[Araaadi]

Hey so i got my car lowered yesterday and everything was fine but on my way to wings it started to screech. Anyone that could help trouble shoot or could come to wings on North road would be a life saver. Please text me at 778 838 6536.


Ps. Will reward with some wings.
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[HondaGuy]

Care to clarify where the screech came from?

Few ideas: did you do alignment? On lowered springs, shocks, coilovers? Poor installation? Did you hit a pothole where you bottomed out? All wheel nuts torqued down correctly, car vibrates?

Keep us posted.

[Araaadi]

screech is comming from drivers front wheel, i think. Its a 2011 civic professionally lowered on buddy clubs n+ i had only minor rubbing when turning and bumps, didnt hit any potholes, screeching just randomly started. Wheel seems to be on tight.
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[Grim]

if it was a scrapping noise, or knocking.. that would make more sense..
but a screech???
hard to imagine. is it a consistent screech? low/high tone? more details pls

[Araaadi]

very high screech, only happens when in motion maybe the rim is scratching something?
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[Alatar]

Does it happen when you just give the car some RPMs at stops? Or only when in motion?

[ruthless]

Did u try messing with the fenderliner as you stated in your build thread? Maybe its loose?

[!Aznboi128]

Maybe just maybe theres something touching the brake disc?

high pitch will generally metal on metal contact, do you smell burning?

[smaggs]

Rock stuck behind the brake rotor shield?

[LenovoTurbo]

Might have accidently bent the dust shield on the rotor?

[Araaadi]

fender liner is in place. How do i check the rotor? Is it safe to drive on?
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[Nvasion]

cehck your dust shield if you bent it maybe...

[LenovoTurbo]

If you are near home, limp home slowly. If not, use your emergency jack and jack up the vehicle and spin the wheel by hand to see if it still screeches. Remove the wheel and just visually look to see if there were any signs of rubbing.

[ruthless]

The Car in question:
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/a-radi69/DSC01249.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/a-radi69/DSC01252.jpg
You can kind of see the rotor in this pic
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/a-radi69/DSC01257.jpg

[fliptuner]

See that metal dust sheild behind the rotor? Check if it's touching the rotor. If it is, just push it away a bit.

[TypeRNammer]

Possibly a very tiny pebble between the brake pad and brake disk?

Happen to me on my EP3

[HondaGuy]

Good points.
Once I got my wheels painted and 2 nuts were not torqued accordingly, it screeched when I was braking.

Check also into dust shield, fender lining ( but that shouldnt be the problem ), or even the caliper and rotor arent secure causing slight vibration.

[loong]

Definitely check the dust shield. I had the same problem before. Just crank the wheel to the right/left and wiggle the dust shield back and forth. Drive around and repeat if necessary.

[smaggs]

I really hope it's something behind the dust shield....wings meet on Araaadi!

[Araaadi]

Took off the wheel and cleaned behind the dust shield, screeching seemed to stop. Thanks a lot. Ill update when i drive again later.
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[LIKEABOSS]

Hope everything turns out okay!

Really nice car you have there btw! :D What wheels are those?

[bigzz786786]

if there is still a screech

another thing is to check the brake pad tabs, sometimes they are not put in place fully and can pop out

i had that issue and when ever i took a turn i could hear the screeching noise

[mmmk]

If there are weights on the rims from balancing the tires, try removing them for the time being. I had a similar problem before.

[Araaadi]

So after cleaning the dust shield, the screeching is 100% gone. I have the worst luck with pebbles, first one was stuck in my rotor like 3 months ago. 2 months ago I had similar screeching for like a block and it just went away.

[Araaadi]

Hope everything turns out okay!

Really nice car you have there btw! :D What wheels are those?

They're XXR 527's

[HondaGuy]

Glad to hear things went well araadi.

[GabAlmighty]

Another job well done.

[Araaadi]

Reviving this thread, so since I got my coilovers installed they has been a rattling sound, it was very minor. Just last night it has been very loud and sounds like its been coming from the front two suspension. The shop i got it installed at is busy till sometime next week. Anyone with experience think they can offer a hand on finding the source of the rattle?

[Jin]

easiest thing to check, would be the nuts on top of each coilover. sometimes the nut isnt tight from factory and it loosens itself over time. its happened to me before. I think its a 14mm for most coils.

[Raid3n]

ya, check all the bolts are tight, check to see if the spring is loose in the seat as well.

[Araaadi]

I bought some wrenches at walmart, they seemed pretty snug already, but I went ahead and tightened them a little more. It seems to be quieter. Heres some pics of the set up.

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/a-radi69/2012-04-21225513.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/a-radi69/2012-04-21225509.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/a-radi69/2012-04-21225248.jpg
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/a-radi69/2012-04-21225239.jpg

[Araaadi]

Relp, the rattle is still there. Not quite sure on what it could be. I hope i don't have to go back to stock =(

[GabAlmighty]

If I tried to source every rattle/clunk/noise in my cars... I'd never get anything done haha.

[Araaadi]

If I tried to source every rattle/clunk/noise in my cars... I'd never get anything done haha.

Yea but for a brand new car with the only mod being coilovers, it shouldn't rattle like how it is. I found a guy with a similar problem, but mine doesn't sound as extreme as his. coilover rattling sound - YouTube

[falcon]

Wheel bearing. or steering rack is loose. a friend of mine races the same civic you have at mission and and autoX and his steering rack clunks like that. Not sure what he did to fix it.

[Duff Beer]

Are you sure it's coming from the suspension, not brakes? I had my past Accord's brakes making metal-to-metal noise

[Araaadi]

UPDATE: So the source of the rattle is from the top nut, like suggested here. I keep on tightening the top nut to the best of my ability, but a day or so later it's loose and the rattle starts again. Anyone know how to fix it permanently?

[fliptuner]

top nut as in for the top of the strut?

does it have a lock washer under it?

[dru]

You can always screw another nut on if there is room at the top, or you can use blue locktite?

[fliptuner]

Was going to suggest double-nutting it but I doubt there's access to the lower one when he wants to take it off and it's going to be a pita.

[Jin]

UPDATE: So the source of the rattle is from the top nut, like suggested here. I keep on tightening the top nut to the best of my ability, but a day or so later it's loose and the rattle starts again. Anyone know how to fix it permanently?

who did the install for you? why not take it back there?

also what coils are those? (they look like buddy clubs?) do these use the stock top hat, or did it come with them already pre-assembled?

an option could be to loctite them, but I would recommend getting them checked out by the shop that did the install first before you proceed if you wanna go that method.

[MindBomber]

UPDATE: So the source of the rattle is from the top nut, like suggested here. I keep on tightening the top nut to the best of my ability, but a day or so later it's loose and the rattle starts again. Anyone know how to fix it permanently?

Most often that would be a result of not applying adequate torque.

[Araaadi]

top nut as in for the top of the strut?

does it have a lock washer under it?

Yea top of the strut, and yea there is a washer under it.

I got the shop who installed it for me to check it out a few weeks ago. They believed it was just the noises from the coil-overs. I am thinking of trying to double nut it today before my drive up to whistler. Is it okay for me to remove the original nut and replace it ? As of now when ever I tighten it, I would get like 2 days or silence then back to the rattle. Getting very irritated.

[lowside67]

I would replace the nut with an equally sized nylock nut. With a new nylock nut there should be no reason to use loc-tite although a few drops of blue would help guarantee that thing would never unintentionally come off without making it impossible to ever remove. And that nut should be installed with a torque wrench to the recommended setting, not just to how tight you "think" it should be!

http://maharashtrafasteners.co.in/Product/nylock-nuts.jpg

Mark

[dru]

FYI you can pick up those nuts at home depot in the hardware section. I was just there yesterday. I think it was 80 odd cents or something like that.

[lowside67]

Highly depends on the size, and I guarantee not a high quality grade either. You are in Burnaby, you should be going to:

Pacific Fasteners
3934 E 1st. Ave
Burnaby, BC

(604) 294-9411

Make sure to take your old nut in with you.

The "Blue" I referred to is Loctite Blue (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/SpecialtyTools/TapeGlueSealants/PRD~0670036P/Loctite+Threadlocker+Blue+242+Adhesive.jsp?locale= en) which is the medium strength. If you put the red (max strength) on you run the risk of not being able to get them off again.

The torque spec when you install these nuts is KEY though so look it up and use a good torque wrench!

Mark

[Araaadi]

okay thanks a lot. Ill run and grab the nuts now and install them when i get a proper torque wrench.

[Araaadi]

pacific fastners didn't have my size apprently its 9/16 insidee and 19mm out

[lowside67]

pacific fastners didn't have my size apprently its 9/16 insidee and 19mm out

It seems SUPER unlikely that it is a standard (imperial) bolt that has a metric outer size. I would bet money that it is a Metric bolt, inside and out.

Mark

[Redlines_Daily]

wow, its awesome to see members help out a fellow RS'er. Good advice boys, it's threads like this that make RS so great.

[Araaadi]

so the only place i could find a bolt was honda, for $20 for two. =O
I went to bc fastners, lordco, pacific fastners, burnaby auto parts. Found it at honda the correct nut is 19mm outside, and 12mm inside with a fine thread. At honda i found 17mm outside 12mm inside and its fine thread too. Tried to take off the old nut but the macpherson strut just rotates with the nut. I gave up and made an appointment with the shop that installed it to give it another check.

[lowside67]

Is the new Honda part a nylock? Also, if you call Pacific back and tell them you are looking for a 12mm fine thread nut, they should have one. The diameter of the outside doesn't matter at all, as long as it threads on properly.

Mark

[joquio]

hmmm they look like my old buddy club coilovers......:suspicious:

As others have said, it's probably the top hats.....good luck on getting locking nuts.
Sorry that my coilovers are trolling you :troll:

[Araaadi]

Yea the new honda ones are nylocks. Ill give pacific a call on monday, in whistler for the weekend. Hopefully things go well on thursday.


Joquio, who did you sell your coils to? I bought them off a member with an username with sweet in it.

[joquio]

Yeah, must be that guy then since the guy I sold to was from RS.

I had rattling sound coming from the front when I put in new Tokico shocks and Eibach springs.
Turned out it was the nut in the center of the top hat that wasn't all the way screwed down. I had to take the shock and spring out again and compress the spring in order to tighten down the nut all the way. Then the sound went away.

But yours is a coilover set so it shouldn't have that problem. I never had rattling sound coming from the front suspension when I had it on my car.

[Araaadi]

Yeah, must be that guy then since the guy I sold to was from RS.

I had rattling sound coming from the front when I put in new Tokico shocks and Eibach springs.
Turned out it was the nut in the center of the top hat that wasn't all the way screwed down. I had to take the shock and spring out again and compress the spring in order to tighten down the nut all the way. Then the sound went away.

But yours is a coilover set so it shouldn't have that problem. I never had rattling sound coming from the front suspension when I had it on my car.

I can't stand the guy who sold me the coil-overs. Hes on my shit list if I ever do see him.

Hopefully they can fix it on Wednesday, so tired of the rattle.

[!Yaminashi]

That rattling sounds similar to what I'm experiencing right now, however I think its because that particular corner is worn prematurely. When I go over bumps slowly I can definitely feel a difference with that strut and the rest

[Araaadi]

That rattling sounds similar to what I'm experiencing right now, however I think its because that particular corner is worn prematurely. When I go over bumps slowly I can definitely feel a difference with that strut and the rest

So you're thinking you'll be needing new coils soon?



So I took it to the shop today, They put nylock nuts on it, then double nutted it, and I believe some lock tie too. The noise came back 2 minutes after leaving the shop. I am irritated beyond belief, to the point where I do not enjoy driving my baby anymore =(. Debating just buying new coils and tossing these up for sale, or just going back to stock.

[Araaadi]

Update took it to another shop for a second opinion.

I feel ripped off by the shop because I paid $80 for a 20minute inspection when I was told $80 an hour. They told me either the top bushings need to be replaced or the top assembly.
I messaged buddy club and so did the shop for a quote on replacement parts.

[Araaadi]

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[smoothie.]

Unfortunately I've found when the car isnt stock, some minor issues happen.

You'll find and fix it soon and not worry about it again.