[Meowjin]

Not sure if this is the right forum. But I'm in the market for a scooter. Work is 5 minutes away, and with school being 15 minutes away and gas prices skyrocketing i don't mind saving some cash and I recently just sold my car.

Also if this thread turns into scooters are for fags go fuck yourself.

and I don't wanna hear that "vancouver weather sucks" because I rode a fucking bicycle for 5 years in the rain and snow to get to work. You guys are just lazy pussies.

[TypeRNammer]

I had a Derbi Bullet before, for stock scooter, it can top out at 80km/h, even with a passenger too!

[Presto]

Personally, I'd want a Honda Ruckus
http://www.hondaruckusforsale.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/honda-ruckus.jpg

[bcrdukes]

Any Honda, Yamaha, Derbi, Sym (uses Honda motors) Kymco, Piaggio, Vespa, Aprilia will be fine. Keep the displacement at 49cc and you're golden.

Avoid retarded brands like Hyosung, Lifan and anything that sounds Korean or Chinese. You will get fucked up the ass.

[Eastwood]

Scooters are like fat chicks, fun to ride, but you don't want to be seen on one ;)

[smoothie.]

Any Honda, Yamaha, Derbi, Sym (uses Honda motors) Kymco, Piaggio, Vespa, Aprilia will be fine. Keep the displacement at 49cc and you're golden.

Avoid retarded brands like Hyosung, Lifan and anything that sounds Korean or Chinese. You will get fucked up the ass.

but Lifans are soooooo cheap :fullofwin:

Whats the top 2 scooters that can legally have 2 people? In terms of reliability, maintenance costs, upfront costs, speed, of course.

[!Aznboi128]

kymco Super 8

http://www.motorcyclesupermarket.com/images/bikes/images/4608265.1561356569.jpg

looks like that lol its pretty nice and quick gets off the line faster then a stock ruckus and what have you, I got a friend that's selling one for cheap too!

[Nightwalker]

http://zoomerboys.freeflux.net/files/images/blog/easyzoomer.jpg

Modded Ruckus look the coolest, by far. Hell, even stock.

[ae101]

plus one for the ruckus
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSRSVfgHRHu36zPpuRnUOQMUUwTAAnSp uvsaB1ouskNgedRVA050RTf9RA48w

[SumAznGuy]

I love the looks of the Ruckus. I have a thing for wide tires.

But I also like the Aprilia SR50.

[rJZx]

ruckus gsxr 600cc test ride - YouTube

[ilvtofu]

Ruckus looks cool but doesn't have a good underseat storage and everyone seems to ignore the fact that it's a 4 stroke...

[bcrdukes]

everyone seems to ignore the fact that it's a 4 stroke...

This is inevitable. 2-stroke is a thing of the past. You'd be hard pressed to find new 2-stroke scooters in the North American market.

[!Aznboi128]

the Kymco Super 8 is 2 stroke
:D


found one online for 2k
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/mcy/2862333466.html

this is a pretty good deal as new its over 3 and its basicly new low kms

[whitev70r]

For what it's worth, I heard the Honda Ruckus is one of the slowest scoots out there. That and plus what other poster said, no storage. Yamaha has a couple with 125cc (BWS, VINO). Honda has 100cc, 125cc, 150cc, and more. You may want to try that out, I'd at least go with 100cc. I've sat on a 50cc and it sounds like my gas lawnmower, not feeling confident on that in case you need to get yourself out of a jam.

If you want to move up to motorcycle, Honda has a 125cc CBR model that will be great on gas and a lot more fun to ride. Used ones go for less than $2000.

[SumAznGuy]

For what it's worth, I heard the Honda Ruckus is one of the slowest scoots out there. That and plus what other poster said, no storage. Yamaha has a couple with 125cc (BWS, VINO). Honda has 100cc, 125cc, 150cc, and more. You may want to try that out, I'd at least go with 100cc. I've sat on a 50cc and it sounds like my gas lawnmower, not feeling confident on that in case you need to get yourself out of a jam.

If you want to move up to motorcycle, Honda has a 125cc CBR model that will be great on gas and a lot more fun to ride. Used ones go for less than $2000.

I think the reason OP mentioned a 50 cc scooter is because these are all auto's and he doesn't need to go out and get a class 6/8 liscence.

Even a 50 cc YSR with a 5 speed manual requires a motorbike liscence to legally ride around town.

[Culverin]

I did a fair amount of research before buying...
A 50cc scooter falls under "limited speed motorcycle", technically you're only supposed to

max out at 70 km/h. But a 2-stroke right from the dealer will be faster than that.

To me, the top speed isn't the biggest concern, it's that 50cc has barely enough to get

by.
Example:
- On a hill, my cousin's Jazz can do about 45km/h. I'm bombing up hills at 65km/h.
- I can beat most cars off the line. Her Jazz barely keeps up with them.
I can live with a 2-stroke, but when I think about having cars blast past me 20km/h faster on a hill... a 4-stroke just doesn't feel very safe.



For BEST I'd say the Aprilia SR50, it's pretty much THE premium sports scooter out there.

- 2-stroke, more power than a 4-stroke.
- front AND rear disc brakes.
- Liquid cooled
- fuel injected, extremely fuel efficient.
- The suspension is really good, it just hugs the corners.
- With unlocked ECU and mild upgrades, I'm doing over 90km/h. My friend with a fuel

regulator installed is doing over 100km/h
- Digital dash

Downsides:
- The trunk doesn't fit a full-face helmet
- After market parts are limited though :(




fyi,
My Second scooter is a Bugeye, a Yamaha BWS.
The sheer number of available parts for it are staggering.
I bought this purely as a toy to turn into a beastly rocket, just never got around to doing it.

1. 2-stroke
2. Front disc brakes
3. The trunk will fit a full-face helmet.

Shameless plug:
Yes, I'm looking to sell it off.
VERY low Kms (I think might have just broken 2000km hahahaha, still practically a virgin :p).
Also have the sport Screen.

[Meowjin]

I live in richmond, and its flat so I wont have any issues with hills.

So I guess the concession is a 2 stroke is best? I believe the derbi is a 2 stroke and it's pretty cheap used.

And i'm not looking to spend more than 2 grand used.

[NNT]

why used if you can get new?

http://gacheckpoint.com/motorsports/scooters

cant beat japanese reliability. I ride a 2 stroke Vino before (now Aprilia SR50). highly suggest the 2 stroke BWs.

[bcrdukes]

New would put him over his $2000 budget.

Majin - for $2000, you can get a nice 2-stroke Yamaha BWS with enough money leftover for at least a helmet and some insurance.

[Firmware]

inb4 scooters are not for fags.

[dachinesedude]

ruckus FTW

pull the rear wheel out and put some fat tires on it, looks sick

[Mr.Ping]

Kymco probably best bang for bucks

[Renthal]

I used to rent scooters.. we had the ruckus, jazz and BW
ruckus was the slowest by far, but looked the coolest
the newer model Jazz's were pretty quick actually 70 kmh ish, pretty durable, and nice and quiet
the BW was pretty handy with room for 2, good storage, better styling then the Jazz, and good power, would get up to 80 k if i remember correctly.. i dont think the BW would bog down as bad on hills as compared to the Jazz

[A-Dev]

To bad we don't have these 50cc Aprilia's here.

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/201202/aprilia-rs-50-4_800x0w.jpg

[donjalapeno]

with gas prices going up i wouldnt be suprised if vancouver looks like this soon,

http://thecoolgadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/scooter-traffic-congestion.jpg

[dachinesedude]

so much potential, see if this will convince you to get a ruckus

Ruckus Tribute - YouTube

[Tetsugen]

Anyone here ever have the 250cc Big Ruckus ?

[Meowjin]

ruckus generally gets bad reviews. unless you get the 250.

storage is kinda of a big deal for me as I will use this to get to campus.

http://gacheckpoint.com/products/2009-yamaha-bws-3

also this seems to be in my pricerange and I can finance it.

[SumAznGuy]

To bad we don't have these 50cc Aprilia's here.

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/201202/aprilia-rs-50-4_800x0w.jpg

Is this thing importable into Canada or is it on the never allow list?

[SkinnyPupp]

I used to rent scooters.. we had the ruckus, jazz and BW
ruckus was the slowest by far, but looked the coolest
the newer model Jazz's were pretty quick actually 70 kmh ish, pretty durable, and nice and quiet
the BW was pretty handy with room for 2, good storage, better styling then the Jazz, and good power, would get up to 80 k if i remember correctly.. i dont think the BW would bog down as bad on hills as compared to the Jazz
Aren't the 49cc's limited to 50 KM/h?

[Renthal]

I don't think so, but you would have to check ICBC to be sure… most scooters from any of the big brands can go over 50k and are sold all over BC at motorcycle shops

[SkinnyPupp]

When I rented scooters, they were Honda Jazz and locked at 50 KM/h. I thought that was the rule for 49cc's but maybe the rental place did it? That would be :fulloffuck:

Edit; they're locked at 70 KM/h (http://www.icbc.com/registration-licensing/specialty-vehicles/low-powered/motor-assisted#different_rules)

[Timpo]

Not sure if this is the right forum. But I'm in the market for a scooter. Work is 5 minutes away, and with school being 15 minutes away and gas prices skyrocketing i don't mind saving some cash and I recently just sold my car.

Also if this thread turns into scooters are for fags go fuck yourself.

and I don't wanna hear that "vancouver weather sucks" because I rode a fucking bicycle for 5 years in the rain and snow to get to work. You guys are just lazy pussies.

Have you looked into eBikes?

I say this because eBikes are cheaper because you don't have to pay gas. Also they don't require insurance.
If you do the math, the savings are quite substantial...also eBikes are getting so powerful that it can easily beat scooters (go on youtube).
Some of them can go more than 100km/h...although it's not recommended.

If you want a reliable transportation, maybe just buy a BionX kit or something. There's a lot out there though.

IMO, eBikes look better than scooters...

http://www.mtb-windhaag.com/uploads/pics/Energo_Race_48_teamorange-white.jpg

[SkinnyPupp]

Ebikes are limited to 32 km/h

[skyxx]

Is this thing importable into Canada or is it on the never allow list?

Those things aren't road legal.

[Timpo]

106 km/h electric bicycle 66mph - YouTube
Luc59457: Fastest Currie E-bike Tire 120+MPH Kills The Reflector - AFTERMATH! - YouTube

[bcrdukes]

Is this thing importable into Canada or is it on the never allow list?
Those things aren't road legal.

According to RIV:


Admissible
2000 Aprilia RSV Mille 1000
2001 Aprilia RSV Mille R
2002 AND 2003 Aprilia RST Futura
2003 Coponord 1000, SR50 (LSM)
2004 and newer models*

Inadmissible
All other models

*So I believe it is possible. You have to make it street legal and pass provincial inspection.

[Meowjin]

I think culverin maybe hooking me up with his old yamaha. Revscene is great.

[falcon]

The best in my opinion, having ridden and sold them all at work is the BWS50. Rugged, simple 2 stroke, hauls ass, and simple bolt ons can make it top out over 90-100kph. Bore the motor a bit and you're at 120kph. And it has Yamaha reliability which is above and beyond literally everything else out there (yes, including Honduh).

[falcon]

When I rented scooters, they were Honda Jazz and locked at 50 KM/h. I thought that was the rule for 49cc's but maybe the rental place did it? That would be :fulloffuck:

Edit; they're locked at 70 KM/h (http://www.icbc.com/registration-licensing/specialty-vehicles/low-powered/motor-assisted#different_rules)

Not "locked", they just cant physically go faster.

[SkinnyPupp]

Not "locked", they just cant physically go faster.
With aftermarket modifications?

[tool001]

whatever you guys get, make sure to wear proper gear with it. falling on asphalt without protection isn't too much fun (no matter if ur going 10K or 51 k).

too many stupid drivers out thr, specially summer. due to low profile (size and noise ) of scooter, its less safer than motorcycle.

[MC21]

Knee dragging machines:

Brand New HRC Honda NSR50 (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/mcy/2921710780.html)

[falcon]

With aftermarket modifications?

Four stroke 50cc scooters are dogs. No aftermarket additions will help.

[Timpo]

Wait...you want something cheap on gas right?

What about Mitsuoka K3? It's powered by 49cc engine.

http://homepage3.nifty.com/worldtraveller/japan/mitsuoka01.jpg
http://homepage3.nifty.com/worldtraveller/japan/mitsuoka02.jpg
http://homepage3.nifty.com/worldtraveller/japan/mitsuoka03.jpg

[Timpo]

another 49cc car...Mitsuoka K2

https://img03.carview.co.jp/trade/img03/cars/1139755/8391783/01.jpg

[Timpo]

and more

http://dspeed.fc2web.com/photo/19.6.15-66.JPG

[Timpo]

Mitsuoka Bubu

http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/51/2d/c47584f39f09cb08ec9b110d9e86a487.jpg
http://www.geocities.co.jp/WallStreet-Bull/3640/bubu.jpg

[Timpo]

Takeoka Abbey

Again, 50cc :)

http://f.hatena.ne.jp/images/fotolife/n/nakazonoharuki/20120305/20120305141729.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5255/5418165182_e4115ee3c3.jpg
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzdrk4pEsF1qb0lf4o1_500.jpg

[Timpo]

QPod

British 50cc car!

http://www.qdoscars.co.uk/images/range/qpod/city/clare-in-city.jpg
http://www.kentbuggies.co.uk/SECMAimages/Qpod%20Sport/qpodsportaction6.jpg

[cressydrift]

Vespa Ciao
Vespa Ciao Wheely 3 - YouTube

[whitev70r]

whatever you guys get, make sure to wear proper gear with it. falling on asphalt without protection isn't too much fun (no matter if ur going 10K or 51 k).

too many stupid drivers out thr, specially summer. due to low profile (size and noise ) of scooter, its less safer than motorcycle.

This and I've always thought that there should be some sort of mandatory course before you're allowed to ride these scoots. I think in Que, you have to take a 7 hr course, then pass an exam online before you're certified to ride. Not a bad idea, keep course and tests simple but make sure people get some basics.

[dru]

Not sure if you made up your mind yet, but there is a 2007 CBR125R on BCSB right now for $1500. That's a killer deal IMO, you'll have to take your Class 6 though. I think it's a good entry to two wheel motoring.

I started on one of those and it's super fun to commute on, really cheap on insurance and gas and has enough pep to get you out of sticky situations in the city. Ahhh, just thinking about rowing through gears makes me want to pick one up myself!

[Meowjin]

This and I've always thought that there should be some sort of mandatory course before you're allowed to ride these scoots. I think in Que, you have to take a 7 hr course, then pass an exam online before you're certified to ride. Not a bad idea, keep course and tests simple but make sure people get some basics.

if i can ride from south to north vietnam on a motorcycle top gear style , I think ill be ok to ride a 50cc scooter.

thats what a class 7 license is for. lol.

[Meowjin]

Not sure if you made up your mind yet, but there is a 2007 CBR125R on BCSB right now for $1500. That's a killer deal IMO, you'll have to take your Class 6 though. I think it's a good entry to two wheel motoring.

I started on one of those and it's super fun to commute on, really cheap on insurance and gas and has enough pep to get you out of sticky situations in the city. Ahhh, just thinking about rowing through gears makes me want to pick one up myself!

it's not practical imo. and i wont fit on it.

[whitev70r]

if i can ride from south to north vietnam on a motorcycle top gear style , I think ill be ok to ride a 50cc scooter.

thats what a class 7 license is for. lol.

Great that you are experienced so if there was a mandatory test, you'd pass with flying colours. BUT there are lots of people who are just getting into it, that's who I was referring to, not you specifically. As an experienced rider, don't you think that it would be helpful for the noobies?

[MK-EK]

get a ruckus!

i love mine :D

[Timpo]

Specialized Turbo e-bike is too fast and furious for the western world (video)
By Terrence O'Brien posted Mar 30th 2012 6:59PM

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/03/3-30-2012specializedturbo.jpg

While not quite the fastest commercially available e-bike in the world as some have suggested (as far as we can tell, that claim belongs to a DIY kit out of Taiwan by a company called Cyclone), the Specialized Turbo is still a speedy little beast. In fact, it's fast enough to find itself on the wrong side of the law both here in the US and across most of Europe. The 250 W rear hub motor is powerful enough to get this guy up to about 28 MPH, or 8 MPH over the legal limit here in America. It's the other features, though, that make this guy particularly interesting. The frame has integrated LED head and tail lights, regenerative breaking and the 342 Wh battery can be juiced in just two hours from an outlet. There's even a backlit display that lets you monitor charge and assistance level, as well as standard bike computer stats like speed, distance and time. Oh, and it even supports ANT+ for wirelessly connecting with your existing accessories. The Specialized Turbo is expected to land in some European nations in May for €5,499. Check out the video after the break to see it in action.

Specialized Turbo - Fast - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UjbkfVamXcI)

[Meowjin]

Great that you are experienced so if there was a mandatory test, you'd pass with flying colours. BUT there are lots of people who are just getting into it, that's who I was referring to, not you specifically. As an experienced rider, don't you think that it would be helpful for the noobies?

i dont know what they oculd teach you that would be any different from riding a bicycle.

[jaemc]

I've personally got a Ruckus myself and I love it. First got a ride on my co-workers Ruckus 2 years ago and I fell in love right after that. Couldn't resist smiling when I got off that thing. I've tested other 49cc scooters out there. There are faster scooters out there but I love the look of the Rucks.

If ya live in Richmond gimme a holler if you wanted a test ride or something. It's one of things you gotta ride it to believe it. I can't complain about it going slow or whatever its an A to B commute for dirt cheap. Gas and insurance is hella reasonable considering the prices for gas and insurance for cars these days.

Gluck finding a scooter! :D

[46_valentinor]

i dont know what they oculd teach you that would be any different from riding a bicycle.
one thing that i see often is that their lane positioning is terrible. i always see people on scooters riding lane position number 2 (center) even when it is oil and greasy as hell. one abrupt movement can cause an accident. the main differences between a full blown 1000cc sportbike and a scooter is basically the faster speed and a manual transmission, everything else especially road sense is the same in the city when going 50km/h!

[doma]

Electric Bike Vancouver – Freedom Road (http://freedom-road.ca/)

http://freedom-road.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/DSC05727.jpg

pm me if you want a test drive

[twitchyzero]

To bad we don't have these 50cc Aprilia's here.


how much are one of those? Wouldn't you need class 6/7 cause it's over 49cc?

[bcrdukes]

how much are one of those? Wouldn't you need class 6/7 cause it's over 49cc?

I believe you would need a Class 6/7 due to the fact that it is a manually operated transmission. As per ICBC's Definition (http://www.icbc.com/registration-licensing/specialty-vehicles/low-powered/moped#):


Limited-speed motorcycle
Has no more than a 50 cubic cm engine displacement or 1.5 kilowatt motor rating
Does not need clutching or shifting after the drive system is engaged
Has a maximum speed on level ground of 70 km/h and weighs no more than 95 kilograms, excluding fuel and batteries
Must have wheels that are 25.4 cm in diameter or more

[Presto]

Specialized Turbo e-bike is too fast and furious for the western world (video)
By Terrence O'Brien posted Mar 30th 2012 6:59PM

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/03/3-30-2012specializedturbo.jpg



I like how sleeper that bike is. It's way too expensive, though.

[ilvtofu]

I like how sleeper that bike is. It's way too expensive, though.

I had the chance to ride one of these last month
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/423216_10150581846892912_505467911_9150728_1828197 612_n.jpg

Costs about the same as a lightly used econobox but it fucking rips lol, does effortless wheelies thanks to that electric motor.

Stealth Electric Bikes Australia | Bomber | Electric Bike (http://stealthelectricbikes.com.au/bomber.html)

Strictly a rich man's toy though, not for the commuter/penny pinching alternative by any means

[Ronin]

Friend of mine has a Ruckus and it's fantastic. The shop I buy my glasses from is owned by a guy with a pimpin white Ruckus. I'm thinking of getting one this summer too.

[MK-EK]

^ billy @ continental center ;)

[falcon]

Electric Bike Vancouver – Freedom Road (http://freedom-road.ca/)

http://freedom-road.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/DSC05727.jpg

pm me if you want a test drive

Cool things, BUT... they are illegal to be driven on any public roads without insurance like everyone seems to do.

[falcon]

Rukus' are slow as shit.

[VK79]

I had the chance to ride one of these last month
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/423216_10150581846892912_505467911_9150728_1828197 612_n.jpg

Costs about the same as a lightly used econobox but it fucking rips lol, does effortless wheelies thanks to that electric motor.

Stealth Electric Bikes Australia | Bomber | Electric Bike (http://stealthelectricbikes.com.au/bomber.html)

Strictly a rich man's toy though, not for the commuter/penny pinching alternative by any means

DO you know anyone local who has one?

Was thinking of ordering an optibike for this summer but that seems to be a much better bike overall. (80k/hr + 2h charge time!!)

[Manic!]

Rukus' are slow as shit.

It's a Honda.

Engine swap time.


You can also get clones from China.

A Midtown 50 ( Ruckus Clone) Motor Scooter Moped (http://www.metropolitanscooters.net/servlet/the-81/motor-scooter-new-50cc/Detail)

also found this beast:
http://usawholesalescooters.com/ruggedad.jpg

[ilvtofu]

DO you know anyone local who has one?

Was thinking of ordering an optibike for this summer but that seems to be a much better bike overall. (80k/hr + 2h charge time!!)

I can definitely look into sourcing one for you. IMO my biggest concern is leaving one parked on the street and having it stolen. Genuinely costs a pretty penny ~14k iirc :/
But yeah its pretty fast and will probably outrun an entry level sport bike at city speeds

[doma]

Cool things, BUT... they are illegal to be driven on any public roads without insurance like everyone seems to do.

Wrong, they are legal to drive on any public road, they follow the exact same laws as pedal bikes.

[VK79]

I can definitely look into sourcing one for you. IMO my biggest concern is leaving one parked on the street and having it stolen. Genuinely costs a pretty penny ~14k iirc :/
But yeah its pretty fast and will probably outrun an entry level sport bike at city speeds

Oh, what I ment was if you know of anyone who has bought one who can let me try it or if not let me know how it's like to own it. (Kinda like the optibike ambassador program). I ship commercial stuff all the time so buying it & getting it over is not the issue.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[ilvtofu]

Oh, what I ment was if you know of anyone who has bought one who can let me try it or if not let me know how it's like to own it. (Kinda like the optibike ambassador program). I ship commercial stuff all the time so buying it & getting it over is not the issue.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Oh haha no worries, I actually don't know anyone who has one right now, the one I tried out has been sold. The only weird thing about the bike is the weight/weight distribution, it's heavy and all the weight is in the back, otherwise it's super comfy and quiet.

[dealt]

Wow...I really want one now...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs530.ash1/31122_423564738435_181378263435_5543321_495074_n.j pg

[knockoff]

im kind of late, but i own a 2005 bws.

costs 6 dollars even at these gas prices, hits 65km routinely on my way to work on the flat, and going uphill never dips below 55.

i also live in richmond, and if i want to head into vancouver, oak street is the only way. that or the skytrain foot passenger bridge, but i feel like a jerk heading that way.

either way, the scooter is a blast, and yes, i drive mine rain or shine.

good luch with your search!

[Meowjin]

wait what the skytrain has a foot bridge?

[falcon]

Wrong, they are legal to drive on any public road, they follow the exact same laws as pedal bikes.

Incorrect. Anything with a motor, electric or not is required to have valid insurance.

[tgill]

wait what the skytrain has a foot bridge?
Canada Line crossing the river.
http://buzzer.translink.ca/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/bridgeapproach.jpg

[SumAznGuy]

Incorrect. Anything with a motor, electric or not is required to have valid insurance.

ICBC | Electric bikes (http://www.icbc.com/registration-licensing/specialty-vehicles/low-powered/motor-assisted)

According to ICBC, an electric motor assisted bicycle does not need insurance.
An e-scooter with no pedals does need insurance.

[LenovoTurbo]

What about a bicycle with a 49cc motor installed? Would it consider as a motor assisted bicycle or LSM or it's just plain illegal?

[LP700-4]

^Plain illegal. Don't ask how i know :whistle:

[falcon]

ICBC | Electric bikes (http://www.icbc.com/registration-licensing/specialty-vehicles/low-powered/motor-assisted)

According to ICBC, an electric motor assisted bicycle does not need insurance.
An e-scooter with no pedals does need insurance.

That's what I was referring to. An e-scooter. Because that's what was linked. :rukidding:

[whitev70r]

Cycle BC - Two-Hour Scooter Rental, Gas, and Insurance $20 (http://www.livingsocial.com/cities/57/deals/280500-two-hour-scooter-rental-gas-and-insurance)

Hey people, since we're talking about scoots, give this a try. Coupon for 2 hr rental at $20 @ Living Social. Revscene meet?

[doma]

That's what I was referring to. An e-scooter. Because that's what was linked. :rukidding:

These have pedals, and are thus pedal assisted, and are completely legal to drive on public roads.

[Fi2e]

ruckus are slower. get a 2 stroke if u wanna go "faster". but who gets a scooter to go fast? :fulloffuck:

[LP700-4]

Didnt want to bump the thread, but i searched all over rs and bcsb and still coudnt find the answer.

Can you ride a 50cc scooter around the city unsupervised without any motorcycle license and only a learner's license (7L)?

So many different answers in each of the threads i looked through :fulloffuck:

[LenovoTurbo]

Didnt want to bump the thread, but i searched all over rs and bcsb and still coudnt find the answer.

Can you ride a 50cc scooter around the city unsupervised without any motorcycle license and only a learner's license (7L)?

So many different answers in each of the threads i looked through :fulloffuck:

ICBC | Electric bikes (http://www.icbc.com/registration-licensing/specialty-vehicles/low-powered/motor-assisted)
You must have a driver’s licence of any class. You can not operate on a learner’s licence other than a Class 6 or 8 motorcycle learner’s licence.

Need at least a N.

[LP700-4]

What if I go out and take my motorcycle knowledge test ? Would I have to follow the same rules as motorcycles? Ex. No riding before sunrise and after sunset.

[falcon]

no, not for the scooter. only if you were on a motorcycle.

[d1]

Canada Line crossing the river.

http://buzzer.translink.ca/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/bridgeapproach.jpg

So do people who drive their 50cc scooters usually take this route into/out of Richmond? I wouldn't feel safe on any of the normal bridges but if this foot bridge is actually a viable option, I'd strongly consider getting one for my summer commutes.

[LP700-4]

The foot bridge is usually only people and bicycles. I've only seen 1 gas powered scooter cross the bridge. Other times its usually only electric powered bikes

[falcon]

So do people who drive their 50cc scooters usually take this route into/out of Richmond? I wouldn't feel safe on any of the normal bridges but if this foot bridge is actually a viable option, I'd strongly consider getting one for my summer commutes.

If you don't feel comfortable riding over a bridge with a 60kph limit, don't buy a scooter. You'll be a hazard to everyone.

[d1]

So are you speaking from experience that it's fine? Oak might have a 60km/h speed limit but people are still driving over it at 80km/h+ while some 50cc's top out at 5x km/h.

[RabidRat]

I have to ask - what is so appealing about riding a scooter? Is it really so much cheaper on gas than a motorcycle that it justifies topping out at 60kph? It doesn't seem any safer either, I would think the biggest danger is still other drivers not seeing you and taking you out.

Edit: Actually I would think it's even more dangerous as people on scooters don't seem to wear any sort of gear at all. So you'd get even more fucked if a car ran you over =p

[falcon]

So are you speaking from experience that it's fine? Oak might have a 60km/h speed limit but people are still driving over it at 80km/h+ while some 50cc's top out at 5x km/h.

Given that this is a car forum, I am assuming you drive a car. In case you didn't notice, nearly everyone goes 20kph over the limit... everywhere. So if you're scared of 80kph on the Oak St. bridge, you'll be scared everywhere. Just saying.

Yeah, and I am somewhat speaking from experience. I've been riding motorcycles for 7 years and scooters, when driven correctly in a proper manner, are fun, cheap and safe. Nothing bothers me more than driving down a street with some tool on a 50cc scooter going 20kph with the throttle half open, hugging the sidewalk. Either drive IN traffic the way you're supposed to or GTFO the road.

[LP700-4]

I have to ask - what is so appealing about riding a scooter? Is it really so much cheaper on gas than a motorcycle that it justifies topping out at 60kph? It doesn't seem any safer either, I would think the biggest danger is still other drivers not seeing you and taking you out.

Edit: Actually I would think it's even more dangerous as people on scooters don't seem to wear any sort of gear at all. So you'd get even more fucked if a car ran you over =p

Insurance is one of the big factors, scooter itself is also dirt cheap. Gas is supposed to be something crazy cheap like $5 per 150kms or so.

Speaking for myself, im still in HS, and a big motorcycle costing 3-4k along with 2-3k insurance is just out of what people would call reasonable.

I did look into some big bikes like an R6 or GSXR but didnt want it to kill me till later in life :fullofwin:

[TypeRNammer]

When I had a scooter before, I would usually take knight bridge to enter Richmond.

Going down knight bridge getting up to speeds of 85kmh :fullofwin:

But there's that small hill to climb ::rukidding:

Then it's a minor slope down to the Bridgeport exit :fuckyea:

[asian_XL]

Insurance is one of the big factors, scooter itself is also dirt cheap. Gas is supposed to be something crazy cheap like $5 per 150kms or so.

Speaking for myself, im still in HS, and a big motorcycle costing 3-4k along with 2-3k insurance is just out of what people would call reasonable.

I did look into some big bikes like an R6 or GSXR but didnt want it to kill me till later in life :fullofwin:

you will regret what you just said. When you get older, you don't want to tell people that used to ride a scooter.

a 50cc scooter is just as dangerous as riding a 600cc

[d1]

Given that this is a car forum, I am assuming you drive a car. In case you didn't notice, nearly everyone goes 20kph over the limit... everywhere. So if you're scared of 80kph on the Oak St. bridge, you'll be scared everywhere. Just saying.

Yeah, and I am somewhat speaking from experience. I've been riding motorcycles for 7 years and scooters, when driven correctly in a proper manner, are fun, cheap and safe. Nothing bothers me more than driving down a street with some tool on a 50cc scooter going 20kph with the throttle half open, hugging the sidewalk. Either drive IN traffic the way you're supposed to or GTFO the road.

Actually, most people in the city drive in the low 60's which isn't too far off from a scooter's top speed and also, considering the speed limit is supposed to be 50km/h in the city, people shouldn't have too much of a reason to be pissed at a scooter doing 58km/h.

If you feel safe topping out a scooter while cars are passing you going 20+km/h faster while road raging and wanting to cut you off for slowing up traffic, then good for you. Some people prefer to be cautious.

When I had a scooter before, I would usually take knight bridge to enter Richmond.

Going down knight bridge getting up to speeds of 85kmh :fullofwin:

But there's that small hill to climb ::rukidding:

Then it's a minor slope down to the Bridgeport exit :fuckyea:

What scooter is this and what speeds were you getting up the hill?

[TypeRNammer]

Derbi Bullet, one of the faster 2 strokes.

I forgot what speed the scooter was going at climbing the knight bridge, I think it was around the 60-65km range.

It can go 80kmh flat out.