[dygital]

Hey everyone! I'm looking to take a look at the new 328/335 or an s4, so does anyone know good dealers? I've read a few threads and basically they say to stay away from Brian Jessel and go to northshore or the bmw store downtown?

I went to the BJ near boundary... was ignored :( and I went to the audi in richmond auto mall and i was also ignored :(.

So if anyone could give me some guidance, that'd be great! thanks

[Shorn]

Autowest is not bad. Cambie and shell in Richmond.

[Harvey Specter]

Yup, talk to Ray @ autowest, he'll give you a good deal. Openroad Audi is also good to deal with.

[kkttsang]

you can try emailing them first to set up an appointment, i find that helps more then just walking into the store. If you call or email them first, you are more of a potential buyer then just a walk in.

[hongy]

Autowest BMW is generally quite well, and I'd recommend Openroad audi, if not then Capilano. Richmond Audi is shit except for the receptionist. :ifyouknow:

[fetched]

BMW: BMW Store on Burrard

AUDI: Anything but Richmond Audi

[Roach]

You could try out BMW Langley. Not sure where you live, but the new facility is worth the drive.

Kev

[tofu1413]

Autowest BMW is generally quite well, and I'd recommend Openroad audi, if not then Capilano. Richmond Audi is shit except for the receptionist. :ifyouknow:

a girl i dated works there for reception...... :pokerface:

[Domani]

usually it's the sales rep that makes or breaks the reputation of a car dealership. That said, there are always good/bad sales rep at every dealership.

I've had nothing but great experiences at Brian Jessel, bought two cars there and did some services. Had my car in at Autowest once for service, they ripped the carpet lining on my trunk.

[pastarocket]

+1 for the BMW Store on Burrard. A friend bought his 328i from that dealership.

[hongy]

a girl i dated works there for reception...... :pokerface:

:fullofwin: If same girl...Damn......

[tofu1413]

wonder if talking about same girl....... :pokerface:

[badboy]

+1 for Langley cause i live there lol. But yeah the whole facility is brand new and they have the mini dealership combined too

[FOB Mainlander]

Bought cars from The BMW Store and Capilano Audi before. Stay away from Brian Jessel BMW and Audi of Richmond!

[blee123]

a girl i dated works there for reception...... :pokerface:

LOL

[tofu1413]

oh high school... :pokerface:

[Lomac]

Openroad is good, and Capilano is a decent second choice.

The problem with walking into places like BJ and Richmond, you need to look the part. If you're just a young kid wandering around the lot, chances are they'll just ignore you. You need to go up to reception and ask to talk to someone.

[Harvey Specter]

I got my 750i a few weeks ago from BJ and the sales guy (khan) was very helpful and gave me a smoking deal. My Audi A5 is from Openroad Audi and the guy I deal with their is Josh, he's young and he'll workout a good deal for you. The Richmond Audi dealership sucks; I was looking at a Q7 and the sales guy kept mentioning the price like I couldn't read and afford it. When I asked him about the lease and finance rates he said "I can't remember them because most people pay cash", sure bud.

Autowest is also on the top of my list of dealers, my E92 was from there. I have to say their service dept. probably the best out of all the BMW dealers. My first BMW was from BMW store but I haven't dealt with them for years but my experience with their service dept. was excellent as well.

[Engotski]

Ask for Kris Ong at BMW langley. Tell him Glen sent you! You wont be disappointed from service/pricing :)

[dygital]

Thanks everyone! I guess I'll head to the bmw store and pray that there's an m sport for me to look at haha

[Teknique]

Avoid Maxim from the Richmond Automall Audi. He BS'd me quite a bit when I was looking for a new car. I mentioned to my girlfriend Audi maintenance being fairly expensive and he told my girlfriend that wasn't true, the A4 maintenance costs were on par with a Toyota Highlander.

He compared a 4 dour sedan's maintenance costs with a freakin' Toyota SUVs! I went to the BMW Store instead and I'll never go back to that guy.

[PJ]

Looking at an A4/S4 for my next vehicle too. I've asked around and shopped around, and the results are pretty unanimous from everyone I ask, and what people here seem to be responding.

Autowest/Open Road are the ones you want to go to, and stay away from Richmond Audi/BMW. As a personal rule of thumb, I now don't even bother going to any of the Richmond dealerships anymore. They are all very judgemental and condescending.

Even at Acura, I was looking at a new TSX/TL, I asked about lease rates and the salesman was like "you don't need to lease an Acura, you should just buy it." Thanks, financial advisor..

[rawr]

I had a bad experience at Autowest. Looked around for a good 20 minutes, and nobody asked if we needed help. No hello, not even a glance.

[dygital]

Looking at an A4/S4 for my next vehicle too. I've asked around and shopped around, and the results are pretty unanimous from everyone I ask, and what people here seem to be responding.
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Hey PJ, could you give me some clarification on the S4? A salesmen told me the transmission is not dual clutch, but wikipedia says it is and the website says it is tiptronic (a quick google search shows that its dual clutch...)

and what made you decide on an A/S 4 over a 328/335i?

[hal0g0dv2]

I got my 750i a few weeks ago from BJ and the sales guy (khan) was very helpful and gave me a smoking deal. My Audi A5 is from Openroad Audi and the guy I deal with their is Josh, he's young and he'll workout a good deal for you. The Richmond Audi dealership sucks; I was looking at a Q7 and the sales guy kept mentioning the price like I couldn't read and afford it. When I asked him about the lease and finance rates he said "I can't remember them because most people pay cash", sure bud.

Autowest is also on the top of my list of dealers, my E92 was from there. I have to say their service dept. probably the best out of all the BMW dealers. My first BMW was from BMW store but I haven't dealt with them for years but my experience with their service dept. was excellent as well.

750i and a5 :ahwow:

[parm104]

I got my 750i a few weeks ago from BJ and the sales guy (khan) was very helpful and gave me a smoking deal. My Audi A5 is from Openroad Audi and the guy I deal with their is Josh, he's young and he'll workout a good deal for you. The Richmond Audi dealership sucks; I was looking at a Q7 and the sales guy kept mentioning the price like I couldn't read and afford it. When I asked him about the lease and finance rates he said "I can't remember them because most people pay cash", sure bud.

Autowest is also on the top of my list of dealers, my E92 was from there. I have to say their service dept. probably the best out of all the BMW dealers. My first BMW was from BMW store but I haven't dealt with them for years but my experience with their service dept. was excellent as well.

+1 for Josh and Open Road Audi's assistant sales manager. I would avoid Richmond at all costs. I go there for servicing only and the front desk girls.

If you're buying/leasing brand new, I would suggest Open Road over the other dealers. Josh knows his cars and is courteous.

[PJ]

Hey PJ, could you give me some clarification on the S4? A salesmen told me the transmission is not dual clutch, but wikipedia says it is and the website says it is tiptronic (a quick google search shows that its dual clutch...)

and what made you decide on an A/S 4 over a 328/335i?

From what I understand you can get the S4 as a 6-speed manual or 7-speed tiptronic. Not sure about the dual clutch thing. If I were to spring for the S, I was going to go for the auto, but I'm likely going to do the A4.

Between the Audi's and BMW's, it's just personal preference. You're already in German luxury league, so it's really up to your own tastes.

To be frank, I think the BMW's are all around better cars than Audis. Everything's very sturdy and reliable. But when I drive a 3-series, from the moment I sit inside, everything just seems very vanilla and bland. I've never been a huge fan of the 3-series' minimalist interior. The interior, the exterior, the whole package feels very.. meh. I mean everything's good, there's nothing wrong, but at the same time there's nothing that really stands out, and it just didn't excite me like the Audi did.

I prefer the Audi exterior, interior, and features in every way. Also, everything just feels a lot more.. edgy and sleek. Since I'm leasing, Audi's rates are a bit better than the BMW's, though this wasn't the deal breaker. Audi's 2.0T is known to have problems, but apparently in the newer generations, the problems seem to be minimal, no more than the 335i's common problems.

[dygital]

iirc, the rate for a4 was 1.9 and s4 is 2.9
bmw said 4.9 for the 2012 335i....

I didn't test drive the 3 series, so do you know how the steering is? The A/S 4's steering was a bit loose for my taste. I've driven my friends C350 and it didn't have the same feeling of looseness

[hongy]

iirc, the rate for a4 was 1.9 and s4 is 2.9
bmw said 4.9 for the 2012 335i....

I didn't test drive the 3 series, so do you know how the steering is? The A/S 4's steering was a bit loose for my taste. I've driven my friends C350 and it didn't have the same feeling of looseness

What did the s4 have? I tested all of these cars out prior to getting the s4, and have also tested multiple cars after getting the s4. C350/Is350 have the loosest steering of them all. Where as the 335i/s steering is quite stiff. The s4 (I have never driven an a4 before so I can't say much on them) is in between them all. If you opt for the Sport differential, or the Audi Drive Select, there is a noticeable difference in the steering. Comfort mode steering feels more loose then my corolla, where as sport mode is more akin to a BMW. There is a difference between an s4 and an s4 with the sport differential. May seem like a minor thing, but most people's gripes with the s4's steering/handling/etc. can be solved with the sport differential, and some better sway bars.

Like PJ I was swayed from getting a 335i because despite being a driver's car, bmw 3 series felt boring to drive. Sure the steering is nice when doing fast turns/tracking, but gets in the way of normal everyday driving. Exterior looked bland, interior was worse then the competition .by a long shot ( Personal opinion) And for the price I was paying it felt like I was getting less- Blind spot detectors, backup camera, etc.

HOWEVER these are all based on my 2010 S4 versus the old e92 335i/s, and pre 2012 c-class benz.

Also as other's have mentioned, Josh at Open Road is probably the only person I'd talk to in the Openroad audi sales department.

[lexluthor09]

Hey PJ, could you give me some clarification on the S4? A salesmen told me the transmission is not dual clutch, but wikipedia says it is and the website says it is tiptronic (a quick google search shows that its dual clutch...)

and what made you decide on an A/S 4 over a 328/335i?

s4 come with DSG -> dual clutch =)

[skylinergtr]

for BMW:

The BMW Store. I recommend to talk to Neil Shah.

good luck!

[blum2001]

another +1 for The BMW Store. Had no problems with my sale.