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NEED OPINIONS FOR THE MODS FOR MY Z!
MADEINJAPAN
03-06-2012, 11:05 PM
Hey Guys,
I currently own a 2003 350z Touring and am planning on giving it a bit of a make-over for the upcoming summer. (Exterior mods for now, engine mods will follow shortly) (Over 6 months in planning.)
I'm planning on doing something a little different and am worries about the flow of the entire car.
So I decided to ask the nice people on the 350z forums for some help.
Any opinions, critiques and suggestions are welcome. (Don't worry I wont get offended)
I'm pretty new to the scene so I apologize ahead of time if I have trouble understanding some technical aspects of the mods.
Without further ado lets get started:
The car is going to be wrapped in matte white by myself and a few friends so I tried my best to find example pictures of white 350z.
Front bumper:
Ing+1 N spec Front Bumper
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff495/shyun1250/350z%20Mods/Ings1frontbumper2.jpg
Rear bumper:
A modified amuse Z34 bumper to fit on my Z
(I don't think anyone in my area has done this yet)
Looks much much nicer in real life.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff495/shyun1250/350z%20Mods/Amuse370zto350z.jpg
Spoiler:
JKS Custom Spoiler
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff495/shyun1250/350z%20Mods/JKSspoiler.jpg
Side Skirts:
Either Greddy or JP Vizage type A (Opinions please!)
Greddy
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff495/shyun1250/350z%20Mods/GreddySideskirt.jpg
JP Vizage
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff495/shyun1250/350z%20Mods/JPVizagesideskirt.jpg
Wheels (If possible...)
Otherwise for the time being, stock will be painted black... fml
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff495/shyun1250/350z%20Mods/NinjaNjo8.jpg
In reality I really wanted a similar bumper to the Amuse Z34 rear as I liked the spoiler + rear bumper combo very much. However, I know how shitty the visibility is in the rear view and I was afraid I wouldn't be able to see anything. Any thoughts? Has anyone done this to their Z?
Like so:
Amuse Z34 Vestito Rear bumper/spoiler combo.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff495/shyun1250/350z%20Mods/amuse_370z_vestito_3.jpg
Extra:
Headlight housing: baked and housing interior will be blacked out with hid conversion (8K) and smd angel lights.
Tail lights: very slight tint to change to more of a crimson. (will have 2006 LED tail lights if possible.)
Rear view tint (20 ~ 35%?) and emblems will be changes to Fairlady Z as well as Nissan emblems to Z.
For Additional pics of examples please go to:
http://photobucket.com/Harro_350z
MADEINJAPAN
03-06-2012, 11:30 PM
Here's a photo bombed picture of the amuse Z34 bumper with a similar spoiler on a 350z.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff495/shyun1250/350z%20Mods/Amuse370zto350zrear.jpg
I like this
http://www.tuningnews.net/gallery/veilside-nissan-350z/veilside-nissan-350z-10.jpg
Or else mod it to however you would like it and not other people's opinion.
I'd get some nice wheels before a body kit if I were you just sayin'
http://www.canibeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/4205772260_3f9484ca23_b.jpg
http://www.canibeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/350z1.jpg
http://www.canibeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/350z3.jpg
http://www.canibeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/350z2.jpg
http://www.canibeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/350z4.jpg
MADEINJAPAN
03-07-2012, 12:37 AM
haha. yeah didn't dig the wide body and didn't want to copy DK in tokyo drift lol. =P
MADEINJAPAN
03-07-2012, 12:38 AM
@swfk:
Any suggestions?
Limitless
03-07-2012, 12:59 AM
I'd get some nice wheels before a body kit if I were you just sayin'
Agreed, I'd get some wheels and coils before thinking about a kit. A 350z with a nice stance without a lip kit would look better than a 350z with a lip kit on stock suspension imo. I like the spoiler lip/custom spoiler thing you posted though, looks a lot cleaner than the huge spoiler at the end of your post
Firmware
03-07-2012, 01:29 AM
Dat amuse kit
604nguyen
03-07-2012, 06:38 AM
vinyl wrapping is not as easy as it looks....i helped my brother do the roof of his 350z....never again.......
personally, i think all bodykits ruin the flow of the z,
just sayin
@swfk:
Any suggestions?
Depends on your budget right? Lip or no lip? How aggressive are you willing to go? Flip through some car blogs or Z forums lol
ilvtofu
03-07-2012, 07:22 AM
What's your budget/time frame?
Do you plan on tracking the car whatsoever?
Your car would look pretty messy with all these different bodykits etc. And even worse if you don't have plans for lowering it.
Spending that kind of money on bodykits just seems like overkill to me and as time goes on I think you'll get tired of the look. I would personally just go with some nismo (or nismo replica? if there's such thing) lips/spoiler.
The Veilside Z33 looked pretty sick back in the day but looking back at it now the scene has clearly moved away from that and the car looks dated and dare I say it, ricey. The Z33 has such beautiful and clean curves that I wouldn't mess with it if I were you.
ThatKoukiKid
03-07-2012, 09:16 AM
shouldn't your car be modded based on your personal style and not influenced by others? The parts you put on your Z should be what you want and not because others said it would look sick. idk that's how i see things.
lowside67
03-07-2012, 09:55 AM
You are on the track to create a hideous abortion of a 350Z featuring overpriced mix-matched ricer parts. It will look bad even with all the money in the world, but if you can't afford to then lower it and put decent wheels/tires on it, it is going to look fully ridiculous, like "hall of shame" bad. The 350Z is naturally a great looking car and a tasteful set of performance wheels/tires and a capable suspension make it look even better - don't screw that up!
Sorry to be harsh, but that's the reality. And stop yelling in thread titles.
Mark
MADEINJAPAN
03-07-2012, 10:25 AM
vinyl wrapping is not as easy as it looks....i helped my brother do the roof of his 350z....never again.......
personally, i think all bodykits ruin the flow of the z,
just sayin
A buddy of mine used to own a wrapping company and he said he can help me out. So the wrapping itself shouldn't be too much of a problem.
MADEINJAPAN
03-07-2012, 10:33 AM
Depends on your budget right? Lip or no lip? How aggressive are you willing to go? Flip through some car blogs or Z forums lol
The whole thing was supposed to be done under $2500. vinyl, kit, and everything else with whatever money left over for wheels. and pretty aggressive, more or less to stand out. no lip I think I would like to keep the Ings+1 front bumper, if it comes down to it, I'd just stick to just getting the full ings+1 kit itself.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff495/shyun1250/350z%20Mods/Ings1kit.jpg
MADEINJAPAN
03-07-2012, 10:34 AM
shouldn't your car be modded based on your personal style and not influenced by others? The parts you put on your Z should be what you want and not because others said it would look sick. idk that's how i see things.
Yeah your right. but I've been having trouble trying to make something to fit the amuse. Its something that completely new and I guess different that I think that it always ends up looking awkward.
MADEINJAPAN
03-07-2012, 10:41 AM
What's your budget/time frame?
Do you plan on tracking the car whatsoever?
Your car would look pretty messy with all these different bodykits etc. And even worse if you don't have plans for lowering it.
Spending that kind of money on bodykits just seems like overkill to me and as time goes on I think you'll get tired of the look. I would personally just go with some nismo (or nismo replica? if there's such thing) lips/spoiler.
The Veilside Z33 looked pretty sick back in the day but looking back at it now the scene has clearly moved away from that and the car looks dated and dare I say it, ricey. The Z33 has such beautiful and clean curves that I wouldn't mess with it if I were you.
Just a nubs perspective but as low as the car is, adding body kit which will make the Z look even lower and lowering the car on top of that... I wouldn't be able to drive at all :P. On stock the car is terrible when it comes to speed bumps.
On another notes on the veilside and nismo. The problem I mainly had with those two kits is that when I browsed on the 350z forums, I found that they were incredible overplayed. So I wanted to take the route of a few other modders who pieced the best parts from certain kits and made their own. I really like the ings but finding it super hard to pair with the amuse vestito.
Have you seen the new Z34 veilside yet? looks sick.
MADEINJAPAN
03-07-2012, 10:48 AM
You are on the track to create a hideous abortion of a 350Z featuring overpriced mix-matched ricer parts. It will look bad even with all the money in the world, but if you can't afford to then lower it and put decent wheels/tires on it, it is going to look fully ridiculous, like "hall of shame" bad. The 350Z is naturally a great looking car and a tasteful set of performance wheels/tires and a capable suspension make it look even better - don't screw that up!
Sorry to be harsh, but that's the reality. And stop yelling in thread titles.
Mark
No worries at all. The reason I posted this is to get honest opinions. sorry about the caps first forum post ever. :P What do you think about just sticking to the Ings+1 kit? Getting wheels are definitely in the books for the near future but unfortunately lowering it might have to wait. Opinions on the wheels I posted? I know I don't like the brand but, I really just went with looks. I didn't want to go with the rays wheels that everyone else on the Z forums did because well, everyone has them. The whole selection was pretty much based on looks and not on stance etc. Still need someone to fill me in on that kind of stuff.... =/
monkeywrench
03-07-2012, 10:53 AM
You should figure out what OEM and aftermarket parts are made of first before you commence this blasphemy.
1exotic
03-07-2012, 10:53 AM
The whole thing was supposed to be done under $2500. vinyl, kit, and everything else with whatever money left over for wheels. and pretty aggressive, more or less to stand out. no lip I think I would like to keep the Ings+1 front bumper, if it comes down to it, I'd just stick to just getting the full ings+1 kit itself.
Um wat.
Proper tires and decent rims are going to cost that much alone.
Unless you buy some random ebay rims and stretch a 215 tire on it.
Check my350z.com for used ones since lots of people are selling there.
Nismo 1234
03-07-2012, 11:09 AM
i would stick to ings+1 full kit or front and side plus top secret diffuser :)
but 2500 including kit, vinyl, is hard.. im guessing the kit is a replica kit. which might fit good but chances are it needs some work to fit right.
you might end up spending a lot more than 2500 just to make it fit right if you take it to a shop
MADEINJAPAN
03-07-2012, 11:11 AM
You should figure out what OEM and aftermarket parts are made of first before you commence this blasphemy.
Just wondering how that would influence my decision and make it not blasphemy?
My understanding is the whole kit is going to be made from fiberglass. I may try poly as I heard its easier to manipulate. and I tried asking what oem parts were made from but didn't really get an informed response. =/
MADEINJAPAN
03-07-2012, 11:14 AM
i would stick to ings+1 full kit or front and side plus top secret diffuser :)
but 2500 including kit, vinyl, is hard.. im guessing the kit is a replica kit. which might fit good but chances are it needs some work to fit right.
you might end up spending a lot more than 2500 just to make it fit right if you take it to a shop
Thank you for your response :) yeah its a replica coming from bausauto and strafe automotive. They're both the "craze" on the Z forums and apparently the fitment itself is close to spot on. I'll look into the top secret diffuser but not digging the greddy sides? They were the top recommended ones on a Z motoring thread lol.
MADEINJAPAN
03-07-2012, 11:15 AM
^ another option was to substitute the Amuse Vestito with the Chargespeed rear with the cf center.
06TLer
03-07-2012, 11:25 AM
It's your car, and you're on a tight budget, so do whatever that makes you happy. You are the one driving and getting in and out of your car anyways, so build something that you will actually feel excited when you get up every morning for your daily commute.
Sure sure, it may end up looking something like this, and we'll all have a good laugh at it.
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/267677_10150699876900632_550055631_19360790_732900 5_n.jpg
But that hasn't stopped them, so it shouldn't stop you.
IMO, I agree with everyone else. This forum appreciates Stance > Rice, so the general opinion will be to go for suspension + wheels. Since you can't get the best of both worlds, then choose the one that holds higher value to you personally.
Remember to post pics of the final outcome!!
Nismo 1234
03-07-2012, 11:36 AM
Thank you for your response :) yeah its a replica coming from bausauto and strafe automotive. They're both the "craze" on the Z forums and apparently the fitment itself is close to spot on. I'll look into the top secret diffuser but not digging the greddy sides? They were the top recommended ones on a Z motoring thread lol.
I like ings side over greddy. But greddy is nice too.
From experience. Even if everyone say it's good, you might get unlucky. I have amuse front and side on my 370z. EveryOne on 370z forum said the replica fitment is spot on. About 1/10 buyers had slight fitment problem. I was that 1/10... So it depends on luck. Btw amuse vestito for 370z side skirt hangs really low. I'm not sure if it's same for 350z
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604nguyen
03-07-2012, 11:37 AM
.....Remember to post pics of the final outcome!!
http://i41.tinypic.com/1588exl.jpg
And I have ings front and side for sale if interested
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Something tells me the plastic bits are gonna cost a lot more than 2500 said and done. Fitment is probably going to be questionable. Will look really, really bad with stock wheels and stance as well.
If it was my car, I'd change up the stance and wheels and go for an OEM+ look. Simple lip spoiler, etc. BTW IMO that Amuse bumper looks terrible on the 350Z. Fits the lines of the 370Z a lot better, the way it was meant to be.
vitaminG
03-07-2012, 03:09 PM
you should talk to this guy Arash, he had some great design ideas for Z cars
http://image.modified.com/f/29582469/modp_0909_09_o+amuse_nissan_380rs_superleggera+fro nt_side_view.jpg
+
http://cornerbalance.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/20090105214303.jpg
minus that rear wing
The whole thing was supposed to be done under $2500. vinyl, kit, and everything else with whatever money left over for wheels. and pretty aggressive, more or less to stand out. no lip I think I would like to keep the Ings+1 front bumper, if it comes down to it, I'd just stick to just getting the full ings+1 kit itself.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff495/shyun1250/350z%20Mods/Ings1kit.jpg
It's been mentioned but I'll say it again lol you should spend that $2500 on a nice set of wheels plus tires. Add a little to get some coils.
Don't do a bodykit yet!!!
MADEINJAPAN
03-07-2012, 11:48 PM
It's your car, and you're on a tight budget, so do whatever that makes you happy. You are the one driving and getting in and out of your car anyways, so build something that you will actually feel excited when you get up every morning for your daily commute.
Sure sure, it may end up looking something like this, and we'll all have a good laugh at it.
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/267677_10150699876900632_550055631_19360790_732900 5_n.jpg
But that hasn't stopped them, so it shouldn't stop you.
IMO, I agree with everyone else. This forum appreciates Stance > Rice, so the general opinion will be to go for suspension + wheels. Since you can't get the best of both worlds, then choose the one that holds higher value to you personally.
Remember to post pics of the final outcome!!
I think from this whole thread I kinda came to the realization that I'm more rice than stance lol. but your absolutely right going for both would be impossible with my current budget. I've always liked the idea of a nice set of wheels but even now I would never want to lower my car. The Z is way to low to start with already imo. I've always thought of getting bigger wheels cuz I thought it would raise the car =P. (idk if it actually does... haha)
I think from this whole thread I kinda came to the realization that I'm more rice than stance lol. but your absolutely right going for both would be impossible with my current budget. I've always liked the idea of a nice set of wheels but even now I would never want to lower my car. The Z is way to low to start with already imo. I've always thought of getting bigger wheels cuz I thought it would raise the car =P. (idk if it actually does... haha)
bigger wheels and lower profile tire = same size as stock.
anyway, do what you want with your car :)
First thing i did for my Z was to get a nice set of volks! And the coil andddddddd then did supporting mod.. I have full set of bodykit sitting in my garage, and those are the last thing that will go on. meh
SpuGen
03-07-2012, 11:50 PM
I think you should make this exact same thread on Zilvia.net
MADEINJAPAN
03-07-2012, 11:51 PM
I like ings side over greddy. But greddy is nice too.
From experience. Even if everyone say it's good, you might get unlucky. I have amuse front and side on my 370z. EveryOne on 370z forum said the replica fitment is spot on. About 1/10 buyers had slight fitment problem. I was that 1/10... So it depends on luck. Btw amuse vestito for 370z side skirt hangs really low. I'm not sure if it's same for 350z
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I guess it would be weird if you were to get pieces from different kits to find that some are much lower than others... I think the vestito is too different to pair with anyways atm. And yeah I get what you mean about fitment b/c it is after market replica. I heard its esp bad for bigger higher volume companies that make replicas b/c they just keep using the same mold to the point where the fitment is so terrible that you have to saw off most of it and just pretty much make the piece yourself.
I guess it would be weird if you were to get pieces from different kits to find that some are much lower than others... I think the vestito is too different to pair with anyways atm. And yeah I get what you mean about fitment b/c it is after market replica. I heard its esp bad for bigger higher volume companies that make replicas b/c they just keep using the same mold to the point where the fitment is so terrible that you have to saw off most of it and just pretty much make the piece yourself.
one of the best combo i've seen for Z with mix-matched bodyparts are:
Nismo v2 front
Side
Chargespeed rear.
OR
ING front
ING side
Chargespeed rear.
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn169/AustinA02/My%20Car%20350Z/P1010042.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn169/AustinA02/My%20Car%20350Z/P1010044.jpg
MADEINJAPAN
03-08-2012, 12:27 AM
Something tells me the plastic bits are gonna cost a lot more than 2500 said and done. Fitment is probably going to be questionable. Will look really, really bad with stock wheels and stance as well.
If it was my car, I'd change up the stance and wheels and go for an OEM+ look. Simple lip spoiler, etc. BTW IMO that Amuse bumper looks terrible on the 350Z. Fits the lines of the 370Z a lot better, the way it was meant to be.
Yeah thanks for the input. I think the idea of doing a amuse Z34 conversion to a Z33 wouldn't be the greatest. right now I negotiated a full ing+1 kit with shipping at about $1000. hopefully I can find some nice used wheels and figure out what I should do about stance,
MADEINJAPAN
03-08-2012, 12:29 AM
http://image.modified.com/f/29582469/modp_0909_09_o+amuse_nissan_380rs_superleggera+fro nt_side_view.jpg
+
http://cornerbalance.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/20090105214303.jpg
minus that rear wing
Yeah saw those haha. I also heard that the kit itself is like one of the most expensive for 350z. like $10,000 or something. looks crazy though.
I really dig the fenders but I heard that a lot of cutting was involved so not so sure haha.
MADEINJAPAN
03-08-2012, 12:31 AM
you should talk to this guy Arash, he had some great design ideas for Z cars
lol nah
MADEINJAPAN
03-08-2012, 12:32 AM
I think you should make this exact same thread on Zilvia.net
Same as all the other Z forums? or different?
MADEINJAPAN
03-08-2012, 12:34 AM
one of the best combo i've seen for Z with mix-matched bodyparts are:
Nismo v2 front
Side
Chargespeed rear.
OR
ING front
ING side
Chargespeed rear.
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn169/AustinA02/My%20Car%20350Z/P1010042.jpg
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn169/AustinA02/My%20Car%20350Z/P1010044.jpg
bigger wheels and lower profile tire = same size as stock.
anyway, do what you want with your car :)
First thing i did for my Z was to get a nice set of volks! And the coil andddddddd then did supporting mod.. I have full set of bodykit sitting in my garage, and those are the last thing that will go on. meh
Lol yeah considering the ing+1 + chargespeed combo actually. only problem is that the chargespeed with the cf inserts are like $800+. I saw your listing before btw. does your chargespeed have the CF? and if so how easy are the repairs?
My buddy said that if I got said larger wheels + tires and then lowered it, the result wouldn't be too different b/c it would just cover the gaps... but the height wouldnt be as affected? idk... lol I may have misunderstood.
MADEINJAPAN
03-08-2012, 12:42 AM
UPDATE:
First off thanks for all the responses guys, didn't really expect to get this much.
I think I will have to spend more time on research in regards to stance/wheels.
Unfortunately idk if i'll be able to completely rule out a kit b/c the car is getting wrapped and Z's look really bad oem with matte. (idk if someone posted a spotted at sfu on it but yeah.) Another thing was that the current body is a little scratched up and am wanting to change the colour.
If you have any recommendations for wheels/coils please lemme know.
Currently the only thing I had planned were the wheels on the OP and I based it more on looks than anything else and didn't really take into account all the factors. (didn't know... =/)
Still very interested in opinions and thanks again. :nyan:
SpuGen
03-08-2012, 01:02 AM
Same as all the other Z forums? or different?
You'll see. :)
Just remember to link us to the thread after you make it. :)
Not saying that you shouldn't get a bodykit ever in the duration of owning the car lol. Just that if you get a kit first and you sit on stock wheels and stock height, the car will look very weird and unfinished. Also consider that bodykit low and actually lowering the car has huge differences. Bodykit low just looks like you're filling up gaps with plastic :fuckthatshit:
jpark
03-08-2012, 08:04 AM
i like that ing+1 n spec front bumper
fT-z33wor had it on his old car i believe, it looked bauss
MADEINJAPAN
03-08-2012, 10:15 AM
Not saying that you shouldn't get a bodykit ever in the duration of owning the car lol. Just that if you get a kit first and you sit on stock wheels and stock height, the car will look very weird and unfinished. Also consider that bodykit low and actually lowering the car has huge differences. Bodykit low just looks like you're filling up gaps with plastic :fuckthatshit:
mhm I hear you. I'm looking into suspension now but, would you go for a full out new suspension or just lowering springs. Going full out seems like its going to cost about 3k before the install.... =/ And I need some input on notable brands for lowering springs/suspension and wheels. thanks again.
MADEINJAPAN
03-08-2012, 10:16 AM
i like that ing+1 n spec front bumper
fT-z33wor had it on his old car i believe, it looked bauss
Lol yeah its sick. I was also looking into the chargespeed front. I've never digged the inserts for some reason but I saw a picture of a this guy who did the mismatched thing that I wanted to and took out the inserts. looked sickkk. I'll try and find the pic and hopefully I can show you.
Gh0stRider
03-08-2012, 10:26 AM
http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss105/bluguy456/553934c9.jpg
MADEINJAPAN
03-08-2012, 10:32 AM
i like that ing+1 n spec front bumper
fT-z33wor had it on his old car i believe, it looked bauss
Pic added:
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff495/shyun1250/Chargespeedfrontwoinserts350z.jpg
During my search also found a sick chargespeed rear. fitments kinda off but added anyways. lol
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff495/shyun1250/Chargespeedrear350z.jpg
MADEINJAPAN
03-08-2012, 10:33 AM
http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss105/bluguy456/553934c9.jpg
That thing is lowww..
Gh0stRider
03-08-2012, 10:47 AM
damn...looking at these pics
make me miss my Z :(
MADEINJAPAN
03-08-2012, 10:52 AM
damn...looking at these pics
make me miss my Z :(
Haha. You'd be surprised how much I hear that in the Z forums.
Quick questions: How much are cars generally lowered.
I was just looking through Z motoring when doing research on lowering springs and they said that if you lower 1" or more then the Z will start to have alignment issues and will need a few extra parts...
Gh0stRider
03-08-2012, 10:55 AM
depends on the springs/coilovers.
can go from 1"-2+"
falcon
03-08-2012, 03:09 PM
When you have to say "looks much nicer in real life' you know it's going to be a fail.
TRDood
03-08-2012, 03:34 PM
The whole thing was supposed to be done under $2500. vinyl, kit, and everything ...
:heckno:
Multiply that by 10x if you want it done right. $2500 can only afford you a set of properly fitted wheels.
Did not read the thread after this post. :lawl:
MADEINJAPAN
03-08-2012, 04:40 PM
When you have to say "looks much nicer in real life' you know it's going to be a fail.
Well I would say yes and no. Sure if it really looks nice it should also look good in pictures as well. sound argument.
However, I wasn't too keen on the bumper either until I saw it Richmond and well all I can say is. Now I am a fan of the Amuse Vestito.
MADEINJAPAN
03-08-2012, 04:48 PM
depends on the springs/coilovers.
can go from 1"-2+"
mhm I assumed as much. but the guys at Zmotoring were saying that most of the lowering springs for Z are pretty standard to under 1" with the average of .8". Apparently it was because of alignment issues that the Z had if anyone went 1 or over. I heard Nissan used a brand new design for its suspension system when making the Z and ended with the company getting 14 patents for it. Idk if that has something to do with affecting alignment but in either case the alignment issue has led to some people on the Z forums to either go less than 1 or not lower the Z altogether. I heard you have to buy a few things to solve the alignment issue. imo I don't think its worth dishing out a few hundred dollars for a car thats .8 lower...
MADEINJAPAN
03-08-2012, 04:50 PM
:heckno:
Multiply that by 10x if you want it done right. $2500 can only afford you a set of properly fitted wheels.
Did not read the thread after this post. :lawl:
Lol spending 25k on a 13k car??
But yeah I know your probably right... haha
bloodline129
03-08-2012, 04:52 PM
Cost me 2k just for the system hahahah
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insomniac
03-08-2012, 05:11 PM
this post is going to be harsh but it looks like youre not really listening to what people are posting and is really determined to rice out your car with random bits and pieces.
if you want the kit to be fitted nicely it will cost $$$. dont forget to factor in the cost of paint. that will run you way over $2500 and you wont have money left over for wheels by then. oh yeah vinyl will cost you $800+.
its gonna look like crap without nice wheels/stance
waiting for G-Spec to chime in on this.
coils + nice wheels + lip will do you good.
below are pics of some nice and clean examples of what i mean. a bit too low though.
keep it clean cause what you want is pretty messy. but by all means, mod it to however you like, its your car bro
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4081/4776779930_ddbbae2976.jpg
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcf4jiSwdu1qck2vmo1_500.jpg
http://dudesphotography.smugmug.com/photos/578419926_77EYf-XL.jpg
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Jacco%20Willemsen/Random%20Shots/350Z%20DPE.jpg
MADEINJAPAN
03-08-2012, 05:30 PM
this post is going to be harsh but it looks like youre not really listening to what people are posting and is really determined to rice out your car with random bits and pieces.
if you want the kit to be fitted nicely it will cost $$$. dont forget to factor in the cost of paint. that will run you way over $2500 and you wont have money left over for wheels by then. oh yeah vinyl will cost you $800+.
its gonna look like crap without nice wheels/stance
waiting for G-Spec to chime in on this.
coils + nice wheels + lip will do you good.
below are pics of some nice and clean examples of what i mean. a bit too low though.
keep it clean cause what you want is pretty messy. but by all means, mod it to however you like, its your car bro
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4081/4776779930_ddbbae2976.jpg
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcf4jiSwdu1qck2vmo1_500.jpg
http://dudesphotography.smugmug.com/photos/578419926_77EYf-XL.jpg
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Jacco%20Willemsen/Random%20Shots/350Z%20DPE.jpg
Nah It wasn't that harsh don't worry. haha. But I disagree with you about being totally determined to rice it out. I've decided to go on the search for a good set of coils + wheels for my car but a lot of people are more worried about bashing on the fact that I'm more rice than stance to really help me with the stance part of the build and recommend wheels, brands, vendors etc. Either way want to have finding the perfect set of wheels as a first priority right now then work my way up from there.
Forgot to tell ya, I have a few friends who are pretty good at this stuff so they said they'll help me out with the DIY after I make up mind about everything. Including wrapping which will be done at cost so hopefully that'll help me shrink down the costs. :)
idk maybe b/c I'm still new with modding but for some reason I don't really dig the super low oem looking 350z. I think with me it works better not to have it that low. prefer it more on like an old civic, gti or golf. imo.
350zz
03-09-2012, 02:34 AM
Always Always Always do the footwork FIRST....
If you go with the chargespeed rear and ings front... we'd be twins!
Kinda makes me =[ but also =] LMAO!
Nightwalker
03-09-2012, 03:19 AM
but a lot of people are more worried about bashing on the fact that I'm more rice than stance [...]
idk maybe b/c I'm still new with modding but for some reason I don't really dig the super low oem looking 350z. I think with me it works better not to have it that low. prefer it more on like an old civic, gti or golf. imo.
Don't let them fool you, stance is rice and not everyone wants a car they can't even get out of their driveway or over a speedbump :p
Look into these perhaps, Function&Form coilovers priced at $925 and are 32 way dampening adjustable. I have them on my TSX and they ride very well for daily driving and allow you to go wayyyyy low and lay frame or just a subtle drop
https://f2autolife.3dcartstores.com/TYPE-TWO-350zG35_p_30.html
ilvtofu
03-09-2012, 08:09 AM
:heckno:
Multiply that by 10x if you want it done right. $2500 can only afford you a set of properly fitted wheels.
Did not read the thread after this post. :lawl:
For wheels + tires $2500 for 350Z fitment doesn't even get you that nice a set.
It will easily get decent coils though and a set of varrstoens too.
MADEINJAPAN
03-09-2012, 09:52 AM
For wheels + tires $2500 for 350Z fitment doesn't even get you that nice a set.
It will easily get decent coils though and a set of varrstoens too.
Found a set that I liked:
VarrsToen » ES 2.2.2 (19″) | Gloss White | Textured Matte Anthracite | Cobalt Blue | (http://varrstoen.com/blog/?p=281)
looks a lot like Te37 imo lol.
Any idea roughly how much a set is off of them?
MADEINJAPAN
03-09-2012, 09:59 AM
nvm replica's haha
anti-vip
03-09-2012, 12:46 PM
nuttin wrong with reps...
Firmware
03-09-2012, 12:47 PM
Go 20in , staggered , coilovers.
TurboFC3S
03-09-2012, 01:05 PM
I would never buy replica wheels.. How do you know what standard they were built at and quality? My friend had replica wheels on his car, looked just like the real thing and he drove over a pothole and rim basically broke in 2 peices lol
and OP u seem like a young big dreamer with a very small budget for what your goals are no offense.... But my advice is Coilovers first , then save for wheels / tires. Then put a intake / exhaust on and it will feel like a diff car
Konvict
03-09-2012, 04:13 PM
base your car on personal style! and buy my rims... 18" work VS-xx HUGE LIP HUGE OFFSET LOL pm me if youre interested
also i miss my 350 enjoy the project!
base your car on personal style! and buy my rims... 18" work VS-xx HUGE LIP HUGE OFFSET LOL pm me if youre interested
also i miss my 350 enjoy the project!
your wheel = entire budget of his. :heckno:
MADEINJAPAN
03-09-2012, 05:47 PM
nuttin wrong with reps...
Never said there was. Just realized why they looked exactly like te37's. lol
MADEINJAPAN
03-09-2012, 05:48 PM
Go 20in , staggered , coilovers.
I was thinking wide 19in with coilovers and maybe spacers.
1exotic
03-09-2012, 05:54 PM
I was thinking wide 19in with coilovers and maybe spacers.
. wat .
I was thinking wide 19in with coilovers and maybe spacers.
don't make the mistake i made. don't go with spacers.
make sure that you get the right wheel for your car with right width and offset.
flush for your car 19" would be. 19x9.5 22et front, 19x10.5 22et for conservative set up..
19x9.5 12 et, 19x10.5 15 et with more aggressive.. or ppl just go apeshit crazy on offset.. like 19x10.5 -100000000000000 et front and 19x11 -1000000000000 et :P
but on more serious note. just get the correct size first. do it right the first time!
TRDood
03-09-2012, 06:13 PM
For wheels + tires $2500 for 350Z fitment doesn't even get you that nice a set.
It will easily get decent coils though and a set of varrstoens too.
Notice I only said wheels. $2500 is about $600 a wheel. 19x9/19x10 can buy a nice used set of Works or VR. New would be something VMR.
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SpuGen
03-09-2012, 06:15 PM
I really hope this kid makes a thread on Zilvia.
They're not as nice as we are. I can already tell that most of us are holding back from shitting on this thread.
Konvict
03-09-2012, 08:40 PM
3k gets you my set ;)
Timpo
03-09-2012, 11:26 PM
Get a Power Craft exhaust...it has a bypass valve so that you can enjoy both straight pipe sound and quieter sound(with muffler).
パワークラフト,Z34,Z33,R35GTR,V35,BMW,フ゠§ãƒ©ãƒ¼ãƒª,ランボルギーニ,ãƒãƒ«ã‚·ã‚§å¯å¤ ‰ãƒãƒ«ãƒ–アクãƒãƒ¥ã‚¨ãƒ¼ã‚¿ãƒ¼æ©Ÿæ§‹ã€Œãƒã‚¤ã ƒ–リットエã‚$ゾーストシステãƒ$ã€ãƒžãƒ• ラー製作販売ã®Power Craft (http://www.power-craft.jp/base11112.html) :fuckyea:
Power Craft Z33 Hybrid Exhaust System - YouTube
Power Craft Nissan Z33 Hybrid Exhaust System - YouTube
MADEINJAPAN
03-12-2012, 08:13 PM
don't make the mistake i made. don't go with spacers.
make sure that you get the right wheel for your car with right width and offset.
flush for your car 19" would be. 19x9.5 22et front, 19x10.5 22et for conservative set up..
19x9.5 12 et, 19x10.5 15 et with more aggressive.. or ppl just go apeshit crazy on offset.. like 19x10.5 -100000000000000 et front and 19x11 -1000000000000 et :P
but on more serious note. just get the correct size first. do it right the first time!
Heard that 22 was the best. =/ Guess ill look into it a bit more. haha. What size are you running?
MADEINJAPAN
03-12-2012, 08:15 PM
Notice I only said wheels. $2500 is about $600 a wheel. 19x9/19x10 can buy a nice used set of Works or VR. New would be something VMR.
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Dually noted. I'll look into that. I think doing something different than te37's. Wayy too played out. thanks
MADEINJAPAN
03-12-2012, 08:15 PM
Get a Power Craft exhaust...it has a bypass valve so that you can enjoy both straight pipe sound and quieter sound(with muffler).
パワークラフト,Z34,Z33,R35GTR,V35,BMW,フ゠§ãƒ©ãƒ¼ãƒª,ランボルギーニ,ãƒãƒ«ã‚·ã‚§å¯å¤ ‰ãƒãƒ«ãƒ–アクãƒãƒ¥ã‚¨ãƒ¼ã‚¿ãƒ¼æ©Ÿæ§‹ã€Œãƒã‚¤ã ƒ–リットエã‚$ゾーストシステãƒ$ã€ãƒžãƒ• ラー製作販売ã®Power Craft (http://www.power-craft.jp/base11112.html) :fuckyea:
Power Craft Z33 Hybrid Exhaust System - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yTZuipkJ8E)
Power Craft Nissan Z33 Hybrid Exhaust System - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZt802YVAsw)
Already scored a steal on the 5Zigen pro racer cat-back haha. sorry =P
MADEINJAPAN
03-12-2012, 08:22 PM
I really hope this kid makes a thread on Zilvia.
They're not as nice as we are. I can already tell that most of us are holding back from shitting on this thread.
You realize there's no point on really posting on a thread when you don't have any useful information to share.
I would assume that its usually the job of someone of experience to help those that are newer and less experienced.
Kthxbye.
Heard that 22 was the best. =/ Guess ill look into it a bit more. haha. What size are you running?
18x9.5 et 22 front
18x10.5 et 15 rear
:fuckyea:
freakshow
03-13-2012, 01:06 PM
I might have missed it, but what is your budget for the body kit, paint, rims, tires, coils, install and tax?
GDChoi
03-13-2012, 07:38 PM
Get a Power Craft exhaust...it has a bypass valve so that you can enjoy both straight pipe sound and quieter sound(with muffler).
パワークラフト,Z34,Z33,R35GTR,V35,BMW,フ゠§ãƒ©ãƒ¼ãƒª,ランボルギーニ,ãƒãƒ«ã‚·ã‚§å¯å¤ ‰ãƒãƒ«ãƒ–アクãƒãƒ¥ã‚¨ãƒ¼ã‚¿ãƒ¼æ©Ÿæ§‹ã€Œãƒã‚¤ã ƒ–リットエã‚$ゾーストシステãƒ$ã€ãƒžãƒ• ラー製作販売ã®Power Craft (http://www.power-craft.jp/base11112.html) :fuckyea:
Power Craft Z33 Hybrid Exhaust System - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yTZuipkJ8E)
Power Craft Nissan Z33 Hybrid Exhaust System - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZt802YVAsw)
Those sound like asssssss
Nismo makes the best exhaust for the 350. the vq engine already sounds good y ruin it.
I might have missed it, but what is your budget for the body kit, paint, rims, tires, coils, install and tax?
iirc 2500
Death2Theft
03-13-2012, 08:52 PM
Save your money and get a GTR.
MADEINJAPAN
03-13-2012, 09:08 PM
Save your money and get a GTR.
You mean save your money, get you parents to buy you a GT-R. Only in Vancouver LOL or more specifically richmond.
MADEINJAPAN
03-13-2012, 09:09 PM
18x9.5 et 22 front
18x10.5 et 15 rear
:fuckyea:
How does the 18's look with a body kit on?
MADEINJAPAN
03-13-2012, 09:19 PM
I might have missed it, but what is your budget for the body kit, paint, rims, tires, coils, install and tax?
Uhh well the break down isn't too bad.
Body kit is about $1000 - $1200 (poly) from bausauto off of a Z forum.
the car is going to be wrapped by friends so say roughly $500 - 800?
Rims/tires... I think I may be sticking with 18's for now and save up for a good set of used te37's or just grab something when I go back to Japan sometime.
Coils.... I really want to save up for bilstein Pss9 heard some good things.
May get hotchkis lowering springs instead for the time being (found some nice used ones and heard good things about these too...)
Everyone at the Z forums seem to say that with a low car like a Z theirs no point in getting coils unless your planning on tracking the car. So I may be satisfied with just the lowering springs for now.
Install is all done through my friends shop so maybe like a 48 pack of beer haha.
I also scored a brand new 5zigen full cat back for 350z from a close out sale for dirt cheap.
Other small costs would be like possibly getting a fairladyz emblem or frequenting classified's, scrap shops for 06+ headlights and Tail lights
MADEINJAPAN
03-13-2012, 09:21 PM
Always Always Always do the footwork FIRST....
If you go with the chargespeed rear and ings front... we'd be twins!
Kinda makes me =[ but also =] LMAO!
What color? lol Might just go full ings...
MADEINJAPAN
03-13-2012, 09:24 PM
I would never buy replica wheels.. How do you know what standard they were built at and quality? My friend had replica wheels on his car, looked just like the real thing and he drove over a pothole and rim basically broke in 2 peices lol
and OP u seem like a young big dreamer with a very small budget for what your goals are no offense.... But my advice is Coilovers first , then save for wheels / tires. Then put a intake / exhaust on and it will feel like a diff car
Lol yeah a friend showed be a vid by weds where they had a replica wheel and the authentic wheel and did like a strength test to it... replica's cracked or bent in multiple places... scary stuff haha
JapaDog
03-13-2012, 11:18 PM
Uhh well the break down isn't too bad.
Body kit is about $1000 - $1200 (poly) from bausauto off of a Z forum.
the car is going to be wrapped by friends so say roughly $500 - 800?
Rims/tires... I think I may be sticking with 18's for now and save up for a good set of used te37's or just grab something when I go back to Japan sometime.
Coils.... I really want to save up for bilstein Pss9 heard some good things.
May get hotchkis lowering springs instead for the time being (found some nice used ones and heard good things about these too...)
Everyone at the Z forums seem to say that with a low car like a Z theirs no point in getting coils unless your planning on tracking the car. So I may be satisfied with just the lowering springs for now.
Install is all done through my friends shop so maybe like a 48 pack of beer haha.
I also scored a brand new 5zigen full cat back for 350z from a close out sale for dirt cheap.
Other small costs would be like possibly getting a fairladyz emblem or frequenting classified's, scrap shops for 06+ headlights and Tail lights
Your budget can be a little off there.
The guys in here are really being very polite to you and as many of us have been through the whole modding stage in our life, my word to you in modding is, to never under estimate your modification plan/budget.
When your car gets roll into the body shop and things start getting put onto the car, you will soon find out that there are going to be little things you will have to spend here and there in order to get the car finished.
Here's my breakdown for you:
Body Kit: $1000-1200 (Assuming you are ordering in Canada and this is a "landed" price, if not you will have to then add tax, shipping and your own gas in there to accurately budget the plan)
Vinyl: $650 (Assuming you are going to use Di-noc which is the least you should get because anything less is not going to be worthwhile for you, you are going to need some very strong connection in order to get them at $500.)
Now here's the big part, the labour:
Body Kit installation: Min $1200 for a 5 pieces work with no paint, please don't tell me you are going to just wrap your bumper and parts without at least priming/smoothening the surface of those body parts.
Coilover installation: $450+
Alignment: $150
That is $3650 and you're still missing the rims/tires and coilover which together can run you 4.5k totally easily for some used quality set.
your final total with everything is going to be around 8k when finish.
Modding your car like that isn't for the faint of heart. In regards to under budgeting, we've all been there before; my advice to you, wanting something and optimistically budgeting your plan isn't the way to go.
tofu1413
03-13-2012, 11:58 PM
shouldve just bought a 350Z nismo. /thread.
2008 Nissan 350Z Nismo (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/pml/ctd/2895021880.html)
http://0.tqn.com/d/cars/1/0/T/k/ny_07_nismo350z.jpg
MADEINJAPAN
03-14-2012, 01:39 AM
Your budget can be a little off there.
The guys in here are really being very polite to you and as many of us have been through the whole modding stage in our life, my word to you in modding is, to never under estimate your modification plan/budget.
When your car gets roll into the body shop and things start getting put onto the car, you will soon find out that there are going to be little things you will have to spend here and there in order to get the car finished.
Here's my breakdown for you:
Body Kit: $1000-1200 (Assuming you are ordering in Canada and this is a "landed" price, if not you will have to then add tax, shipping and your own gas in there to accurately budget the plan)
Vinyl: $650 (Assuming you are going to use Di-noc which is the least you should get because anything less is not going to be worthwhile for you, you are going to need some very strong connection in order to get them at $500.)
Now here's the big part, the labour:
Body Kit installation: Min $1200 for a 5 pieces work with no paint, please don't tell me you are going to just wrap your bumper and parts without at least priming/smoothening the surface of those body parts.
Coilover installation: $450+
Alignment: $150
That is $3650 and you're still missing the rims/tires and coilover which together can run you 4.5k totally easily for some used quality set.
your final total with everything is going to be around 8k when finish.
Modding your car like that isn't for the faint of heart. In regards to under budgeting, we've all been there before; my advice to you, wanting something and optimistically budgeting your plan isn't the way to go.
Noted. Most likely everything will have to be put piece by piece over time.
The bilstein pss9 alone is about $2300.
I assume most of it is going to be diy. but thats under the assumption that the kit is going to fit perfectly but will be highly unlikely.
As for wheels, Idk exactly what I want to do quite yet but am leaning towards just getting oem. Either the rays track v1 or Rays G35 19 for now instead of cheaping out on replica's. I just want to clarify that its only temporary. (I heard some people just keep upgrading over time.) And instead of coils, thinking of used lowering springs.... temp as well...
I actually projected that by the end of everything, I would spend easily over 10k... lol.
Appreciate the help btw
MindBomber
03-14-2012, 02:31 AM
Noted. Most likely everything will have to be put piece by piece over time.
The bilstein pss9 alone is about $2300.
I assume most of it is going to be diy. but thats under the assumption that the kit is going to fit perfectly but will be highly unlikely.
As for wheels, Idk exactly what I want to do quite yet but am leaning towards just getting oem. Either the rays track v1 or Rays G35 19 for now instead of cheaping out on replica's. I just want to clarify that its only temporary. (I heard some people just keep upgrading over time.) And instead of coils, thinking of used lowering springs.... temp as well...
I actually projected that by the end of everything, I would spend easily over 10k... lol.
Appreciate the help btw
I've been doing my best to hold back on this thread..
You want to spend $2300 on Bilstein pss9, but based on what I'm seeing you post, this is basically a street car. Buying a part inappropriate for the build, solely because it's the highest quality/most expensive/ballerest part is a great technique to burn a massive amount of money very quickly. If essentially all you're looking for is ride height adjustability then just buy the most basic set of Teins coilovers available for your platform, you won't notice any difference.
Don't waste money buying the same part three times, upgrading from lowering springs to coils just to get it done fast is foolish. First of all, the lowering springs will ride like utter shit on stock shocks. Second, you will be paying for an alignment, the installation, and the parts that inevitably seem to break during installation twice by doing things twice. Do lots of people slowly upgrade over time? Sure, and those are the people who spend $20k on mods to have a practically stock car. Spend money wisely, plan out your build in advance.
You WILL need to have the body kit fitted and mounted by a shop if you want it to look anywhere near decent, budget for it, because that will not be cheap.
And finally, please, that button that says multi next to quote, use it!
350zz
03-14-2012, 01:38 PM
I'm running 19x9.5 +22 and 19x10.5 +22... looks good, rides great!
MADEINJAPAN
03-14-2012, 01:51 PM
I've been doing my best to hold back on this thread..
You want to spend $2300 on Bilstein pss9, but based on what I'm seeing you post, this is basically a street car. Buying a part inappropriate for the build, solely because it's the highest quality/most expensive/ballerest part is a great technique to burn a massive amount of money very quickly. If essentially all you're looking for is ride height adjustability then just buy the most basic set of Teins coilovers available for your platform, you won't notice any difference.
Don't waste money buying the same part three times, upgrading from lowering springs to coils just to get it done fast is foolish. First of all, the lowering springs will ride like utter shit on stock shocks. Second, you will be paying for an alignment, the installation, and the parts that inevitably seem to break during installation twice by doing things twice. Do lots of people slowly upgrade over time? Sure, and those are the people who spend $20k on mods to have a practically stock car. Spend money wisely, plan out your build in advance.
You WILL need to have the body kit fitted and mounted by a shop if you want it to look anywhere near decent, budget for it, because that will not be cheap.
And finally, please, that button that says multi next to quote, use it!
Mhm kk ill go with that instead then. I head some terrible stuff about the ride quality on tein basics... but ill look into a lower end set of coils.
MADEINJAPAN
03-14-2012, 01:55 PM
I'm running 19x9.5 +22 and 19x10.5 +22... looks good, rides great!
Yeah thats usually the recommended setup on most Z forums haha. I think someone was telling me to go more aggressive though. lol. like +12 what do you think?
Also thought you would like to see this haha. I found it pretty interesting
performance difference between 18 and 19 inch rims on 350z - YouTube
Also have any experience with 20's?
MADEINJAPAN
03-15-2012, 12:26 AM
With the body kit etc on hold for now need some input on some wheels.
browsing through a few forums here and there, I found some great options for wheels.
The first, posted on this thread about varrstoen is the es 2.2.2 which is 19 inch wheel that looks exactly the same as the Volk Te37.
Another option I was thinking was of getting the oem g35 Rays 19's. I noticed that a lot of people on Z forums were opting for this and I can definitely see the pros.
First they ARE rays made in japan so of extremely high quality.
Second they are relatively cheap as they are often overlooked as oem.
And lastly a much better choice + value for a wheel. Much better than buying $1000 replica wheels and risk them falling apart on the first pothole you come across...
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff495/shyun1250/350z%20Mods/350z19rays.jpg
I was also looking at 20's but I think they seem a little too big...
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff495/shyun1250/350z%20Mods/350z20inchgtrwheel.jpg
donjalapeno
03-15-2012, 08:56 AM
^ wow it looks so awkward with the GTR wheels
freakshow
03-15-2012, 09:12 AM
Ok, the fact that you think a full $1200 kit even has a remote chance of good fitment means that you're in for a rude awakening.
you really need to make a plan and have a time frame. it's clear to me, and i think many others here, that you simply don't have enough money to do the things you want to do.
you're going to end up doing everything in stages, because most people that had the extra 10K lying around would have bought a nicer car to begin with. no offense.
so now that you're going to do everything in stages, you need to know when you're going to have money to do the next stages (if you don't give up by then)
Do you really want to start with a body kit that will put you 3-4K in the hole while you'll be on stock suspension and plastidip rims?
start with the wheels and suspension, get a nice stance and some rims, then 4K later, see what you think. Do you want to dump another 3.5K in for the kit?
you never seen people post pictures of cars with a sweet kit but stock wheels/suspension. ever.
you will, however, see people post pictures of stock cars with sweet wheels.
If I were you, I'd take whatever you have budgeted for each part of the car, ie. suspension, body and etc... and double it. Things are never what they seem to be when you price things out in your head. Its always nice to have backup cash incase you need extra parts/work done.
There are always hidden costs to everything done.
Also, have you ever ridden in a car with tein basics? Yes some people say they dont ride nice, but those are the ppl that want stiffer ride and they feel its too soft for them. The basics are a very good entry level coilover(not badly priced might I add), but are very mild, but has the height adjust-ability everyone wants. Which in certain aspects are good for just everyday driving. If you are not going to track the car, why bother spending crazy amounts on a coilover with dampening and rebound control when you'll never even need it on the street, nor even understand how the adjustments affect the handling of the car.
But in the end, its your money and how you spend it on YOUR car is entirely up to you. At the end of the day, as long as you're happy, that's all that matters.
MADEINJAPAN
03-15-2012, 12:30 PM
Ok, the fact that you think a full $1200 kit even has a remote chance of good fitment means that you're in for a rude awakening.
you really need to make a plan and have a time frame. it's clear to me, and i think many others here, that you simply don't have enough money to do the things you want to do.
you're going to end up doing everything in stages, because most people that had the extra 10K lying around would have bought a nicer car to begin with. no offense.
so now that you're going to do everything in stages, you need to know when you're going to have money to do the next stages (if you don't give up by then)
Do you really want to start with a body kit that will put you 3-4K in the hole while you'll be on stock suspension and plastidip rims?
start with the wheels and suspension, get a nice stance and some rims, then 4K later, see what you think. Do you want to dump another 3.5K in for the kit?
you never seen people post pictures of cars with a sweet kit but stock wheels/suspension. ever.
you will, however, see people post pictures of stock cars with sweet wheels.
If you look at your post above you. You'll see that the decision has already been made to put the body kit on hold.
Give me some input on the wheels and tein basics. and which one I should get. I heard theirs S and H which frankly I don't really know the difference between.
MADEINJAPAN
03-15-2012, 12:32 PM
^ wow it looks so awkward with the GTR wheels
Yeah haha. I think 20's in general make it look a little awkward imo.
But right now everyone down south is switching from the 19" forged to the Gt-r's 20's lol.
I was talking to this guy on 350zmotoring who has 20's apparently theirs no room to lower =P
MADEINJAPAN
03-15-2012, 12:37 PM
If I were you, I'd take whatever you have budgeted for each part of the car, ie. suspension, body and etc... and double it. Things are never what they seem to be when you price things out in your head. Its always nice to have backup cash incase you need extra parts/work done.
There are always hidden costs to everything done.
Also, have you ever ridden in a car with tein basics? Yes some people say they dont ride nice, but those are the ppl that want stiffer ride and they feel its too soft for them. The basics are a very good entry level coilover(not badly priced might I add), but are very mild, but has the height adjust-ability everyone wants. Which in certain aspects are good for just everyday driving. If you are not going to track the car, why bother spending crazy amounts on a coilover with dampening and rebound control when you'll never even need it on the street, nor even understand how the adjustments affect the handling of the car.
But in the end, its your money and how you spend it on YOUR car is entirely up to you. At the end of the day, as long as you're happy, that's all that matters.
Thank you. That was exactly the kind of answer that I needed to make up my mind on the tein basics. Where do you think the cut off is for decent coils in regards to pricing. Now I know teins are good but I also want to look around to see what else is on the market. I've raised the current budget to 4.5k and will probably keep adding with the upcoming summer.
Also when you say that don't ride as stiff as other coils, how do they ride in comparison to stock? Since I'm not planning on tracking it, I agree that a stiffer ride would be useless and would prefer something a little more forgiving.
MADEINJAPAN
03-15-2012, 04:35 PM
Update:
Personally I like the G35 wheels quite a bit. found a few local classifieds. Any recommended tire brands and specs for 19's?
Also happened to come across a set of used Bilstein Pss9's that were ridden for 10k miles but are listed for cheaper than a new set of tein basics. Thoughts?
MADEINJAPAN
03-16-2012, 10:06 AM
Edit: Also found used hotchkis cois/koni spring combo and tanabe soc
jpark
03-16-2012, 11:25 AM
awesome thread, would read again
Looks like crap on 20s cus it's got like 3 feet of ground clearance
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MADEINJAPAN
03-16-2012, 01:01 PM
Looks like crap on 20s cus it's got like 3 feet of ground clearance
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+1 agreed. Looks pretty awkward imo.
MADEINJAPAN
03-16-2012, 01:02 PM
Probably going to grab bilstein pss B14 with upgraded springs... any idea if I need anything else to make this set up work? Currently looking into a used camber kit.
err i would not cheap out on any of the suspension parts.. bilstein should be ok. There are so many different kinds of coilovers available for the Z.
If you are going to track your car, go true style coilover. I myself have just the oem style with pre-set damper. non adjustable.
I went with SPC camberkit. front and back. Heard a lot of good things about the SPL kit also.
if you go 19s, get ready to spend a lot on tires.. even with replica wheels and decent tire, you are going to spend at least 2.5k. with other suspension kits, prolly around 4kish minimum.
MADEINJAPAN
03-16-2012, 10:40 PM
err i would not cheap out on any of the suspension parts.. bilstein should be ok. There are so many different kinds of coilovers available for the Z.
If you are going to track your car, go true style coilover. I myself have just the oem style with pre-set damper. non adjustable.
I went with SPC camberkit. front and back. Heard a lot of good things about the SPL kit also.
if you go 19s, get ready to spend a lot on tires.. even with replica wheels and decent tire, you are going to spend at least 2.5k. with other suspension kits, prolly around 4kish minimum.
Yeah the coils are used but they seem legit enough. The seller seems like a stand up guy from my350z. The coils have 10000 miles on them but they come with the full set up with upgraded springs. Does it sound about right?
Apparently I need a spring mount and perch for install but he said he can throw them in for free. As for tires, I found dunlops that are apparently bang for their buck for 187 a tire.
I'm getting a lot of feed back not to go 19's and just stay 18's. Would 18's lowered slightly with a bodykit look weird? I decided not to completely slam the thing and instead stay within 1" for now.
G-spec
03-17-2012, 02:39 PM
you know what I did prior to getting my VQ, I spent months and months browsing, JUST browsing the 350z and G35 forums before I even got the car and once I got it I knew pretty much what was what.
I'm not saying you should do what I did even though it's a pretty bulletproof method, but you really should slow down and take your time, the way you're going right from what I'm seeing is one day you decide on one thing and the next day it's something else. Do yourself a favor, simmer down, spend some time looking up some threads from respectable members on my350z.com and g35driver.com, there is massive threads on those forums with all kinds of information for you for every single question you've asked here so far, WITH pictures, specs, etc...
And when I say LOOKING UP i mean looking up, not asking a bunch of different questions on what you should do, this is only gonna set you back weeks if not months, because everyone will have their preferences and will give you different answers which will lead to more confusion. Look it up see what YOU like and do it YOUR way.
The reason I mentioned G35driver.com BTW for those that don't know is because the parts between a G35 and 350z are interchangeable, same parts fit both cars since they are the exact same car underneath the shell.
Anyway good luck and the last bit of advice I would give you is to come over to our local VQ club site Nissan/Infiniti Club of Canada (http://www.niclub.ca/) and you will find a lot of useful information for us local owners.
And in my opinion some of the better looking Z's go a little something like this, simple and clean, although I wouldnt recommend you go this low with a good sports car like a Z, especially for our shitty streets
that's about 10-15 grand worth of exterior/suspension mods on the first black Z, and about 5+ g's on the second one (thats a stock Nismo edition exterior, you can buy the whole kit for about a grand)
http://i.imgur.com/2ksROl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MPmTNl.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e247/morphiusrt/80485385.jpg
MADEINJAPAN
03-17-2012, 02:55 PM
you know what I did prior to getting my VQ, I spent months and months browsing, JUST browsing the 350z and G35 forums before I even got the car and once I got it I knew pretty much what was what.
I'm not saying you should do what I did even though it's a pretty bulletproof method, but you really should slow down and take your time, the way you're going right from what I'm seeing is one day you decide on one thing and the next day it's something else. Do yourself a favor, simmer down, spend some time looking up some threads from respectable members on my350z.com and g35driver.com, there is massive threads on those forums with all kinds of information for you for every single question you've asked here so far, WITH pictures, specs, etc...
And when I say LOOKING UP i mean looking up, not asking a bunch of different questions on what you should do, this is only gonna set you back weeks if not months, because everyone will have their preferences and will give you different answers which will lead to more confusion. Look it up see what YOU like and do it YOUR way.
The reason I mentioned G35driver.com BTW for those that don't know is because the parts between a G35 and 350z are interchangeable, same parts fit both cars since they are the exact same car underneath the shell.
Anyway good luck and the last bit of advice I would give you is to come over to our local VQ club site Nissan/Infiniti Club of Canada (http://www.niclub.ca/) and you will find a lot of useful information for us local owners.
And in my opinion some of the better looking Z's go a little something like this, simple and clean, although I wouldnt recommend you go this low with a good sports car like a Z, especially for our shitty streets
that's about 10-15 grand worth of exterior/suspension mods on the first black Z, and about 5+ g's on the second one (thats a stock Nismo edition exterior, you can buy the whole kit for about a grand)
http://i.imgur.com/2ksROl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MPmTNl.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e247/morphiusrt/80485385.jpg
Haha well the whole mess of a OP was what I had gotten from about 6 months of research. I have about 273 links which were saved pertaining to my car (slowing down my comp like crazy) but I never considered getting wheels and suspension. Thought I could just get away with painting wheels black and just get lowering springs. But apparently not =P. So its been a crazy few weeks but that craziness is only about looking for wheels and coilovers. The rest should be solid.
MADEINJAPAN
03-17-2012, 02:59 PM
you know what I did prior to getting my VQ, I spent months and months browsing, JUST browsing the 350z and G35 forums before I even got the car and once I got it I knew pretty much what was what.
I'm not saying you should do what I did even though it's a pretty bulletproof method, but you really should slow down and take your time, the way you're going right from what I'm seeing is one day you decide on one thing and the next day it's something else. Do yourself a favor, simmer down, spend some time looking up some threads from respectable members on my350z.com and g35driver.com, there is massive threads on those forums with all kinds of information for you for every single question you've asked here so far, WITH pictures, specs, etc...
And when I say LOOKING UP i mean looking up, not asking a bunch of different questions on what you should do, this is only gonna set you back weeks if not months, because everyone will have their preferences and will give you different answers which will lead to more confusion. Look it up see what YOU like and do it YOUR way.
The reason I mentioned G35driver.com BTW for those that don't know is because the parts between a G35 and 350z are interchangeable, same parts fit both cars since they are the exact same car underneath the shell.
Anyway good luck and the last bit of advice I would give you is to come over to our local VQ club site Nissan/Infiniti Club of Canada (http://www.niclub.ca/) and you will find a lot of useful information for us local owners.
And in my opinion some of the better looking Z's go a little something like this, simple and clean, although I wouldnt recommend you go this low with a good sports car like a Z, especially for our shitty streets
that's about 10-15 grand worth of exterior/suspension mods on the first black Z, and about 5+ g's on the second one (thats a stock Nismo edition exterior, you can buy the whole kit for about a grand)
http://i.imgur.com/2ksROl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MPmTNl.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e247/morphiusrt/80485385.jpg
Forgot to add but im already a member on my350z, g35, 350zmotoring, 350z-tech?, and nicoclub haha. But i'll look into a more local club other than rs. I can't believe we don't have a Vancouver 350z club like genesis does D=. And personally I wouldn't drop my car more than an 1". I think the Z looks low enough already imo and lower would just make it look funny....
Konvict
03-17-2012, 06:32 PM
^ listen to g-spec... good advice right there... niclub.ca is the local nissan club. lots of 350 guys g35 300zx and more.
and 20" rims look fine on a 350 long as you lower it right. i still had 3 inch clearance and didnt scrape at all.
G-spec
03-17-2012, 06:44 PM
thats a lot of forums so good stuff, cant believe you missed NiClub.ca, lol we're the biggest VQ club locally, had over 30 club members just attending last years RS meet, and thats just the guys that come out to the meets, we have many more than that...
oh and uhhh if you got a 100k to blow, your car can turn out something like Konvicts Fast & Furious Veilside Z up there in his sig pic, that dude's car is loco !
Matsuda
03-17-2012, 07:25 PM
G-Spec, that first black 350z is hot! Konvict what are you driving now after you sold your car?
MADEINJAPAN
03-17-2012, 07:52 PM
^ listen to g-spec... good advice right there... niclub.ca is the local nissan club. lots of 350 guys g35 300zx and more.
and 20" rims look fine on a 350 long as you lower it right. i still had 3 inch clearance and didnt scrape at all.
Any recommendations? I actually really liked the look of the rays 19's for g35 imo =/
MADEINJAPAN
03-17-2012, 07:53 PM
thats a lot of forums so good stuff, cant believe you missed NiClub.ca, lol we're the biggest VQ club locally, had over 30 club members just attending last years RS meet, and thats just the guys that come out to the meets, we have many more than that...
oh and uhhh if you got a 100k to blow, your car can turn out something like Konvicts Fast & Furious Veilside Z up there in his sig pic, that dude's car is loco !
Dang I wish someone had told me that sooner! I'll get on that asap. Do you guys have small meets just with Niclub members in Vancouver?
Konvict
03-18-2012, 10:49 AM
Any recommendations? I actually really liked the look of the rays 19's for g35 imo =/
i like the way my rims would fit on a 350z. but thats only if you like wide wheels with a beefy stance. if you want a stockish look and a clean car then the rays are prob a good way to go.
thats a lot of forums so good stuff, cant believe you missed NiClub.ca, lol we're the biggest VQ club locally, had over 30 club members just attending last years RS meet, and thats just the guys that come out to the meets, we have many more than that...
oh and uhhh if you got a 100k to blow, your car can turn out something like Konvicts Fast & Furious Veilside Z up there in his sig pic, that dude's car is loco !
LOL hardly 100k but i do miss it! no ones seen it in years apparently so who knows what happnd with it
G-Spec, that first black 350z is hot! Konvict what are you driving now after you sold your car?
i built a 240sx shortly after then sold it. didnt go back into modding game since. just driving a TSX now. will get back into it but searching for property first. wanted a 370z project but wifes convincing me to get an EVO as its more practical.. 4 doors awd etc
Dang I wish someone had told me that sooner! I'll get on that asap. Do you guys have small meets just with Niclub members in Vancouver?
yeah they still do meets in summertime- saw u posted on there today head out to rs meet to meet all the guys.
MADEINJAPAN
03-18-2012, 04:42 PM
i like the way my rims would fit on a 350z. but thats only if you like wide wheels with a beefy stance. if you want a stockish look and a clean car then the rays are prob a good way to go.
LOL hardly 100k but i do miss it! no ones seen it in years apparently so who knows what happnd with it
i built a 240sx shortly after then sold it. didnt go back into modding game since. just driving a TSX now. will get back into it but searching for property first. wanted a 370z project but wifes convincing me to get an EVO as its more practical.. 4 doors awd etc
yeah they still do meets in summertime- saw u posted on there today head out to rs meet to meet all the guys.
Yeah trying to keep as much of the ridability as I can out of my Z without compromising looks too much. I missed my chance on a sweet deal on some bilstein pss b14's b/c I didn't want to put down a deposit... =/ Will have to begin my search again... sigh. lol. really wanted the pss9's.
I think i'll start going out to meets once I get some insurance for my Z. Stored for the winter and I still have some snow...
MADEINJAPAN
03-20-2012, 05:00 PM
Anyone have any G35/350z coils for my Z? :D
SpuGen
03-20-2012, 05:12 PM
I have 19" G35 Rays if you want them. Cheap.
GabAlmighty
03-20-2012, 05:23 PM
Anyone have any G35/350z coils for my Z? :D
Just cut your springs
bcrdukes
03-20-2012, 05:37 PM
Yeah trying to keep as much of the ridability as I can out of my Z without compromising looks too much. I missed my chance on a sweet deal on some bilstein pss b14's
You're kidding, right? :rofl: :bowrofl: :neckbeard: :die:
MADEINJAPAN
03-20-2012, 08:42 PM
You're kidding, right? :rofl: :bowrofl: :neckbeard: :die:
My bad. I meant to say performance or handling.... I must've been distracted...=/
Ill edit that right away. haha.
MADEINJAPAN
03-20-2012, 08:43 PM
Just cut your springs
I heard that can be kinda sketch though.
GabAlmighty
03-20-2012, 08:45 PM
I heard that can be kinda sketch though.
I've done it. Drove from pomo to abby and back daily for about a year before I blew the transmission.
Shit looks mad tyte too
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/27113_10150133077015004_541465003_11140692_7531815 _n.jpg
Ok. get some aftermarket springs.. and cut the rear springmount.
You can shave off of this rubber mount underneath.. get more drop. http://g35driver.com/forums/attachments/steering-suspension/128255d1288663915-tein-350z-h-tech-springs-pro-cut-spring-mounts-img00168-20101101-2109.jpg
You are good as long as you get good alignment afterwards.
tofu1413
03-20-2012, 11:15 PM
I've done it. Drove from pomo to abby and back daily for about a year before I blew the transmission.
Shit looks mad tyte too
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/27113_10150133077015004_541465003_11140692_7531815 _n.jpg
looks boss. :fuckyea:
MADEINJAPAN
03-21-2012, 02:29 PM
Nah If I were to go the spring route I would just grab a set of hotchkis or eibach's.
I wouldn't feel comfortable going that route with a car like a Z. imo.
GabAlmighty
03-21-2012, 04:59 PM
Nah If I were to go the spring route I would just grab a set of hotchkis or eibach's.
I wouldn't feel comfortable going that route with a car like a Z. imo.
Think your car's better than mine or something?
MADEINJAPAN
03-21-2012, 06:03 PM
No just wouldn't feel comfortable taking my chances.
Especially since I'm new, I don't want to F*** anything up.
GabAlmighty
03-21-2012, 07:11 PM
Anything is better than what you've ever owned and will ever own.
http://troll.me/images/xzibit-yo-dawg/hahaha-fuck-you-bitch.jpg
GabAlmighty
03-22-2012, 09:54 AM
Please.
Yes?
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