriously:

The mastermind behind the now-famous Kony 2012 video was arrested last night in San Diego for allegedly being drunk in public and masturbating.

Jason Russell was taken into custody by San Diego cops. In addition to allegedly masturbating, cops say he vandalized cars.

Russell, the co-founder of Kony 2012, is the father of two, and says he wants to have 9 more kids.

Russell is the co-founder of Invisible Children as well as the filmmaker of the ultra-viral video which has set records on the Internet -- with more than 80 million views.

'Kony 2012' Honcho Jason Russell Arrested for Allegedly Masturbating in Public | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/16/kony-honcho-arrested-for-allegedly-masturbating-in-public/#.T2OhhBGm-jY)

[dinosaur]

and thus ends Kony 2012.

we now resume your regular programming...

[JKam]

These guys at IC paid themselves 1% ($90k) of the total donations, which came out to almost $9 million. Now with this video and how big the bandwagon has gotten, the donations are probably pouring in.

I don't know why people are fussing over this detail. ALL non-profits take a HUGE cut of the donations. The percent that goes into operation and marketing costs and salaries can be up to 80% depending on the company.

90k for a nonprofit exec is chump change compared to guys at make a wish foundation or any large well known organization.

They get paid so much because no one wants to do this work. It's the same thing for places like the SPCA.


*didn't read the whole thread so this might have already been covered..

[rsx]

#masturbate2012

[dinosaur]

#masturbate2012

:lawl:

[The_AK]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/420620_3248243658416_1636680013_2718506_255626459_ n.jpg

[Volvoman]

video here

Jason Russell Video: 'Kony 2012' Honcho Has Naked Meltdown | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/16/jason-russell-video-naked-meltdown-kony/#.T2PE-xEgfva)

[Hondaracer]

I'd go naked and jack off in public too if I was an over night multi millionaire
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[Girl]

Come on guys, lets talk about the real problem at hand. Don't be such jerk offs, this is a real sticky situation he's gotten himself into that's being blown outta proportion.

[MindBomber]

I don't know why people are fussing over this detail. ALL non-profits take a HUGE cut of the donations. The percent that goes into operation and marketing costs and salaries can be up to 80% depending on the company.

90k for a nonprofit exec is chump change compared to guys at make a wish foundation or any large well known organization.

They get paid so much because no one wants to do this work. It's the same thing for places like the SPCA.


*didn't read the whole thread so this might have already been covered..

It has already been covered. Ben Keesy pays himself and other members of his organization salaries many times higher than the industry averages. If you read back through the thread, you'll see that the directors/editors of the film are being paid double the industry average wages.

Working based on percentages,
Red Cross; CEO salary, $995,718; Percent of total expenses, 0.02%.
Invisible Children; CEO salary, $88,241; Percent of total expenses, 0.99%.

I also disagree that many people do not want to do this work, many people do, but they choose not to because they would normally need to accept very low wages to do so on a full time basis.

[MindBomber]

Come on guys, lets talk about the real problem at hand. Don't be such jerk offs, this is a real sticky situation he's gotten himself into that's being blown outta proportion.

:lawl:

I'd go naked and jack off in public too if I was an over night multi millionaire
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Given this quote... I'm gonna say he was insane prior to the success of Kony2012

"I am from San Diego California with an upbringing in musical theater. I am going to help end the longest running war in Africa, get Joseph Kony arrested & redefine international justice. Then I am going to direct a Hollywood musical. Then I am going to study theology & literature in Oxford, England, and then move to New York to start “The Academy” – which will be a school where the best creative young minds in the world attend...and [if] Bono had a baby, I would be that baby."

[pinn3r]

:facepalm::seriously:



'Kony 2012' Honcho Jason Russell Arrested for Allegedly Masturbating in Public | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/16/kony-honcho-arrested-for-allegedly-masturbating-in-public/#.T2OhhBGm-jY)

:lawl::joy:

Jason Russell Arrested Invisible Children 'Kony 2012' Creator and Founder - YouTube

[lgman]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/417318_10150636252807572_516202571_9320795_1344251 478_n.jpg

[pinn3r]

he was only freeing his own invisible children






:joy:

[Presto]

I like that this is a condition brought on by "extreme exhaustion and dehydration." This is why at the end of the Boston Marathon, many of the runners drop their shorts and jerk off in victory.

[Death2Theft]

Same as no one remembering WMD which is the same thing they are trying to do with Africa. By creating a boogeyman who they could never find and use as an excuse to ravage country after country.
They scheduled that shit too far ahead.

No one will remember Kony 2012 by next week.

[Nightwalker]

No one chooses to have a psychotic break.

The vid really made me LOL though.

[dinosaur]

Another video....closer-up to the action.

Semi-NSFW (although everything is blurred). You can hear him ranting:

New Jason Russell Video -- The UP-CLOSE Naked Meltdown | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/18/jason-russell-video-naked-meltdown-kony/)

[LiquidTurbo]

Charlie Brooker Destroys Kony 2012 / Invisible Children - YouTube

[rsx]

and for the coup de grace

Invisible Children Global Night Commute Musical.mp4 - YouTube

[Domani]

New Jason Russell Video -- UP-CLOSE Naked Meltdown of 'Kony 2012' Mastermind | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/18/jason-russell-video-naked-meltdown-kony/?adid=hero1#.T2dmasz8Mfo)

...........

[JKam]

It has already been covered. Ben Keesy pays himself and other members of his organization salaries many times higher than the industry averages. If you read back through the thread, you'll see that the directors/editors of the film are being paid double the industry average wages.

Working based on percentages,
Red Cross; CEO salary, $995,718; Percent of total expenses, 0.02%.
Invisible Children; CEO salary, $88,241; Percent of total expenses, 0.99%.

I also disagree that many people do not want to do this work, many people do, but they choose not to because they would normally need to accept very low wages to do so on a full time basis.

Didn't know about the directors/editors but you can't deny the success of their video.

As for the percentages.. Who cares what the percentage is? People are pissed that he's making $90,000. Not that it's almost 1% of the total expenses. They are all upset, thinking more of that money should be put towards the cause. If people knew how much the Red Cross CEO's salary was there would be a huge outrage over it.

I understand that doing non-profit work is actually a lot of work so I'm not complaining. I was saying I don't understand why people are making a big fuss about the salary when its part of running a business.

You also just proved my point. Lots of people WANT to but won't unless they get paid above average wages (because it really is more work/stressful). I think we're on the same page, you might have misinterpreted my original post..

[Nightwalker]

.

[i-VTEC]

New Jason Russell Video -- UP-CLOSE Naked Meltdown -- Kony 2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TjdH2LDH5LM#)!

[Everymans]

funny how this was a hot topic less then a month ago and all the hype died down from 99% of the people involved. Glad I ignored it... Until now. durp

[7seven]

funny how this was a hot topic less then a month ago and all the hype died down from 99% of the people involved. Glad I ignored it... Until now. durp

Because people are finally realizing Invisible Children and the idiots that run it are nothing but douchebags and scam artists. Take it from someone who has been on the ground as a private security contractor providing actual help to locals, these guys do virtually nothing for the continent of Africa, just lining their own pockets.

Morons

Kony 2012 Exec -- Joking at Haiti's Expense - YouTube

[BaoTurbo]

Is Jason Russell a homosexual? Cuz I swear it was strutting in that video

[murd0c]

I'm proud to say I haven't seen a single Kony video yet :D

[Drizzt Do'Urden]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TjdH2LDH5LM#!

Dude was clearly high as a mother and figured it was a good idea to finally come out of the closet. Look at the Oh-no-you-din't hand wave with perfect.

You can't tell me he ain't gay. You can't.

[Hondaracer]

Because people are finally realizing Invisible Children and the idiots that run it are nothing but douchebags and scam artists. Take it from someone who has been on the ground as a private security contractor providing actual help to locals, these guys do virtually nothing for the continent of Africa, just lining their own pockets.

Morons

Kony 2012 Exec -- Joking at Haiti's Expense - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNVfipqdwnM)

A good family friends family has been managing a mill in the Congo for the last 6 years, the whole family has been there numerous times and my buddies have pictures in the -slums- there that national geographic doesn't have

People have no idea what Africa is

[Presto]

Here's the latest IC video. It addresses criticism from the original Kony 2012 video:
KONY 2012: Part II - Beyond Famous - YouTube

It also means another round of unfriending in Facebook :D

[Drow]

I wish they addressed the public masturbation

[rsx]

ratings and comments disabled ^ lol

[nah]

And how many millions will they claimed they spent in making this video?

It'll be interesting to see their financials next year.

[Ronin]

Watched 2 minutes, already couldnt handle the self-righteous activist hipster bullshit.

[Phozy]

Nobody gives a shit about kony anymore, those fucking sheeps just ate that shit up..
U.S always gotta have a villian, cant stop evil with posters and tshirts

[bigG]

Sam Childers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Childers)

[Presto]

Today is supposed to be the "Cover the Night" event. Various Kony 2012 FB pages are quiet. If Vancouver is going to do it, there will be 7 people there, and they won't even be the organizers, because they realized the bullshit.

:fuckthatshit:

[surreyjack604]

im glad this shit failed the US needs to find a new way to invade innocent countries and steal their resources. no more bullshit propaganda.

[lgman]

i got my kit already heading to 420 to spread the invisible children. :nyan:

http://i.imgur.com/GfqFEl.jpg

imgur: the simple image sharer (http://imgur.com/35zez)

imgur: the simple image sharer (http://imgur.com/sN0Xd)

[Jegz]

PHONY 2012

[BossFrancis]

Lets go cover the city :troll:

[Phozy]

I wonder whos actually doing it.. haha, i bet you im going to see this somewhere along the skytrain tomorrow..

[LiquidTurbo]

I wonder whos actually doing it..

Idiots.

[StylinRed]

Cover the Night fizzles in Vancouver - News1130 (http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/354096--cover-the-night-fizzles-in-vancouver)

Cover the Night fizzles in Vancouver
It was supposed to be the culmination of action against Ugandan warlord Joseph Kony

VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - It was a YouTube video that has been seen by some 80 million people around the world, and was to come to a head in a night of action.

"All of these efforts will culminate on one day: April 20, when we 'cover the night.' This is the day we will meet at sundown and blanket every street in every city," says the Kony 2012 video which went viral soon after it was posted in early March.

But it seems the event called Cover the City, meant to draw attention to Ugandan warload Joseph Kony, was a non-event, at least in downtown Vancouver.

The Vancouver Facebook page tells its 21,000 members that big groups should gather at the Art Gallery or at the Olympic cauldron.

But Friday night, no Cover the Night campaigners could be spotted in either location, and just a handful of posters had been pasted in the downtown core.

Students at SFU and UBC were to launch their own campaigns.

It remains to be seen if there were any large turnouts in other Canadian cities. In Hamilton only about 20 people showed up and there has been no major Twitter buzz about the event elsewhere.

The movement has encountered controversy in the States over its charity, Invisible Children, and the conduct of filmmaker Jason Russell.

And Vancouver's downtown was already occupied by marijuana buffs Friday night. As one tweet says, 'I was gonna stop Kony, but then I got high.'

[surreyjack604]

doube post

[Presto]

Stop Kony 2012: SEATTLE

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/12/66/32/2844294/3/628x471.jpg
Looks like a boyfriend was dragged along. Hope he's getting a BJ and steak for this.
:lawl:

[Verdasco]

Lol at the I was gonna do it but I got high LOL

[Phozy]

LOL, "I was going to stop kony, but then I got high" :lol:

Andd that shows a lot. If they still go on ahead and go to uganda, then its proven its for a bullshit cause, if its not been proven already.

[stewie]

some fag put those stupid posters all the way up my fucking street.....

[Graeme S]

There was a poster for Kony at the eastbound park royal bus loop.

But then, there was also a poster saying that smart meters cause cancer, kill bees and will destroy kids' minds.




Silly white people :pokerface:

[1990TSI]

no one showed up because all the kids were saved from the video being posted

[JSALES]

I totally forgot about this Kony 2012 thing and when I was downtown this morning, all I saw was one Kony 2012 sticker on a pole haha

[Ezio Auditore]

yeah nobody gave a fuck, as expected.

[JSALES]

I feel bad for my coworker because she actually bought the kit :lol

[Verdasco]

I feel bad for my coworker because she actually bought the kit :lol

you feel bad for people getting scammed? I don't. I pity them :lawl:

[nlo]

I saw one poster on a light pole by the bubbleworld on kingsway. All i said was " Wtf , people are actually doing this?" then laughed and walked away

[Everymans]

saw a bunch of posters on a pole near joyce skytrain. Scratched out the Kony part and Wrote my name instead. Feels good man.

[filth]

I lold when some dumbasses on facebook said "im gonna spread this shit everywhere!" after watching the video.

[JSALES]

from twitter LOL

"21,000 people RSVP'd yes to attend the Kony event in Vancouver, 17 showed up. not 17,000- 17 people! LOL"