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i-VTEC
03-21-2012, 12:30 PM
My gf drives a Corolla, I drive a Civic.

Nowadays, gas price is so high, we alternate once pre week going down to PR to get gas. (This week, My car gets filled, Next week her car gets filled)

We were thinking about buying 2x 20L(Civic/Corolla is only 50L) Gas Can in Canadian Tire and bring back to fill the other car. So we don't have to go every week but just once every 2 weeks.

My question is

1. If we bring 40L of Gas in 2x Gas Can, do we need to declare or say anything to the border guards?

2. If we do need to, will we get taxed?

Thanks RS

donjalapeno
03-21-2012, 12:36 PM
I've seen a Asian family with 2x10L 3x5L and 2x20L


I'm sure you will be fine

Presto
03-21-2012, 12:37 PM
1. Anything purchased in the states, and brought back, has to be declared

2. Maybe. It's up to the guard. The gas in the cans isn't exempt.

jpark
03-21-2012, 12:37 PM
just tell them the truth.. you will be fine

fishCak3s
03-21-2012, 12:38 PM
General-Frequently Asked Questions (http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/help-aide/faq1-eng.html)

" 5.What duties will I have to pay? Am I responsible for the GST/HST?
Unless exempt, all commercial goods entering Canada are subject to customs duty and the goods and services tax/harmonized sales tax (GST/HST). Depending on the goods or their value, other charges or taxes may apply including excise duty on items such as tobacco products and excise tax on items such as gasoline, diesel fuel and air conditioners for motor vehicles."

Also, it could be dangerous for you to have that much fuel in your car if anything happens during the trip.

i-VTEC
03-21-2012, 12:40 PM
We live in Richmond, 30~40 minutes from PR, we'll drive extra slow and around 8 oclock pm time, less traffic :smug:

General-Frequently Asked Questions (http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/help-aide/faq1-eng.html)

" 5.What duties will I have to pay? Am I responsible for the GST/HST?
Unless exempt, all commercial goods entering Canada are subject to customs duty and the goods and services tax/harmonized sales tax (GST/HST). Depending on the goods or their value, other charges or taxes may apply including excise duty on items such as tobacco products and excise tax on items such as gasoline, diesel fuel and air conditioners for motor vehicles."

Also, it could be dangerous for you to have that much fuel in your car if anything happens during the trip.

i-VTEC
03-21-2012, 12:44 PM
1. Anything purchased in the states, and brought back, has to be declared

2. Maybe. It's up to the guard. The gas in the cans isn't exempt.

I guess its depend on the guard's mood

40L of gas is about $45~$50 CDN

its about $6 of HST Tax and will the guard care that much of $6

:alone:

Or is it not calculate that way?

z3german
03-21-2012, 12:45 PM
I did it just fine, i use tricky could be mistaken tactics though.
Boarder: "What did you buy?"
me: "just filled up my tanks with gas."

bwhaha so if they do search and find the 2x20L i have in the trunk i just tell them i told the guard i filled them up, and next time ill be more specific. but havnt had to do that yet :)

NLY
03-21-2012, 12:48 PM
It's not worth the hassle to not declare the gas. I've made trips to fill up weekly for the past couple of months and have no issues with bringing back jerry cans.

i-VTEC
03-21-2012, 12:53 PM
I did it just fine, i use tricky could be mistaken tactics though.
Boarder: "What did you buy?"
me: "just filled up my tanks with gas."

bwhaha so if they do search and find the 2x20L i have in the trunk i just tell them i told the guard i filled them up, and next time ill be more specific. but havnt had to do that yet :)

Well, me and my gf been down there 10 + times now, they haven't search our car,

They always ask, Where you live
Point of the trip
What did you buy
Did you buy anything from duty free shop

those are the 4 questions every time

Also usually the guy border guy are nicer, woman guard are meh man-ish :whistle:

i-VTEC
03-21-2012, 12:54 PM
My 3 Q. How do Canada Border Custom Tax you?

Price of the item * HST(1.12) = the $ u pay?

z3german
03-21-2012, 12:58 PM
Well, me and my gf been down there 10 + times now, they haven't search our car,

They always ask, Where you live
Point of the trip
What did you buy
Did you buy anything from duty free shop

those are the 4 questions every time

Also usually the guy border guy are nicer, woman guard are meh man-ish :whistle:

I feel they are all so lax, ive never talked to a guard for longer than a minute :) compared to the peace arch guards where they searched me and asked if i take any drugs. pleaded the fifth and they gave me the fucking hardest time ever. :rukidding:

1exotic
03-21-2012, 01:02 PM
People complaining about gas prices and driving a Civic and Corolla? lol.

godwin
03-21-2012, 01:04 PM
Price of item in Cdn and HST which is 0.12 not 1.12 + any applicable duty.

My 3 Q. How do Canada Border Custom Tax you?

Price of the item * HST(1.12) = the $ u pay?

BrRsn
03-21-2012, 01:05 PM
I guess its depend on the guard's mood

40L of gas is about $45~$50 CDN

its about $6 of HST Tax and will the guard care that much of $6

:alone:

Or is it not calculate that way?

Its applicable taxes .. I believe all taxes combined work out to about $0.35/liter. If you do get taxed, the tax on 40 Liters is about $14 dollars.

Usually you can get by the border with a $100 purchase (which will net them about $12 of tax) ....

BTW PR guards will routinely open your trunk to check for jerry cans. Be honest, they won't bust your ass over $14 of tax.

i-VTEC
03-21-2012, 01:13 PM
People complaining about gas prices and driving a Civic and Corolla? lol.

Every time you fill up in the States Vs Canada, you saved about $10~$15

It adds up.

You fill up 3 times in the States, the next tank is pretty much free. In Canada is the same as filling 4.

Doesn't matter what car you drive. Would you rather pay buy 3 get 1 free or buy 4

Not everyone born into a rich family, but we do what we can to save up.

I lol at you for having poor financial planning on some of the basic you can save up.

Every dollar adds up, and even every penny adds up.

Have you ever seen the movie where this guy stole a penny from every bank accounts which in the ends it adds up to more than a Million dollar

However, if you are some one who depends on your family's money, I lol at you for failing in life

:accepted:

UFO
03-21-2012, 01:33 PM
^We have a Fit and a Yaris :D To save more money, buy your jerry can in the US, Fred Meyer or Walmart should be under $10 for a 5 gallon can.

The last couple times I've been down to PR to pick up packages, I just fill up the 1 can we have. Next time I'm in Bellingham I'm going to pick up another can. 2 cans should be fine to bring back without any trouble since I've seen people fill up 4+ 5 gallon cans and I'm assuming they do it somewhat regularly. We haven't been pulled in for <$250/person on a daytrip in 3+ years.

Its pretty hard for me to justify going down just for gas, since I calculate that it will cost me about $7 in gas and about 2 hours of my time to make the return trip from Kits. So if I save $0.25/L on a 40L tank, its a $10 savings which is really only an actual $3 savings including my gas consumed on the trip. With 2 jerry cans on top, it will be a ~$13 savings which is more significant, but I'd like to think my time is worth more than $7/hr lol. But if I have a package to pick up, may as well get some cheap gas

CP.AR
03-21-2012, 01:37 PM
I just bring a 25L with me occasionally.
Going through the border I just say "Just went down to get gas"... so i guess it's ambiguous enough lol

i-VTEC
03-21-2012, 01:37 PM
^We have a Fit and a Yaris :D To save more money, buy your jerry can in the US, Fred Meyer or Walmart should be under $10 for a 5 gallon can.

The last couple times I've been down to PR to pick up packages, I just fill up the 1 can we have. Next time I'm in Bellingham I'm going to pick up another can. 2 cans should be fine to bring back without any trouble since I've seen people fill up 4+ 5 gallon cans and I'm assuming they do it somewhat regularly. We haven't been pulled in for <$250/person on a daytrip in 3+ years.

Its pretty hard for me to justify going down just for gas, since I calculate that it will cost me about $7 in gas and about 2 hours of my time to make the return trip from Kits. So if I save $0.25/L on a 40L tank, its a $10 savings which is really only an actual $3 savings including my gas consumed on the trip. With 2 jerry cans on top, it will be a ~$13 savings which is more significant, but I'd like to think my time is worth more than $7/hr lol. But if I have a package to pick up, may as well get some cheap gas

Also buying Milk + Eggs will save on your grocery bill even more.

Gridlock
03-21-2012, 01:45 PM
Also buying Milk + Eggs will save on your grocery bill even more.

You couldn't pay me to regularly consume US milk. Not worth the savings in my opinion.

1exotic
03-21-2012, 02:27 PM
Every time you fill up in the States Vs Canada, you saved about $10~$15

It adds up.

You fill up 3 times in the States, the next tank is pretty much free. In Canada is the same as filling 4.

Doesn't matter what car you drive. Would you rather pay buy 3 get 1 free or buy 4

Not everyone born into a rich family, but we do what we can to save up.

I lol at you for having poor financial planning on some of the basic you can save up.

Every dollar adds up, and even every penny adds up.

Have you ever seen the movie where this guy stole a penny from every bank accounts which in the ends it adds up to more than a Million dollar

However, if you are some one who depends on your family's money, I lol at you for failing in life

:accepted:

tl;dr

BrRsn
03-21-2012, 02:35 PM
tl;dr

Eh you were just poking fun at the fact that gas prices are so shit right now that even civic + corolla drivers are feeling the effects.

He went off on some tangent about the value of money/saving/spending parents money vs your own.

Frugality does not make you better than another person so there's no need to talk down. Someone could tell you that you have no money sense because you spend 2 hours saving $20-$30 when you could be working and making more lol.
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bcrdukes
03-21-2012, 02:40 PM
If savings is an issue, perhaps you and your girlfriend should consider alternative means of transportation such as public transit and/or bicycling.

i-VTEC
03-21-2012, 02:44 PM
Eh you were just poking fun at the fact that gas prices are so shit right now that even civic + corolla drivers are feeling the effects.

He went off on some tangent about the value of money/saving/spending parents money vs your own.

Frugality does not make you better than another person so there's no need to talk down. Someone could tell you that you have no money sense because you spend 2 hours saving $20-$30 when you could be working and making more lol.
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It only takes 1 hour back and forth to go PR and back.

I'm 22, with only a certificate, working on my bachelor nightly base, already have a full-time job, making 40K / year been working for a year now.

paid for purchasing my car, paying for rent, paying for grocery, paying for tuition and etc...

Every pennies count.

i-VTEC
03-21-2012, 02:47 PM
If savings is an issue, perhaps you and your girlfriend should consider alternative means of transportation such as public transit and/or bicycling.

Consider how translink raised their fair cost, how buses are never on time, always full people, people getting sick and coughing, transfer & slow to get to one destination to another.

Sorry, a car would be the better transportation means.

freakshow
03-21-2012, 02:58 PM
Your problem is that you 'lol' at people for having 'poor financial planning' because they can't be bothered to save a few bucks by driving to the states every week.

dhillon is just saying that everyone values their time differently, and you might think its worth it to save a few bucks, but that doesn't mean everyone is like you. You'll understand when you're older.

jdc430
03-21-2012, 03:09 PM
I just got back from my weekly fill up in PR. I take my work truck (100L) and 2 cans (25L ea). I have never ever had the slightest problem with fueling them all up and bringing into Canada.

Today at Can-Am there was a red jeep that must of has 6 fuel cans. The driver and his family were using 3 pumps to fill everything up! :fuckyea:

z3german
03-21-2012, 03:13 PM
Do you guys go to shell? or cheveron just further down the street? or the one just before shell? If so reasons?

CharlieH
03-21-2012, 03:16 PM
i'll fill the car up when i go down to tsb shipping to pick shit up but i'd never drive 30 min each way just to get gas... what a waste of time.

bcrdukes
03-21-2012, 03:20 PM
^
To add to that, a waste of time and effort.

Consider how translink raised their fair cost, how buses are never on time, always full people, people getting sick and coughing, transfer & slow to get to one destination to another.

Sorry, a car would be the better transportation means.

This is a far cry from the truth. Despite the rise in fares, putting to blame how their buses are never on time is a farce. If they were never on time, they'd be getting a lot more flack than they are already getting.

People getting sick, coughing, having to transfer to get to another destination are excuses to justify your reasons of "saving" on purchasing gas in the US. Take the time to sit down with your girlfriend and do some number crunching. Don't be pointing fingers at people for "poor financial planning" when you can't even figure it out yourself.

jdc430
03-21-2012, 03:28 PM
With any car (especially OP case) its barely worth the time and effort. But anything over 100 liters your savings are at least $40. Like CharlieH said, I also have packages waiting at TSB most the time I fill up. And sometimes I'll make a grab a cheap 6pack

CharlieH
03-21-2012, 03:32 PM
i just did a quick search for shits and giggles. i called the chevron at point roberts and their regular is $1.25CAD/L. the chevron on no3 and blundell is $1.43 as of 43 minutes ago. your civic has a 50L fuel tank, which means if you literally COMPLETELY ran out of fuel by the time you got to Point Roberts then you'd save $9 CAD for the cost of 1 hour and roughly 40km of gas consumption.

you lol at 1exotic for having poor financial planning? i lol at you for being a dumbass who drives an hour to save less than 9 dollars.


Chevron Gas Prices - Find the Lowest Gas Prices at Chevron Gas Stations in Vancouver, British Columbia (http://www.vancouvergasprices.com/Chevron_Gas_Stations/index.aspx)

Purely
03-21-2012, 03:39 PM
Other than time, considering you are doing this every week, how much wear and tear are you putting on tyres/car from the extra kms even though it is highway?

jdc430
03-21-2012, 03:44 PM
If OP is driving there to save a few bucks I'm sure hes not filling at Chevron. USA Mini Mart is sometimes 10 cents cheaper per liter than Chevron. Just a thought, still not worth the trip at means. Not to mention the border line ups and if you have Nexus the shitty hours the lane is actually open

smaggs
03-21-2012, 03:46 PM
It not taxable because it's a natural resource, however I was talking to the customs officer the other week about this (i don't do it myself and don't plan to but asked about the legalities of it for curiosity sake) and he mentioned the following:
- you SHOULD have a hazardous materials sticker really considering you're driving around with canisters of gas
- they can't tell you not to bring it over but they are advising against it due to safety reasons...in case it wasn't obvious you're driving around with large amounts of gasoline and if it's in a car the fumes are going to be circulating which isn't exactly good health practice
- if enough people complain and bring the issue forward, there may be legalities introduced on the matter.


Personally, I don't think it's a very smart idea considering the safety aspects and hope they introduce some laws against it!

GoneGuru
03-21-2012, 03:49 PM
Other than time, considering you are doing this every week, how much wear and tear are you putting on tyres/car from the extra kms even though it is highway?

Who cares bro. He makes 40k a year and buys his own groceries. Baus.

bobbyhill
03-21-2012, 03:52 PM
i just did a quick search for shits and giggles. i called the chevron at point roberts and their regular is $1.25CAD/L. the chevron on no3 and blundell is $1.43 as of 43 minutes ago. your civic has a 50L fuel tank, which means if you literally COMPLETELY ran out of fuel by the time you got to Point Roberts then you'd save $9 CAD for the cost of 1 hour and roughly 40km of gas consumption.

you lol at 1exotic for having poor financial planning? i lol at you for being a dumbass who drives an hour to save less than 9 dollars.


Chevron Gas Prices - Find the Lowest Gas Prices at Chevron Gas Stations in Vancouver, British Columbia (http://www.vancouvergasprices.com/Chevron_Gas_Stations/index.aspx)

brb nexus to cross the border in 30s
brb gas savings + jerry cans
brb picking up merchandise w/ savings (on both retail AND shipping)
brb 0% tax on groceries

!Kodamu
03-21-2012, 04:24 PM
if you use regular gas then it's not worth it. But if you need supreme then that is totally different.
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UFO
03-21-2012, 04:30 PM
Someone could tell you that you have no money sense because you spend 2 hours saving $20-$30 when you could be working and making more lol.
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The problem with that logic is that you are assuming he is taking time off work to make that trip. If I make 40k/yr=20/hr, my time is worth 20/hr while I'm at work. It's not worth 20/hr while I'm making dinner, while I'm sleeping, while I'm out buying groceries or gas.

Even with cheap groceries in Bellingham, its not worth my time and effort to go down regularly for gas and groceries. But once a month or two we'll make a day of it and just do general shopping. Stuff gets shipped to PR somewhat regularly, so I'll time my gas needs with when I pick up my stuff.

UFO
03-21-2012, 04:40 PM
It not taxable because it's a natural resource, however I was talking to the customs officer the other week about this (i don't do it myself and don't plan to but asked about the legalities of it for curiosity sake) and he mentioned the following:
- you SHOULD have a hazardous materials sticker really considering you're driving around with canisters of gas
- they can't tell you not to bring it over but they are advising against it due to safety reasons...in case it wasn't obvious you're driving around with large amounts of gasoline and if it's in a car the fumes are going to be circulating which isn't exactly good health practice
- if enough people complain and bring the issue forward, there may be legalities introduced on the matter.


Personally, I don't think it's a very smart idea considering the safety aspects and hope they introduce some laws against it!

1. I'd recommend you check your sources. Gas can be charged tax AND duties

2. I don't fully disagree with your safety concerns, but jerry cans are made specifically for gas to minimize fuel evaporation and withstand some level of physical abuse. It's not like people are filling empty milk jugs with gas.

1exotic
03-21-2012, 05:07 PM
COME AT ME BRO - YouTube

smaggs
03-21-2012, 05:18 PM
1. I'd recommend you check your sources. Gas can be charged tax AND duties

2. I don't fully disagree with your safety concerns, but jerry cans are made specifically for gas to minimize fuel evaporation and withstand some level of physical abuse. It's not like people are filling empty milk jugs with gas.

Here's my source, but correct me if i'm not reading it correctly, please!
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/trade-commerce/tariff-tarif/2008/01-99/ch27-eng.pdf

edit: section 27-4

- kT
03-21-2012, 05:23 PM
i go and fill up 4 jerry cans all the time. the larger sized ones. forget what L or G they are but i just toss them in my trunk. sometimes i declare them, sometimes i tell the guards i got gas - which still isn't a lie. never had any problems, but i usually go when i know there isn't going to be any traffic or lineups anywhere - in other words, in the wee hours of the morning

UFO
03-21-2012, 05:39 PM
Here's my source, but correct me if i'm not reading it correctly, please!
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/trade-commerce/tariff-tarif/2008/01-99/ch27-eng.pdf

edit: section 27-4

I was always under the impression that there was some duty associated with gas, which your list shows is not the case.

However these are the taxes applicable to gas which CBSA is entitled to collect if they so choose:

British Columbia
36.508¢
GST + Includes carbon tax of 5.56 ¢/L as of July 1, 2011 (scheduled to rise to 6.95 ¢/L on July 1, 2012).
Canada Gasoline Tax Information - Ontario Gas Prices (http://ontariogasprices.com/can_tax_info.aspx)

mmmk
03-21-2012, 06:26 PM
I just bring a 25L with me occasionally.
Going through the border I just say "Just went down to get gas"... so i guess it's ambiguous enough lol

This response to a CBSA officer is perfectly fine :fuckyea:

hirevtuner
03-21-2012, 06:56 PM
i got get gas about every 3 weeks with 2 big jerry cans, I think based on current gas prices, I save around $25 give or take, but I would make it worth it by picking up some stuff I ordered from TSB even though it takes me about 30 mins to get there

GabAlmighty
03-21-2012, 07:13 PM
Fuck, so many good threads lately.

Bahhbeehhaaaa
03-21-2012, 07:26 PM
I LOL AT YOU for making POOR FINANCIAL DECISIONS! if you really want to be economical conservative, u should buy a 1993 civic for $2000. Here's some basic math, your civic (2006) up @ $15,000. 15,000-2000= $13,000 you are left with 13 grand to spend on gas for the next 4-6 years.

Every time you fill up in the States Vs Canada, you saved about $10~$15

It adds up.

You fill up 3 times in the States, the next tank is pretty much free. In Canada is the same as filling 4.

Doesn't matter what car you drive. Would you rather pay buy 3 get 1 free or buy 4

Not everyone born into a rich family, but we do what we can to save up.

I lol at you for having poor financial planning on some of the basic you can save up.

Every dollar adds up, and even every penny adds up.

Have you ever seen the movie where this guy stole a penny from every bank accounts which in the ends it adds up to more than a Million dollar

However, if you are some one who depends on your family's money, I lol at you for failing in life

:accepted:

dark0821
03-21-2012, 11:36 PM
After reading this thread... I feel like I want to point out that the op did ask a pretty legitimate question, regardless of his financial planing, I don't understand why everyone is bitching at him. It's his choice..l and come on.. He pays for everything himself...and I think that is pretty boss... Considering I am older and still living at home.... So whatever.. If you got the answer to his question... Answer op.. If not than just go on....

/end rant

- kT
03-21-2012, 11:50 PM
just went down tonight. didn't bring jerry cans. price is 121.5 or somewhere in that rough ballpark

funny story, the border patrol on our side (a female too) asked me as she handed me back my passports - "is this the genesis?"

was pretty surprised

SkunkWorks
03-21-2012, 11:51 PM
After reading this thread... I feel like I want to point out that the op did ask a pretty legitimate question, regardless of his financial planing, I don't understand why everyone is bitching at him. It's his choice..l and come on.. He pays for everything himself...and I think that is pretty boss... Considering I am older and still living at home.... So whatever.. If you got the answer to his question... Answer op.. If not than just go on....

/end rant

I think it was OP's 'holier-than-thou' attitude for people who aren't willing to waste an hour every week to save a couple bucks that has everyone reacting.

SpuGen
03-22-2012, 12:46 AM
OP makes 40k a year, and can't afford gas?

Lots of people make way less, and still manage to make car payments, rent, and bills.
Quick example: Lots of single income families live off on 40k/yr. OP lives at home and complains about $9.

Who's the one with poor financial planning?

Eff-1
03-22-2012, 10:47 AM
Every time you fill up in the States Vs Canada, you saved about $10~$15

It adds up.

You fill up 3 times in the States, the next tank is pretty much free. In Canada is the same as filling 4.

Assume...

Gas in Vancouver right now is $1.40
Gas in Point Roberts right now is let's say $1.21

So for the Jerry Cans:

Buy 40L in Point Roberts and you only save $7.60 per can. Just round up to $8.

Buy three cans you save $24. So it's more like fill up SIX times to save $48 and now you are getting close to getting a free tank.

But more importantly:

Assume your Civic takes 50L to fill up. Your fuel mileage is 9L/100 kms. And it's 30kms one-way from Richmond to Point Roberts.

Cost to fill up in Canada = $70.
Cost to fill up in PR = $60.50.
It will cost you $7.05 to drive to and from Point Roberts.

$60.50 + $7.05 - $70 = $2.45 total savings

At least now you can see if it's truly worth it or not.

see.lai
03-22-2012, 10:55 AM
It's worth it if you have a package waiting for you at the post office because you'll be taking advantage of the free/low-cost shipping and the gas.

It's too bad the groceries at Pt.Roberts are similar in pricing to Vancouver. Other than that, yeah I guess you can say it's better to fill up here.

I feel like I'm saving quite a bit though, as I'm filling up with premium. I forgot what premium costs in Pt.Roberts, but it's more than $1.50 in Vancouver..

Supposedly, it costs me $6-7 to drive there and back. I still save $13, which is more than what I make in an hour. (Keep in mind, I don't mind driving. I'm still a student as well.)

Gas prices will only rise, right? It doesn't hurt to save a bit of money. :concentrate:

TypeRNammer
03-22-2012, 10:57 AM
Is it worth it to drive for cheaper gas? - The Globe and Mail (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/personal-finance/investing-calculators/is-it-worth-to-drive-for-cheaper-gas/article2263849/?utm_medium=Feeds:%20RSS/Atom&utm_source=Home&utm_content=2263849)

Use this link to calculate your savings, I took this off one of the RS members so I can't take any credit for it.

TypeRNammer
03-22-2012, 10:58 AM
OP makes 40k a year, and can't afford gas?


http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/16859146.jpg

:fullofwin:

1exotic
03-22-2012, 01:35 PM
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/16865182.jpg

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artmotion
03-22-2012, 06:55 PM
Assume...

Gas in Vancouver right now is $1.40
Gas in Point Roberts right now is let's say $1.21

So for the Jerry Cans:

Buy 40L in Point Roberts and you only save $7.60 per can. Just round up to $8.

Buy three cans you save $24. So it's more like fill up SIX times to save $48 and now you are getting close to getting a free tank.

But more importantly:

Assume your Civic takes 50L to fill up. Your fuel mileage is 9L/100 kms. And it's 30kms one-way from Richmond to Point Roberts.

Cost to fill up in Canada = $70.
Cost to fill up in PR = $60.50.
It will cost you $7.05 to drive to and from Point Roberts.

$60.50 + $7.05 - $70 = $2.45 total savings

At least now you can see if it's truly worth it or not.

This is one of the few pros of me living in Ladner since it's barely out of my way haha. Also! Pro tip! If you go to International Marketplace, you can buy beer for about half the price of what you would pay in Canada and if you buy eggs a flat of Jumbo eggs, they're only about $4.50 IIRC.

But in the end... I still live in Ladner... :alone:

Sky_High
03-22-2012, 08:20 PM
Assume...

Gas in Vancouver right now is $1.40
Gas in Point Roberts right now is let's say $1.21

So for the Jerry Cans:

Buy 40L in Point Roberts and you only save $7.60 per can. Just round up to $8.

Buy three cans you save $24. So it's more like fill up SIX times to save $48 and now you are getting close to getting a free tank.

But more importantly:

Assume your Civic takes 50L to fill up. Your fuel mileage is 9L/100 kms. And it's 30kms one-way from Richmond to Point Roberts.

Cost to fill up in Canada = $70.
Cost to fill up in PR = $60.50.
It will cost you $7.05 to drive to and from Point Roberts.

$60.50 + $7.05 - $70 = $2.45 total savings

At least now you can see if it's truly worth it or not.

A Civic might not get the 5.0L/100km economy as its official number claims....but once you factor in the highway driving, and maybe use a number like 6L/100km....OP might just be able to save $5 for his hour of time :awwyeah:

no_clue
03-22-2012, 09:12 PM
driving to the united states for the sole purpose of buying gas lol

Please add the cost of wear&tear and the most valuable one, TIME.
Also variables such as higher risk of getting into a car accident, or a windshield crack as you are driving a further distance/highway.

Not worth it, even for premium gas.

UFO
03-22-2012, 10:15 PM
^do people still go on drives or cruises anymore? All of the above applies to group drives/cruises, except there is no cheap gas at the destination, yet nobody seems to mind.

To each his own.

Someone should organize an RS cheap gas drive/cruises, then maybe people will get their panties untied from the knot.

Spectre_Cdn
03-22-2012, 10:45 PM
^ RS cruise along 99/George Massey/Hwy 17 + BBQ meet at Lighthouse Marine Park in Pt Roberts? Cheap gas and parcel-pick-ups on the side?

:accepted:

The park/beach there is actually quite nice for picnics and bbq's and there's ample parking. You can even camp overnight, across from the park :alonehappy:

325isMSPORT
03-22-2012, 11:44 PM
idk my friends made this for me http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/16899835.jpg
cause I complain about my gearing (cruising @ 4k going 110km/h 5th gear 2.5 6cyl)

CL typeS
05-18-2012, 10:38 AM
Are the gas stations open 24/7? I know the stores close but what about the pumps

InvisibleSoul
05-18-2012, 10:51 AM
Are the gas stations open 24/7? I know the stores close but what about the pumps

There is one station (Can-Am?) that has 24 hour unattended pumps.

Glove
05-18-2012, 10:51 AM
thats a pretty cool calculator,

I fill up my civic and bring two 20 litre jerries with me,

I go to costco to fill up, its usually around 3.80 a galon, which converts to roughly 1 dollar a litre,

filling up my tank + 2 jerries costs me around 60 bones down there,

filling it up here at 1.40 a litre could cost me around 90 bucks,

the savings are substantial, I havent filled up at a canadian gas station in 6 months, I just go down every 2 weeks and fill up down there.


I suspect the government will do something about it soon though, the lineup at the costco gas station is retarded, every day of the week, all BC lisence plates.


Actually I see the tanker there all the time, and I actually asked the driver, how many trips he makes to that costco on a daily basis,

he said he makes anywhere from 3-6 trips DAILY

TypeRNammer
05-18-2012, 12:46 PM
There is one station (Can-Am?) that has 24 hour unattended pumps.

I think chevron and texaco are also 24 hour unattended.

Definitely for sure can am is 24 hours unattended.

InvisibleSoul
05-18-2012, 01:35 PM
I suspect the government will do something about it soon though, the lineup at the costco gas station is retarded, every day of the week, all BC lisence plates.
Doubt it. This isn't exactly a new phenomenon... people have been driving south to get gas for decades.

GGnoRE
05-18-2012, 01:37 PM
They already rape us with gas taxes in BC, the least they can do is let us drive to the states for gas...

Glove
05-18-2012, 01:56 PM
wasnt there an article posted not too long ago about that though?

The ammount of people going south for gas is increasing, directly proportional to the rising cost of gas up here,

and the government knows it, I think the article said that they will try and heavily tax people on any fuel in jerry's, im gonna try and find it


edit:

well I couldnt find it,

but if everyone starts going south to fill up, thats a lot of revenue lost for translink, the new transit and bridge systems.

BC will definitly do something about it eventually

TypeRNammer
05-18-2012, 03:13 PM
New1130 did an article on people crossing the border for gas.

They mentioned someone crossed back bringing back at least 400 bucks of gas lol.

EDIT: http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/356708--canadians-filling-jerry-cans-across-the-border

People crossing back with 10 to 15 jerry cans!

InvisibleSoul
05-18-2012, 04:01 PM
Oh, well that's a different story... because gas in jerry cans is - and always has been - subject to customs. They could definitely be more proactive about making people pay for customs on gas in portable containers... I was saying they wouldn't do anything about people going south to put gas in their vehicles.

A$AProcky
05-18-2012, 05:21 PM
I live 10 mins from the border so I go regularly. I fill up once or twice a week and save about $20-$25 filling up with premium (costs $1.25/L compared to almost $1.60/L). Takes about 30 mins back and forth with no traffic for me so its worth it.

If I was only saving $10 I dont think I'd bother wasting my time but I save at least $80 a month.

CL typeS
05-19-2012, 12:56 AM
Gas taxes 'cash cow' for gov't (http://www.theprovince.com/business/taxes+cash/6642728/story.html)

6.67 cents per litre carbon tax.

8.5 cents per litre B.C. tax.

10 cents per litre federal tax.

17 cents per litre TransLink tax.

Five-per-cent harmonized sales tax.



holy shit

Harvey Specter
05-19-2012, 12:58 AM
Gas taxes 'cash cow' for gov't (http://www.theprovince.com/business/taxes+cash/6642728/story.html)

6.67 cents per litre carbon tax.

8.5 cents per litre B.C. tax.

10 cents per litre federal tax.

17 cents per litre TransLink tax.

Five-per-cent harmonized sales tax.



holy shit


Wow...we're the next UK in the making.

A$AProcky
05-19-2012, 12:31 PM
Why the fuck is translink getting 17 cents? Carbon tax and translink tax need to be scraped immediately, same with 5% HST why are we paying tax to the Government three times?

DHP 1
05-19-2012, 01:37 PM
Gas taxes 'cash cow' for gov't (http://www.theprovince.com/business/taxes+cash/6642728/story.html)

6.67 cents per litre carbon tax.

8.5 cents per litre B.C. tax.

10 cents per litre federal tax.

17 cents per litre TransLink tax.

Five-per-cent harmonized sales tax.



holy shit

17 cents to translink ? wow

sdubfid
05-19-2012, 07:01 PM
if only translink filled up in the states

glove you have a trailer right? go big or go home
http://www.moderneq.com/images/tank%20on%20flatbed.JPG

Santofu
05-19-2012, 07:12 PM
Fuck translink for taxing us that amount of tax...
Fuck translink for paying their board of directors with a 100% salary upgrade since few years ago...
300k salary is unacceptable...
Translink should be getting enough money from everything... such as bus fares, advertising, taxes and etc.

marksport
05-20-2012, 08:29 PM
I'm in Abbotsford so driving down to Sumas isn't too bad. I bought a couple of jerry cans with me and got about 200L of diesel, about $40 savings. I wonder what they would say if I put 500L Tidy Tank in the back.

UFO
05-21-2012, 01:24 PM
Lol at everybody raging on Translink for $0.17/L tax saying it needs to go away right away. Really think that will happen? Complaining about it on an online forum will do nothing. Go complain to your elected representatives, public hearings, etc etc.

On the other hand, I wonder how much tax money the gov is losing out on with the recent influx of people filling in the US.