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03-15-2012, 05:58 AM
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| GOOD news for the new entrants in the wireless section
Wireless market in Canada opens to new carriers - thestar.com
1 - Canadian Government sets cap on the new 700mhz spectrum and also for the 2500mhz spectrum.. which is good new for Wind, Mobi and Public. Canada's telecom sector now open to foreign cash
2 - Canadian Government opens foreign investment rules for new compants with less then 10% market revenue..
This is very exciting news... which means better service from Wind, Mobi and Public mobile and LOWER prices..
Looks like Winds LTE service will be coming SOOON...
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03-15-2012, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by FerrariEnzo  | It won't be as soon as you think...These policies take a long time to be created and an equal amount of time to be implemented; especially for a company like Wind. It will be at least a year till Wind has LTE service; at which point, I'm sure the next phase of high speed will already be available lol.
I'm not really sure if this means better service and better pricing or simply more opportunities for small companies to like Wind to attract customers. These companies have cheap price plans but that is because they know that joining Wind comes at a cost; poor service. Increased service will likely result in increased price plans.
And in all honestly, we complain about our price plans here in Canada but if we look south of the border, it's clear that we've surpassed our American neighbours in coverage and affordability. No longer in the states can you get unlimited plans that are inexpensive unless you join a company like Cricket (their equivalent of Wind Mobile) which has an equal amount of network/service problems :S
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03-15-2012, 09:44 AM
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even so, i think it'll definitely help with pricing because now the big 3 really do have to worry about competition
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03-15-2012, 10:21 AM
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03-15-2012, 10:54 AM
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From the looks of it wind will probably be the only other provider besides TELUS, Bell and Rogers to be able to buy into the 700Mhz spectrum.
The article states "The changes to the auction rules will let at least four companies obtain spectrum in each of Canada’s 14 licence areas, effectively making one block available for one of the smaller players."
I dont think this news impacts the big three really at all.
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03-15-2012, 01:01 PM
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03-15-2012, 01:54 PM
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It will make a difference in a variety of environments:
With these new foreign restrictions lifted, any player can come up in and scoop up all of the allocated 25% of spectrum, and compete against the big 3 for the other 75% in the "open" market, provided that it makes economic sense for the new entrant. China Telecom, China's state-owned telecommunication company has long set their eyes on Public Mobile and for global expansion. I will not be surprised if they try to set foot in the door considering that their capital is limitless.
With only 25% of the spectrum available for new carriers, there is only enough spectrum for 1 entrant to become a national carrier with LTE 700MHz, in addition to joining alliance with other regional carriers like MTS, Videotron, and SaskTel.
As much as Mobilicity and Wind had previously said that they won't bid unless there is a spectrum set-aside. They must and will bid, though one may possibly be merged with the other or hypothetically speaking, both may be acquired by a foreign company, and still don't make up 10% of the market share. A lot of possible outcomes can result from yesterday's announcement up to the auction. It will definitely be interesting to say the least.
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03-16-2012, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bcrdukes This will make no difference. | you say this now, wait til Wind get the ball rolling... the only reason they are where they are now is because of these crazy rules..
now the cap is there and the foreign investment rules is soften, Im sure Wind can make big changes..
The 700mhz spectrum is the money ball.. if Wind can take all of what they can, they can give the big 3 a run for the money... Mobi doesnt seem to have such a big investor backing them yet but Im sure there is something in the works... Quote:
Originally Posted by willystyle China Telecom, China's state-owned telecommunication company has long set their eyes on Public Mobile and for global expansion. I will not be surprised if they try to set foot in the door considering that their capital is limitless. | Public Mobile paid $52 million to purchase PCS G Band spectrum... lol they are the only ones to use this sepctrum... I doubt they can compete on a national carrier level.. even they bough some 700mhz, it be difficult to cover canada.. thats if Wind/Mobi doesnt buy any 700mhz, but they be killing themselves if they dont bid...
It make more sense if China Telecom invested in Mobi or even have a dual partnership with the Egyptian owner and bring up Winds capital...
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03-16-2012, 07:34 AM
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would this mean Id be able to use my iphone on wind?
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03-16-2012, 12:21 PM
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Galaxy Nexus > iphone..
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03-16-2012, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FerrariEnzo Public Mobile paid $52 million to purchase PCS G Band spectrum... lol they are the only ones to use this sepctrum... I doubt they can compete on a national carrier level.. even they bough some 700mhz, it be difficult to cover canada.. thats if Wind/Mobi doesnt buy any 700mhz, but they be killing themselves if they dont bid...
It make more sense if China Telecom invested in Mobi or even have a dual partnership with the Egyptian owner and bring up Winds capital... | I was only making a point that China Telecom was interested in Public Mobile, and that source was from last year. With the current rules in place, it changes EVERYTHING. If I were China Telecom, I'd buy out BOTH Wind and Mobilicity, then compete with Big 3. There's no point in acquiring a smaller player first then take on WindiCity. On the flipside, WIND might be able to get lots of investment from foreign players to buy out most of the 25% of spectrum. Who knows, it's like trying to forecast the weather, there are currently too many variables at play. Quote:
Originally Posted by Glove would this mean Id be able to use my iphone on wind? | If either Wind or Mobilicity can get their hands on most of the 700MHz spectrum at the upcoming auction then yes. The upcoming iPhone 5/6/7, whatever you want to call it, will work cause Verizon and AT&T in the states uses this spectrum.
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03-16-2012, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FerrariEnzo you say this now, wait til Wind get the ball rolling... the only reason they are where they are now is because of these crazy rules.. | Could you elaborate on this, please? Just so everybody understands where you're coming from and that there are no misunderstandings. I'm curious to know what you mean by "the only reason they are there they are now is because of these crazy rules..." Quote: |
now the cap is there and the foreign investment rules is soften, Im sure Wind can make big changes..
| What does foreign investment have to do with how well they do as a competitor to the market, especially up against the Big 3? Quote: |
The 700mhz spectrum is the money ball.. if Wind can take all of what they can, they can give the big 3 a run for the money... Mobi doesnt seem to have such a big investor backing them yet but Im sure there is something in the works...
| How does the 700Mhz spectrum determine whether or not it will help Wind or the other players? How does it help the consumer in the long run?
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03-16-2012, 02:32 PM
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wouldn't be awesome if Wind received a capital infusion and outbid the big 3. that for sure would signal some serious price war coming up.
one can only dream.
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03-16-2012, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bcrdukes Could you elaborate on this, please? Just so everybody understands where you're coming from and that there are no misunderstandings. I'm curious to know what you mean by "the only reason they are there they are now is because of these crazy rules..."
What does foreign investment have to do with how well they do as a competitor to the market, especially up against the Big 3?
How does the 700Mhz spectrum determine whether or not it will help Wind or the other players? How does it help the consumer in the long run? | When Wind started, the big 3 were filing complaints that Winds mayor ownership was not of Canadian origin.. so for the the majority of their first year was lagging because they were also battling CRTC for this reason..
Winds source of income came from an Egyptian telecom giant.
the 700mhz spectrum is sought as the best spectrum as its a low frequency that can penetrate buildings better.. the main reason why the big 3 has good coverage is their 850/900 mhz spectrum while Wind/Mobi runs it on 1700mhz...
If Mobi doesnt come up with a big investor, im sure Wind will grab as much as they can...
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03-17-2012, 12:54 AM
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Post edited.
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03-17-2012, 01:17 AM
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^ I was actually planning to respond with a few of my points, but since you decided to revise your post. I figure that there's no sense in me to try to establish my argument.
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03-17-2012, 01:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Glove would this mean Id be able to use my iphone on wind? | Considering no iphone here currently uses 700mhz yet the answer is no.
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03-17-2012, 03:18 AM
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virgin already has LTE service 
winds just busy getting hspa etc implemented
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03-17-2012, 11:05 AM
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How do you regulate a company to keep it's revenues below 10% market share???
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03-17-2012, 05:23 PM
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The new rules restricts a foreign player from acquiring a company that exceed 10% market share. It doesn't say the foreign-acquired business cannot organically grow over 10% market share.
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03-18-2012, 09:44 AM
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what willy said
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