[pastarocket]

I need your help for a friend if you are a witness to an accident this morning.
My friend's Lancer Ralliart is a total loss. Fortunately, he is alright. He doesn't have any injuries, just a bit shaken up.

The accident happened on Granville and 12th this morning at 6:20am. He was heading west in 12th. The guy in a black SUV ran the red light, my friend tried to avoid him and the SUV hit the back drivers side and spun his car into a traffic light pole. The car is done.

A terrible hit and run by the SUV driver. No plate number of the SUV could be obtained from witnesses. No dash camera either.

He put a great deal of work in modifying his Ralliart. He paid 43K for it.
If you were a witness to the accident, please send me a PM.

That driver of the SUV needs to face justice for being a dangerous driver!

Here are pictures of my friend's car before the accident:

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r523/raymcheung/citrus2-1.jpg

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r523/raymcheung/citrus.jpg

[Verdasco]

so your friend was turning left and he ran a red heading west going straight? been in one of these accidents where the other person ran a red going straight and and i won the case WITH a witness. Hope he gets one by posting up signs or something... i am sure i wouldnt of won if a witness didn't come up. Good luck to your friend man

edit: lol hit and run on a totalled car? what kind of people are these guys...

[pastarocket]

so your friend was turning left and he ran a red heading west going straight? been in one of these accidents where the other person ran a red going straight and and i won the case WITH a witness. Hope he gets one by posting up signs or something... i am sure i wouldnt of won if a witness didn't come up. Good luck to your friend man

edit: lol hit and run on a totalled car? what kind of people are these guys...


No, no, you have the scenario wrong dude. Like I said, my friend was driving westbound on 12th avenue on a green light. He was not turning. The driver in the black SUV was driving on Granville street and ran a RED light on Granville. A hit and run by the driver of the SUV.

[SumAznGuy]

Were there witnesses that saw the black SUV take off?

If there are witnesses that saw the other vehicle run a solid red and there is body damage on the other car, then your friend is in good shape with ICBC.

[pastarocket]

Yes, there were witnesses to the black SUV running the red light on Granville and taking off. No ID on the SUV's plate though.

[SumAznGuy]

Yes, there were witnesses to the black SUV running the red light on Granville and taking off. No ID on the SUV's plate though.

He won't need it.

In this case, there is witnesses that saw the other vehicle.
Your friend's car hit the other vehicle.

Worse case scenario, he will pay a small deductable and sign an affidavid that the other vehicle took off.

Did the police show up to take statements for the hit and run?

[pastarocket]

He won't need it.

In this case, there is witnesses that saw the other vehicle.
Your friend's car hit the other vehicle.

Worse case scenario, he will pay a small deductable and sign an affidavid that the other vehicle took off.

Did the police show up to take statements for the hit and run?

I am not sure whether police took statements about the hit and run.

Hopefully, my friend can get a new car soon. I strongly encouraged him to buy a dash camera AND a rear view camera. -can't be too careful these days. :(

[Verdasco]

everyone should invest in one of those dash cameras..... hence a large thread in revscene talking about it. Just that money is problem for some people :(

[pastarocket]

Some good news from my friend this afternoon. When he bought his Lancer Ralliart in '09, he bought car insurance with this type of coverage:

He got an extra option for new cars, where he will get a brand new car for approximately the same value as when he bought it in 2009. It had a 3 year limit. He was 3 days off from 3 years. He bought his Lancer for 43K.

He should be fine. ICBC should not lowball him in terms of compensation.

As for the aftermarket parts, he said that he should be able to salvage. ICBC told him over the phone that once the damage assessment is completed, he would be able to get his car's aftermarket parts back. One of the parts is a Greddy exhaust.

What car is he going to buy? A 2012 Lancer Ralliart.

[Ikkaku]

I'm sure Mr. W. knows the law very well ;)

[Everymans]

I'll keep an eye out for black suv's with front end damage. Hopefully some day ICBC will give you a discount for driving with a dashcam.

[belaud]

Some good news from my friend this afternoon. When he bought his Lancer Ralliart in '09, he bought car insurance with this type of coverage:

He got an extra option for new cars, where he will get a brand new car for approximately the same value as when he bought it in 2009. It had a 3 year limit. He was 3 days off from 3 years. He bought his Lancer for 43K.

He should be fine. ICBC should not lowball him in terms of compensation.

As for the aftermarket parts, he said that he should be able to salvage. ICBC told him over the phone that once the damage assessment is completed, he would be able to get his car's aftermarket parts back. One of the parts is a Greddy exhaust.

What car is he going to buy? A 2012 Lancer Ralliart.

Really? for 43k, he would rather buy a ralliart then a used Evo X? Or even a sport tech STI!

[GLOW]

Really? for 43k, he would rather buy a ralliart then a used Evo X?

if that new car insurance was within 3 years (which i believe i read correctly it was), i'd say his decision payed off quite well to buy a new instead of used car....

if i was him my expression would be :tears::awwyeah:

not sure if a dash cam would have caught much (i.e. the SUV) other than the ralliart having a green light.

that being said even the cheap ebay one costs $35 shipped + cost of an SD card. for under $50 why the hell not eh?

[Shorn]

nobody knows what suv? at all? not even make?

[pastarocket]

nobody knows what suv? at all? not even make?

The driver of the black SUV was going very fast when running the red light and driving away from the accident. Therefore it was probably a bit difficult to confirm the exact make of the SUV.

Anyways, it's a moot point now since my friend's insurance coverage allows him to buy a new car. Insurance coverage had a three year limit from when he bought the Ralliart in '09.

[ShadowBun]

^ nice

[seakrait]

Anyways, it's a moot point now since my friend's insurance coverage allows him to buy a new car. Insurance coverage had a three year limit from when he bought the Ralliart in '09.

How much extra did that cost him per year though? And that's through ICBC?

[hc529]

I believe its call "Limited Depreciation"

That's what i bought when i had my 2008 honda civic EXL, and I got into an Accident 100% my fault, and write off the civic. And ICBC sent me a Cheque close to the RETAIL for the Civic Minus the Deduction (300$) and paperwork fee.. which was around $600 in total.

It works for 3 years, first three year, it covers everything... but after the third year, only cover "Water damage, (flood), or fire.

[belaud]

How much extra did that cost him per year though? And that's through ICBC?

For my car, its an extra $1200 for the first year, and thats that.

[b0unce. [?]]

the dmg to his car was pretty brutal

[TouringTeg]

Note that there is a downside to this coverage. Two of my friends have had their cars hit and instead of getting a new car, major damage was repaired because it was much cheaper to repair the car then provide a new one.

Example 1 was a 2006 Honda S2000. Front end damage total was $25k. Example 2 was a 2009 Audi A4 hit on the rear drivers door and quarter panel damage total was $18k~. In both cases the cars were repaired.

So then you are stuck with a car with a HUGE accident on it and major depreciation. You have to go after ICBC for accelerated depreciation. They hate paying this out as they don't want to set a precedent.

[Expresso]

Note that there is a downside to this coverage. Two of my friends have had their cars hit and instead of getting a new car, major damage was repaired because it was much cheaper to repair the car then provide a new one.

Example 1 was a 2006 Honda S2000. Front end damage total was $25k. Example 2 was a 2009 Audi A4 hit on the rear drivers door and quarter panel damage total was $18k~. In both cases the cars were repaired.

So then you are stuck with a car with a HUGE accident on it and major depreciation. You have to go after ICBC for accelerated depreciation. They hate paying this out as they don't want to set a precedent.

There's replacement cost too, which I think is what this guy is getting. Not limited depreciation.

I've always wondered this as well. Do they base the assessment on a market value of your vehicle to determine the write off or do they base it on a brand new vehicle. Cause if they don't base it off market value what a rip off.

[FerrariEnzo]

tell your friend to go to the doctor..

most injuries dont show up until 3+ days later...

If the car was a total loss, i honestly believe that he would sustain some type of injury...

[SumAznGuy]

Note that there is a downside to this coverage. Two of my friends have had their cars hit and instead of getting a new car, major damage was repaired because it was much cheaper to repair the car then provide a new one.

Example 1 was a 2006 Honda S2000. Front end damage total was $25k. Example 2 was a 2009 Audi A4 hit on the rear drivers door and quarter panel damage total was $18k~. In both cases the cars were repaired.

So then you are stuck with a car with a HUGE accident on it and major depreciation. You have to go after ICBC for accelerated depreciation. They hate paying this out as they don't want to set a precedent.

:suspicious:


There's replacement cost too, which I think is what this guy is getting. Not limited depreciation.

I've always wondered this as well. Do they base the assessment on a market value of your vehicle to determine the write off or do they base it on a brand new vehicle. Cause if they don't base it off market value what a rip off.

ICBC | Optional new vehicle coverage (http://www.icbc.com/autoplan/optional/optional-new)

Three types of optional coverage are available for your new vehicle: New Vehicle Replacement Plus, Replacement Cost, and Limited Depreciation.

It is based off market value.

[winson604]

How much extra did that cost him per year though? And that's through ICBC?

Another thing to note too and this shouldn't be a surpirse is that coverage get's a little more expensive every year for the 3 years. So first year will be cheapest, 2nd year you pay a little more and 3rd year you pay yet a little more as well.

[dark0821]

For our 2012 rogue the new car replacement plus was 1400 extra on top...

We went against it... Since we were cheap asses. But what the coverage does is that.. Let's say my 2012 rogue got totaled in 2014, if ICBC can't find a brand new 2012 rogue with the exact spec as ours, they will be forced to give us a 2014 rogue with similar equipment...

At least that's how I understood it...

[pastarocket]

tell your friend to go to the doctor..

most injuries dont show up until 3+ days later...

If the car was a total loss, i honestly believe that he would sustain some type of injury...

Thanks for the advice. Yeah, he is seeing a doctor. I hope he gets X-rays too. He's feeling the whiplash, and some aches and pains.

[pastarocket]

Accidents like these continue to remind me to ALWAYS look both ways at an intersection even after the traffic light has changed to green. -

I'm putting up some pictures of my friend's car after the accident to show how the actions of some messed up drivers can be so life threatening. A good reminder for me. That crazy driver of the SUV is gonna get what's coming to him/her!!

The SUV runs a red light and clips my friend's car. Then the car hits a traffic light pole resulting in most of the damage that you see in the pictures below.

Please be careful out there.

One of the good things about the Revscene community is its promotion of safe driving to all its members all the time, especially at official/unofficial meets.

Big props to RS! :thumbs:

-just a warning that the pictures are quite graphic: :eek3:

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r523/raymcheung/lancer2.jpg
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r523/raymcheung/lancer1-1.jpg
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r523/raymcheung/lancer3-1.jpg

[belaud]

Holy mother of all that is holy, I'm glad your friend came out of that unscathed, yay for modern crumple zones!

[dlo]

Holy fuck lol how did the other guy manage to flee wow

[bcrdukes]

Wow. That will definitely not buff out!

[FerrariEnzo]

this is why i dont dump money into cars..

firstly, if you sell, you will never get half the money you put into it back.
secondly, there are lots of bad drivers that dont care about road situations.... seeing your baby car in an accident is heart-break moment

[Expresso]

this is why i dont dump money into cars..

firstly, if you sell, you will never get half the money you put into it back.
secondly, there are lots of bad drivers that dont care about road situations.... seeing your baby car in an accident is heart-break moment

I feel the same way if I did or didnt dump money into the car.

[Jermyzy]

Holy shit @ the damage

[GLOW]

wow those pics are :ohgodwhy:.
seriously hope karma falcon punches that SUV driver

[SumAznGuy]

Wait a sec, did he hit the SUV or did the SUV hit him?

[pastarocket]

Wait a sec, did he hit the SUV or did the SUV hit him?

The SUV ran a red light and hit my friend's Lancer. The high speed of the SUV caused the Lancer to hit a nearby traffic lightpole, thus causing most of the damage that you see in the pictures.

The driver of the SUV took off from the accident. A gruesome hit and run. It's definitely the SUV driver that's wrong.

[SumAznGuy]

Is there any damage on your friend's car from the other car?

[pastarocket]

Is there any damage on your friend's car from the other car?

-don't know the specific details of the damage. I'm just getting picture updates from my friend.

[llno24]

Hi everyone... Thanks to pastarocket for posting this in Revscene... I finally got around to signing up for a RS account...

I am the one with the wrecked Ralliart... Police are still trying to narrow down SUV's with similar damage...

and so far... I've been off work for a month and have been on gradual return to work for the last month and a half. Physio and massage therapy is a b!tch... approximately twice a week for each...

The good news is I have a new car... and it's a 2012 Evo X Phantom Black Pearl.

Hope everyone drives safely... especially early in the morning or late at night...