[tiger_handheld]

Hey guys,

My POS drill from canadian tire crapped out today. Looking to get a better one for random around the house shit.

I want a drill that will drill through wood(wall studs), sheet metal(garage shelf kind).
My old one couldn't do either of them - it was good enough for dry wall.

Would a 14.4v drill be good enough/adequate for what I want need to do?



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[G-spec]

check out Home Depots selection of the new Lithium Ion cordless drills, battery is twice as small and light but lasts more than two times the regular batteries...

I have the lithium ion set from Ryobi I think almost two years now, still rocks to this day all types of work.... pick up the whole set though, including the hammer drill, I love my hammer drill it fckin pounds through some tough shit without a hitch

[Psykopathik]

Buy Ridgid. Same company as Milwaukee. Lifetime warranty including batteries

[SumAznGuy]

Wait till Home Depot has a sale or clearance on drills.

Last time, they had a clearance on a Ridgid drill and impact gun kit that also came with one charger and 2 batteries and a carrying case.
I sold the impact gun on ebay for enough money to cover the cost of the kit so i ended up the drill, charger, 2 batteries and carrying case for free. And I get lifetime warranty on the batteries. Yay!!!!

So far, I've used the drill for dry walling, building Ikea furniture, and taking paint off rusted metal with a paint stripper attachment.

[Hondaracer]

Rigid is garbage

IMO the best impact/cordless drill combo is dewalt, spend the extra on those instead of makita etc that is inferior IMO

[tiger_handheld]

im looking on craigslist for dewalt see if i can find a deal. but seems no deals to be had.

[Hondaracer]

IMO it is also worth it to get both the impact and cordless

[SumAznGuy]

Unless you are using it for a living, I don't think I could justify paying the extra $$$ for Dewalt over Ridgid.
I rarely see Dewalt drills on clearance price at HD. They do go onsale once in a while at CT, but they are never that cheap.

I've used my drill maybe 5 times since buying it. That is a whopping once every 2-3 months.

[skyxx]

I'd get an 18.8v version over the 14.4v.

[Marco911]

Rigid is garbage

IMO the best impact/cordless drill combo is dewalt, spend the extra on those instead of makita etc that is inferior IMO

You're wrong. The best impact/cordless drill combo is by Milwaukee. They are the pioneers of Lithium. You can read the reviews in any trade mag. Milwaukee is consistently on top.

Ridgid is not garbage. You get PRO performance for a consumer DIY price, and they stand by their product with a lifetime warranty.

[snowball]

all depends on how much you want to spend, i'd recommend looking for a drill/impact driver combo at kms tools sale then getting home depot to price match it and get another 10% off

i personally have a milwaukee 18V li-on combo and the impact driver is a beauty

[MindBomber]

im looking on craigslist for dewalt see if i can find a deal. but seems no deals to be had.

There's an honest question you should ask yourself, do you really need a cordless?

Yes, it's nice not to have the cord dragging behind you, but it's also nice to never worry about charging batteries. I'm assuming you aren't doing significant construction projects and rather just simple DIY tasks every once and awhile, and if that's the case the cord won't slow you down much if at all. Corded tools are more powerful, way more affordable, and never need batteries replaced. If you're looking for value, buy corded.

If you absolutely must have cordless, go with the 18v.

You're wrong. The best impact/cordless drill combo is by Milwaukee. They are the pioneers of Lithium. You can read the reviews in any trade mag. Milwaukee is consistently on top.

Ridgid is not garbage. You get PRO performance for a consumer DIY price, and they stand by their product with a lifetime warranty.

Very accurate.

Milwaukee is the definitely the best impact/cordless drill combo, Festool aside.

Rigid tools are good, they aren't the best, but they would serve a homeowner very well.

[nsmb]

18v makita

[fliptuner]

There's an honest question you should ask yourself, do you really need a cordless?

Yes, it's nice not to have the cord dragging behind you, but it's also nice to never worry about charging batteries. I'm assuming you aren't doing significant construction projects and rather just simple DIY tasks every once and awhile, and if that's the case the cord won't slow you down much if at all. Corded tools are more powerful, way more affordable, and never need batteries replaced. If you're looking for value, buy corded.


Was going to say the same thing.

Sure cordless is convenient but unless you really need it, get a corded tool. A lot of times, they're lighter too.

[tiger_handheld]

i wanted cordless so that when I mount a tv or something, I wont need an extension cord.

its convenience.

i use my drill maybe 1-2 times a mo for random shit. I also use it outside on the rare occasion (tightening fence bolts etc..)

[fliptuner]

You just described wants not needs. How often are you going to mount a TV?

I have a corded Craftsman single speed drill from the mid 80's that I still use on a regular basis. The torque will almost break your wrist if it binds up. I use it in the garage with a wire wheel to polish wheels with leaky beads, brush off rusty parts, drill through steel etc. and all over the house and yard. I use my cordless DeWalt hammer drill for concrete and a small cordless Makita for drywall work cause it's light and has adjustable torque/speed settings. Point being, for general use, the corded one does 95% of the work I have.

[Hondaracer]

You're wrong. The best impact/cordless drill combo is by Milwaukee. They are the pioneers of Lithium. You can read the reviews in any trade mag. Milwaukee is consistently on top.

Ridgid is not garbage. You get PRO performance for a consumer DIY price, and they stand by their product with a lifetime warranty.

We have had nothing but problems with our Milwaukee impact including the batteries themselves falling apart, also the Milwaukee impact has much less torque than the dewalt equivalent

Also nothing but problems with the rigid 18V lithium batteries maintaining a charge

I have no allegiance to any brands, this is just what I have experienced working in the construction industry working with many brands and tools

[Manic!]

If you can wait keep checking redflagdeals.com tool deals pop up all the time.

[Hurricane]

IMO unless you are using it everyday for work or something, a cordless drill is a bad idea.

I figured this out a number of years ago. Nothing is more annoying then getting ready to do a weekend project, and having a drill with dead batteries. So you charge them for a few hours, get halfway through the project before the battery dies again.

The hassle of plugging in the charger and keeping track of what battery is charged, and which needs to be is more than just plugging in the drill (which you can't do with a cordless).

Corded drills are cheap, light, always powerful, and if your doing something indoors there should always be an outlet around.

[Hondaracer]

With 2 batteries there should be very few projects where you can't continue to swap/charge batteries and be out one and dead on the other

[Manic!]

I own this drill and it's a beast. Not that light but it's very powerful.

Milwaukee | Milwaukee Tradesman Drill, 7.5 Amp - 3/8 Inches | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/milwaukee-tradesman-drill-75-amp-3-8-inches/916693)

[tiger_handheld]

maybe I should look for a corded drill and 20ft extension cord.

is there a Voltage (14.4/18/24/28) I need to be able to drill through studs/ light sheet metal/ etc..?

Also remembered, I have $20 to Canadian Tire - any recommendations from there? How is Mastercraft?

[Gridlock]

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Did someone ask about tools that aren't snap-on? Yes!

I absolutely love my dewalt 18v set with the impact driver. I use the impact driver all the freaking time. Ok, yes, I do this for a living, but hot damn, its the most useful thing I ever bought.

Here's a tip...Home Depot is great to have around, but never buy molding in significant quantities or tools from them.

Summit tools is better than watching flyers from hd, rona or ctc. It's on 1st avenue a couple blocks past boundary.

Sample item...my table saw. Was $389 at HD(still is any time I see it). The EXACT same item at summit? $299, regular price.

The best part about summit is they have a huge selection of cordless dewalt tools for cheaps...no batteries...but the batteries are interchangeable. Buy whatever tools you want, use the same batteries and charger that you have. Yeah, you wear out the batteries faster...who cares! Go buy a new battery once every 5 years, or until they discontinue that style of battery and you're hooped.

[snowball]

if you have had problems with your canadian tire drill before, get one from a trusted brand instead of mastercraft

dewalt, milwaukee, makita, bosch, hitachi, if you're getting corded they'll all be resonably priced and have tons of power. An 18V cordless with run you 300ish but a corded will cost under 100 for a name brand and more power, you're paying a ton just for batteries, if you ever watch the flyers the bare tool with no battery is actually quite cheap. Technique also matters, if you havent been drilling pilot holes before using wood screws you'll never get the penetration you want

[DC5-S]

Cordless are garbage, batteries only last a year before they crap out

[fliptuner]

maybe I should look for a corded drill and 20ft extension cord.


I use one on a reel. Makes life a lot easier.

Bayco Products FL-755PDQ 15' Retractable Quad-Plug Extension Cord Reel, Yellow at PlumberSurplus.com (http://www.plumbersurplus.com/Prod/Bayco-Products-FL-755PDQ-15-Retractable-Quad-Plug-Extension-Cord-Reel-Yellow/208316/Cat/1027)

[604nguyen]

I can vouch for the Makita lithium cordless drills

In my past as an electrician, My 18v lithium makita has withstood some serious punishment, dropped on concrete from heights countless times, outdoors in the rain, basically used and abused on a daily basis.
Had it for almost 5 years, batteries are still good, and still drills through any type of shit you put in its way.

[Hurricane]

Again, unless your using the drill everyday, or in places where outlets are not accessible, cordless drills suck.

The are not good for drilling (lack of power/speed), they are usually heavier, and they become extinct in a few years if you're lucky enough not to have to replace the batteries (which are only marginally less than the drill itself).

There is a reason corded drills have virtually remained the same for the last 10-20 years, and cordless models are changing every year. That technology is getting better, but still has a ways to go.

Yes, the cordless drills look cooler, but if you're trying to look cool while putting together your IKEA bed, that's another matter.

Here is a good option for you...

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Simple, powerful, good for drilling and driving. Can't argue with the price (its refurb).

Good luck.

[Alatar]

I'm still using my Makita 14.4v driver/drill set that I got about 5 years ago. Batteries still going strong, tools still doing great.

You need to address your wants vs needs before you either
a) go overkill
b) get something unsuited to your needs
c) focus too much on the tool and not the drill accessories

I've not come across a job I haven't been able to do with my set.

You should be considering what kind of drill bits you're investing in, more than the actual tool. The best tool means nothing if the drill bits are shit.

[immorality]

I have an 18v cordless Rigid and it's been amazing. It came as a kit with two batteries, the charger and carrying case, got it on sale at Home Depot years ago. The batteries last me quite a long time and since it came with two, I'm never without a charged battery. I got this one to replace the cheap Canadian Tire one I had. The batteries on the CT one would always be dead whenever I picked it up to use it. I also have a corded Makita and from looking at it, I would guess it's late 80's - early 90's. That thing is a workhorse and it has crazy torque, but for most around the house stuff I use the Rigid. In fact I used it today to put together a little dolly for taking my race tires out to the car, so I only have to make one trip instead of four.

[alex.w *//]

makita 18v impact driver because the led light stays on for 10secs after the trigger is pressed.

dewalt and milwaukee doesnt have that function

[Marco911]

Was going to say the same thing.

Sure cordless is convenient but unless you really need it, get a corded tool. A lot of times, they're lighter too.

Technology in a corded tool hasn't changed in years. With Lithium you can get the run time and the performance you need from a cordless tool and you have the portability and convenience.
Cordless outsells corded...I don't see any reason to buy a corded drill.

[Marco911]

IMO unless you are using it everyday for work or something, a cordless drill is a bad idea.

I figured this out a number of years ago. Nothing is more annoying then getting ready to do a weekend project, and having a drill with dead batteries. So you charge them for a few hours, get halfway through the project before the battery dies again.

The hassle of plugging in the charger and keeping track of what battery is charged, and which needs to be is more than just plugging in the drill (which you can't do with a cordless).

Corded drills are cheap, light, always powerful, and if your doing something indoors there should always be an outlet around.

You obviously haven't used a high end cordless tool made in the last 10 years.

Modern cordless tool batteries have fuel gauges that tell you the level of charge. Li technology means that they maintain up to 90% of power and torque until fully discharged.

[Marco911]

We have had nothing but problems with our Milwaukee impact including the batteries themselves falling apart, also the Milwaukee impact has much less torque than the dew alt equivalent

Not true. Milwaukee's M18 impact has class leading torque. 650 in-lbs. The tool uses a brushless motor that will last longer, has less noise and is more efficient.

Milwaukee FUEL Hammer Drill | ToolGuyd (http://toolguyd.com/milwaukee-fuel-hammer-drill/)



Also nothing but problems with the rigid 18V lithium batteries maintaining a charge

I have no allegiance to any brands, this is just what I have experienced working in the construction industry working with many brands and tools

DeWalt made the benchmark Ni-Cd 18V platform in the 90's. In this decade, Milwaukee leads in Lithium tool technology.

[accordpoop]

I have used Milwaukee, makita and now I have dewalt. I use it every single day for living and I have to say out of the 3 I have never been happier as I have been with dewalt. If I use it for a living then for the occasional home use it should last forever!!!

[JSilver]

Dewalt or Makita.

Period.

[Death2Theft]

I thought ridgid owned ryobi not milwaukee.
Buy Ridgid. Same company as Milwaukee. Lifetime warranty including batteries

[tiger_handheld]

I'm still using my Makita 14.4v driver/drill set that I got about 5 years ago. Batteries still going strong, tools still doing great.

You need to address your wants vs needs before you either
a) go overkill
b) get something unsuited to your needs
c) focus too much on the tool and not the drill accessories

I've not come across a job I haven't been able to do with my set.

You should be considering what kind of drill bits you're investing in, more than the actual tool. The best tool means nothing if the drill bits are shit.


The drill bits i'll use are the cheap ones from canadian tire. My main purpose is to screw things in (ikea tables, tv mounts, lose cabinet bolts, lose fence bolts). My current drill cannot go through a piece of 2x4.

I think I need to do more research on the type of drill (hammer or impact) didn't know there were so many choices.

[Matlock]

I've been using my Makita 18v drill/hammer combo and impact driver for the past 5 years and the batteries are still great. I use the bigger heavier Makita batteries, just so you know. When I'm using my impact putting up boxes and doing some light framing in a house I'll only need to charge it maybe once every 1-2 weeks. The cordless sawzall is also very good, but does drain the battery very fast. Most people on these jobsites will use Makita, probably because it's a good brand.

My company provides us with a Ridgid cordless. The batteries are crap and need to be constantly recharged. We've used it to drill out entire huge houses alone on cases when our hardwired drills die on us. The handle actually snapped in half and is now being held together with some electrical tape. Haha, pos but it gets the job done. The batteries are warrented, but you're not supposed to tell them that you use it for work.

Milwaukee has sparked my interest in the past with their very portable 12v range of drills and heated jackets. I might pick up in the next few years. They also have a 18v set and a 28v set. Holy shit 28v! I would love that.

In my personal opinion I believe if you're just some at home handy man who doesn't even use it every day then it doesn't really matter which one you buy since these things will usually crap out on you only if you beat on them. However, if you're like me and like toys I'd go with either a Makita or Milwaukee.

If you like to match shit because you like to things to be all fancy and pretty go with milwaukee, because they do produce higher quality metal drill bits and saw blades. Plus their color is red, which some people may find more pretty than Makita's blue. :P (I use their metal drill bits all the time and get weird comments because I'm using makita tools with their drill bits)

Makita might be more popular and easier to find replacement stuff off craigslist if you ever need to.

[Gridlock]

I thought ridgid owned ryobi not milwaukee.

That was my understanding.

Ryobi is absolute crap. I bought a cheap mitre saw that doesn't stay accurate and a palm sander that doesn't stay together.

Neither gets used.

On another note, I have a great Ryobi mitre saw that I'd love to sell! Super accurate and top quality. Also selling a palm sander that is second to none.

[FerrariEnzo]

arent cordless drills weaker then corded drills..

[DsZ24]

I like my makita, use it every day at work. I'd say a close 2nd would be Dewalt. I Had the ridgid drill/driver combo for a while but wasn't a big fan of the battery life. And I haven't tried milwaukee so I can't comment on those.

If you're just going to use it for the odd task here and there then any one of the major 4 brands will work for you, but if u want something that'll last and keep preforming go for a good one.

[Matlock]

arent cordless drills weaker then corded drills..

Yeah sure, but really you usually won't need a corded drill unless you're like me drilling out huge 2"+ holes through 6+ studs piled up together.

We have an old all metal milwaukee corded drill at work which is probably as old as me that will literally tear your arm off if your bit gets stuck and you're not paying attention. I don't think most people will need that much torque.

[!SG]

makita 2 pack deal.

1 cordless drill
1 cordless impact dill

wait for it to go on sale, usually 299.99 or 279.99 price, and some packaged deal.

got mine during the kms tool sale. 279.99 + extra battery (3 batteries in total)

use the cordless drill for everyday home stuff, the impact drill when working on the car.

[Hondaracer]

Not true. Milwaukee's M18 impact has class leading torque. 650 in-lbs. The tool uses a brushless motor that will last longer, has less noise and is more efficient.

Milwaukee FUEL Hammer Drill | ToolGuyd (http://toolguyd.com/milwaukee-fuel-hammer-drill/)




DeWalt made the benchmark Ni-Cd 18V platform in the 90's. In this decade, Milwaukee leads in Lithium tool technology.

that is all nice and well on paper

but i do agree the brushless motor is a big upside as the brushes are usually what kill our tools

[parm104]

Cordless are garbage, batteries only last a year before they crap out

Yet my cordless batteries have lasted me over 3 years and still running...

Buy Ridgid. Same company as Milwaukee. Lifetime warranty including batteries

As mentioned in this thread earlier, Rigid is not the same company as Milwakee. Ridgid is a house brand of Home Depot. Not a bad brand, usually more affordable. I've bought Ridgid shop vacs and drills in the past but only because they were the more affordable options.

As far as I know, Milwaukee is amongst the best of the best in the power tools industry. Most electricians seek Milwaukee cordless tools; heavy duty, good performance and last forever. I have known people to have problems with battery performance with Milwaukee and their warranty on the battery is pro-rated. I'm pretty sure that's an industry standard for consumable items but many people started buying Rigid and Stanley because they weren't pleased with that. However, you won't need anything like that just to do odd jobs around the house.

I spent $300+ on a Black and Decker unit a few years back and although I've never had any problems with my drill yet, I feel dumb for spending that much money on a product that gets used to do small little jobs every now and then. If I were you, I'd spent about $150 tops and just pick up a DeWalt 18V unit.

[MindBomber]

As mentioned in this thread earlier, Rigid is not the same company as Milwakee. Ridgid is a house brand of Home Depot. Not a bad brand, usually more affordable. I've bought Ridgid shop vacs and drills in the past but only because they were the more affordable options.

If I may expand slightly, Home Depot and other big box DIY stores do not sell tools identical to what you will find at a store which caters to commercial clients. A Dewalt drill purchased at Home Depot will often have a different model number than what would appear to be an identical unit purchased at KMS or a supply house. Superficially the two different models will appear identical, but internally the big box store models are lower quality to reduce build cost and maximize profit. For example; a drill purchased at KMS will have metal gearing, a drill from Home Depot will have plastic. The logic is that home owners buy the majority of tools big box stores sell and use them as much in a year as a trades person in a day, so no one will notice the sacrifice in quality/reliability.

The same rule applies to many products at Home Depot. The lumber sold at Home Depot would be rejected by an independent lumber yard, because it's the lowest grade they can get away with selling.

[JL9000]

Not a lot of people know this, but Panasonic makes wicked cordless power tools. Most of them are made in Japan too for that extra bit of JDM bling.

Definitely try out the tools for size and comfort before you buy, and like many have already mentioned, consider purchasing a corded unit unless you really need the added freedom from cordless. And just like when you're shopping for cars, take advertised numbers with a grain of salt.

[noventa]

The drill bits i'll use are the cheap ones from canadian tire. My main purpose is to screw things in (ikea tables, tv mounts, lose cabinet bolts, lose fence bolts). My current drill cannot go through a piece of 2x4.

I think I need to do more research on the type of drill (hammer or impact) didn't know there were so many choices.


honestly, whatever brand name drill you buy today will be more than sufficient to do what you described. For your type of jobs, I wouldn't even consider a corded drill. People say more power for corded drill. You know what? They are absolutely correct. In fact, they generate so much torque that it can break your arm if you hold it incorrectly. For around the house and yard work, a cordless drill is your best friend.

I don't think you realize how much technology for cordless drills have improved in the last 10 years. Even if you used a Ryobi, which in my opinion is a piece of shit, you would still realize a enormous difference. But I can bet for the stuff you do, you would be satisfied with it.

Just go out and take a look at the drills at the store. If you can afford it, get yourself a mini drill unless need the larger chuck. You don't need the hammer definately, and you can get by without the impact. Best case scenario, get a combo pack with a drill and impact drill, and you will have 2 batteries that you can interchange on 20 minute charges for about 170 bucks (Makita). I've been using makita lithium batteries daily for the last 3 years (25 hours a week estimate) and these batteries will last about 1.5 years and die after about 2. For your case, the battery would never wear out from overuse because you won't be able to push it. However, it may deteriote because of old age but would be pretty much the same as any battery and would probably be at least 6 years.

[finbar]

My main purpose is to screw things in (ikea tables, tv mounts, lose cabinet bolts, lose fence bolts). My current drill cannot go through a piece of 2x4.

I think I need to do more research on the type of drill (hammer or impact) didn't know there were so many choices.

fasteners + impact driver FTW. My good shitty 10 yr old NiMh 12V impact still drives a 1/4" lag bolt into SPF studs, the batts are starting to die.

The hammer drill is goodish for making holes in masonry.


I can vouch for the Makita lithium cordless drills

In my past as an electrician, My 18v lithium makita has withstood some serious punishment, dropped on concrete from heights countless times, outdoors in the rain, basically used and abused on a daily basis.
Had it for almost 5 years, batteries are still good, and still drills through any type of shit you put in its way.

^squared.

Get the combo driver/drill kit.

The Li batts excel. Beware charging <0 C batts.

When it comes to tools you really want best of breed. Cheap tools will piss you off.

[Hehe]

It really depends on what you plan to do, different drills have different torques rating and depending on the material you would be drilling, it can make day-night difference.

For regular use at home, I'd suggest a 18v drill, as they carry anywhere between 400-500lb of torque. (12v usually peaks at 250 in comparison. Good for screwing stuff, but forget about tougher stuff like concrete) I have a Bosch Li-ion drill that I have nothing but good thing to say about it (500lb torque FTW)

And the general idea about tools is that, buy the best you can afford. A good set of tools last you a lifetime under the usage from home environment.

[Geoc]

I have a 18v Dewalt XRP drill, hands down its one of the best investment towards a tool I have ever made.

I kinda go against the idea that you shouldn't go overkill. When I got my drill the only thing I did was use it to drill simple stuff like drywall and sheet metal. But several months down the road I found my self drilling 140mm hole saws into various types of dense wood (even then the 18v was struggling a little). If I didn't get the 18v, I would've had a much bigger problem at hand.

[SpartanAir]

I use Makita 18v Li-ion only. Super light-weight, very reliable and strong, and at summit or KMS you can buy other individual tools with no batteries to add to your set.
My set has a drill, impact, skillsaw, jigsaw and flashlight. I'll be getting the cordless grinder and recip saw on their own.

DeWalt is fine but clunky and heavy, and to be honest, ugly. Milwaukee are great too but expensive.

Just don't buy Rigid or Ryobi they are junk.

[Greenstoner]

Dewalt man here

[Soundy]

1990 when I started working in car audio, I got one of these, in a kit with two 2.4V NiCd batteries and quick charger, for around $220:

http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/images/m0270_lg.jpg

It was eight years before the first battery wouldn't take a charge any more... three more years before the second one finally gave up the ghost - outstanding longevity for nicads.

I still have this tool, and it's still going strong, 22 years later - great for working on computers, too. Best tool investment I ever made. Picked up a second one a few years ago.

My co-worker has a Ryobi One+ collection that he loves... started with a 6-tool kit that HD had on for $300 (original nicad batteries) and has since added almost every other tool offering in the line to it, as well as several LIon batteries. Sure, they're not as robust as my 14.4V Milwaukee (his original drill actually detonated in the middle of a job once), or as strong overall, but *for the price* it's been a great deal for him. Having *all* his tools use the same batteries is a big plus, and having the RANGE of tools he's collected has been fantastic.

[materials]

I use a Milwaukee M12 every day for work on aircraft and it's the best drill I've ever used. I got it from Amazon on boxing day for $100 which was a GREAT deal. Nice and portable too and not heavy at all with the huge battery pack.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS385qHo4MDn0z2YpCJ4oFVkofmrlW9X uXBgNrZB28DELC5Imyf7RMrTwnJ

[blkgsr]

makita, 18v compact drill and impact combo kit (Home Depot/KMS etc)

[tiger_handheld]

the guys who are recommending makita/ryobi/dwalt 18v. Will those drills drill through studs on walls?

I was looking at hammer drills but it seems overkill.

[MindBomber]

the guys who are recommending makita/ryobi/dwalt 18v. Will those drills drill through studs on walls?

I was looking at hammer drills but it seems overkill.

Yes, and yes, on the very unlikely occasion you would actually need a hammer drill at some point just rent/borrow one.

[Great68]

I think my work predominantly uses Panasonic & Bosch. If they can stand up to heavy commercial construction then they're more than adequate for the home DIYer.

[fliptuner]

I've only needed hammer drills for drilling through concrete or driving lag bolts through 6x6's or bigger.

[604nguyen]

hammer drills on a cordless IMO are pure garbage anyways, unless you get a Hilti cordless....

will drill thru masonry fine, but is a POS when it comes to drilling solid concrete

[gramser57]

Went to home depot today saw this Ryobi 18V drill with impact driver for $59
RYOBI | 18V Drill and Impact Driver Kit | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/18v-drill-and-impact-driver-kit/943545)

[Hondaracer]

if you really need a hammer drill, just rent one

if we are talking about wood studs, even the shittiest drill should be able to screw/drill out studs

[Klutch]

im thinking about grabbing the new dewalt 20v drill and impact driver, anyone used the 20v yet?

[Marco911]

im thinking about grabbing the new dewalt 20v drill and impact driver, anyone used the 20v yet?

The 20V DeWalt is really 18V nominal power. They rate it at 20V purely for marketing. The new Milwaukee Li 18V Fuel with the brushless motor is supposed to outperform the DeWalt in all performance area because of the superior motor and Li technology according to the performance tests. Check it out if you have a chance.

[Psykopathik]

I thought ridgid owned ryobi not milwaukee.

guess what? All 3 companies are owned by the same compay: Techtronic Industries :p

ever notice the physical similarities between Milwaukee and Ridgid drills? also all 3 are sold at Home Depot.I'd prefer Milwaukee Personally, however the Ridgid Lifetime warranty always gets me.

[Soundy]

guess what? All 3 companies are owned by the same compay: Techtronic Industries :p

ever notice the physical similarities between Milwaukke and Ridgid drills? also all 3 are sold at Home Depot.I'd prefer Milwaukee Personally, however the Ridgid Lifetime warranty always gets me.

I picked up a little Ridgid 12V drill/flashlight kit at HD... couple weeks later I saw the identical drill on a shelf at Rona, except it was yellow and black and labelled "Stanley".

It's like fucking cars anymore, the badge doesn't mean shit, everything inside is made by the same two or three places in the world.

"Russian components, American components... ALL MADE IN TAIWAN!"

[Soundy]

The new Milwaukee Li 18V Fuel with the brushless motor is the C4S of the tool world.
Fixed.

[Soundy]

I thought ridgid owned ryobi not milwaukee.

You and your conspiracy theories.

Rigid, Ryobi and Milwaukee are all actually made in Japan and are infested with Fukushima radiation. But on the bright side, their chargers don't register on smart meters, so you can charge your tools secure in the knowledge that nobody will know.

[Phil@rise]

I got a Makita Li 18 volt impact and 1/2drill. I've had both for 3 years now both awesome units used daily non stop by three people as such I had to invest in a couple more batteries. The drill will even power through 3/8 thick steel with 5 inch holesaws. I've never seen any other hand held drill do that. Its done it countless times on custom chassis work. The only other the drill I'd consider buying is a milwaukee.

[jackal]

CRAFTSMAN!!!! their 19.2v cordless drills go on sale frequently for $100 i've owned one for many years. i use it all the time. the batteries are quite good. i know of many companies that use them as their workhorse drills.

[blkgsr]

ryobi, craftsman etc are all massive heavy ass pieces of shit

for the home DIY'er, the COMPACT drill and impact guns from makita/dewalt are all you will every need

the full size drills are useless and way too heavy

i don't ever use my compact drill unless i'm actually drilling...any screwing etc i use my impact

[tiger_handheld]

RYOBI | 18V Lithium-Ion Drill and Impact Driver Kit | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/18v-lithium-ion-drill-and-impact-driver-kit/965648)

just picked that up from home depot for 79 ($20 gc ftw!!)

Hope this will last me another few years!

[RRxtar]

CRAFTSMAN!!!! their 19.2v cordless drills go on sale frequently for $100 i've owned one for many years. i use it all the time. the batteries are quite good. i know of many companies that use them as their workhorse drills.
i have one. got it for christmas about 5 years ago. batteries last alright, and have a 1 hour charge time so the charging battery is charged before the one youre using dies so you've always got a good battery.

variable clutch works fantastic. hi and lo speed settings work ok. high speed is a bit slow for drilling tho.

its fairly big and heavy tho.

wouldn't recommend purchasing one unless it was really on sale.

[Marco911]

I picked up a little Ridgid 12V drill/flashlight kit at HD... couple weeks later I saw the identical drill on a shelf at Rona, except it was yellow and black and labelled "Stanley".

It's like fucking cars anymore, the badge doesn't mean shit, everything inside is made by the same two or three places in the world.

"Russian components, American components... ALL MADE IN TAIWAN!"

I can pretty much guarantee that there is no common platform sharing between Stanley and Ridgid power tools.

[Soundy]

I can pretty much guarantee that there is no common platform sharing between Stanley and Ridgid power tools.

Well if not, then there's some industrial espionage going on, because other than the color scheme, these two drills look identical.

[Death2Theft]

Enjoy the caesium-137 with 30 year half life, dont shit on this thread before you can properly address the original.
You and your conspiracy theories.

Rigid, Ryobi and Milwaukee are all actually made in Japan and are infested with Fukushima radiation. But on the bright side, their chargers don't register on smart meters, so you can charge your tools secure in the knowledge that nobody will know.

[Soundy]

Enjoy the caesium-137 with 30 year half life, dont shit on this thread before you can properly address the original.
Can't help it - it's YOUR shit that's stuck to my shoes after I walked all over it. :fuckyea:

[tiger_handheld]

k guys. enough bickering.


help me pick

A) RYOBI | 18V Drill and Impact Driver Kit | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/18v-drill-and-impact-driver-kit/943545)

B) RYOBI | 18V Lithium-Ion Drill and Impact Driver Kit | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/18v-lithium-ion-drill-and-impact-driver-kit/965648)


I bought B for 79.99 today, but just opened and realized it only comes with ONE battery pack.
Should I return it and buy A? A comes with 2 battery packs!

[jdmhaze]

Id stick with option B. One L-Ion battery is better imo, and pretty much all you need for around the house etc.

[MindBomber]

Option B

Unless you anticipate taking on a project where you will be actively using the drill for over an hour, the second battery will go unused.

[snowball]

That's really cheap, let us know if it's any good lol

[Soundy]

The great thing is, both of those use Ryobi's ONE+ battery design, so the standard and Lithium batteries are fully interchangeable. You could get the first kit and buy the lithium batteries later, and all of them will work with all the ONE+ tools. My buddy started off with the six-tool kit with the standard batteries, then started adding lithium batteries... now he uses the lithium ones for the heavier tools and saves the nicads for the radio, flashlight, etc.

http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/catalog/17964.P125_1_Final_4.jpg

[Jas29]

I have option B no problems with it so far

[marksport]

Even tho you are looking for a drill, KMS in Langley is selling these new for $80 until the end of the month. Bosch 21618 1/2" impact wrench. No battery or charger but still cheap enough. 350ft-lbs

http://digitaltorquewrenchmore.info/prod-images/I/41iXLENsqpL.jpg

[jackal]

from what i see on thier site its the 14.4v for 80$ and it comes with batteries and charger and 120 for JUST the 18v gun

[skyxx]

^ I would never buy a 14.4V as an Impact. It's useless.

[marksport]

from what i see on thier site its the 14.4v for 80$ and it comes with batteries and charger and 120 for JUST the 18v gun

Yes, that's their website and flyer price, but the prices I have is Langley in-store special. I went to the Abbotsford and Coquitlam stores later and the next day, they were either sold out or the flyer prices.

^ I would never buy a 14.4V as an Impact. It's useless.

I have a Snap-on 14.4V 3/8 impact and it works well as it is smaller and lighter still capable of 230ft-lbs.

[B!tch]

Father's day is next month and most store put tools on sale.

Rona has dewalt on sale right now and if you wait for the weekends they have either scratch cards for savings, 15% off or 15% back in gift cards.

[Psykopathik]

go with B

[tiger_handheld]

chose to keep B.

but it shitty that it did not come with a case. now looking for a case that cant fit two drills and a charger.

[UFO]

I bought set A on impulse. I think I'm going to return it though. I use a power drill in the condo maybe once every 3-4 months. I've never use an impact drill before in my life. If I ever need to use a drill I'll just borrow one or buy a basic corded drill.

[Psykopathik]

impact driver is NOT for drilling.

a hammer drill is for drilling.

[Gridlock]

impact driver is NOT for drilling.

a hammer drill is for drilling.

Hammer drill is for drilling concrete. I bought one, and never use it. Handy to have for when I have to drill concrete...but it rarely comes up(for me).

[Soundy]

impact driver is NOT for drilling.

a hammer drill is for drilling.

Hammer drill is for drilling concrete. I bought one, and never use it. Handy to have for when I have to drill concrete...but it rarely comes up(for me).

+1. Impact driver is for things like loosening stuck bolts, or zapping your lugnuts on tight without torquing your arm out of its socket.

Hammer drill just adds the hammer action for drilling concrete, masonry, etc. Small hammer drills like this are good for drilling smaller holes up to 3/8" or so for anchor plugs, Tapcon screws, running small wires through... anything bigger, or for going all the way through thick walls or blocks, you want a good SDS drill like a Hilti.

[Marco911]

ryobi, craftsman etc are all massive heavy ass pieces of shit

for the home DIY'er, the COMPACT drill and impact guns from makita/dewalt are all you will every need

the full size drills are useless and way too heavy

i don't ever use my compact drill unless i'm actually drilling...any screwing etc i use my impact

Those are made for lesbians. Just sayin'

[MindBomber]

^ I would never buy a 14.4V as an Impact. It's useless.

It may not have enough torque to break badly frozen bolts free, but it's enough to speed up removing lug nuts, most bolts and is a lot quicker and easier than a ratchet.

Aside from that, cordless impact wrenches like these are primarily designed for construction applications where they're used on lag bolts and such.

[604nguyen]

^ I would never buy a 14.4V as an Impact. It's useless.

^its not useless. It really depends what you use it for

to be honest, there were times where i wish i could trade my 18v for a 14.4v cordless.... when your holding it in your hand literally most of the 8 hour work day, shit gets tiring cuz of the extra weight

[snowball]

If anyone is looking for a deal, between june 7-9 summit tools has the 20V li-on dewalt compact drill + bonus impact driver and battery for 219.99

[maxxxboost]

k guys. enough bickering.


help me pick

A) RYOBI | 18V Drill and Impact Driver Kit | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/18v-drill-and-impact-driver-kit/943545)

B) RYOBI | 18V Lithium-Ion Drill and Impact Driver Kit | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/18v-lithium-ion-drill-and-impact-driver-kit/965648)


I bought B for 79.99 today, but just opened and realized it only comes with ONE battery pack.
Should I return it and buy A? A comes with 2 battery packs!

Was thinking of buying B as well. I saw it advertised for $99?

[Psykopathik]

Hammer drill is for drilling concrete. I bought one, and never use it. Handy to have for when I have to drill concrete...but it rarely comes up(for me).

guess i wasnt clear :( yes hammer drills are for drilling concrete, rock (with appropriate bits)

My Milwaukee M12 Hammer drill does double duty (say it 10 time quickly) and can switch between Hammer mode and regular drilling/screwing mode.

90% of homeowners will never use a hammer drill. 80% of statistics are made up on the spot. 60% of the time, it works every time.

[Soundy]

... (say it 10 time quickly) ...

itititititititititit

:lawl:

[AzNightmare]

Bump...

Can some of you experienced people recommend me a power drill? I seem to have misplaced my old one.
I figured it would be more easier if I just list what I need it for, and then you guys can recommend me something that fits.

-I just need one to do stuff here and there around the house, DIY projects.
-Probably will use it less than 20x a year.
-Only going to drill through wood, 1" thick at most.
-I'll be working inside my house, so I have no problem with corded if that can cut cost.
-The cheaper the better, I don't need something super fancy.

I'm not sure what role the voltage and amps play... and not sure what is "standard" rpm or torque for power drills.

I need this pretty urgent, and plan to buy one tomorrow night, so thanks in advance for quick responses.

(TL;DR, just read the bolded text. Thanks.)

[snowball]

Bump...

Can some of you experienced people recommend me a power drill? I seem to have misplaced my old one.
I figured it would be more easier if I just list what I need it for, and then you guys can recommend me something that fits.

-I just need one to do stuff here and there around the house, DIY projects.
-Probably will use it less than 20x a year.
-Only going to drill through wood, 1" thick at most.
-I'll be working inside my house, so I have no problem with corded if that can cut cost.
-The cheaper the better, I don't need something super fancy.

I'm not sure what role the voltage and amps play... and not sure what is "standard" rpm or torque for power drills.

I need this pretty urgent, and plan to buy one tomorrow night, so thanks in advance for quick responses.

(TL;DR, just read the bolded text. Thanks.)

cheapest corded drill you can find will do that easily for a dirt cheap price $50>

[AzNightmare]

I just did a quick search on Home Depot

RYOBI | RYOBI 3/8 In. VSR Corded Drill | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ryobi-3-8-in-vsr-corded-drill/940154)
Only $29.99

Powerful 4.5 amp motor for various applications
Variable speed, reversing trigger for drilling and driving requirements
Keyless 3/8 In. chuck enables quick and easy bit changes
2 built-in levels for accurate horizontal and vertical operations
0-1,400 RPM increases power and speed

It's listed as 7.8 lbs though. Seems a bit on the heavy side.

But is this one good??

[Marco911]

I just did a quick search on Home Depot

RYOBI | RYOBI 3/8 In. VSR Corded Drill | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ryobi-3-8-in-vsr-corded-drill/940154)
Only $29.99



It's listed as 7.8 lbs though. Seems a bit on the heavy side.

But is this one good??

Yes. More than sufficient for your application. I would, however, go for a cordless drill rather than a corded.

[Soundy]

Any corded drill will easily out-power *any* cordless... you never have to worry about pulling it out and finding you forgot to charge the batteries... never have to worry about replacing batteries once they stop taking a charge... go with the corded and just be done with it.

Cambodian Tire has a corded Jobmate (their house "bargain" brand) drill for $20: Jobmate 3.5A Corded Drill/Driver, 3/8-in | Canadian Tire (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/2/CordedPowerTools/DrillsCorded/PRD~0542991P/Jobmate+3.5A+Corded+Drill%2BDriver%2C+3%2B8-in.jsp?locale=en) (7.8lbs does sound a bit heavy, the Jobmate one is only 3.3...)

XS Cargo lists a couple corded drills at $20 as well:
Power XT | 5.4 AMP 1/2'' Electric Impact Drill | XT300 | XS Cargo Brand name Close outs- Tools / Hardware | Corded Tools (http://www.shopxscargo.com/product_catalogue/cat_product_details.asp?category_id=24&product_code=30286&sub_category_1_id=130&category=Corded%20Tools)
and
Power XT | 3/8'' Electric Drill | XT170 | XS Cargo Brand name Close outs- Tools / Hardware | Corded Tools (http://www.shopxscargo.com/product_catalogue/cat_product_details.asp?category_id=24&product_code=30285&sub_category_1_id=130&category=Corded%20Tools)

For your needs, I'd suggest the second one of those two - you'll find the keyless chuck more convenient to work with, and you shouldn't need the extra power of the first one.

And there's always Princess Auto... check places like Home Hardware and RONA for deals as well. If you can find a good sale and get a $40 or $50 drill for $20 or $30, go for it - something a little higher-end will definitely last longer.

One other thing: look at picking up a "bit kit" like this: RYOBI | Drilling and Driving Accessory Kit – 60 Bits | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/drilling-and-driving-accessory-kit-150-60-bits/925051)

http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/catalog/17964.A986001_1_Final_4.jpg

Gives you a basic selection of all the main types of bits you'd use around home: high-speed steel twist bits, spade and auger bits for wood, hole saws, masonry bits (for brick and concrete), and several screwdriver bits and nut drivers (cue Beavis and Butt-head). Doesn't need to be that particular kit; definitely check for something on sale and get a good bargain... but something along those lines that will give you most of what you should need. Here's a couple more, same idea: Jobmate 105-piece Drill Bit Set | Canadian Tire (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/PowerToolAccessories/DrillBitsSetsAccessories/PRD~0543751P/Jobmate+105-piece+Drill+Bit+Set.jsp?locale=en)

Mastercraft 61-piece Drill and Drive Accessory Set | Canadian Tire (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/PowerToolAccessories/DrillBitsSetsAccessories/PRD~0543571P/Mastercraft+61-piece+Drill+and+Drive+Accessory+Set.jsp?locale=en)

This one's listed as normally $52, on sale for $21: Mastercraft Drill/Driving Accessory Set, 115-pc | Canadian Tire (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/PowerToolAccessories/DrillBitsSetsAccessories/PRD~0543574P/Mastercraft+Drill%2BDriving+Accessory+Set%2C+115-pc.jsp?locale=en)

[Gridlock]

I cannot emphasize quality enough.

A while ago, I had bought a cheap hammer drill from CTC...mastercraft brand. I don't do much that requires a hammer drill, but on those rare occasions, its a nice thing to be able to do.

Anyway, I usually just use it as a normal drill.

Well, the other day I was using it to mix mortar for tiling. Now, I freely admit...it was beyond the scope of a normal drill, BUT I had been using an old black and decker for years and it was still good..but the chuck was slipping and the cord was screwed.

I'm mixing away and smoke starts billowing out the back of this thing. I stopped before totally destroying the thing, but its pretty much f'd.

Spend the extra money and buy something with balls.

[Hondaracer]

Hammer drills take the most abuse out of almost any corded tool like that, hilti or nothing

[Gridlock]

I only ever used the hammer function twice, and it was on cinder block...this was purely overloading the drill because it was weak.

[Soundy]

Hammer drills take a different type of abuse though, and most of the design there goes into the chuck and hammer mechanism. Mixing mortar is a whole different type of torture that even most Hilti hammer drills would have trouble with: it puts an extremely heavy load on the motor, causing much higher current draw.

Most likely, the smoke in Gridlock's case came from the brushes, which are made of a fairly soft carbon compound that's designed to wear down. It's like with replaceable plastic parts in cars: they're designed to wear and break first, saving other, more expensive parts. And in the same vein, brushes in motors tend to be fairly cheap and easy to replace (professional tools often make them removable from the outside, so there's no disassembly required).

[AzNightmare]

So between these two kits...

Jobmate 105-piece Drill Bit Set | Canadian Tire (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/PowerToolAccessories/DrillBitsSetsAccessories/PRD~0543751P/Jobmate+105-piece+Drill+Bit+Set.jsp?locale=en)

Mastercraft Drill/Driving Accessory Set, 115-pc | Canadian Tire (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/PowerToolAccessories/DrillBitsSetsAccessories/PRD~0543574P/Mastercraft+Drill%2BDriving+Accessory+Set%2C+115-pc.jsp?locale=en)

Almost the same price. But does the Jobmate one include that plastic folding case?
Cause the Mastercraft one seems to just come in that "snap-together" plastic shell. :heckno:

Some drills have variable speeds. Is that the same as "VSR"?
And what does this really mean? Does it mean there is settings to control the speed?
The speed of the drill I used in the past is controlled by the amount of pressure I press down on the trigger.
I would like my drill to operate like that.


I think a hammer drill will be excessive for my needs. Even if it's nice to have something better "just in case".

I'll most likely buy a new drill if I ever have a need to drill through masonary or other things besides wood.

[MindBomber]

I've used a friends Jobmate drill, it's an absolute and complete waste of money. It's a single speed drill, meaning it will only operate at one speed pre-set by the manufacturer. It's nearly impossible to start drilling or driving anything at the high RPM setting of a single speed drill, making them essentially useless. It wouldn't pay $1 for it.

You're looking for a drill with variable speed control, it will have the capacity for an infinitely variable number of speed settings based on how far you depress the trigger. VSR stands for variable speed reversible, it's a drive system that creates a forward, neutral, and reverse gear.

[Matlock]

So between these two kits...

Jobmate 105-piece Drill Bit Set | Canadian Tire (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/PowerToolAccessories/DrillBitsSetsAccessories/PRD~0543751P/Jobmate+105-piece+Drill+Bit+Set.jsp?locale=en)

Mastercraft Drill/Driving Accessory Set, 115-pc | Canadian Tire (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/PowerToolAccessories/DrillBitsSetsAccessories/PRD~0543574P/Mastercraft+Drill%2BDriving+Accessory+Set%2C+115-pc.jsp?locale=en)

Almost the same price. But does the Jobmate one include that plastic folding case?
Cause the Mastercraft one seems to just come in that "snap-together" plastic shell. :heckno:

Some drills have variable speeds. Is that the same as "VSR"?
And what does this really mean? Does it mean there is settings to control the speed?
The speed of the drill I used in the past is controlled by the amount of pressure I press down on the trigger.
I would like my drill to operate like that.


I think a hammer drill will be excessive for my needs. Even if it's nice to have something better "just in case".

I'll most likely buy a new drill if I ever have a need to drill through masonary or other things besides wood.

Both Jobmate and Mastercraft brands of drill bits are probably shit. Although, I do believe Mastercraft has a lifetime warranty of some sort. My co worker just busted a new spade bit when drilling through normal MDF! Piece of shrapnel flying through the air! (One good reason to wear glasses) He got it replaced right away at Canadian Tire with his receipt, no problems.

Another thing I noticed about cheap drill bit sets. For the screw drivers, the Robertson bits are usually the shits when it comes to fitting into the screw heads. I hate stripping screws so I threw all of the cheap screw bits that came with my last set out and got some better ones.

If you don't think you'll need to use a hammer drill, then you probably wont. I rarely ever use mine at work.




Has anyone tried the new Makita brushless motor drills? I'm intrigued, but I don't need a new drill just yet. More toys

[AzNightmare]

So just when I thought I had it all figured out...

So is "variable speed control" different than "variable speed reversible" or just different term? (why would a drill need a neutral gear?)

I assume all drills can rotate both ways?

So based on the Variable speed control, am I now looking at a much more expensive power drill?

And what drill set do you guys recommend??
I'm not going to be using these drills a lot so they don't have to be superior quality or anything.
but stripping screw heads and flying shrapnel sounds uncomfortably dangerous...

[snowball]

So just when I thought I had it all figured out...

So is "variable speed control" different than "variable speed reversible" or just different term? (why would a drill need a neutral gear?)

I assume all drills can rotate both ways?

So based on the Variable speed control, am I now looking at a much more expensive power drill?

And what drill set do you guys recommend??
I'm not going to be using these drills a lot so they don't have to be superior quality or anything.
but stripping screw heads and flying shrapnel sounds uncomfortably dangerous...

Originally you asked for a tool that will just get the job done for you so we recommended the mid 90s Kia Sephia... it has 4 wheels, and engine and gets you around... aka/ Ryobi, Jobmate.

But I don't think you really want that, you probably want something more sturdy and want some peace of mind too. So you're going to have to spend a little more for something a lot better, like a Honda Civic...

these are a little more but A LOT better:
DeWALT Deluxe 7A Corded Drill/Driver, 3/8-in | Canadian Tire (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/2/CordedPowerTools/DrillsCorded/PRD~0542992P/DeWALT+Deluxe+7A+Corded+Drill%2BDriver%2C+3%2B8-in.jsp?locale=en)

Milwaukee | Milwaukee Tradesman Drill, 7.5 Amp - 3/8 Inches | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/milwaukee-tradesman-drill-75-amp-3-8-inches/916693)

DEWALT | DeWALT Heavy-Duty 3/8" VSR Pistol Grip Drill with Keyless Chuck | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/dewalt-heavy-duty-3-8-vsr-pistol-grip-drill-with-keyless-chuck/907316)

[MindBomber]

So just when I thought I had it all figured out...

So is "variable speed control" different than "variable speed reversible" or just different term? (why would a drill need a neutral gear?)

I assume all drills can rotate both ways?

So based on the Variable speed control, am I now looking at a much more expensive power drill?

And what drill set do you guys recommend??
I'm not going to be using these drills a lot so they don't have to be superior quality or anything.
but stripping screw heads and flying shrapnel sounds uncomfortably dangerous...

Strictly speaking, not all newly purchased drills have a forward and reverse gear. Drill presses do not always have a reverse gear, but you would be hard pressed to find a hand drill without a reverse gear because there is an obvious need for one.

A Milwaukee, Makita, Dewalt, etc. 3/8 corded drill will only be about $80 new and will last many years with average homeowner use. If you decide you want cordless, the price will vary based on the voltage rating, but expect to pay anywhere from $150-300. If you're looking to keep this a low budget purchase since it won't be used extensively, there's nothing wrong with picking one up from a pawn shop, craigslist, etc., because you'll use it little enough that even if there's existing wear on the components it should last a long time.

[AzNightmare]

Originally you asked for a tool that will just get the job done for you so we recommended the mid 90s Kia Sephia... it has 4 wheels, and engine and gets you around... aka/ Ryobi, Jobmate.

But I don't think you really want that, you probably want something more sturdy and want some peace of mind too. So you're going to have to spend a little more for something a lot better, like a Honda Civic...

these are a little more but A LOT better:
DeWALT Deluxe 7A Corded Drill/Driver, 3/8-in | Canadian Tire (http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/2/CordedPowerTools/DrillsCorded/PRD~0542992P/DeWALT+Deluxe+7A+Corded+Drill%2BDriver%2C+3%2B8-in.jsp?locale=en)

Milwaukee | Milwaukee Tradesman Drill, 7.5 Amp - 3/8 Inches | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/milwaukee-tradesman-drill-75-amp-3-8-inches/916693)

DEWALT | DeWALT Heavy-Duty 3/8" VSR Pistol Grip Drill with Keyless Chuck | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/dewalt-heavy-duty-3-8-vsr-pistol-grip-drill-with-keyless-chuck/907316)

I knew what I was going to use it for, but I guess I didn't know what I wanted.

The drill I misplaced was my dad's old drill. And pretty much the only drill I've ever used, so I guess I just assumed that was "standard".
I can't recall what brand or what kind of drill it was, but it was perfect for my needs.

I didn't realize the "varied speed control" was an actual feature, but yeah, I would definitely pay more to get that option.

[Matlock]

^We use that Milwaukee corded drill at work. Just imagine how many houses per year x how many holes we drill for every wire. Long 2" bit through 8+ studs, no problem. I like that drill, but I like the heavy old all metal Milwaukee power drills even more. Now, those old things are beasts that can tear off your arms.

[Great68]

Agree with Soundy, if you're only using a drill a handful of times a year than a cordless drill isn't worth it.

[LP700-4]

Dewalt or Makita or nothing. Seriously if you're going to use it more than 10 times a year spend the extra cash and get something better.

[MindBomber]

Dewalt or Makita or nothing. Seriously if you're going to use it more than 10 times a year spend the extra cash and get something better.

:facepalm:

[Marco911]

Dewalt or Makita or nothing. Seriously if you're going to use it more than 10 times a year spend the extra cash and get something better.

Those brands have been vastly overtaken by Milwaukee.

[Soundy]

Those brands have been vastly overtaken by Milwaukee.

I'm still using a Milwaukee electric screwdriver I bought in 1990. It saw 8 years of solid use before the first (Nicad) battery wouldn't hold a charge anymore... three more years before the second one gave out.

[Matlock]

Oh and if you haven't signed up for this contest yet, there's still a little bit more time to do so.

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/c13.0.403.403/p403x403/574622_440366406007317_2018796628_n.jpg

Go to Facebook and check out Hilti, they have their full line up of 18v tools up for grabs in a contest. I wish I could win it.
http://on.fb.me/Q8s1kf

[godwin]

I would suggest a tool chuck vs a tooless.. especially if you have to drill in tight spaces.

[AzNightmare]

So I ended up going with:
DEWALT | DeWALT Heavy-Duty 3/8" VSR Pistol Grip Drill with Keyless Chuck | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/dewalt-heavy-duty-3-8-vsr-pistol-grip-drill-with-keyless-chuck/907316#)

http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/catalog/15747.DWD112_4.jpg

It cost me $69.99 instead of the price shown on the site. ("Price and availability may vary by store.")


It would have been nice to get the Milwaukee one that's on sale for $59.99,
but I tried holding the one on display, and with the short handle,
I couldn't figure out how to pick up the drill without using the top two fingers to press down on the trigger every time.

:suspicious:

I noticed many drills have a big trigger for two fingers. Is there an advantage of having a bigger trigger?
Seems like if the machinery inside is doing all the work, why would one need two fingers to push down the trigger?

Anyway, the drill seems to be good. I'll get a drill set another time, as I still have some drill bits lying around.

I would suggest a tool chuck vs a tooless.. especially if you have to drill in tight spaces.

I don't understand what you mean. Do you mean key chuck vs keyless chuk?
What does that have to do with tight spaces?

[godwin]

Oops yup.. keyless takes up more space in tight corners and since they are wider they can't be pushed in as far. The difference is noticeable when you are trying to run wires in attic etc.

Big trigger is designed for gloved hands.


I don't understand what you mean. Do you mean key chuck vs keyless chuk?
What does that have to do with tight spaces?

[2damaxmr2]

Makita ftw.

[MindBomber]

Dewalt or Makita or nothing. Seriously if you're going to use it more than 10 times a year spend the extra cash and get something better.

You chose to fail me, despite no one failing you, why?

It's quite clear that you have limited experience with power tools, I'm not sure why you attempted to give advice on them.

Makita is good, but has been surpassed by Milwaukee at the mid-range level of power tools.

Dewalt has been at the bottom of professional grade tools for a long time.

There are multiple professional grade power tool brands: Festool, Hiliti, Milwaukee, Bosch, Makita, Rigid, Dewalt; Why would you only consider Dewalt or Makita?

A homeowner using a power drill ten times a year, accumulates less total usage in that year than the majority of people giving advice in this thread do in an hour while working. Brands like Ryobi exist and are very successful because they suit a homeowners needs perfectly; so tell me, if a homeowner would not feel any limitation using a Ryobi drill, why should they spend more to buy a higher grade one?

if homeowners should not consider anything less than Makita or Dewalt, should I not consider anything less than Festool or Hilti?

[LP700-4]

You chose to fail me, despite no one failing you, why?

It's quite clear that you have limited experience with power tools, I'm not sure why you attempted to give advice on them.

Makita is good, but has been surpassed by Milwaukee at the mid-range level of power tools.

Dewalt has been at the bottom of professional grade tools for a long time.

There are multiple professional grade power tool brands: Festool, Hiliti, Milwaukee, Bosch, Makita, Rigid, Dewalt; Why would you only consider Dewalt or Makita?

A homeowner using a power drill ten times a year, accumulates less total usage in that year than the majority of people giving advice in this thread do in an hour while working. Brands like Ryobi exist and are very successful because they suit a homeowners needs perfectly; so tell me, if a homeowner would not feel any limitation using a Ryobi drill, why should they spend more to buy a higher grade one?

if homeowners should not consider anything less than Makita or Dewalt, should I not consider anything less than Festool or Hilti?

I never failed you bud.

Edit: WTF i don't remember failing you? Freakin RS mobile man......

Sorry man genuine mistake didnt mean to fail you. Removed it.

[MindBomber]

Oh, okay cool. I'll reciporcate and remove my fail later, on mobile atm.

[Soundy]

Dewalt has been at the bottom of professional grade tools for a long time.
Pretty much since they got bought by Black & Decker and became little more than B&D in a different color scheme.

[Hondaracer]

As far as my hands on use, the dewalt impact/drill combo beats anything home depot sells besides the Milwaukee brushless stuff, they feel the sturdiest and the best IMO

[SpuGen]

I never failed you bud.

Edit: WTF i don't remember failing you? Freakin RS mobile man......

Sorry man genuine mistake didnt mean to fail you. Removed it.

Calling bullshit.

Simply on the fact that you can't fail/thank or even see fail/thanks on RS mobile.
Both the app and the mobile version.

[Hondaracer]

Nigga u owned

[LP700-4]

Calling bullshit.

Simply on the fact that you can't fail/thank or even see fail/thanks on RS mobile.
Both the app and the mobile version.

I was using UAFaker on my iphone bud. So it was the desktop version of RS on a mobile device

:fullofwin:

[AzNightmare]

So when a drill bit is coated "X" material?
Is that the same as when they say Titanium drill bit, Cobalt drill bit, etc.

Or is "coated" like a marketing trick?

[Marco911]

^^Just buy Milwaukee accessory bits. They are the best. They are usually made in the US or Germany.

[Matlock]

^Milwaukee has 2 types of qualities for their drill bits + sawzall blades. Once in a while home depot will have a "special" where the bits or blades are much cheaper and those ones are usually the shittier versions. You have to look inside to see if they are different from the usual ones.

[MindBomber]

So when a drill bit is coated "X" material?
Is that the same as when they say Titanium drill bit, Cobalt drill bit, etc.

Or is "coated" like a marketing trick?

No, and no.

Drill bits are coated to inexpensively increase heat resistance, but the coatings wear off or are ground off when sharpened. I suppose, Canadian Tire selling sets of 'titanium' bits is somewhat using the coating as a marketing tool; overall though, coatings have a purpose in the market and will improve the quality of any bit to a degree.

What really differentiates the quality of bits is the material they are made from. Cheap bits are low carbon steel, decent bits are high carbon steel, good bits are high speed steel, very good bits are cobalt, tungsten carbide core bits are good as well, you can get solid tungsten carbide bits but they're extremely expensive machining bits; I could go on for a long time, but you get the idea.

Buy individual Milwaukee bits as you need them. Do not get tempted by one of Canadian Tires 7 million piece kits of low carbon, titanium nitride coated bit sets, because 99% of them will never be of any use and they're low quality.

[LuHua]

Anyone have any experience with Ridgid power tools? Looking to see what I can expect from my 18V drill/impact set in the long run, even though there is the lifetime warranty on them.

[DsZ24]

Anyone have any experience with Ridgid power tools? Looking to see what I can expect from my 18V drill/impact set in the long run, even though there is the lifetime warranty on them.

I had the 18v drill/impact driver combo, the power was alright from them but both of the batteries stopped working about a year into them. This was the first set of lithium ion batteries that came out so hopefully in the newer versions they've fixed those problems.

[MindBomber]

IMO. Makita and Dewalt, and, Rigid and Ryobi, are pretty close.

Festool > Hilti > Milwaukee > Bosch > Makita > Dewalt > Rigid > Ryobi > Hitachi > MasterCraft > Black and Decker > Panasonic > Jobmate

Anyone have any experience with Ridgid power tools? Looking to see what I can expect from my 18V drill/impact set in the long run, even though there is the lifetime warranty on them.

Realllyyyy hard to answer that question. Depends amount of use, type of use, etc...

[dn53]

Milwaukee 18V Li-Ion 3pc Combo Kit [MILW-269123 ] - $219.95 : KMS Tools & Equipment from Vancouver BC, Selling quality tools at affordable prices all over Canada. Largest powertool, handtool and woodworking machinery retailer in Canada. (http://www.kmstools.com/milwaukee-18v-li-ion-3pc-combo-kit-18696)

What do you guys think? I just ordered it last night. Plan on using it for automotive related applications at work

[Soundy]

Milwaukee 18V Li-Ion 3pc Combo Kit [MILW-269123 ] - $219.95 : KMS Tools & Equipment from Vancouver BC, Selling quality tools at affordable prices all over Canada. Largest powertool, handtool and woodworking machinery retailer in Canada. (http://www.kmstools.com/milwaukee-18v-li-ion-3pc-combo-kit-18696)

What do you guys think? I just ordered it last night. Plan on using it for automotive related applications at work

That's a pretty screamin' deal for Milwaukee. The drill alone I think normally goes for $200 or $250.

As far as Ridgid, I picked up their 12V cordless multi-tool and some extra heads for it, it's been working pretty well... grabbed the 12V driver/flashlight combo as well, that drill has pretty much replaced my oooooold 14.4V Milwaukee - doesn't have the battery life in heavy usage, but keeps up with it power-wise, at a fraction of the size and weight.

http://www.cordless-drill-reviews.com/images/Ridgid-R92008-Photo3.jpg

http://www.oneprojectcloser.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/ridgid-job-max-tool.jpg

^Got the impact driver and jigsaw head for it... next will probably be the drill head, maybe the sabre saw.

One neat thing we found: my coworker has an extensive collection of Ryobi One+ tools, including their multi-tool of the same design... the Ridgid and Ryobi heads are interchangeable, so if I ever need more juice out of the jigsaw, I can just snap it on his 18V motor :)

The one thing unique to Ridgid: LIFETIME WARRANTY ON THE BATTERIES.

http://www.ridgid.com/Tools/Power-Tool-Warranty

WHAT IS COVERED UNDER THE LIFETIME SERVICE AGREEMENT: The Lifetime Service Agreement on RIDGID® Hand Held Power Tools, Stationary Power Tools and Pneumatic Tools covers all worn parts in properly maintained tools, including normal wear items such as brushes, chucks, motors, switches, gears and even cordless batteries in your qualifying RIDGID®Brand hand held and stationary power tools; and replacement rings, driver blades and bumpers on RIDGID® Brand pneumatic tools for the lifetime of the original owner. This Lifetime Service Agreement does not apply to other RIDGID® Brand products

http://lumberjocks.com/SeaQuest/blog/27189
I decided to try something different. Ridgid “claimed” that their lifetime warranty would cover batteries on cordless tools. I took the plunge and bought a Ridgid cordless drill and have used it faithfully for the past 6 years. It’s been getting tired and doesn’t hold a charge for long so I decided it was time to see if this “Lifetime Warranty” was legit or just marketing hype. I called the Ridgid service centre and was told to bring in the drill as well as batteries and charger. I left it with them for a few days and am now home with my drill, completely rejuvinated due to two brand new batteries that cost me nothing and were replaced without hassle and no questions asked. Very cool!! I will never buy any other brand of cordless tool because of this.

[SkunkWorks]

Bump back up - looking for a cordless drill for the father. Any thoughts on this one?

Seems like a pretty good deal for $219.95 given the specs.

Makita 18V Lithium Ion 2pc Combo Kit [MAK-LCT200] - $219.95 : KMS Tools & Equipment from Vancouver BC, Largest selection of tools in Canada (http://www.kmstools.com/makita-18v-lithium-ion-2pc-combo-kit-62179)

[Hondaracer]

I got that same makita combo for $189 a while back, it's awesome great batteries and mine has seen heavy use so far, very happy with it
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[SkunkWorks]

Awesome, thanks. Any idea if there will be any major sales for tools in the next little while? It's going to be a Christmas gift so there's no rush to get one, yet.

[fliptuner]

Best place to get replacement Dewalt 18V batteries?

[Hondaracer]

eBay, they are like half price than anywhere locally
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[Hondaracer]

Awesome, thanks. Any idea if there will be any major sales for tools in the next little while? It's going to be a Christmas gift so there's no rush to get one, yet.

If you can you might as well wait cause for a long time that se set was $200
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[Szeto]

KMS tools or Summit Tools are good places to shop for your power tools...etc

[Soundy]

Search for deals in Toronto - RedFlagDeals.com (http://www.redflagdeals.com/search/#!/q=cordless%20drill)

[Soundy]

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[E60_M5]

Festool brushless drills. German made.

[SkunkWorks]

Are there any differences in quality between these 2? I read through this thread but they seem pretty much identical... And does the HD-bought vs. KMS/Summit-bought really vary in quality?

These are both 18V lithium-ion drill/impact combos. Going to see light use at home realistically minus the auto projects.

Milwaukee | M18™ Cordless LITHIUM-ION 2-Tool Combo Kit | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/m18-cordless-lithium-ion-2-tool-combo-kit/958845)
Makita | LXT 2-Piece Impact Driver and Driver Drill Combo Kit | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/lxt-2-piece-impact-driver-and-driver-drill-combo-kit/822375)

[MG1]

Best place to get replacement Dewalt 18V batteries?

I think Battery World, or whatever they are called (on Boundary close to freeway) remans batteries. You take yours in and they put new cells in. Also, there's that Dewalt repair depot on Boundary and 1st Avenue.

As mentioned by others, eBay has tonnes of reman batteries for cheap.

[finbar]

Are there any differences in quality between these 2?



I've used the Makita, excellent. Compact and light, good for tight spaces.
And the batteries charge up fast, 15 mins.

I've not used the Milwaukee.

Go man handle them.

[see.lai]

I'm also looking into getting a drill as well. I will be using it for mainly automotive related jobs, like tire repairs to start, (lube tech , lol)

Any suggestions?

[Ford_Fanatic]

Look for a good deal on the 18v Milwaukee FUEL brushless drill/impact set. I use them daily (electrician) and they are BEASTLY. A little heavier than the Makita brushless drills but so so much more powerful. Plus they have 4 amp batteries where as the Makitas only come with 3 amp ones.

[Matlock]

I am an electrician too.
Didn't like my co-worker's brushless Makita drill.
I got the new big cordless 18v Makita drill. It's a lot heavier than my old one, but it has pretty powerful torque. In wood frame houses I use long 1', 2', or bigger drill bits and the extra torque really helps.

Otherwise, cordless impact is good. But I didn't care for the brushless "drills".

[MG1]

I love Milwaukee stuff. I have both the 18 volt and now the 12 volt brushless fuel stuff. The cordless circular saw..... wow!

And, the portable metal bandsaw is out of this world.

[Hondaracer]

cordless skill saws are like the most pointless tool i've ever seen lol

maybe if your cutting vinyl siding or 1X4's, anything else its useless and just murders batteries lol

[yray]

any recommendations for a good drill bit set?

[Jas29]

Best place to get replacement Dewalt 18V batteries?

I would try rebuilding it myself using NiCd Sub C 2200mAh Batteries you would need 15 to replace all of them if you have two batteries that have crapped out you can combine the batteries to make 1 good battery

Cordless Drill Battery Pack Rebuild for $20 or Repair for $0 - YouTube

[Hondaracer]

any recommendations for a good drill bit set?

ive got this one just for casual use, great to carry around etc.

Makita 99pc Drill/Driver/Impact Bit Set [MAK-P90102] - $69.95 : KMS Tools & Equipment from Vancouver BC, Largest selection of tools in Canada (http://www.kmstools.com/makita-99pc-drill-driver-impact-bit-set-12764)

whats kind of weird though is it doesnt have any flat head bits, i'm assuming since it's for an "impact" you never really use the flat head but would have been nice to have

[saveth]

If you buy rigid products make sure you register them with rigid so you don't get screwed over with there lifetime warranty.
The next thing on my list is a cordless reciprocating saw, but Ive never seen a rigid one on sale.

[MG1]

cordless skill saws are like the most pointless tool i've ever seen lol

maybe if your cutting vinyl siding or 1X4's, anything else its useless and just murders batteries lol

Have you tried the Milwaukee?

Don't comment until you've tried it. I had doubts, too but I was very impressed.

http://www.bestchoicereviews.org/tools/cordless/saws/top10-best-cordless-circular-saws/


Milwaukee M18 Cordless Circular Saw 2630-22 Review - YouTube

One thing I try to do is not live in the past. Technology changes rapidly and new things hit the market. Cordless tools are becoming the norm.

[MG1]

If you buy rigid products make sure you register them with rigid so you don't get screwed over with there lifetime warranty.
The next thing on my list is a cordless reciprocating saw, but Ive never seen a rigid one on sale.

Yes, I have registered all my Ridgid tools. Portable table saw, compound mitre saw, oscillating belt/spindle sander (most useful tool in my collection) https://www.ridgid.com/ca/en/oscillating-edge-belt-spindle-sander and my drill /driver kit and three batteries.

Ridgid shop vacs are very nice. I abuse the shit out of mine and it keeps on ticking.

[mickz]

Are there any differences in quality between these 2? I read through this thread but they seem pretty much identical... And does the HD-bought vs. KMS/Summit-bought really vary in quality?

These are both 18V lithium-ion drill/impact combos. Going to see light use at home realistically minus the auto projects.

Milwaukee | M18™ Cordless LITHIUM-ION 2-Tool Combo Kit | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/m18-cordless-lithium-ion-2-tool-combo-kit/958845)
Makita | LXT 2-Piece Impact Driver and Driver Drill Combo Kit | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/lxt-2-piece-impact-driver-and-driver-drill-combo-kit/822375)

I've got that Milwaukee set and I would not recommend it.

In the first month of owning it I had to go back to Home Depot and replace the battery, twice. The batteries have issues holding a charge and it seems like a pretty common problem amongst these Milwaukee 18V.

The first battery I brought back would just blink red when I charged it. The second one's battery indicator wouldn't work at all.

[snowball]

I also have that Milwaukee set, I love mine, never had any problems.

[MG1]

Between work and home I have used over a dozen 18 volt Milwaukee batteries with absolutely no problems whatsoever, so I wouldn't say it is a common issue. I have Ridgid tools too simply because of the lifetime warranty on their batteries. Not sure how that's going to pan out when the batteries do eventually die out, but I'll find out the hard way, I guess.
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[Soundy]

^Deal on at HD now, two 2.0Ah Ridgid batteries for $99 (normally $79 each).

[dn53]

I bought the Milwaukee set from kms which came with a cordless drill, 3/8 impact, and flashlight (all running on the 18v) and the battery life is great. I noticed those things charge really fast. Twenty minutes and I'm almost fully charged up so it's a big plus. The flashlight from Milwaukee is not shock proof at all so be careful.. Even a small drop and the bulb is done. I've gone through four bulbs in the past year and I just stopped giving a damn about it
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[Speed2K]

Awesome, thanks. Any idea if there will be any major sales for tools in the next little while? It's going to be a Christmas gift so there's no rush to get one, yet.

Keep an eye out for Rona's % off sale and take it to HD; they'll take the same discount off their prices as well! I did this a couple of weeks ago (15% off) at HD Richmond.

[mickz]

Sounds like I just got unlucky with my batteries then. But after Googling my problem it doesn't seem like there were many others with dead batteries. I'm not the type to leave my tools in the rain or constantly dropping it either.

[SpartanAir]

I have a 5 piece Mikita set; hands down the best I've used. Don't like the feel of Milwaukee or Dewalt in comparison. Mikita is lightweight, and at Summit you can buy individual tools without batteries, they have all kinds ie cordless grinder, recip saw etc.

[MG1]

^ it's called "tool only" (pretty original term) and every manufacturer does this.

Anyway, who can't use more batteries? As for contractor bags - good idea. I can't stand them blow molded or hard cases for tools. It's like showing up to school with a fricken lunch box, LOL. Real kids wouldn't be caught dead with one of those, no matter how cool the picture is on the lid.

Right up there with murses or a dude carrying a coin purse. So girly.......... maybe that's why real men are so rare these days. Hee hee.

I like my Milwaukee and Ridgid tools...... nice feel and have good weight to them. Not dainty like a Makita..... j/k.

[Speed2K]

For the guys that don't use drills too often, this Ryobi (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ryobi-18v-lithium-ion-drill-driver-kit/858005) is a good price from HD for Black Friday. $49

[Soundy]

For the guys that don't use drills too often, this Ryobi (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ryobi-18v-lithium-ion-drill-driver-kit/858005) is a good price from HD for Black Friday. $49

My co-worker got one of the seven-tool Ryobi kits a few years ago, and loves it. He uses it quite a bit at work and at home, and while it generally doesn't keep up with my Milwaukee and Ridgid stuff, he got a GREAT price on it... it originally came with the ONE+ NiCad batteries, but the cool thing is, he can also use all the newer Lithium batteries in the ONE+ system (and save the NiCads for things like the radio)... and Ryobi has a HUGE line-up of tools that use the same battery, definitely more selection than any one of the other major brands (Makita, DeWalt, Ridgid, Milwaukee). They also have the only six-slot battery charger I've seen.

If you're just looking for something to use around the house for smaller projects, there's nothing wrong with getting in the Ryobi ONE+ system.

[Jas29]

+1 to the ryobi system have the drill and impact driver both work great and the battery has never died on me while doing a job
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[SkunkWorks]

Thanks everyone for their thoughts. Ended up picking this set from HD. For the light occasional use it'll get, it was $174 and the lifetime guarantee won out in the end.

RIDGID | 18V Compact Drill and Impact Driver Combo with Radio | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/18v-compact-drill-and-impact-driver-combo-with-radio/834289)

[Jas29]

I heard some where that the life time warrarnty is only on the batteries that came with the tools. Not sure if this is 100% true
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[SkunkWorks]

I heard some where that the life time warrarnty is only on the batteries that came with the tools. Not sure if this is 100% true
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Nope, copied from their site:

What is Covered? (applies to the 3-Year Limited Warranty, the Lifetime Service Agreement, and the Recon Limited Warranty)

The 3 Year Limited Warranty, The Recon Limited Warranty and the Lifetime Service Agreement covers all worn parts in properly maintained tools. This includes normal wear items such as brushes, chucks, motors, switches, gears and even cordless batteries in your qualifying RIDGID® Brand hand held and stationary power tools. These programs also cover replacement rings, driver blades and bumpers on RIDGID® Brand pneumatic tools. This service coverage does not apply to other ineligible RIDGID® Brand products.

[saveth]

Everything in that rigid kit has a lifetime warranty but the radio. I know this because I own the exact same kit.
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[Soundy]

I'm quite liking all my Ridgid tools, but there are a couple things I regret about getting into this system, like...

The big jobsite radio seems to be the ONLY one (at least among the brands that HD carries) that DOESN'T also function as a charger... all the others can charge batteries when they're plugged in.

They don't have a battery powered vacuum... my buddy has the dustbuster AND cannister vac for his Ryobi set, and the cannister has plenty of juice to suck a string through a conduit, and for basic jobsite cleanup.

They don't sell any of the multi-tool power units without the multi-tool head. I got the 12V unit and the 18V unit; they also make AC-powered and air-powered drive units, and every one of them is ONLY available with the multi-tool head (meaning I have two of those now). I also have all the other attachments that fit these (even the nailer head, which was on for $12)... I'd like to grab the air version, but I don't need yet another fucking multi-tool.

Like I say, that's the one big plus to the Ryobi system: they have the widest variety of tools by far in their ONE+ lineup, and the fact that you can use NiCad and Lithium batteries interchangeably means you can keep some low-cost batteries around for those low-draw uses (flashlights, radios, etc.) while keeping the good ones charged for the bigger jobs.

[dark0821]

Hey guys, sorry about the bump of a old thread. I am a total noob at drills, but my business has task me to find a

Cordless Hammer drill with a HEPA Vacuum Attachment as it will be used inside hospitals.
It is going in to concrete and we would require batteries that can drill holes for 80 picture frames at 4 holes per frame.

I am looking @
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/15-16-inch-cordless-rotary-hammer-with-brushless-motor/842331

Thanks in advance!

Cheers, if there is any sales going on right now, that would be cool!

[Hondaracer]

Makita actually makes decent hammer drills and that's the first time I've heard of that kind of application

Check out Hilti as well, way more $$$ but worth it IMO
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[Jas29]

Hey guys, sorry about the bump of a old thread. I am a total noob at drills, but my business has task me to find a

Cordless Hammer drill with a HEPA Vacuum Attachment as it will be used inside hospitals.
It is going in to concrete and we would require batteries that can drill holes for 80 picture frames at 4 holes per frame.

I am looking @
Makita | 15/16 inch Cordless Rotary Hammer with Brushless Motor | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/15-16-inch-cordless-rotary-hammer-with-brushless-motor/842331)

Thanks in advance!

Cheers, if there is any sales going on right now, that would be cool!

You might have better luck posting at The Garage Journal (http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/)

[LYC]

Do you really need a cordless hammer drill? They usually lack in power compared to a corded version and they tend to burn out really quick. I would recommend a Hilti hammer drill if you can afford it. Other wise the Bosch Bulldog Hammer drill is a cheaper alternative. I'm a local contractor and I use the Hilti one all the time.

Cant really help you with the vacuum attachment though. The only thing I can suggest is getting another guy to hold a shop vac hose up right near the drill bit. It should suck up a majority of the dust.

[Hondaracer]

Oh cordless? :S yea I dunno about that didn't even see that
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[Speed2K]

Hey guys, sorry about the bump of a old thread. I am a total noob at drills, but my business has task me to find a

Cordless Hammer drill with a HEPA Vacuum Attachment as it will be used inside hospitals.
It is going in to concrete and we would require batteries that can drill holes for 80 picture frames at 4 holes per frame.

I am looking @
Makita | 15/16 inch Cordless Rotary Hammer with Brushless Motor | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/15-16-inch-cordless-rotary-hammer-with-brushless-motor/842331)

Thanks in advance!

Cheers, if there is any sales going on right now, that would be cool!

Home Depot's tool sale starts this tomorrow, great deals to be had!

From RFD:

In-store coupon gives instant discount.

SPEND________________SAVE

$149 - $299_____________$25
$300 - $599_____________$50
$600 - $999_____________$125
$1000 - $1499___________$200
$1500+_________________$300

Good on single or combined purchase of:

portable power tools
compressors
bench & stationary tools
wet/dry vacs
air tools
generators
heated jackets

So for the drill in your link, you would save $125 + tax!

[dark0821]

Thanks for the replies guys, really appreciated.

The cordless is a requirement by the hospital as they said that wires are a tripping hazard. and the Vacuum must be a Hepa Vac... sigh, blame the facilities engineer at Royal Columbia Hospital.

I mean i understand his concerns, but shit son lol.... if this wasn't like a 60,000+ contract for all hospitals in the lower mainland, my boss would probably say fuck it lol

I will look into the sale tmrw... and keep you guys posted what I end up getting. I dunno if there is a way around the "tripping" hazard.... because you guys are right, corded ones are stronger and cheaper...

[Soundy]

I've never seen a hammer drill with a vac attachment, but I did build a custom vac pickup for drilling into drywall... similar design would probably work for you. I know there are units out there on the market, basically a shroud with the vac port, that you run the bit through.

HEPA vac is easy, just pick up any cannister vac and put a HEPA filter in it - HD has them for their RIDGID vacs.

But the others are right, cordless won't be nearly as efficient - best bet is to look at something like the DeWalt 24V or Milwaukee 28V stuff, or the HILTI (they make cordless tools as well). Definitely get something with an SDS chuck, as that goes a LOT faster than the standard "chatter" action on smaller drills.

Something like this, maybe: Milwaukee | M28 Cordless Compact 1" SDS Rotary Hammer | Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/m28-cordless-compact-1-sds-rotary-hammer/985383)

Of course, that Makita you linked to look pretty skookum too... what size holes are you drilling for these pictures?

[Jas29]

Here are 2 other options the milwaukee is 12 volts and the dewalt is 36 volts

12-Volt Hammervac Universal Dust Extractor Kit | Milwaukee Tool (http://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/cordless/2306-22)
This 1 is universal and will fit on any drill at least according to the video in the link


Dewalt DC233KLDH 36V Cordless NANO Li-Ion 1 in. SDS Rotary Hammer Kit and Dust Extraction System with HEPA Filter (http://www.cpopowertools.com/dewalt-dc233kldh-36v-cordless-nano-li-ion-1-in--sds-rotary-hammer-kit-and-dust-extraction-system-with-hepa-filter/dewndc233kldh,default,pd.html)

EDIT:
From the Garagejournal forum

I have a DeWalt DC233 36V rotary hammer for which I recently picked up a D25302DH HEPA dust extractor that fits on board. It's a nice setup which works quite well. It's available as a complete kit these days (DC233KLDH), but not cheap. Milwaukee just came up with an M12 powered add-on for any rotary hammer they call the 2306-22 M12 Hammervac. This also fits completely onboard an existing corded or cordless rotary hammer. Like anything safety and HEPA, it's not cheap either. There are also fittings to install the extractor head into various hammers and these connect to a separate vacuum, but now you have a hose and separate vac to contend with.

I recommend the DeWalt setup, if you can handle the price. If you already have a cordless rotary hammer, get the Milwaukee.

[B!tch]

Hi guys, bumping an old thread as my cordless set from the early 90's has finally called it quits. (They dont make the batteries anymore)

I need something for around the house use and am wondering if Ryobi is still the popular choice? Being Father's Day weekend there are many sales and brands to choose from.

[Manic!]

Hi guys, bumping an old thread as my cordless set from the early 90's has finally called it quits. (They dont make the batteries anymore)

I need something for around the house use and am wondering if Ryobi is still the popular choice? Being Father's Day weekend there are many sales and brands to choose from.

Ryobi is the way to go. Tons of tools that use the same battery. They also have many tools other companies don't offer. The best part is they always go on sale.

[tiger_handheld]

should update. I bought a ryobi drill & driver combo from when this thread was created and still going strong. got it on combo sale at home depot for $80 + tax.

[Hondaracer]

Makitas new brushless offerings look pretty bad ass, all black errthang

[Ferra]

got this milwaukee set about year ago for $99
https://www.homedepot.ca/product/milwaukee-tool-m12-12v-lithium-ion-cordless-drill-driver-impact-driver-combo-kit-2-tool-with-2-1-5ah-batteries-charger-tool-bag/1000672700

I have a few other drills (18v & 20v) at home, but this is the one I usually end up using most of the times because it is light and compact, and enough power for 99% of the job.

It sucks working with a big drill that weight 5lb
The only times I use the 18v drill is doing a deck stairs where I need to put put of 3/8 & 1/2" lag into solid wood.

[snowball]

The resurgence of this thread just made me buy a 2-pack of Milwaukee M18 5.0Ah batteries, sick price right now at home depot for $160. KMS and others are having sales for $180 but HD always silently lowers their price to compete without advertising it.

[Hondaracer]

5.0ah+ is the way to go now. I have one 5.0 and 4 3.0 Makita batteries and there is a substantial difference in batt life

[Badhobz]

Everytime I wanna use my drill it's always outta juice. Then I just end up grabbing a screwdriver and doing it by hand.

[320icar]

Last year I bought a Rhyobi drill and 1/4” bit driver combo (with battery and charged) and added a 1/2” impact gun and an extra battery. Can’t remember, it was cheap. All 3 products have earned their keep, and for a sometimes weekend warrior they’re totally worth the price.

Honestly, I’ve watched Mighty Car Mods use them for the last decade (well before their sponsorship) and figured it’s cheap, and clearly good enough for them. And they’re great

[fliptuner]

The resurgence of this thread just made me buy a 2-pack of Milwaukee M18 5.0Ah batteries, sick price right now at home depot for $160. KMS and others are having sales for $180 but HD always silently lowers their price to compete without advertising it.

Kms will beat advertised HD prices, up to their cost. I prefer KMS customer service as well.

[MG1]

More often than not, KMS cannot match or beat prices. They say it's below their cost.

[fliptuner]

More often than not, KMS cannot match or beat prices. They say it's below their cost.

They couldn't beat HD's price on this kit but they matched it and upgraded the batteries from 3 to 5ah batteries. Works for me.

https://m.kmstools.com/milwaukee-m18-6-tool-hammer-drill-impact-driver-sawzall-circular-saw-grinder-worklight-combo-kit-132791

[Speed2K]

Ryobi is the way to go. Tons of tools that use the same battery. They also have many tools other companies don't offer. The best part is they always go on sale.

I'm using Ryobi stuff, I love it! Ryobi days are on right now: http://online.fliphtml5.com/ihvop/iooc/#p=1

There's a huge thread on RFD as well!

[roastpuff]

I wish Bosch had more selection in North America for their tools. They have cool stuff in Europe/Asia that doesn't come over.

Ryobi... my parents have a set from HD. It's heavy, unbalanced, not very ergonomic - but it was cheap so there's that I guess.

[oldsnail]

crafsman, black and decker, dewalt are all owned by Stanley.

try to find their tent sales, super cheap.

IE. a dewalt 20V 2A battery is $30.. i use it to charge my cell phone lol

[Great68]

I swear by my 20V DeWalt Brushless combo.
5 years on, built dozens of projects around my house, thousands of screws and they still work like new.

[Hondaracer]

I find the standard dewalt offerings feel much cheaper than they did prior to the black and decker acquisition

[oldsnail]

I find the standard dewalt offerings feel much cheaper than they did prior to the black and decker acquisition

Tool prices will go up. they lay'ed off alot of staff this year.. well, guess where is steel from. ?

[DavidNguyen]

The resurgence of this thread just made me buy a 2-pack of Milwaukee M18 5.0Ah batteries, sick price right now at home depot for $160. KMS and others are having sales for $180 but HD always silently lowers their price to compete without advertising it.


I use everything Milwaukee Fuel. These last long and warantee is good . But im poor now

[Manic!]

I find the standard dewalt offerings feel much cheaper than they did prior to the black and decker acquisition

How old are you?

[GLOW]

I'm using Ryobi stuff, I love it! Ryobi days are on right now: http://online.fliphtml5.com/ihvop/iooc/#p=1

There's a huge thread on RFD as well!

thanks a lot, i just bought a portable 18V+/corded portable fan i didn't really need :lol

[Manic!]

thanks a lot, i just bought a portable 18V+/corded portable fan i didn't really need :lol

I just ordered the same one yesterday. Sitting at the ferry terminal for 4 hours on Friday was just to much.

[AzNightmare]

Everytime I wanna use my drill it's always outta juice. Then I just end up grabbing a screwdriver and doing it by hand.

lol, surprisingly, that's actually never happened to me before, even though that was my major concern prior to switching to cordless tools.

But over time, I found combo pack deals that included batteries and chargers.
I now have 2 chargers and 3 batteries. Really can't go wrong here and it'll only get better as I collect more batteries over time.

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Whichever brand you guys end up going with, prepare to stick with that brand if you're going all cordless. It'll make life easier with having a lot of the right batteries.

[Badhobz]

lol, surprisingly, that's actually never happened to me before, even though that was my major concern prior to switching to cordless tools.

But over time, I found combo pack deals that included batteries and chargers.
I now have 2 chargers and 3 batteries. Really can't go wrong here and it'll only get better as I collect more batteries over time.

---

Whichever brand you guys end up going with, prepare to stick with that brand if you're going all cordless. It'll make life easier with having a lot of the right batteries.

seriously? doesnt it lose its charge after a while? i kept my black and decker drill/ryobie drill/makita drill in the garage and all 3 of these POS lose their charge. The most usable drill i ended up having is the one from friggin IKEA for 27 dollars (that one has a cord so its just plug and play).

https://www.ikea.com/ca/en/p/fixa-screwdriver-drill-lithium-ion-00196101/
https://www.ikea.com/PIAimages/0711979_PE728606_S5.JPG?f=m

[Mr.Money]

i hear you don't even need the big volts unless you're making a deck drilling on 4 inches of wood.

[Great68]

seriously? doesnt it lose its charge after a while? i kept my black and decker drill/ryobie drill/makita drill in the garage and all 3 of these POS lose their charge.

Probably models with the old NiCd batteries. NiCd batteries have terrible self-discharge (10% a month)

The lithiums (like in your IKEA drill, and new tools) have very little self-discharge (like .5% a month)

[Hondaracer]

i hear you don't even need the big volts unless you're making a deck drilling on 4 inches of wood.

at the same time, there is no reason to buy a 12V kit when the 18/20V kits are slightly more (and in some cases, less)

IMO the 12V kits are hugely underpowered even for basic drilling/driving

[Great68]

Agreed.

However I keep a Milwaukee M12 1/4" screwdriver in the house and it's more than adequate for general household stuff, ie: Putting in drywall anchors, assembling IKEA furniture, taking appliances/electronics apart to be fixed (the 20V impact would be total overkill)

[roastpuff]

at the same time, there is no reason to buy a 12V kit when the 18/20V kits are slightly more (and in some cases, less)

IMO the 12V kits are hugely underpowered even for basic drilling/driving

Smaller size - sometimes I wish I could get my driver or drill into some tight spots to do the driving for me, instead of using a ratchet. A

The M12 Fuel has about the same power as a regular 18V drill or driver. Same with the DeWalt XR stuff, etc. A good 12V kit is just fine.

[Eff-1]

seriously? doesnt it lose its charge after a while? i kept my black and decker drill/ryobie drill/makita drill in the garage and all 3 of these POS lose their charge. The most usable drill i ended up having is the one from friggin IKEA for 27 dollars (that one has a cord so its just plug and play).

https://www.ikea.com/ca/en/p/fixa-screwdriver-drill-lithium-ion-00196101/
https://www.ikea.com/PIAimages/0711979_PE728606_S5.JPG?f=m

I have that same one. We use it around the house all the time. I was expecting garbage performance, but I was mistaken.

[Great68]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4RPN7WM4gI

[Hondaracer]

Smaller size - sometimes I wish I could get my driver or drill into some tight spots to do the driving for me, instead of using a ratchet. A

The M12 Fuel has about the same power as a regular 18V drill or driver. Same with the DeWalt XR stuff, etc. A good 12V kit is just fine.

I have the M12 fuel drill/driver combo kit at work, it’s garbage imo. But hey that’s just me comparing it to the contractor grade Makita Kit I use at home

In terms of tight spaces this solves that problem 90% of the time:

https://images.app.goo.gl/LcuPM4sQb76YDvr59

[underscore]

Smaller size - sometimes I wish I could get my driver or drill into some tight spots to do the driving for me, instead of using a ratchet. A

The M12 Fuel has about the same power as a regular 18V drill or driver. Same with the DeWalt XR stuff, etc. A good 12V kit is just fine.

I had to get one of these to punch some holes in the frame of my Jeep, I wish I knew about them ages ago. For a whopping $20 it's well worth it for the time where the whole drill is a tight fit or won't let you get the correct angle on something.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/318uWkoWMKL._SX466_.jpg

Now my only issue is even though I have 5 cordless drills with a total of 6 batteries, every single one of them always seems to be dead or nearly dead. Punching 3 of the holes went through 2 drills and 3 batteries. I've got a big 120V Makita concrete drill that dims the lights when you use it but that seems like a shortcut to the emergency room with the 90* adapter attached lol.

[Hondaracer]

Yea that right angle adapter is what I tried to post in the pic above

They are awesome. In a pinch you can actually use drill bits which have the chuck end on them as well for stuff like drilling inside walls etc. it’s pushing it a little with the amount of torque required but it works

[Great68]

Have one of those as well, it definitely has bailed me out of some tight spots.

[underscore]

Yea that right angle adapter is what I tried to post in the pic above

They are awesome. In a pinch you can actually use drill bits which have the chuck end on them as well for stuff like drilling inside walls etc. it’s pushing it a little with the amount of torque required but it works

That's what I've been using on my Jeep, stepper bits with the hex chuck end. Two of the holes were through a part of the frame where the steel is doubled up so it's decently thick and this handled it no problem. We'll see if it survives the abuse of punching the rest of the holes but if it dies I'll buy another. I wouldn't fault it for failing when being used way beyond what it's designed for.

[Hondaracer]

Yea I broke one already drilling however it has seen heavy use prior to breaking

[AzNightmare]

seriously? doesnt it lose its charge after a while? i kept my black and decker drill/ryobie drill/makita drill in the garage and all 3 of these POS lose their charge. The most usable drill i ended up having is the one from friggin IKEA for 27 dollars (that one has a cord so its just plug and play).


Yeah, it was ok for me. I'm using Ryobi, but I'm sure all the new lithium batteries are going to be more or less the same and more efficient.

Mind you, I pretty much just use my drill in the garage for removing bolts on my car and lugs (after i loosen them with a breaker bar), and I'm only pressing on the trigger for a couple seconds at a time, I really don't use that much power. Even on low charge, it'll hold up to do the job.

On the other hand, last month, I had to use my yard trimmer, something that requires constant power, and the battery that I keep year round in the garage went dead in about 5 minutes, lol. My 2 backup batteries that I leave in a storage bag also lost charge and lasted maybe 5 mins each. So a learning experience for myself, charge up all my batteries if I'm planning to do yard trimming, or any other task that requires the power to be run continuously.

[MG1]

Oh, I’m not the only one to have issues with the Ryobi trimmer, then. I took it to the cemetery to clean up around the headstone/markers. I go to about a dozen plots to pay my respects. I’d be lucky to get 4, maybe 5 done before having to change out batteries. I got me a Milwaukee trimmer and holy Hannah, did all 13 with indicator down to 3 out of four bars. I was so happy, I wanted to go over to mama aquilini’s gravesite and trim their mini garden at Mountainview. To be fair, the batteries I had for the Ryobi were older technology.

BTW, the Milwaukee trimmer was on super clearance at the beginning of the year at Home Depot. It’s the Lexington Steele of trimmers. The newer model comes in two parts where the end is interchangeable. I can barely get the trimmer into the car, but good thing is, the head is far enough away that I don’t get crap all over my shoes and pant legs.

[Manic!]

Oh, I’m not the only one to have issues with the Ryobi trimmer, then. I took it to the cemetery to clean up around the headstone/markers. I go to about a dozen plots to pay my respects. I’d be lucky to get 4, maybe 5 done before having to change out batteries. I got me a Milwaukee trimmer and holy Hannah, did all 13 with indicator down to 3 out of four bars. I was so happy, I wanted to go over to mama aquilini’s gravesite and trim their mini garden at Mountainview. To be fair, the batteries I had for the Ryobi were older technology.

BTW, the Milwaukee trimmer was on super clearance at the beginning of the year. It’s the Lexington Steele of trimmers. The newer model comes in two parts where the end is interchangeable. I can barely get the trimmer into the car, but good thing is, the head is far enough away that I don’t get crap all over my shoes and pant legs.



Get the larger batteries for the Ryobi then you wont have that problem.

I want to get this next but they don't sell it in Canada.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-150-Watt-Powered-Inverter-Generator-for-18-Volt-Battery-RYi150BG/308460871?keyword=ryobi+18+volt+inverter&semanticToken=21300001011_20190619771274_p4rj+2130 0001011+%3E++st%3A%7Bryobi+18+volt+inverter%7D%3As t+cnn%3A%7B0%3A0%7D+cnr%3A%7B7%3A0%7D+f%3A%7Bb%7D+ cnv%3A%7B3%3A0%7D+vc%3A%7B1%7D+oos%3A%7B0%3A1%7D+b r%3A%7Bryobi%7D%3Abr+pt%3A%7Binverter%7D%3Apt+rt%3 A%7B18-v%7D%3Art+dln%3A%7B575061%7D+qu%3A%7Bryobi+18+volt +inverter%7D%3Aqu

https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/b3e6bb87-e14a-4430-8792-c5e7572f6b2b/svn/ryobi-inverter-generators-ryi150bg-64_1000.jpg

[underscore]

^ order it off the US site and get it shipped to the border the next time you're coming to the mainland, or Amazon.com has it for $10 more and will ship to Canada https://www.amazon.com/150-Watt-Inverter-Generator-RYi150BG-Included/dp/B07S2TLY1J/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=RYi150BG&qid=1560977906&s=gateway&sr=8-1