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Death2Theft
05-17-2012, 02:43 PM
Brietbart was going to drop a bomb shell on Obama back in March 1st, Strangely enough he dies the night before.
Now we know why Brietbart was killed and within the hour they already had the cause of his death even before the coroner determined it. Yet shortly the Coroner himself is dead after examining Brietbart.
The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: 'Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii' (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/The-Vetting-Barack-Obama-Literary-Agent-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii)
Jsunu
05-17-2012, 02:49 PM
Get your tinfoil hats out!
But seriously, i read through the link and all it has is a small biographical blurb of him being born in Kenya. It is a mistake on their part and the president has released his birth certificate disproving all the Kenya rumors.
bloodmack
05-17-2012, 02:53 PM
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/123/658/AWARD.png
parm104
05-17-2012, 02:54 PM
Santa Clause was going to reveal the leapurchaun's pot of gold location on March 29th, 2008 but before he could he was killed by the easter bunny. Now we know that the easter bunny is from Saudi Arabia and has control over all the oil fields and gold bullion so it must be that the easter bunny is the long lost son of Saddam Hussein...There is no denying this.
Razor Ramon HG
05-17-2012, 03:03 PM
Who gives a shit if he's Kenyan or American-born. He's still Obama.
E-40six
05-17-2012, 03:09 PM
thread is now Obama rap parodies
Baracka Flacka Flames - Head of The State - YouTube
also here is his birth video death2theft
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bqEn8AXzJ4
TjAlmeida
05-17-2012, 03:10 PM
http://www.revscene.net/forums/653341-official-no-need-start-new-thread-thread-62.html
Berzerker
05-17-2012, 03:27 PM
Who gives a shit if he's Kenyan or American-born. He's still Obama.
You have to be an American Citizen born in America to be president so it's a pretty big deal actually.
Berz out.
bballguy
05-17-2012, 03:31 PM
The Official No Need To Give A Fuck About This Thread, Thread
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...59/672/e32.jpg)
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/259/672/e32.jpg
drunkrussian
05-17-2012, 03:36 PM
You have to be an American Citizen born in America to be president so it's a pretty big deal actually.
Berz out.
yeah this is the reason it matters from the standpoint of the law. However from a standpoint of logic it doesnt matter. So with that said, i really wished he was born in kenya so that it could spark a debate and they could get rid of that stupid rule already. If immigrants who are citizens were allowed to rule the u.s maybe they'd bring some common sense to the table, finally.
Berzerker
05-17-2012, 03:46 PM
It won't change the rule it will mean Obama gets impeached and no longer allowed to remain president. Not that it matters as the man who has title isn't the one running the country anyways. He's just "The Guy" that got put in that spot by the corporations running the show in the back ground. If anyone thinks the US president is actually running the country they need to start doing some research.
Berz out.
Manic!
05-17-2012, 03:49 PM
You have to be an American Citizen born in America to be president so it's a pretty big deal actually.
Berz out.
It's too late now anyways. Also if it were true were is the real evidence. The republicans have spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the last campaign and hundreds of millions more on the next. With all that money flying around if he was born in Kenya it would have come out.
1exotic
05-17-2012, 03:50 PM
Obama is a terrorist
Berzerker
05-17-2012, 03:53 PM
It's too late now anyways. Also if it were true were is the real evidence. The republicans have spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the last campaign and hundreds of millions more on the next. With all that money flying around if he was born in Kenya it would have come out.
I agree, at this point I don't believe it, but I don't disbelieve it either.
In the end I don't care either way I just think it would be fun if he was born outside of America to see the backlash and outcry that it would have on the American Government.
Berz out.
Razor Ramon HG
05-17-2012, 04:18 PM
You have to be an American Citizen born in America to be president so it's a pretty big deal actually.
Berz out.
Yeah, that's one way of looking at it.
But my point is what drunkrussian said. In my opinion, people that care about this topic is an Obama hater regardless.
Stop posting stupid fucking conspiracy theory bullshit.
jasonturbo
05-17-2012, 04:49 PM
Dear OP,
Not only are you a moron, but you're 4 years dumber than the other morons.
tgill
05-17-2012, 04:53 PM
He's still Obama.
So hes still a douchebag like every other American president post JFK?
I agree.
(When will people give up with this Obama is from Kenya bullshit?, this asshole isn't worth anyones time.)
truth
05-17-2012, 05:09 PM
http://www.zoneshot.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/no-fags-today.jpg
StylinRed
05-17-2012, 06:08 PM
breitbart was indeed expected to bring something "damming" as he calls it out against Obama on the day he died and his coroner is indeed dead (supposedly poisoned)
but this magazine article doesn't seem like something Breitbart would use based on his past work... he is certainly not a hack journalist
this seems like some birther website is using breitbart and his coroners suspicious death to their avail
twitchyzero
05-17-2012, 06:20 PM
OP only creates tin-foil hat worthy threads
Death2Theft
05-17-2012, 06:42 PM
Yes I'm certain you'd have absolutely no problem with someone from China running Canada, then running oil pipelines thru your backyard. No such thing as foreign intrest.
yeah this is the reason it matters from the standpoint of the law. However from a standpoint of logic it doesnt matter. So with that said, i really wished he was born in kenya so that it could spark a debate and they could get rid of that stupid rule already. If immigrants who are citizens were allowed to rule the u.s maybe they'd bring some common sense to the table, finally.
Death2Theft
05-17-2012, 06:44 PM
Do you honestly think the powers that be would be willing to put someone in power if they didn't have some dirt on him? How else do you explain all the previous presidents after jfk being douchebags?
It's too late now anyways. Also if it were true were is the real evidence. The republicans have spend hundreds of millions of dollars on the last campaign and hundreds of millions more on the next. With all that money flying around if he was born in Kenya it would have come out.
Manic!
05-17-2012, 07:34 PM
Do you honestly think the powers that be would be willing to put someone in power if they didn't have some dirt on him? How else do you explain all the previous presidents after jfk being douchebags?
And JFK was an angel?
StylinRed
05-17-2012, 07:41 PM
Do you honestly think the powers that be would be willing to put someone in power if they didn't have some dirt on him? How else do you explain all the previous presidents after jfk being douchebags?
jimmy carter wasn't/isn't a douchebag... hell neither was clinton really aside from getting his mack on
an jfk was a douche
http://www.boingboing.net/images/_2009_03_ronald-reagan1.jpg
move on op, election is coming in half a year.
SkinnyPupp
05-17-2012, 07:59 PM
Brietbart was going to drop a bomb shell on Obama back in March 1st, Strangely enough he dies the night before.
Now we know why Brietbart was killed and within the hour they already had the cause of his death even before the coroner determined it. Yet shortly the Coroner himself is dead after examining Brietbart.
The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: 'Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii' (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/The-Vetting-Barack-Obama-Literary-Agent-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii)
http://i.imgur.com/SQ3yA.gif
Death2Theft
05-17-2012, 10:26 PM
Yeah the guy that dismantled glass steagal and allowed this current mess to happen wasn't a douchebag.
jimmy carter wasn't/isn't a douchebag... hell neither was clinton really aside from getting his mack on
an jfk was a douche
7seven
05-18-2012, 06:34 AM
I detest Obama, but this is idiotic.
Is it me or is every single post by the OP just moronic tin foil hat worthy crazy content, I swear he must live in some basement or cave with tin foil head gear or something. mmmm where is the ignore button on here.
You have to be an American Citizen born in America to be president so it's a pretty big deal actually.
Berz out.
The actual phrases in the US constitution reads
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
The phrase "natural born Citizen" suggests that any person that was born as an American citizen is eligible for US presidency. Nevertheless, how to define a person born as American citizen is debatable.
The media tend to focus on the obvious, any person born in the US (except those not under US jurisdiction) are American (jus soli), hence the idea that only person born in US soil are elegible. But any child born to American father or mother is also an American by birth (jus sanguinis).
So, even if Obama was born in Kenya, doesn't change much. It just brings up some debate that only the Supreme court has the right to decide.
jasonturbo
05-18-2012, 07:18 AM
I have to say I'm a little confused as to why there is so much hatred for Obama. What's Obama done that is so terrible? Keep in mind he is limited by the senate and congress and bipartisan politics has really hindered his ability to make the changes he wants to make. (Whether or not they are the right changes can't be determined until after they are implemented for a sufficient period of time) So for every one of Obama's "failures" you can also point the finger at the Republicans.
I certainly hope that nobody is suggesting that McCain/Palin would have been a better choice lol.
You have to be an American Citizen born in America to be president so it's a pretty big deal actually.
Berz out.
The actual phrases in the US constitution reads
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
The phrase "natural born Citizen" suggests that any person that was born as an American citizen is eligible for US presidency. Nevertheless, how to define a person born as American citizen is debatable.
The media tend to focus on the obvious, any person born in the US (except those not under US jurisdiction) are American (jus soli), hence the idea that only person born in US soil are elegible. But any child born to American father or mother is also an American by birth (jus sanguinis).
So, even if Obama was born in Kenya, it doesn't change much. It just brings up some debate that only the Supreme court has the right to decide.
Phozy
05-18-2012, 08:30 AM
@ jason: ron paul all the way.
Psykopathik
05-18-2012, 08:58 AM
how is it the OP continually posts articles and offers no reason or insight as to why he is posting it?
Obama born in Kenya. well too late. he's already been the president.
failstorm ahead.
Death2Theft
05-18-2012, 09:07 AM
Michelle says Barack's Home country is Kenya - full statement - YouTube
- In 2008, Obama’s paternal step grandmother appeared to indicate publicly that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. In an interview conducted by American Christian minister Ron McRae, Sarah Obama was asked, ‘Were you present when your grandson was born in Kenya?’” McRae testified in his sworn statement. “This was asked to her in translation twice, and both times she replied, “Yes! Yes she was! She was present when Obama was born.
- Despite claiming the passage about Obama’s birthplace being Kenya was a mistake, the listing still maintained that Obama’s birthplace was Kenya until after Obama became a U.S. Senator. “Goderich’s statement fails to explain why the “fact checking error” persisted for sixteen years, through at least three different versions of Jane Dystel’s website, and through at least four different versions of Obama’s biography,” reports Breitbart.com.
- The literary agency also updated the text in June 1998, but the part about Obama being born in Kenya was retained.
- The text was again updated in February 2005 to reflect the fact that Obama had become a Senator, but Kenya was still listed as his birthplace.
- After an April 2007 modification of the text, the passage still read Obama, “was born in Kenya.”
- As Steve Boman reveals, the Dystel & Goderich agency asks its clients to submit their own biography, meaning it’s virtually impossible the listing of Obama’s birthplace as Kenya could have been a “fact checking error” on behalf of the literary company itself.
Soundy
05-18-2012, 09:09 AM
how is it the OP continually posts articles and offers no reason or insight as to why he is posting it?
http://legacy-cdn.smosh.com/smosh-pit/112010/main-troll.jpg
too_slow
05-18-2012, 09:11 AM
Is Death2Theft = TheOne / GunMetalTeg ???????
I think niu99 and Death2Theft should be perma-banned from this forum.. Seriously, whatever you guys are smoking, please share it..
Soundy
05-18-2012, 09:12 AM
You have to be an American Citizen born in America to be president so it's a pretty big deal actually.
Berz out.
Demolition Man (1993) Predicts Arnold Schwarzenegger President - YouTube
Jsunu
05-18-2012, 09:15 AM
- In 2008, Obama’s paternal step grandmother appeared to indicate publicly that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. In an interview conducted by American Christian minister Ron McRae, Sarah Obama was asked, ‘Were you present when your grandson was born in Kenya?’” McRae testified in his sworn statement. “This was asked to her in translation twice, and both times she replied, “Yes! Yes she was! She was present when Obama was born.
- Despite claiming the passage about Obama’s birthplace being Kenya was a mistake, the listing still maintained that Obama’s birthplace was Kenya until after Obama became a U.S. Senator. “Goderich’s statement fails to explain why the “fact checking error” persisted for sixteen years, through at least three different versions of Jane Dystel’s website, and through at least four different versions of Obama’s biography,” reports Breitbart.com.
- The literary agency also updated the text in June 1998, but the part about Obama being born in Kenya was retained.
- The text was again updated in February 2005 to reflect the fact that Obama had become a Senator, but Kenya was still listed as his birthplace.
- After an April 2007 modification of the text, the passage still read Obama, “was born in Kenya.”
- As Steve Boman reveals, the Dystel & Goderich agency asks its clients to submit their own biography, meaning it’s virtually impossible the listing of Obama’s birthplace as Kenya could have been a “fact checking error” on behalf of the literary company itself.
Seriously dude all you have is book biography texts and misinformation from other sources.
Hell if we can find out when Clinton had an affair I am sure the public can and will dig up information his birth place years ago.. Oh wait they tried and the Republicians REALLY tried to call into question Obama's birthplace. But it has already been debunked and Obama even had to produce his legal birth certificate as proof. If any of this was called into question there would be impeachment hearings to this day.
It's like those moon landing hoax believers that have a single-minded view despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
Excelsis
05-18-2012, 09:20 AM
if obama is re-elected shit's going down later this year..... :troll:
srs
I say two major hurdles to avoid War are the London Olympics and Iran
Manic!
05-18-2012, 01:31 PM
Michelle says Barack's Home country is Kenya - full statement - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBJihJBePcs&feature=player_embedded)
- In 2008, Obama’s paternal step grandmother appeared to indicate publicly that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. In an interview conducted by American Christian minister Ron McRae, Sarah Obama was asked, ‘Were you present when your grandson was born in Kenya?’” McRae testified in his sworn statement. “This was asked to her in translation twice, and both times she replied, “Yes! Yes she was! She was present when Obama was born.
- Despite claiming the passage about Obama’s birthplace being Kenya was a mistake, the listing still maintained that Obama’s birthplace was Kenya until after Obama became a U.S. Senator. “Goderich’s statement fails to explain why the “fact checking error” persisted for sixteen years, through at least three different versions of Jane Dystel’s website, and through at least four different versions of Obama’s biography,” reports Breitbart.com.
- The literary agency also updated the text in June 1998, but the part about Obama being born in Kenya was retained.
- The text was again updated in February 2005 to reflect the fact that Obama had become a Senator, but Kenya was still listed as his birthplace.
- After an April 2007 modification of the text, the passage still read Obama, “was born in Kenya.”
- As Steve Boman reveals, the Dystel & Goderich agency asks its clients to submit their own biography, meaning it’s virtually impossible the listing of Obama’s birthplace as Kenya could have been a “fact checking error” on behalf of the literary company itself.
Post some random text but don't post the actual interview? Have you heard the interview? Maybe you should before you speak.
Obama Not Born In Kenya - McRae / Berg Full Clip of Grandmother - YouTube
And John McCain was born in Panama fact.
FactCheck.org : John McCain’s Presidential Eligibility (http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/john-mccains-presidential-eligibility/)
StylinRed
05-18-2012, 02:28 PM
Yeah the guy that dismantled glass steagal and allowed this current mess to happen wasn't a douchebag.
ye glassed over carter
as for glass-steagall, congress repealed that and it was seen to have caused more problems than good at the time
A$AProcky
05-18-2012, 05:33 PM
I have to say I'm a little confused as to why there is so much hatred for Obama. What's Obama done that is so terrible? Keep in mind he is limited by the senate and congress and bipartisan politics has really hindered his ability to make the changes he wants to make. (Whether or not they are the right changes can't be determined until after they are implemented for a sufficient period of time) So for every one of Obama's "failures" you can also point the finger at the Republicans.
I certainly hope that nobody is suggesting that McCain/Palin would have been a better choice lol.
passing NDAA when he promised he would veto it, extending patriot act, raiding medical marijuana practices when he said he wouldnt, letting bankers (his buddies) give themselves hundreds of millions of dollars in bonuses out of bailout funds, preemptive wars, giving "loans" to his friends (soylndra).
so basically because he is just another corporate puppet.
Death2Theft
05-18-2012, 05:57 PM
Just look at the record gunsales and the fact that most manufacturers arn't even accepting new orders cuz they can't keep up.
if obama is re-elected shit's going down later this year..... :troll:
srs
El Bastardo
05-18-2012, 06:08 PM
I have to say I'm a little confused as to why there is so much hatred for Obama. What's Obama done that is so terrible?
Death2Theft hates black people, thats why this thread exists
dangonay
05-18-2012, 07:32 PM
I have to say I'm a little confused as to why there is so much hatred for Obama.
Because Obama is black, plain and simple. There are still a lot of racists in the US who are furious a black president was elected. It's unfortunate, but very true.
StylinRed
05-18-2012, 08:19 PM
not only that but all presidents have their haters got to realize us presidents only garner around 50% of the voters and that support drops throughout the presidency
hell people hated Bush more than they do Obama; certainly race may play an issue but its also used as an excuse
Excelsis
05-19-2012, 01:48 PM
lol op may be right
Obama Said He Was Born in Kenya Up Until 2007! - YouTube
A$AProcky
05-19-2012, 02:11 PM
lol op may be right
Obama Said He Was Born in Kenya Up Until 2007! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M0UhjB8628)
Barack Obama isn't even his real name its Barry Satero LOL if this is true
Death2Theft
05-19-2012, 04:09 PM
The fact that he wasn't born in the US isn't the real issue for me. It's the fact that Clinton/elites has dirt on him, and has had dirt on everyone else thats been in power since them. They are running the show from behind the scenes. If you think the president being blackmailed isn't a big deal then you may as well vote for puff the magic dragon.
El Bastardo
05-19-2012, 04:58 PM
But most of the users on this forum are Canadian and subsequently powerless in the American electoral process.
Death2Theft
05-19-2012, 05:41 PM
That again is not the issue when the system is so clearly broken.
Manic!
05-19-2012, 06:41 PM
The fact that he wasn't born in the US isn't the real issue for me. It's the fact that Clinton/elites has dirt on him, and has had dirt on everyone else thats been in power since them. They are running the show from behind the scenes. If you think the president being blackmailed isn't a big deal then you may as well vote for puff the magic dragon.
If Clinton new about it why did she loose the primary's?
Keep believing everything but the facts.
Excelsis
05-19-2012, 06:46 PM
But most of the users on this forum are Canadian and subsequently powerless in the American electoral process.
if more people are aware of bullshit coming from the government i'm pretty sure it starts spreading, and with a tool as the internet, you can basically influence anyone else who sees what you're writing or taping.. eg. youtube
It doesn't matter who's the "president", matters whoever is telling them what to do
Death2Theft
05-19-2012, 10:53 PM
Uh you do realize why they want to keep Obama in power, the longer the better so they can pull their "kony" bs. As long as they have a brownface in power they have alot more freedom to go into brown countries. This is simply the fact of them playing people, that are too ignorant to see beyond skin color.
You see them trying to play world police with any nation that doesn't have vast nautural resources? Thought not.
If Clinton new about it why did she loose the primary's?
Keep believing everything but the facts.
StylinRed
05-19-2012, 11:15 PM
yeah... keep the brownface (wut) in power so that they can keep attacking more tan countries.... (wut) that didnt stop them when they had creamfaces in power (bush,clinton,bush)......
kony... the us special forces have already been in uganda hunting him for awhile now... they didnt need the video to garner support
Manic!
05-20-2012, 12:51 AM
Come on Death2Theft we know you are working for Iran. It's the truth don't hide it.
StylinRed
05-20-2012, 01:17 AM
whyd ye fail me wtf :P
parm104
05-20-2012, 01:37 AM
The fact that he wasn't born in the US isn't the real issue for me. It's the fact that Clinton/elites has dirt on him, and has had dirt on everyone else thats been in power since them. They are running the show from behind the scenes. If you think the president being blackmailed isn't a big deal then you may as well vote for puff the magic dragon.
You know how I know that you don't know anything about politics? Because you think Puff the Magic Dragon is running for election...
Honestly, all your posts in this thread have been some jibberish, propaganda nonsense. It's people like you that regurgitate this bullshit information that makes this world so ignorant yet naive at the same time.
Your illuminati bs won't get you very far in life...You seem like the kind of person who can't think for himself and logic and reasoning are too foreign concepts to you. "THE FACT that he wasn't born in the US...." - Death2Theft....so now it's a fact eh? Because someone has supposedly made a claim, it becomes a FACT? I don't really know how to end this post but I think you should take the tin-foil hat off your head, go to a library, read some books, educate yourself on politics, globalization and the economy and you might have a clearer picture of Obama and his place in the American political system.
jasonturbo
05-20-2012, 05:05 AM
Campaign finance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_finance)
Campaign financing is THE fundamental flaw with US democracy (Especially when the financing comes from big business), how are you supposed to believe that any president won't press a personal agenda based around repaying the people that got him/her elected in the first place?
But having said that, Obama is no more guilty of this than any other president in history IMO.
http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0808/alex-jones-demotivational-poster-1219791481.jpg
Death2Theft
05-20-2012, 08:23 AM
Good job, you sure showed me. Open your eyes and think for a split second. Dont get all butthurt because your brown. Look beyond skin color.
Heres something you wont learn at the "library", nor at your political science degree.
[Obama also has ties to Bain Capital. Jonathan Lavine, a managing director at Bain, has raised between $100,000 and $200,000 for Obama’s re-election effort, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.]
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-14/obama-hits-romney-on-bain-record-as-he-raises-wall-street-money.html
Enjoy the fake show they put on "battling" with Bain capital, a company that Romney has ownership in and believe what you want. You may as well vote for puff the magic dragon with your vast amount of political knowledge.
Please school me on some of this impressive education that you have on Obama and the political system. I'd love to hear it.
You know how I know that you don't know anything about politics? Because you think Puff the Magic Dragon is running for election...
Honestly, all your posts in this thread have been some jibberish, propaganda nonsense. It's people like you that regurgitate this bullshit information that makes this world so ignorant yet naive at the same time.
Your illuminati bs won't get you very far in life...You seem like the kind of person who can't think for himself and logic and reasoning are too foreign concepts to you. "THE FACT that he wasn't born in the US...." - Death2Theft....so now it's a fact eh? Because someone has supposedly made a claim, it becomes a FACT? I don't really know how to end this post but I think you should take the tin-foil hat off your head, go to a library, read some books, educate yourself on politics, globalization and the economy and you might have a clearer picture of Obama and his place in the American political system.
jasonturbo
05-20-2012, 09:12 AM
Dont get all butthurt because your brown.
Enjoy the fake show they put on "battling" with Bain capital, a company that Romney has ownership in and believe what you want. You may as well vote for puff the magic dragon with your vast amount of political knowledge.
First of all, the "Brown Butthurt" comment made me LOL.
Second, I'm not sure if you understand how the voting process works, but you must understand that people in the USA are essentially left with choosing between Romney or Obama... both of which have ties to Bain Capital...
So who do you vote for? Seeing as they are both of them are merely "puppets to the same master". (Based on your powers of logical deduction)
If you don't want to vote for Romney, why don't you make a thread about the shitty things he has done? While you're at it, why not make a thread about all the shitty things everyone in politics does.
I do believe that a significant percentage of people who pursue a career in politics have good intentions, though it seems that once these people are truly exposed to the bureaucratic nightmare that is modern day democracy, they eventually lose their drive and fall into the relm of being concerned only with self preservation and personal rewards.
Virtually every single political biography I have ever read seemed to mention this "bureacractic breaking in" of people when they first arrive in Washington...
I don't care for our pollitical system, I don't vote, I accept that it's not perfect and there will always be things I like/dislike about any candidate...
Excelsis
05-20-2012, 09:14 AM
OP, it's all right to look at various idea out of the norm and to question them
though when you use ad hominem for an argument, that's not the best idea
@jasonturbo, if voting changed anything they'd make it illegal :lol
it's all the same with politicians, they promise you one thing and then the opposite happens, it's basically lies which people accept in order to have an imperfect reality
Death2Theft
05-20-2012, 09:19 AM
Break the right(cyanide)/left(rat poison) paradigm it's hard to comprehend, but it's possible. What is troubling is a worthwhile contributor society such as yourself would still be trapped thinking voting = rape my wife and your only choices are vaginal or anal.
As a free people you do not have to choose poison/rape. When people learn to address and discuss real issues and solutions is when they will have true liberty again. For whatever reasons that they dont do it now it's because it's too "difficult" well nothing great ever came to be just because it was easy.
They may have gotten away with the "take the gun or the money" offer countless times in the past but people will get realize it and bring it to light.
First of all, the "Brown Butthurt" comment made me LOL.
Second, I'm not sure if you understand how the voting process works, but you must understand that people in the USA are essentially left with choosing between Romney or Obama... both of which have ties to Bain Capital...
So who do you vote for? Seeing as they are both of them are merely "puppets to the same master". (Based on your powers of logical deduction)
If you don't want to vote for Romney, why don't you make a thread about the shitty things he has done? While you're at it, why not make a thread about all the shitty things everyone in politics does.
I do believe that a significant percentage of people who pursue a career in politics have good intentions, though it seems that once these people are truly exposed to the bureaucratic nightmare that is modern day democracy, they eventually lose their drive and fall into the relm of being concerned only with self preservation and personal rewards.
Virtually every single political biography I have ever read seemed to mention this "bureacractic breaking in" of people when they first arrive in Washington...
I don't care for our pollitical system, I don't vote, I accept that it's not perfect and there will always be things I like/dislike about any candidate...
drunkrussian
05-20-2012, 12:09 PM
for so long, the republicans have used smear tactics to come at candidates about every issue that has nothing to do with politics. Obama is a communist, obama is a terrorist, obama isn't american...and then let's ban condoms, let's not acknowledge global warming, let's deny the dinosaurs, let's use more pink slime.
when one party is so clearly so bathsit insane with the things they say, at this point, i just can't even take anything you say anti-democrat seriously, because i know that no matter how bad he is, he will never be as crazy as the other side. and both sides are scumbags, but at least in democrat scandals, the democrat cheats with a woman. the republican always has 5 hookers and a boy in a public washroom on deck. I'm sorry - i just can't take this shit seriously anymore. i'll take a communist kenyan over a psycho mormoun robot from hell anyday
mikemhg
05-28-2012, 01:54 PM
^LOL
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