[LiquidTurbo]

Hi RS,

Need your help. For the past few years now, I can't get a deep sleep. I always wake up when someone is moving around, I just can't achieve a good deep sleep. Noises like doors closing can wake me up. I'm Also when I wake up I don't feel refreshed, always in 'snooze' mode like I have to sleep more and more.

I don't think I have sleep apnea. Can anyone help?

[Jegz]

pop an oxy

[bluejays]

My brother uses this app for the iphone called SleepUp! and says it helps him. I've tried it a couple of times and didn't really notice a difference in deep sleep but I was able to fall asleep a lot faster

[Nicotine]

I have the same problems i can ever easily fall asleep.

pop an oxy
drugs are never the answer:rukidding:

[rsx]

Melatonin is pretty good I hear, I use over the counter sleep aids. I have a terrible time sleeping. My mind's constantly working and life stress doesn't help.

[dlo]

Smoke weed..... Shit makes u pass out :lol
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[Mr.HappySilp]

or exercise till your body is too tired to go on?
I am the exact opposite. I sleep like a pig lol. Once some thief broke into my parent's house while I was sleeping and they came into my room (door was open lol) and I didn't even know.

[JSilver]

Honestly, Marijuana will do the job.

Go to your family Doctor and suggest it.

One joint to the dome; good to go.

[MindBomber]

Melatonin is pretty good I hear, I use over the counter sleep aids. I have a terrible time sleeping. My mind's constantly working and life stress doesn't help.

Melatonin is good for occasional use, but not daily.

If overused the result can actually be an increased difficulty in sleeping.

[franklucas]

LOL besides weed, try and get some physical activity that will tire you out. Dont get sidetracked with anything when your focusin on sleeping

[jack3d]

what times are you trying to sleep at? This can matter a lot as well

[insomniac]

Got the same problem but my main issue is the falling asleep part :(

[Soundy]

Hi RS,

Need your help. For the past few years now, I can't get a deep sleep. I always wake up when someone is moving around, I just can't achieve a good deep sleep. Noises like doors closing can wake me up. I'm Also when I wake up I don't feel refreshed, always in 'snooze' mode like I have to sleep more and more.

I don't think I have sleep apnea. Can anyone help?

You don't THINK you have sleep apnea... but you should find out for sure; I actually knew someone who died from it - stop breathing in her sleep and just didn't wake up.

It's a simple enough test - you take an oximeter home, wear it on your finger when you sleep, take it back to the hospital/clinic the next day, they check the readings.

I had it... got the CPAP machine... wore that for a few months, but it helped me get a WAY better sleep and have more energy, so I lost 30+ pounds, and no longer had the sleep apnea.

Seriously, see a sleep therapist. Last thing you want is to be dozing off behind the wheel and wreck your Kia.

[BrRsn]

Melatonin is only really for fixing your sleeping patterns after you screw them up. I.e. studying all night for finals/jetlag/etc.

Smoke some weed, or a stiff drink before bed usually does the drink for me although probably not the healthiest way to get some sleep.

[Phozy]

Marijuana will put you out, ask your doc for more help :)

[Cassijon]

fap like crazy. that'll tire you out

[AW607]

fap like crazy. that'll tire you out

This, it works (most of the time, I admit to it hahah)

You can also go to some place like Bath and Body Works and get yourself an aromatherapy in a bottle which you spray on your pillow and it could possibly help you get to sleep faster and a little more comfortably. My girlfriend got me one for v-day and it works wonders, especially if I have to get up at 6am five days of the week

[alex.w *//]

is it weird

on weekdays i have to wake up at 7 to get ready for work, but i always want to sleep a bit more, and get up last minute.

but on the weekend when i have a day off, i'm wide awake at 7. i can never sleep in for some reason

[Soundy]

Hi RS,

Need your help. For the past few years now, I can't get a deep sleep. I always wake up when someone is moving around, I just can't achieve a good deep sleep. Noises like doors closing can wake me up. I'm Also when I wake up I don't feel refreshed, always in 'snooze' mode like I have to sleep more and more.

I don't think I have sleep apnea. Can anyone help?

Sound familiar?

The signs and symptoms of obstructive and central sleep apneas overlap, sometimes making the type of sleep apnea more difficult to determine. The most common signs and symptoms of obstructive and central sleep apneas include:


Excessive daytime sleepiness (hypersomnia)
Loud snoring, which is usually more prominent in obstructive sleep apnea
Observed episodes of breathing cessation during sleep
Abrupt awakenings accompanied by shortness of breath, which more likely indicates central sleep apnea
Awakening with a dry mouth or sore throat
Morning headache
Difficulty staying asleep (insomnia)


Source: Sleep apnea: Symptoms - MayoClinic.com (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/sleep-apnea/DS00148/DSECTION=symptoms)

Seriously... before you start jacking up (or off) with things to help keep you sleeping, see your doctor and find out WHY you're NOT sleeping right in the first place. It can actually be a serious medical condition.

[melloman]

If the doctor says there's nothing wrong with you.. I'm not sure how against drugs you are.. but not even a full joint of marijuana.. some people only need 2-3 hits and you'll get a deep sleep.

Somewhere on RS there's a thread about sleep cycles, and how if you wake up inbetween the sleep cycles your dead tired, compared to if u wake up at the end of a cycle (naturally wake up compared to waking up to an alarm)

I've found on weekends when I wake up naturally, I feel 100% refereshed compared to on the weekdays where I wake up to an alarm. My sleep patterns are about the same aswell;

Weekdays: 12am-7am Sleeping
Weekends: 3am-10/11am Sleeping

[Glove]

try earplugs broski,

I cant sleep without em, birds chirping, people walking, laundry, cat snoring in my face, semi's n helicopters n shit.

I cant get any fuckin Z's around here if I dont wear earplugs,

I sleep 8-9 full hours since I started earplugs.

[vafanculo]

Weed, or jerk it. Sometimes when I can't sleep, I'll combine the 2.. And off to dreamland I go.

[Phozy]

is it weird

on weekdays i have to wake up at 7 to get ready for work, but i always want to sleep a bit more, and get up last minute.

but on the weekend when i have a day off, i'm wide awake at 7. i can never sleep in for some reason

Same with my dad or grandparents, gparents can be awake as early as 4 in the morning, my dad always 6am, sometimes they doze off but its not really a deep sleep

[TheNewGirl]

I'm a life long insomniac from a long line of 'em. This is selection of shit I've learned.

1. Get to a doctor and get checked out.
2. Do you have anyone who sleeps with you? They will be able to tell you if you have apnea, you won't know yourself.
3. Have you lost weight? Has your appetite changed at all?
4. Alcohol fucks up your REM cycles, don't drink regularly.
5. Most doctors will agree caffeine fucks up your REM cycles too (though I actually find little impact personally)
6. Eat healthy, exercise more.
7. More sex (with yourself or others) will help you sleep better.
8. Stress management is key. Often when we're wanting to sleep more selectively it's psychological not always physical

[Soundy]

I'm a life long insomniac from a long line of 'em. This is selection of shit I've learned.

1. Get to a doctor and get checked out.
:considered:

2. Do you have anyone who sleeps with you?
:alone:

They will be able to tell you if you have apnea, you won't know yourself.
There are some good indicators... one that affects me is having to get up to go to the bathroom several times during the night. According to my sleep therapist, with some people, when they stop breathing, the body triggers the urge to pee, which triggers the person to wake up.

[hamsup]

The side effects of melatonin are horrible.. i found myself always so drowsy the next day... LOL... also read up that it just puts you to sleep but not into a deep sleep mode.

[TheNewGirl]

I do not recommend melatonin at all. It's fine for occational use but should not be used regularly or your body will stop making it's own.

As Hamsup says it also doesn't put you into proper sleep.

[GGnoRE]

Drink a glass of milk about 1 hour before you want to fall asleep.

[Ri2]

is there anything important going on in your life right now (or before) that could be subconsciously stressing you out and not allowing you to relax?

i've also had trouble sleeping before and i've done relatively well going the herbal, natural way. for me was d/t outside circumstances and i fully support the others' comments on making SURE it's not sleep apnea.

1. i used johnson's lavender and chamomile baby bedtime body wash/lotion
2. sprayed my face and pillow with rose water
3. get in bed and meditate
4. this one is weird but i sleep better when my wrist is bent.. like the back/top of my hand is touching the mattress. i've been doing it since i was a baby lol.
5. get into this position
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzco24BYsm1r2jktgo1_400.jpg

i hope you're able to find what works for you soon!!!

[Shades]

^^
Did you draw this?

[SkinnyPupp]

Melatonin is useful for occasional use, but you have to use it right. First of all, don't take more than 1mg if you have never used it before. If 1mg is enough, good, there's your dose. If it's not enough, try 2mg then 3mg. DO NOT GO OVER 3MG or you will have the drowsy side effects.

Also, you need to take it early enough in the evening, because if you get less than about 8 hours of sleep with melatonin, you won't be fully rested. It does put you into a deep sleep, but you need enough of it. Of course, this varies by person as well.

Another to try that also has to be used sparingly is PHENIBUT. Try 300 to 600mg. Similar to melatonin, this should only be used sparingly - no more than 2 nights a week, STRICTLY.

The good thing about phenibut is that it really increases your GABA intake, so the next day, you will feel like a million bucks in a way. Sometimes it almost feels euphoric. Used during the day, it is very good for anxiety, but I only use it for sleep. But it is physically addictive, so don't take it more than 2x a week.

One that you can take each night that will help sleep is 5-HTP. Start with a 100mg dosage, and you can work your way up to 300mg, but taper up and down, and take breaks. It will help with sleep, give killer dreams, and increase serotonin levels which helps with mood and anxiety. It's also great for dieting, as it can help prevent carb cravings during a cut.

[Ri2]

^^
Did you draw this?

nope, tumblr provided :accepted:

[miss_crayon]

Melatonin is useful for occasional use, but you have to use it right. First of all, don't take more than 1mg if you have never used it before. If 1mg is enough, good, there's your dose. If it's not enough, try 2mg then 3mg. DO NOT GO OVER 3MG or you will have the drowsy side effects.

Also, you need to take it early enough in the evening, because if you get less than about 8 hours of sleep with melatonin, you won't be fully rested. It does put you into a deep sleep, but you need enough of it. Of course, this varies by person as well.

Another to try that also has to be used sparingly is PHENIBUT. Try 300 to 600mg. Similar to melatonin, this should only be used sparingly - no more than 2 nights a week, STRICTLY.

The good thing about phenibut is that it really increases your GABA intake, so the next day, you will feel like a million bucks in a way. Sometimes it almost feels euphoric. Used during the day, it is very good for anxiety, but I only use it for sleep. But it is physically addictive, so don't take it more than 2x a week.

One that you can take each night that will help sleep is 5-HTP. Start with a 100mg dosage, and you can work your way up to 300mg, but taper up and down, and take breaks. It will help with sleep, give killer dreams, and increase serotonin levels which helps with mood and anxiety. It's also great for dieting, as it can help prevent carb cravings during a cut.

Holy shit listen to this guy! LOL. Skinny suggested taking melatonin when I came back from HK, I didn't know and had 3mg on my first try....most fucked up dream of my life! Felt like I was on acid or something.

[SkinnyPupp]

lol I remember that... weren't you taking like 6mg?

Also, don't mix any of those things up

[LiquidTurbo]

Holy shit listen to this guy! LOL. Skinny suggested taking melatonin when I came back from HK, I didn't know and had 3mg on my first try....most fucked up dream of my life! Felt like I was on acid or something.

Lol, do you remembered what happened in your dream? I don't mind dreaming, just wanna feel rested. I picked up some good foam earplugs, gonna try that tonight with a dose of melatonin.

[NLY]

When I was really stressed out and couldn't get any sleep, my doctor prescribed trazodone (100 MG). It's classified as an anti-depressant but those made me PTFO.

[LiquidTurbo]

When I was really stressed out and couldn't get any sleep, my doctor prescribed trazodone (100 MG). It's classified as an anti-depressant but those made me PTFO.

WTF, that makes me mad. You said you're having problems sleeping and your doc gave you something like that?

One pill for every ill eh.

I'm pretty sure almost all sleeping issues could be solved without presciption meds.

I realize a factor was using the computer with a bright display is a factor. You shouldn't be looking at something with the white balance of the sun right before trying to sleep, I think it's confusing my brain.

[NLY]

WTF, that makes me mad. You said you're having problems sleeping and your doc gave you something like that?

One pill for every ill eh.

I'm pretty sure almost all sleeping issues could be solved without presciption meds.

I realize a factor was using the computer with a bright display is a factor. You shouldn't be looking at something with the white balance of the sun right before trying to sleep, I think it's confusing my brain.

You're definitely right about the computer being a factor. I used to browse my iPad before I went to bed and that was a huge mistake. Now before I go to bed, I leave all electronics outside the bedroom to avoid temptation (keep my blackberry for emergencies and I would rather pass kidney stones then use the blackberry browser for ANYTHING)

I told my doctor I had trouble sleeping especially when my girlfriend was over (she radiates heat like crazy and loves to use my arms and chest as her pillow)

"Take these pills once a night, fourty five minutes before you sleep."

I tried it the first night and like advertised; I was out. It's very hard to not use the pills (almost like a placebo effect, If I don't take them I can't stop thinking about taking them.) especially when my girlfriend stays the night.

And yes, it's still difficult to sleep after sex. (she's out easy but I can't just fall alseep)

[SkinnyPupp]

Green tea before bed is a horrible idea, it contains caffeine and other stims

[NLY]

I've been in the exact same situation as you, sadly. Drink alot of green tea, i find that it helps you relax, and the warmth from the drink will help your body heal during sleeping. However, that feeling that you're experiencing only happens to me when i'm having jet lags. Try to sleep before 12, and wake up before 9. AND BE CONSISTENT.

I've had friends tell me the same about having a consistent routine. During the weekdays I try to be in bed by 1 AM and up for work at 8.

[suzuka84]

ask you doctor for prescription medication ambien

[TheNewGirl]

ask you doctor for prescription medication ambien

Do NOT do this.

Ambien is not a good idea for regular use and should only be used in times of extreme stress (when a family member dies kinda thing) where outside factors are impacting sleep. Regular use of Ambien and other sleeping pills can have seriously ill effects including but not limited to fucking up your memory, hallucinations and other mental impairments.

Did I mention it's also addictive?

Don't go there.

[LiquidTurbo]

Like I said before , I don't believe prescription meds are necessary for fixing sleeping g problems. Ask Michael Jackson, lol.

[!Yaminashi]

Ask Michael Jackson, lol.

He's dead bro
:troll:

[quasi]

When I was working out of town I couldn't sleep. I'd have to get up at 6 but I'd be lucky if I could fall asleep before 3am no matter how tired I was. Sleeping pills helped but not a long term fix by any means. I now take melatonin with decent success when I'm having trouble sleeping. It's not something I use every night but probably 4-5 times a month depending on my stress levels at work. I've never had nightmares, funky dreams or next day drowsiness from it that I've noticed.

My sleeping problem have everything to do with stress when I have them. If I have huge projects I'm working on that are not going well or I'm worried I'm not going to finish I will probably have a hell of a time getting any sleep. Sometimes I hate my job and would like to go back to being a grunt and not someone people depend on for answers.

[spoon.ek9]

When I was really stressed out and couldn't get any sleep, my doctor prescribed trazodone (100 MG). It's classified as an anti-depressant but those made me PTFO.

I'm very surprised that your doctor would prescribe 100mg to you. ESPECIALLY if it was your first time taking that medication. Most people begin at 25mg and this drug is often abused by patients.

Like I said before, I don't believe prescription meds are necessary for fixing sleeping g problems. Ask Michael Jackson, lol.

MJ was given Propofol intravenously by his doctor on a nightly basis. That shit is for general anesthesia and is supposed to be administered with an anesthesiologist present to monitor the patient. Retard doctor injected him with the drug, left and came back to find him not breathing. Anyways, my point here is that Propofol isn't something anyone will be able to get at a local pharmacy.

As for your sleeping habits, I picked up a few tips from Psychology that have helped myself and others.

1. Do not keep a TV or any other electronics (other than cellphone of course) in your bedroom. These things all stimulate your mind and distract the normal sleeping cues your body gives you. There are also studies that show having a TV in the bedroom leads to less sex ;)

2. Do not use your bed for anything other than sleep (and sex). By doing this, your mind and body are associating the bed with rest. When you do things like eat, study, etc on your bed, your mind is again being stimulated rather than shutting down for the night.

3. Try to avoid mind stimulating activities prior to sleeping. Instead, try to do things that you know will make you want to sleep; things that don't involve a lot of brain power. Counting sheep may sound stupid but it works for many people. Personally, I do things like clip my nails, studying (:lol) or even reading some lengthy posts by certain people who have long-winded arguments on RS :whistle:

[CorneringArtist]

Is 5-HTP over the counter? I've been having constant problems sleeping, and I'm getting sick of having to pry myself off my bed every morning. It's also annoying either waking up in the middle of the night, or worse, 15-30 minutes before my alarm goes off, which makes any sleep I got feel like a waste of time.

I was hooked up to an oxymeter when I was younger, but the specialist that I went to only gave a vague description to what I needed to do for sleep apnea at the time. Of course, I was in elementary school when that happened, so basically zero stress in my life.

Any additional info in the 5-HTP is appreciated.

[Soundy]

Is 5-HTP over the counter? I've been having constant problems sleeping, and I'm getting sick of having to pry myself off my bed every morning. It's also annoying either waking up in the middle of the night, or worse, 15-30 minutes before my alarm goes off, which makes any sleep I got feel like a waste of time.

I was hooked up to an oxymeter when I was younger, but the specialist that I went to only gave a vague description to what I needed to do for sleep apnea at the time. Of course, I was in elementary school when that happened, so basically zero stress in my life.

Any additional info in the 5-HTP is appreciated.
If there's a chance you have sleep apnea, you DO NOT want to be taking medication that will keep you asleep. The reason you're sleepy with apnea is because you stop breathing in the night, and your body kicks itself to wake you up and start breathing again. Apply drugs that keep you asleep, and you may stay that way permanently.

[LiquidTurbo]

For those with smartphones, I got this app called "sleep talk" which records sounds made during sleeping, including sleep talk.

While I don't sleep talk, I've been using it to track how often I toss and turn.

One night I slept 8 hours, 31 recordings of me shufflings.
Last night, 5:53hrs, 28 recordings.
Previous night, 5:45, 21 recordings.

[SkinnyPupp]

Is 5-HTP over the counter? I've been having constant problems sleeping, and I'm getting sick of having to pry myself off my bed every morning. It's also annoying either waking up in the middle of the night, or worse, 15-30 minutes before my alarm goes off, which makes any sleep I got feel like a waste of time.

I was hooked up to an oxymeter when I was younger, but the specialist that I went to only gave a vague description to what I needed to do for sleep apnea at the time. Of course, I was in elementary school when that happened, so basically zero stress in my life.

Any additional info in the 5-HTP is appreciated.
Are you fat?

[CorneringArtist]

Are you fat?

Was, I'm dropping weight now, and currently the lightest I've been since well, ever. Down 30 pounds from 290 (6'2") in the last 3 months.

[SkinnyPupp]

Was, I'm dropping weight now, and currently the lightest I've been since well, ever. Down 30 pounds from 290 (6'2") in the last 3 months.
Still 260 though, that is pretty heavy. You should check to see if you have sleep apnea IMO

[Soundy]

I was at 260, 5'11" when I was diagnosed with sleep apnea. Once I got below 225 it pretty much disappeared. Creeping back up to 230 now and it's coming back a wee bit.

[ChaSuiBow]

Step 1: Get sick
Step 2: take Nyquil's

You'll be asleep before you know it

[Titanium1.8]

Read a university textbook that you don't understand that well.

[LUUUUUUUU]

Go the Fuck to Sleep - Read by Samuel L. Jackson - YouTube

[LiquidTurbo]

I found a new technique to help me fall asleep faster. Replay the day backward from the moment you get into bed, kind of like a movie playing backwards. Remember all the things you did, places you did, things you ate. For me, I found that I fell asleep like this very quickly.

[saucywoman]

Generally I need 8 hours. lately no matter what time I go to sleep I am generally waking up in the middle of the night and either awake for 2 hours before I fall back asleep or up stupidly early :(

[jack3d]

I found a new technique to help me fall asleep faster. Replay the day backward from the moment you get into bed, kind of like a movie playing backwards. Remember all the things you did, places you did, things you ate. For me, I found that I fell asleep like this very quickly.

cant say this works for me. thinking makes me stay up

[see.lai]

Try to think sexy thoughts, it helps.
:ifyouknow:

[LiquidTurbo]

cant say this works for me. thinking makes me stay up

Did you try it?

[Excelsis]

here's a method to use to fall asleep fast

begin with concentrating on an object/person/activity whatever for a while and try to concentrate on only that thing, then when thoughts about other things start coming in observe them...

after a while you'll start seeing some "green" light don't know what to call it like things sparking in the blackness then you relax some more, if you're still awake try to pulse your heartbeat with your brain and you'll be sleeping before you know it

and when you wake up your eyes feel very refreshed, i don't know why this works but it does

main issue you stay up is because you're too tense or have some boggling thought in your mind, hope this helped

[Drow]

i've recently have had episodes of insomnia... its never happened to me before and i'm getting shit scared.

the first episode was about 2 weeks ago, the night before avicii and i was too excited and couldn't fall asleep. Fine, excitement kept me awake, then 2 weeks after i've slept fine. However, last night I wasn't able to fall asleep at all. I was tired, but i just kept rolling around in bed until the next morning when i had to get to work. Before i slept i watched an episode of breaking bad (i always watch an episode of a series before i sleep, and it helped me fall asleep a lot quicker) but then at the same time i was constantly texting this chick. After i stopped texting her i tried to fall asleep and couldn't.

After work i was tired, and the plan was to get home and nap for a few hours before heading out at night again.

Couldn't fall asleep again even though i was tired.

any help guys? I really don't want to resort to taking sleeping pills or melatonin to sleep.


p.s, on most nights, i blaze with my buddies before heading home. what's happening? does summer have to do with anything ??? :okay:

[Meowjin]

get an oxylometer

[AW607]

Usually I think that thinking about too many things at once, worrying about what's happening the next day or just being excited over something that will make you think about it over and over will just keep you awake. I usually listen to some music while I go to sleep, helps me pass out a lot faster especially if I have work the next morning

[Nicotine]

http://generatormeme.com/media/created/n4q6b9.jpg

[vanle]

try smoking some weed

[etodac]

Bump

My problem is that I cannot stay asleep for more than 4-5 hours every night. I feel restless when I wake up and can't fall back asleep. I just suddenly wake up for no reason. During the day I'm ok, but I get really tired after work and sometimes take a name.

I exercise regularly, don't sleep in 'cause I can't. Just looking to see if you guys have any similar experiences. Probably see my doctor about this soon 'cause I'm getting exhausted.

[LiquidTurbo]

Bump

My problem is that I cannot stay asleep for more than 4-5 hours every night. I feel restless when I wake up and can't fall back asleep. I just suddenly wake up for no reason. During the day I'm ok, but I get really tired after work and sometimes take a name.

I exercise regularly, don't sleep in 'cause I can't. Just looking to see if you guys have any similar experiences. Probably see my doctor about this soon 'cause I'm getting exhausted.

Does this happen when you sleep elsewhere?

(Like alone at a comfortable hotel)

[B!tch]

tmi

[instantneedles]

Melatonin is useful for occasional use, but you have to use it right. First of all, don't take more than 1mg if you have never used it before. If 1mg is enough, good, there's your dose. If it's not enough, try 2mg then 3mg. DO NOT GO OVER 3MG or you will have the drowsy side effects.

Also, you need to take it early enough in the evening, because if you get less than about 8 hours of sleep with melatonin, you won't be fully rested. It does put you into a deep sleep, but you need enough of it. Of course, this varies by person as well.

Another to try that also has to be used sparingly is PHENIBUT. Try 300 to 600mg. Similar to melatonin, this should only be used sparingly - no more than 2 nights a week, STRICTLY.

The good thing about phenibut is that it really increases your GABA intake, so the next day, you will feel like a million bucks in a way. Sometimes it almost feels euphoric. Used during the day, it is very good for anxiety, but I only use it for sleep. But it is physically addictive, so don't take it more than 2x a week.

One that you can take each night that will help sleep is 5-HTP. Start with a 100mg dosage, and you can work your way up to 300mg, but taper up and down, and take breaks. It will help with sleep, give killer dreams, and increase serotonin levels which helps with mood and anxiety. It's also great for dieting, as it can help prevent carb cravings during a cut.

Skinny, of these supplements, if I take it on a regular basis would I start to develop a tolerance to it and gradually require stronger doses to feel the same effects?

The way you describe it, I feel like I'm setting myself up for a crazy addiction to some sort of naturopathic god-like psychotic drug.

I feel like phenibut might be a good option for me, because I feel like I really only need it for two days of the week when I'd be crazy sleep deprived and need the energy to workout/lift heavy weights the day after.

[racerman88]

ask your family doctor to book you to see a specialist like clinical sleep solutions or the sleep clinic up at UBC and they can evaluate you.

[ZN6]

I used to have problems sleeping and over the past half year, I've dropped about 26lbs and now I'm at 185lbs at 5'10". Diet really helped me get to sleep better. I'm knocked out at 11pm and wake up refreshed and ready to hit the bike to work by 7:30am. Biking helped me drop a shit tonne of weight and my cardio has never been better.

[mac25]

if you're drinking it quit coffee all together even in the morning.

-natural hurbs that sedate include lemon grass, valerian and wild wild lettuce.


i've used lemon grass it comes on slow and works well but i felt sleepy the next day (might have taken too much).

i also used valerian... it hit pretty hard and i passed out. i felt well slept and non drowsy the next day but i had a headache and it smells like feet, lol.

i have not yet tried wild lettuce.

[hongy]

I'm slowly getting back to sleeping less then 3 hours a night. Not really sure why. I used to sleep about an hour to an hour and a half a night for months on end.

Not over weight. Around 6 feet tall, 140/150 pounds, and a smoker. However I have been smoking for last 7 years, haven't smoked more recently. So I'm not entirely sure what's wrong.

Any help would be appreciated as I have classes 5 days a week along with family business.

Thanks.
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[Drow]

Somebody please help... :(

Insomnia hit me again in the past week

I get 1-2 h of sleep every night....

[jnesss]

Somebody please help... :(

Insomnia hit me again in the past week

I get 1-2 h of sleep every night....

bathe in a tub of extra hot water with epsom salts. i tried this to fix my busted back a while ago. 20mins after getting out of the tub, i just passed out.

[Drow]

bathe in a tub of extra hot water with epsom salts. i tried this to fix my busted back a while ago. 20mins after getting out of the tub, i just passed out.

i hope i can find this locally

[MasonJar]

camomile tea

[jnesss]

i hope i can find this locally

superstore has em.

[SkinnyPupp]

Skinny, of these supplements, if I take it on a regular basis would I start to develop a tolerance to it and gradually require stronger doses to feel the same effects?

The way you describe it, I feel like I'm setting myself up for a crazy addiction to some sort of naturopathic god-like psychotic drug.

I feel like phenibut might be a good option for me, because I feel like I really only need it for two days of the week when I'd be crazy sleep deprived and need the energy to workout/lift heavy weights the day after.
If you only use it 2 days a week, there's no way you could build a tolerance to it or get addicted. It is not a 'natural' supplement though. It is a flat out drug.

I take 250mg a day, every night. At a low steady dose, there are also no concerns. It doesn't have a major noticeable effect, but it helps stay relaxed and night, and helps to fall asleep.

About a week or 2 a month, I run into problems sleeping more than 6-7 hours.. Not sure where this comes from. Probably lack of exercise

[MG1]

i hope i can find this locally

epsom salts can be purchased at London Drugs, Superstore, or Walmart. Walmart carries the larger containers and IIRC, cheaper.

[MasonJar]

Safeway sells them in the pharmacy.

[mr_chin]

Bringing old thread back.

Anyone sleeping with a CPAP? Did it help?

[guurl]

Smoke weed..... Shit makes u pass out :lol
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i second this.

kush.:badpokerface:

[trancehead]

Melatonin Supplements --> body naturally produces it.

Foods that also produce melatonin -> grapes, warm milk, oatmeal

Benadryl -> knocks you out by messing with your h1 central receptors.

And if all else fails -> give the one eyed snake a whack

[jeedee]

6mg of melatonin usually knocks me out. might be a bit overkill but usually 3mg does the job too lol.

or ZMA + 3mg melatonin

[Vansterdam]

I started smoking weed 10+ years ago originally to help me sleep. best sleep ever. no problems sleeping although I tend to oversleep and not remember my dreams.

recently Ive gone sober and its been 30 days. last 2 weeks or so Ive been having trouble falling asleep and my sleeps been pretty broken. the good thing is I remember my dreams now but man my sleeps fucked lol

I refuse to take melatonin or sleeping pills doe so well see how it goes. recently got a new bed so maybe that will help once I get used to it lol

[Mr.Money]

Walks - sometimes The fresh air and a little exercise will Conk you out.....and test the waters...try Marley's Mellow Mood Lite Raspberry Tea Lemonade at 7/11....it works for some.

[Ikkaku]

Bringing old thread back.

Anyone sleeping with a CPAP? Did it help?

Well, if the sleep clinic suggests that you do in fact suffer from sleep apnea, then it will help. It does feel really weird at first though.

I have one, but haven't used it in a while. I've been real stressed out since working at my current job, and I do randomly wake up at various hours (not sure if stress, apnea or both causing me to wake). I may try to start it up again in hopes of better sleep.

[jeedee]

I refuse to take melatonin or sleeping pills doe

if you don't mind me asking how come?

I work graveyard hours now and was struggling to sleep during the day. Melatonin really helps.

That or ZMA which gives me some vivid/intense dreams lol

[guurl]

Walks - sometimes The fresh air and a little exercise will Conk you out.....and test the waters...try Marley's Mellow Mood Lite Raspberry Tea Lemonade at 7/11....it works for some.

marley mellows doesnt have melatonin in it anymore

[jnesss]

wow, old thread. fast forward a couple years, the salts still work.

melatonin is ok once in a while. I stopped taking it because I didn't want to become dependent on it.

nowadays, I like my room extra dark while I sleep, so I put up something that blocks out ALL light. on sunny mornings, it's still really dark in my room.

I also like sleeping with noise canceling headphones on. sometimes I'll have deep house tunes playing on low through the night. or I'll just use earplugs.

[racerman88]

Bringing old thread back.

Anyone sleeping with a CPAP? Did it help?


CPAP machine did wonders for stopping my snoring.
Helps my sleep apnea although it is minimal.
Thankfully extended health covered it fully

[tiger_handheld]

thought i'd chime in on what's worked for me since 2015, when i decided i wanted a proper sleep.


i always felt i was up at night but i had no way of knowing. did some reading on deep sleep and why I felt groggy when my traditional alarm went off. Also figured out "Sleep Cycle" app was the best app out there to monitor sleep patters. Also has white noise to help you fall asleep. Figured out sleeping cycles (90 mins to fall asleep) and adjusted my "get on the bed" as such.

second i have a window above my head and noises and street lamp lights filter in through the blinds. Wasn't gonna shell out $ for black out blinds, so I got a eye mask - just like the ones you get on long haul international flights.

made sure the computer was on so the fan wasn't running. turned off the radio.

been getting 8hrs of uninterrupted sleep since Jan 2015 and my sleep quality is averaging 80%+ each night (per the app).


Note: if you have a pet that sleeps with you, jumps on yoru bed - the app will not work.

[TOPEC]

for people using melatonin, do u guys get acne from it? i took a week of melatonin straight and got pimples everywhere on my body, face, back, chest, arms. i now only take it once or twice a week.

[Vansterdam]

if you don't mind me asking how come?

I work graveyard hours now and was struggling to sleep during the day. Melatonin really helps.

That or ZMA which gives me some vivid/intense dreams lol

its weed or nothing for me bruh

Trouble Sleeping? Here's How I Learned To Fall Asleep In Under 1 Minute Every Night - Higher Perspective (http://www.higherperspectives.com/fall-asleep-fast-1406160617.html)

u guys should give this a try

For a long time, I had a hard time sleeping. We can chock it up to bad food late at night, too many screens before bed, and stress. I found it incredibly difficult to shut my brain down and give it a break at night. After weeks of not being able to sleep a full night, a friend of mine told me about the "4-7-8" breathing trick.

But what is that?

This method was developed by a wellness practitioner, Harvard-educated Dr. Andrew Weil, who studies meditation, breathing, and how it can be used to counteract stress. It's easy to do. You breathe in through your nose for four seconds, hold it for seven seconds, and exhale through your mouth for eight seconds. She explained to me that it slows down your heart rate and it also releases chemicals in our brains that soothe you.

Pretty neat, huh? I was skeptical, but I tried it. It ended up working like a total charm. I was out before I reached my fourth repetition and it tends to knock me out easily in less than a minute.

This is good for more than just falling asleep though. When we're stressed, our endocrine system releases adrenaline through our adrenal glands. This elevates your heart rate and can make you feel jittery and unwell. Often times, your breathing also becomes rapid and shallow.

By using this breathing method, you counteract the natural effects of adrenaline and your body is forced to slow down your heart rate. It simply doesn't have a choice! When you begin, you may feel a tad uncomfortable.

But as you continue with it, you really do feel your heart rate slow and your mind clear. It's almost like you're spending a leisurely afternoon at a beach. So relaxing. Give it a try tonight and tell us what you think! You can also heck out Dr. Weil's site if you are interested in further reading.

[mr_chin]

CPAP machine did wonders for stopping my snoring.
Helps my sleep apnea although it is minimal.
Thankfully extended health covered it fully

How often do you replace the mask?
Any other parts need to be replaced?
Are you still using it?

I got prescribed to one after I got diagnosed with mild sleep apnea.
Gonna pick it up on the 9th for a one month trial.

[jackmeister]

for people using melatonin, do u guys get acne from it? i took a week of melatonin straight and got pimples everywhere on my body, face, back, chest, arms. i now only take it once or twice a week.

no acne, but i dont think it's a good idea to take it for a week straight, dont you feel :drunk: every morning?

[tegra7]

I've been taking seroquel as prescribed by my dr, five years later I still sleep like a baby.

[racerman88]

Plan coverage allows for new mask every two years.
Every 5 years a replacement machine.
You have to replace a small filter every 3-4 months depending on how dusty it is.
I use it every day.
Check your extended health coverage b/c every plan is different.

[Vansterdam]

Shit I'm starting to think I have minor sleep apnea. Gonna look into it

[jnesss]

new pillow? on sale, gogo

ObusForme Neck & Neck Plus Cervical Pillow - White/Tan : Pillows - Best Buy Canada (http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/obusforme-obusforme-neck-neck-plus-cervical-pillow-white-tan-pl-cmb-01/10241705.aspx?path=5d3375632bc80651b5d5b11c9e90ad2 2en02)

[Vansterdam]

new pillow? on sale, gogo

ObusForme Neck & Neck Plus Cervical Pillow - White/Tan : Pillows - Best Buy Canada (http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/obusforme-obusforme-neck-neck-plus-cervical-pillow-white-tan-pl-cmb-01/10241705.aspx?path=5d3375632bc80651b5d5b11c9e90ad2 2en02)

I was eyeing these ones actually lol

Therapedic® Cooling Gel and Memory Foam Pillow - BedBathandBeyond.ca (http://www.bedbathandbeyond.ca/store/product/therapedic-reg-cooling-gel-and-memory-foam-pillow/1042813095?categoryId=23065)

noticed best buy has one on sale similar

http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/obusforme-obusforme-thermagel-memory-foam-comfort-pillow-pl-gel-tr-pl-gel-tr/10294717.aspx?path=f79d12a4a459953f56dae4c2cd8f29d 1en02

a quick google search and this one looks killer

http://www.amazon.com/Coop-Home-Goods-Shredded-Memory/dp/B00EINBSEW/ref=zg_bs_3732111_1

was gonna get one of these as well

MyPillow® Medium Fill Standard/Queen Pillow - BedBathandBeyond.ca (http://www.bedbathandbeyond.ca/store/product/mypillow-reg-medium-fill-standard-queen-pillow/1040606514?poc=211260)

Latex Foam Pillows - BedBathandBeyond.ca (http://www.bedbathandbeyond.ca/store/product/latex-foam-pillows/118382?categoryId=23069)

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[pankrationisfun]

+1 for CPAP. it change my life and how I have been sleeping for the last 20 years

[mr_chin]

For those on cpap, do you guys have or had a condition called cataplexy? If so, did cpap help treated that?

[Zedbra]

After Googling cataplexy, I realize I don;t have that condition - but I do use a BiPAP machine everyday; been using it for over two years now. I have severe sleep apnea (will stop breathing for a couple minutes at a time) and I require such high pressures that a regular CPAP machine wouldn't work for me.

I can't sleep well without it now - I look forward to putting my mask on and sleeping through the night. Even my hunting buddies made up a battery charging system with three car batteries, rapid charger, and inverter so that I could use my machine while out hunting for two weeks. They said my snoring and constant waking up, then leaving to take a leak, would wake them up as well. Now we all sleep better - and those are good friends.

My work medical paid for all of my equipment, which was $2,800 with the mask.

[Vansterdam]

I think i have very minor sleep apnea. just recently got a new bed and I sleep perfectly fine now although I have troubles falling asleep sometimes.

might consider grabbing that machine just in case since my work medical should cover it lol

[racerman88]

I think i have very minor sleep apnea. just recently got a new bed and I sleep perfectly fine now although I have troubles falling asleep sometimes.

might consider grabbing that machine just in case since my work medical should cover it lol


Get a referral to see an eyes, ear and nose specialist to get your air passageway looked at. That should be a good start.

[Zedbra]

I think i have very minor sleep apnea. just recently got a new bed and I sleep perfectly fine now although I have troubles falling asleep sometimes.

might consider grabbing that machine just in case since my work medical should cover it lol

Did they not tell you your drops in airflow per hour number? Most people are under 15, mild apnea starts at 5 per hour. I was at 77. My test was done at UBC hospital and after the test I was told I would be contacted in 6-8 weeks because they were busy. I got a call Monday morning (test was a Friday night) asking me to please come in that day.

Lack of oxygen to the brain is no laughing matter - if you have apnea, you should address it.

[Vansterdam]

Did they not tell you your drops in airflow per hour number? Most people are under 15, mild apnea starts at 5 per hour. I was at 77. My test was done at UBC hospital and after the test I was told I would be contacted in 6-8 weeks because they were busy. I got a call Monday morning (test was a Friday night) asking me to please come in that day.

Lack of oxygen to the brain is no laughing matter - if you have apnea, you should address it.

never got it checked but maybe I should. I just figured I had it since reading up about apnea and it describes what I get sometimes when I sleep.

It seems to happen only when Im just falling asleep. like deep sleep. maybe 30 mins to an hour or 2 into my sleep. Il wake up with a loud snort or choking sound. fall back asleep and it happens again. like 1-5x. its really rare though I might get it like 1-3 days every few months.

might be worth checking out I guess. I presume you gotta get referred by ur family doctor?

Im just hoping its because I usually sleep in the day and my sleeps fucked lol. just got a new bed recently and got off the mary jane, so im gonna see if it occurs for the next few months. hopefully not

[Zedbra]

I was referred by a doctor, but I think a friend of mine went to a sleep clinic in Surrey, where they sent him home with a simple machine and an oxygen sensor on his finger. I'm not sure how comprehensive that test is, and I can tell you that those clinics usually always come back with the diagnosis that you need an expensive machine, even for mild forms of apnea, which we all have.

Therefore, I went the old school route, got a referral from my doctor, waited the 8 months to get an appointment, and went and spent the night at UBC hospital under their sleep monitoring program. I had about 30 wires hooked up to me, with sensors taped all over to monitor the heart, brain, etc.

[mr_chin]

During my sleep test, I slept for approximately 4 hours only, and had 5 episodes of apnea that lasted almost a minute each.

If you think about it, that is pretty scary. To not breathe, 5 times in your sleep, for up to almost a minute each.

For those who are thinking about doing a test and wanting to get a machine. They will give you a one month trial with a machine before you buy it if you are diagnosed with mild sleep apnea.

[6793026]

My X went to UBC to get tested and slept for an entire night. No idea if she got her results but it was interesting to say the least.

My uncle got the machine and yes it's mofo awkward to be sleeping like an alien at night but it was 10000% worth it. He sleeps much better.

It is a huge pain in the ass to travel with it as you do need a plug and outlet close by and traveling as a carry on is a bitch.

[Skittlez160]

For you guys that have a cpap machine. Do you guys have/use the humidifier as well? My wife does and I'm looking to see if anyone has tips/tricks to keep the water tank clean. I know using distilled or filtered water is the way to go, which she does use. But the tank still eventually gets all gross after a while. I guess I'm more so asking how to prolong the cleanliness of the tank. It's also a bit of a pain in the ass to clean out that tank lol. TIA!

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

been wearing blue light blocking glasses for 1-5 hours before i sleep, i find im a lot more tired when i decide to get in bed.

[pankrationisfun]

yes on the humidifer, resmed autoset 10. i don't have problems with it getting gunky even after 5 months of use. the only exception was when i used plain water and it left a residue on the bottom

[Skittlez160]

yes on the humidifer, resmed autoset 10. i don't have problems with it getting gunky even after 5 months of use. the only exception was when i used plain water and it left a residue on the bottom

Okay good to know, thanks. I guess the filtered water is not good enough. Looks like it's back to buying distilled water.

[Zedbra]

I use the ResMed S9 BiPap machine and it is awesome. It is so quiet, my wife's breathing is louder, heated hose, and it automatically turns on and off. The water tank is small but is good for two days. When you need to clean the tank, it comes aprt in two pieces and is really quick and easy to clean. I always use distilled water.

Here is the water tank / humidifier

http://www.cpapmachinescanada.net/cpap-humidifiers-resmed-elite-s9-h5i.php

[SkinnyPupp]

its weed or nothing for me bruh

Trouble Sleeping? Here's How I Learned To Fall Asleep In Under 1 Minute Every Night - Higher Perspective (http://www.higherperspectives.com/fall-asleep-fast-1406160617.html)

u guys should give this a try

For a long time, I had a hard time sleeping. We can chock it up to bad food late at night, too many screens before bed, and stress. I found it incredibly difficult to shut my brain down and give it a break at night. After weeks of not being able to sleep a full night, a friend of mine told me about the "4-7-8" breathing trick.

But what is that?

This method was developed by a wellness practitioner, Harvard-educated Dr. Andrew Weil, who studies meditation, breathing, and how it can be used to counteract stress. It's easy to do. You breathe in through your nose for four seconds, hold it for seven seconds, and exhale through your mouth for eight seconds. She explained to me that it slows down your heart rate and it also releases chemicals in our brains that soothe you.

Pretty neat, huh? I was skeptical, but I tried it. It ended up working like a total charm. I was out before I reached my fourth repetition and it tends to knock me out easily in less than a minute.

This is good for more than just falling asleep though. When we're stressed, our endocrine system releases adrenaline through our adrenal glands. This elevates your heart rate and can make you feel jittery and unwell. Often times, your breathing also becomes rapid and shallow.

By using this breathing method, you counteract the natural effects of adrenaline and your body is forced to slow down your heart rate. It simply doesn't have a choice! When you begin, you may feel a tad uncomfortable.

But as you continue with it, you really do feel your heart rate slow and your mind clear. It's almost like you're spending a leisurely afternoon at a beach. So relaxing. Give it a try tonight and tell us what you think! You can also heck out Dr. Weil's site if you are interested in further reading.
Just wanted to reply thanking you, because this shit works like a fucking charm most of the time :thumbs:

[racerman88]

I clean the water compartment on my CPAP about once a week and no buildup.

[mr_chin]

Just got my machine and damn is it hard to get used to. I find that I'm very aware of it even I am asleep.

[Zedbra]

Just got my machine and damn is it hard to get used to. I find that I'm very aware of it even I am asleep.

It takes time - it took me over a year and several masks to get 'the right one'

[jeedee]

been wearing blue light blocking glasses for 1-5 hours before i sleep, i find im a lot more tired when i decide to get in bed.

hmmmm you're the second person that's recommended them. i might pick up a pair

http://www.amazon.ca/Uvex-S1933X-Eyewear-SCT-Orange-Anti-Fog/dp/B000USRG90

[Vansterdam]

hmmmm you're the second person that's recommended them. i might pick up a pair

http://www.amazon.ca/Uvex-S1933X-Eyewear-SCT-Orange-Anti-Fog/dp/B000USRG90



guessing those are good to wear while u watch tv/browse phone/comp before bed

[jeedee]

guessing those are good to wear while u watch tv/browse phone/comp before bed

yup. apparently the blue light caused by looking at your TV/phone/computer before bed "drains" your melatonin which causes you to have a difficult time falling asleep.

those glasses block the blue light and makes it easier to sleep supposedly.

[pankrationisfun]

mr_chin, yes it takes some getting use to. about 4 months for me but the quality of sleep that i'm getting now is amazing. i find when i do get sick, like a cold i recover much faster too

[racerman88]

It takes time - it took me over a year and several masks to get 'the right one'


I got a referral to an Eyes, ears and nose specialist. He confirmed that I did have slight sleep apnea.
I Went through clinical sleep solutions and they let me take a CPAP machine home to try out for a month.
It didn't take me long to get used to the machine.

[604STIG]

Has anyone here tried an Obstructive Spleep Apnea (OSA) Mouth Guard? I've been using the CPAP machine for about 3 weeks now, wondering about the alternative though?

[SupraTTturbo2jz]

for the past two weeks i've been having symptoms of difficulty breathing and waking up suddenly gasping for air with heart racing and just recently had a panic attack I believe. Anyone else gone through this and know how to prevent it? I never knew what it felt like and that it was serious until I felt it myself. Just a terrible uneasy feeling of dread. Is it something I should take to emergency?

[corollagtSr5]

Where do you guys buy those blue blocking glasses locally?

[320icar]

You're awake and fine, so no. Don't take that to emergency. Just go to your doctor and get s referral to a sleep specialist

[Spectre_Cdn]

yup. apparently the blue light caused by looking at your TV/phone/computer before bed "drains" your melatonin which causes you to have a difficult time falling asleep.

those glasses block the blue light and makes it easier to sleep supposedly.

The f.lux application for Windows/OSX can adjust your monitor's colour temperature at sunset, to reduce the blue light.

[jeedee]

Where do you guys buy those blue blocking glasses locally?

Can't really answer your question but if you're able/open to getting a new credit card; sign up for Amazon's Visa and you get a $20 giftcard. I used the giftcard credit to buy the glasses lol. Beats having to pay $31 shipped for them and I plan to use the Visa for online purchases so win-win.

OR

The glasses sell for like $9 USD on Amazon.com (which is odd since its $31 CDN on the .ca site) and get it shipped to Point Roberts

[jeedee]

The f.lux application for Windows/OSX can adjust your monitor's colour temperature at sunset, to reduce the blue light.

Good to know! I ordered the glasses and plan to use them when I'm browsing my phone before bed and while brushing my teeth lol

Don't think theres an application that can adjust/reduce blue light for those activities :lol

[Gerbs]

Let me know if it works

[jeedee]

hmmmm you're the second person that's recommended them. i might pick up a pair

http://www.amazon.ca/Uvex-S1933X-Eyewear-SCT-Orange-Anti-Fog/dp/B000USRG90

So after using these blue light blocking glasses for a week before bed these definitely help me fall asleep. Usually i use my phone before bed and found it hard to fall asleep.

Just don't wear these before a quick nap. I was planning to go out, take a 3 hour nap and wore the glasses < ended up passing out for 12 hours and just woke up now :lawl:

Definitely check these out if you have trouble falling asleep or staying asleep.

[racerman88]

for the past two weeks i've been having symptoms of difficulty breathing and waking up suddenly gasping for air with heart racing and just recently had a panic attack I believe. Anyone else gone through this and know how to prevent it? I never knew what it felt like and that it was serious until I felt it myself. Just a terrible uneasy feeling of dread. Is it something I should take to emergency?


Go to your doctor and tell him all the symptoms you are experiencing and ask if he can refer you to some specialist.

[TOPEC]

FYI, for people who uses iphones, the newest iOS that came out yesterday includes a new feature called "Night Shift" where when used, will slowly shift ur screens temperature from cool white to a warm yellow according to a preset time of ur choice or following the suns rise and set time. so same idea as those eye glasses that filters out the blue light?

[Vansterdam]

So after using these blue light blocking glasses for a week before bed these definitely help me fall asleep. Usually i use my phone before bed and found it hard to fall asleep.

Just don't wear these before a quick nap. I was planning to go out, take a 3 hour nap and wore the glasses < ended up passing out for 12 hours and just woke up now :lawl:

Definitely check these out if you have trouble falling asleep or staying asleep.

bought these glasses earlier this week when they were $25 down from $30 and now their $15 :fuuuuu:

get them now while their on sale lol

[mr_chin]

Has anyone here tried an Obstructive Spleep Apnea (OSA) Mouth Guard? I've been using the CPAP machine for about 3 weeks now, wondering about the alternative though?

I tried the CPAP for a month with 2 different masks. Couldn't sleep more than 3 hours before taking them off. I keep waking up with the sense that I am wearing it and extremely uncomfortable.

I took the machine back and the specialist told me to go see my dentist for an oral appliance that helps with OSA. However, these are usually not covered by insurance and can be in the thousands of dollars.

Then, coincidentally today, I went to London Drugs and was looking for breath rite strips and saw an oral appliance for sale for $39.95. It's suppose to keep your lower jaw forward so that your airway is opened. I didn't buy it though, just letting you know if you're interested in trying a mouth guard and don't want to spend your life savings for one.

[Zedbra]

I tried the CPAP for a month with 2 different masks. Couldn't sleep more than 3 hours before taking them off. I keep waking up with the sense that I am wearing it and extremely uncomfortable.

I took the machine back and the specialist told me to go see my dentist for an oral appliance that helps with OSA. However, these are usually not covered by insurance and can be in the thousands of dollars.



Depending on what company you use will depend on how much service they will provide to get you into the right mask and pressure set-up. I used Westcare in Coquitlam and I tried about ten different masks and slowly increased my pressures to where I needed them in order to get used to sleeping with the mask.

Yes, their prices are higher than buying online - but the service to get my needs set-up correctly was invaluable as I need this machine to prevent heart and brain issues. If you require a CPAP, I recommend you find a specialist that will work with you to make a CPAP work for you. Your health, your choice.

[mr_chin]

Depending on what company you use will depend on how much service they will provide to get you into the right mask and pressure set-up. I used Westcare in Coquitlam and I tried about ten different masks and slowly increased my pressures to where I needed them in order to get used to sleeping with the mask.

Yes, their prices are higher than buying online - but the service to get my needs set-up correctly was invaluable as I need this machine to prevent heart and brain issues. If you require a CPAP, I recommend you find a specialist that will work with you to make a CPAP work for you. Your health, your choice.

Yeah, I saw the online prices and they're cheaper by more than 50%. If anything, I'm gonna buy online.

[racerman88]

Check with your extended health coverage as well as most cover CPAP machines to some extent.

[mr_chin]

Check with your extended health coverage as well as most cover CPAP machines to some extent.

I'm with sunlife and in the processing of discussing with customer service. They said they have to verify the website and with the seller that the machines are indeed qualified CPAP machines.

I'm looking at machines on cpap.com.

[racerman88]

Should be interesting to see if they cover it.
Maybe you should emphasize that you are saving their company money by doing so.

[Zedbra]

My company is with Sunlife and our coverage will pay for all my apnea leads. My doctor wrote a letter that said I will need the machine for life to prevent brain and heart damage. Now, even all my additional parts are covered, as the masks and hoses do wear.

[racerman88]

If that is the case, then why not buy local to save yourself any hassle?

[mr_chin]

If that is the case, then why not buy local to save yourself any hassle?

Hmm? Fill me in on any hassle buying online please because I am going to pull the trigger once I get an answer from sunlife.

Sunlife is only covering 80% of my CPAP machine and equipment and I was quoted $2235 for everything. So all in all, if I buy online I'm saving about $300.

[Zedbra]

Hmm? Fill me in on any hassle buying online please because I am going to pull the trigger once I get an answer from sunlife.

Sunlife is only covering 80% of my CPAP machine and equipment and I was quoted $2235 for everything. So all in all, if I buy online I'm saving about $300.

Online may save you some money up front, but if you get a mask that doesn't fit properly, you are out of pocket buying another until you get it right. I went through about 8 different masks until I tried one that fit - and all of that was free through the clinic.

[mr_chin]

Online may save you some money up front, but if you get a mask that doesn't fit properly, you are out of pocket buying another until you get it right. I went through about 8 different masks until I tried one that fit - and all of that was free through the clinic.

I'm pretty set on the nose pillows as I find myself scratching my face/nose in the middle of the night and anything that covers more than that will be bothersome.

Sunlife has sent in my application for buying online from the U.S for review. It will take 3 business days to get an answer.

One question. I don't know if you have sinus issues or allergies, but have you ever or do you still use the CPAP when you're sick or have a stuffy nose?

I find that I have to breathe through my left nostril in order to sleep better.

When I sleep, I have to make sure I'm breathing through my left nostril and my right one basically doesn't take in any air, even with CPAP. Without CPAP, it cycles back and forth over night, but when using CPAP, it doesn't cycle at all.

[racerman88]

I found that the CPAP actually helped me breathe better when I had my allergies.


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[mr_chin]

Should be interesting to see if they cover it.
Maybe you should emphasize that you are saving their company money by doing so.

Got confirmation that they will cover US providers and online providers as long as you have a prescription. CPAP.com requires that you have a prescription before they sell you a machine.

You also (obviously) need a receipt with your name, providers name, and the items purchased listed in parts.

My plan covers 80% and machine can be replaced every 60 months. Supplies limited to masks, hose, etc. can be replaced without a doctors referral (not sure if it was a typo). Some supplies aren't covered such as batteries, distilled water, etc.

This is with sunlife btw.

[wc19]

noticed my sleeping quality has been poor lately and thinking it may be due to a stuffy nose, saw the gp and got me a nasal spray with cortisone but so far hasn't had much effect on unblocking the nose. Anyone have experience with this before?

[Mr.Money]

noticed my sleeping quality has been poor lately and thinking it may be due to a stuffy nose, saw the gp and got me a nasal spray with cortisone but so far hasn't had much effect on unblocking the nose. Anyone have experience with this before?

try an air filter,there expensive but worth it....might be crap floating in the air inflaming ur nose,just because you cant it doesn't mean it isnt there.

[mr_chin]

noticed my sleeping quality has been poor lately and thinking it may be due to a stuffy nose, saw the gp and got me a nasal spray with cortisone but so far hasn't had much effect on unblocking the nose. Anyone have experience with this before?

Have you tried sleeping on your side? With the stuffed nostril on the bottom?

[SkinnyPupp]

noticed my sleeping quality has been poor lately and thinking it may be due to a stuffy nose, saw the gp and got me a nasal spray with cortisone but so far hasn't had much effect on unblocking the nose. Anyone have experience with this before?
You might be able to clear it up by taking spirulina, 2g a day

The effects of spirulina on allergic rhinitis. - PubMed - NCBI (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18343939)

For a nasal spray that actually works, otrivin. Be careful, it's really addictive. It's easy to kick though, you return to baseline after 1-2 days of non use. Getting past the first night of a rebounded stuffy nose really sucks though, so it takes some will power.

[racerman88]

How often do you replace the mask?

Any other parts need to be replaced?

Are you still using it?



I got prescribed to one after I got diagnosed with mild sleep apnea.

Gonna pick it up on the 9th for a one month trial.


Sorry it took so long for me to get back to you.
My extended health covers the mask every two years and machine 5yrs.
If you clean it at least once a week it will last. It's the oils from your face that affect the thin rubber on the masks.


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[mr_chin]

Even when I use the CPAP, my jaw would tend to tense up when I'm asleep. My tongue would be stuck to the ceiling of my mouth and I figure this is what is causing my airway to shut.

Bought SnoreGuard from London Drugs for $50 and used it with CPAP. My sleep improved drastically.

[Zedbra]

Even when I use the CPAP, my jaw would tend to tense up when I'm asleep. My tongue would be stuck to the ceiling of my mouth and I figure this is what is causing my airway to shut.

Bought SnoreGuard from London Drugs for $50 and used it with CPAP. My sleep improved drastically.

You may need your pressure increased on the CPAP

[swiftshift]

Metaloin! Could help

[mr_chin]

Metaloin! Could help

I wish.

People who have CPAP most likely went through every method possible before going on CPAP, at least I did. It's not fun wearing a mask to sleep.

[wc19]

try an air filter,there expensive but worth it....might be crap floating in the air inflaming ur nose,just because you cant it doesn't mean it isnt there.

Thanks, I am thinking I may try the air filter as one of my last resorts.

Have you tried sleeping on your side? With the stuffed nostril on the bottom?

I am going to try that tonight, has that been something you tried before?

You might be able to clear it up by taking spirulina, 2g a day

The effects of spirulina on allergic rhinitis. - PubMed - NCBI (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18343939)

For a nasal spray that actually works, otrivin. Be careful, it's really addictive. It's easy to kick though, you return to baseline after 1-2 days of non use. Getting past the first night of a rebounded stuffy nose really sucks though, so it takes some will power.

Thanks Skinny, my doctor referred me to a allergy specialist who did their test and afterwards just recommended to do the allergy shot which was something I didn't want to do. I'm going to check out spirulina actually, thank you!

[blkgsr]

Good to know! I ordered the glasses and plan to use them when I'm browsing my phone before bed and while brushing my teeth lol

Don't think theres an application that can adjust/reduce blue light for those activities :lol

chect out Twilight

i use it and it's great

[dlo]

stop doing coke and voila...

on a real note tho, is there good air circulation in your room?
if u have a headset, wipe it down if its really dusty, use an air humidifer/filter too, not too expensive about 50$ for the cheapest

[johnyw]

Thanks Skinny, my doctor referred me to a allergy specialist who did their test and afterwards just recommended to do the allergy shot which was something I didn't want to do. I'm going to check out spirulina actually, thank you!

Did you try it? I'm reading a lot about it and would like to try it, so I was wondering does it really help?

[racerman88]

Did you try it? I'm reading a lot about it and would like to try it, so I was wondering does it really help?



The first time I did allergy shots I was good after for another 3 years.
When my allergies got bad again and I did the shots again, it only worked for that year.


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