[intr3pid]

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[Energy]

Are you worried about being implicated with him because you let him cheat?

I had a friend in a similar situation, he got caught with a crib sheet on a final exam. He talked his way out of more serious consequences but ended up with a 0 on that course. He could have been expelled and his record could have stated that he did academic dishonesty.

For what your friend did, he will probably only get 0 in that assignment. Or was it many assignments? He might also have a record of academic dishonesty. Its good that he came clean though.

[MeowMeow]

if your prof is solid on reporting it & your friend already confessed, theres really nothing you can do.....
My friend and her friend was in a same situation (UBC)... copier got kicked out and my friend apparently has a "record"
sorry to hear but your friend shouldve known not to copy word by word
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[Energy]

Your friend should express remorse and ask for leniency if it comes to that.

[TRDood]

... Double post

[SkinnyPupp]

Your friend is so stupid he can't even cheat properly :lawl:

Just hope you don't get implicated when he gets busted. Aside from that, not much you or anyone else can do for him. Sounds like school just wasn't the right path for him.
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[TRDood]

Dumb friend to not reword your assignment.

Are you on the hook as well? The facilitater is usually at fault too.

I was a TA at SFU. Caught more than half the class cheating on an assignment because the prof was too stupid to copy the exact question on the internet. The answer key was easily searchable. I told my students they are stupid for not rewording the answer key. Haha

Also told the prof he should at least change the question slightly.

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[Sky_High]

^ what happened to those students afterwards? Or the prof just didn't care?

[EvoFire]

I would be worried about yourself at this moment as the one being cheated off of will be reprimanded too.

He chose to cheat on you, let him deal with the repercussions, and you can worry about what's coming your way as there will be a good chance you get a academic dishonesty on your profile.

[rageguy]

If you can share the prof name and school, perhaps some of us will know how lenient this person is.

[blee123]

Are you worried about being implicated with him because you let him cheat?

I had a friend in a similar situation, he got caught with a crib sheet on a final exam. He talked his way out of more serious consequences but ended up with a 0 on that course. He could have been expelled and his record could have stated that he did academic dishonesty.

For what your friend did, he will probably only get 0 in that assignment. Or was it many assignments? He might also have a record of academic dishonesty. Its good that he came clean though.

which class was it that your friend got caught?

[Energy]

Econ 345 with newman. Stupid thing to do really.

[rageguy]

He is a sessional instructor. In general, they are more "by-the-book" because they started their teaching career recently, hoping to gain an on-going teaching contract by doing well.

[TRDood]

^ what happened to those students afterwards? Or the prof just didn't care?

Must be a trend that people cheat in econ classes. Mine was for Econ 305 at SFU. I told the prof he didn't give a shit.

I just gave everyone full marks on their assignments. Not to reward their cheating but I can't just give them zeros because I only handle 30% of the entire class. The class is curved so I don't want my "honest" students to have an unfair disadvantage.
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[EvoFire]

Econ 345 with newman. Stupid thing to do really.

Of all the classes he needs to cheat off of, he cheats on Econ 345? Can he really pick an easier class to cheat? I mean cheating is no good, but if he cheated on 305 it made more sense :rukidding:

[blee123]

Of all the classes he needs to cheat off of, he cheats on Econ 345? Can he really pick an easier class to cheat? I mean cheating is no good, but if he cheated on 305 it made more sense :rukidding:

akbar's classes are also hard to cheat on. He is so smart at catching ppl who cheat. He sets one or 2 TAs at the back while himself patrols around the class.

[TRDood]

akbar's classes are also hard to cheat on. He is so smart at catching ppl who cheat. He sets one or 2 TAs at the back while himself patrols around the class.

Akbar is back? I thought he got let go by the department, or didn't renew his contract. Horrid stories being Akbar's TA.
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[blee123]

Akbar is back? I thought he got let go by the department, or didn't renew his contract. Horrid stories being Akbar's TA.
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he now teaches at UBC. Last time he told me to sit at the very front during an exam :rukidding: even tho when i wasnt going to cheat. I therefore sat alone :alone:

[EvoFire]

akbar's classes are also hard to cheat on. He is so smart at catching ppl who cheat. He sets one or 2 TAs at the back while himself patrols around the class.

That's not what I meant, though its partly true too.

What I meant was 345 is so easy to start with, why do you need to cheat.

[TRDood]

he now teaches at UBC. Last time he told me to sit at the very front during an exam :rukidding: even tho when i wasnt going to cheat. I therefore sat alone :alone:

Wow. UBC must not have done any reference checks with SFU. feel sorry for UBC students.
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[xilley]

wow, if i could get in UBC id be smarter than letting a friend cheat off me.

[optiblue]

Ouch, just hope you don't get a record at this point. I had a friend that did a paper without citing all the literature and they got kicked out for plagiarism for a year. UBC takes it very seriously and could care less for the well being of your friend. Best case scenario is probation for a year at this point. Are they that stupid to not reword your assignment? I pretty much reworded many academic journals throwing in some of my own ideas and it was never a problem as long as you site pretty much every fact.
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[Jmac]

Hi RSers,

Here's the situation-

My friend was struggling in a class we're in. I sent him a copy of each of my assignments in hopes that he would re-word the answers so we wouldn't get caught. Turns out he didn't and the prof caught us. He admitted to everything and the prof said that he would report this incident to the department chair.

How should my friend proceed? I don't want this to ruin his academic career.

Thank you for your help.


Serious answers only, please. Your friend did something incredibly stupid and deserves whatever punishment he gets.

How should he proceed ? Take the fall by himself.

[DouMing]

^i feel sorry for your friend.. and you

you shouldn't let peer pressure get to you, letting him copy was the dumbest idea ever lol..

if he wasn't smart enough to reword what you sent him, he probably doesn't deserve to be in UBC

[vafanculo]

Its true. If he can't even cheat properly in school, how can he function in the real world.

[Sky_High]

So OP, how did it turn out at the end?

[Meowjin]

i find it funny that were told to not colleberate in college with other students and come up with the same answers and instead told to not grasp ideas with others.

Schools are so dumb sometimes.

[achiam]

akbar's classes are also hard to cheat on. He is so smart at catching ppl who cheat. He sets one or 2 TAs at the back while himself patrols around the class.

Yup. That's what I did when I invigilated undergrad midterms. I would always see guys cheating at the back, and when they saw me eyeing them they quickly looked down. I didn't want to bust them and potentially have their lives fucked over so in subsequent exams I just sat at the back so none of them could see me.

[smaggs]

If you gave him your solutions, then you're just as much at fault of cheating and both of you should be punished. If he isn't bright enough to figure out the answers (econ 345 is NOT rocket science...), then he probably isn't bright enough to re-word your solutions.

If he's your friend and you want to help him out, then help him out by verbally explaining how you get the solutions. It will let yourself understand the concepts more anyway by having to explain them to someone not as bright.

Might be a bit harsh but I got no sympathy for people that cheat!

[kchansan]

yeh show remorse and just say how ud never do it again and that you shouldnt have in the first place.

do whatever you can to get yourself away from it cuz shit like that stays on your record forever.