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: Tropicana OJ not so 100% Natural after all?


StylinRed
05-31-2012, 04:13 PM
just saw this on CBC (well on right now)


Tropicana latest target of ‘all natural’ claims

WASHINGTON Orange juice maker Tropicana markets its brand as fresh from the grove, but a series of lawsuits across the U.S. claim the company’s juice is so heavily processed it shouldn’t be called “natural.”

In approximately 20 lawsuits, lawyers claim the company adds chemically engineered “flavour packs” to its juice, making it taste the same year-round. On Thursday, lawyers came together in Washington to argue before a panel of judges about where the lawsuits should be heard as a group.

Tropicana declined to comment but said in a statement that it is committed to full compliance with labeling laws and to producing “great-tasting 100 per cent orange juice.”

The orange juice lawsuits are just the latest disputes over “all natural” claims. Over the past several years, a number of major national brands have been attacked for what consumers have called deceptive labeling. Tostitos, SunChips, Snapple and Ben & Jerry’s ice cream have all faced similar attacks.

The lawsuits have become common enough that the Grocery Manufacturers Association, which represents more than 300 food and beverage makers, had a panel that discussed the topic as part of a conference in February. Lawyers representing food and beverage companies have told their clients to be wary. Part of the problem, lawyers agree, is that consumers are looking for healthier products, and companies have responded by creating and branding their products as “all natural.”

The Food and Drug Administration, the agency that oversees packaged food labeling in the United States, has no definition of what counts as “natural.” As long as a food labeled “natural” doesn’t contain added colour, artificial flavour or synthetic substances, the agency doesn’t object.

That’s not enough guidance, some lawyers said.

“The whole natural issue is a mess,” said Michael Jacobson, the executive director of the Center for Science in the Public Interest, a Washington-based food safety and advocacy group that helped get the makers of 7UP and Capri Sun to stop making natural claims about their products.

Jacobson and others say the FDA’s lack of guidance has left lingering questions.

One question has been whether a product with high fructose corn syrup, which is made by processing corn but does not occur naturally, can be labeled natural. That was the issue in a 2007 lawsuit over Snapple drinks. Snapple has said it no longer uses high fructose corn syrup in products marked “all natural,” and a New York judge ultimately ruled in Snapple’s favour and closed the case last year, but other lawsuits are still questioning the use of the term.

Many “all natural” lawsuits are still in their infancy, said Kellie Lerner a lawyer who is involved in the orange juice litigation and closely following “all natural” cases. Lerner said like the orange juice lawsuit, other similar lawsuits have sought class action status, where one or more consumers sue on behalf of all people who bought the product.

The lawsuits could get dismissed or go to trial, but companies could agree to settle with consumers and offer product vouchers or rebates. The company that owns Ben & Jerry’s and Breyers ice cream, for example, settled “all natural” lawsuits for $7.5 million earlier this year, providing customers who bought flavours like “Chubby Hubby” and “Chunky Monkey” cash rebates of up to $20. The ice cream company also agreed to change its packaging, and that’s something lawyers involved in the orange juice lawsuit want too.

“I’d like them to modify their marketing so that consumers can make an informed judgment on their purchases,” said Stephen A. Weiss, a lawyer involved in one of the lawsuits against Tropicana.

The Associated Press


TheSpec - Tropicana latest target of (http://www.thespec.com/news/business/article/735419--tropicana-latest-target-of-all-natural-claims)


you can watch the CBC coverage of the story here

CBC.ca Player (http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/1221258968/ID=2241135745)


im rather disappointed as I load up on tropicana oj @ costco all the time -_-

unit
05-31-2012, 04:20 PM
this is no secret, just being exposed on mainstream media for the first time.
how else do you sell "natural" OJ that always tastes exactly the same, all year round?
they store it and it loses its flavor in the process, and they re-add artificial flavor later when they need it.

"natural" is the biggest marketing crap in the food industry these days.

Razor Ramon HG
05-31-2012, 04:21 PM
Yeah, it should be common knowledge nowadays that almost all juices are processed the same way.

xilley
05-31-2012, 04:25 PM
100% natural or not, i ll drink that shit anyday

Akinari
05-31-2012, 04:29 PM
No surprise here. The only way to know the juice is 100% all-natural without any added chemicals/preservatives/miscellaneous shit is by making your own :troll:

MK-EK
05-31-2012, 04:47 PM
hmmm dont care ... tropicana still the tastiest "supermarket fresh" OJ!

Tapioca
05-31-2012, 05:07 PM
For my daily dose of Vitamin C, I would eat an orange any day over having a glass of orange juice.

PJ
05-31-2012, 05:07 PM
Hmm.. good to know? I guess... whatever.

urrh
05-31-2012, 06:02 PM
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1307/282motherofgod.jpg

PiuYi
05-31-2012, 06:03 PM
should still be healthier than SunnyD

G
05-31-2012, 06:04 PM
OJ + sprite/7-up :sweetjesus:

alpinestars
05-31-2012, 06:08 PM
No surprise here. The only way to know the juice is 100% all-natural without any added chemicals/preservatives/miscellaneous shit is by making your own :troll:

Even then, how natural can it be when we genetically modify oranges to be juicier, plumper, ripen faster, or add pesticides? Or you could buy certified organic which tastes like ass and costs a lot more

hotshot1
05-31-2012, 06:21 PM
I'm glad this came out. I hope a lot of people stop drinking fruit juices in general due to high fructose content.

In fact, I remember reading somewhere that oranges and grapes were the 2 worst fruits and are equivalent to drinking pop.

OTG-ZR2
05-31-2012, 06:38 PM
I'm glad this came out. I hope a lot of people stop drinking fruit juices in general due to high fructose content.

In fact, I remember reading somewhere that oranges and grapes were the 2 worst fruits and are equivalent to drinking pop.

Fruit in its non-juiced state is still loaded with fructose. Are you saying we shouldn't eat fruit? SMH.

StylinRed
05-31-2012, 07:21 PM
I'm glad this came out. I hope a lot of people stop drinking fruit juices in general due to high fructose content.

In fact, I remember reading somewhere that oranges and grapes were the 2 worst fruits and are equivalent to drinking pop.

doctors say its fine though because the body works harder at breaking it down from fruits

nickmak
05-31-2012, 07:47 PM
waaah it's not 100% natural. whatever its just high fructose corn syrup, at least it's not some tropicana factory employees cum

skittle
05-31-2012, 07:56 PM
Been drinking it for years, never had a carton that wasn't sweet.

punkwax
05-31-2012, 08:01 PM
OJ + sprite/7-up :sweetjesus:

You forgot vodka.

pastarocket
05-31-2012, 08:03 PM
-don't need no Tropicana when I have my own juicer to make 100% natural OJ.

smarv
05-31-2012, 08:13 PM
“natural” means shit all. Arsenic which is used as a poison is 100% natural...

Tapioca
05-31-2012, 09:04 PM
I'm glad this came out. I hope a lot of people stop drinking fruit juices in general due to high fructose content.

In fact, I remember reading somewhere that oranges and grapes were the 2 worst fruits and are equivalent to drinking pop.

There's nothing wrong with fruit as long as you have it in moderation and consume it by the afternoon so that your body has enough time to break it down.

GGnoRE
05-31-2012, 09:27 PM
Anyone with decent nutrition knowledge should know that juices are not that healthy to begin with. One should always prefer to eat whole fruits for vitamins.

tiger_handheld
05-31-2012, 09:57 PM
Anyone with decent nutrition knowledge should know that juices are not that healthy to begin with. One should always prefer to eat whole fruits for vitamins.

damn i always thought drinking OJ was same as eating an orange.

Culverin
05-31-2012, 10:40 PM
I prefer Simply Orange, but it's a lot more.

BlackZRoadster
05-31-2012, 10:57 PM
^i drink simply orange all the time.

dinosaur
05-31-2012, 10:58 PM
fructose= sugar from fruits
sucrose= simple sugar
high fructose corn syrup= sugar from processed corn syrup

the reason these are always listed as separate ingredients is so companies don't have to list "sugar" as the first ingredient.

obviously most everyone knows that it is mandatory for companies to list the ingredients on the label in of high % to lowest. if they just called it what it was, processed sugar, the number 1 ingredient in almost every product would be sugar. this obviously would not go over well with nutrition conscious people.

in reality, not only are these "all natural" juices high in sugar, but they are super high in calories. nobody ever drinks 1 cup of that shit...it calls you back for more and before you realize it, you have downed the whole damn carton and ingested almost 1000 calories of sugar.

its the same with all juices....ever checked out the label on "100% Natural" cranberry juice...or apple juice? sugar in a bottle.

AW607
05-31-2012, 11:05 PM
Not very partial to Tropicana, still enjoy myself a glass of these

http://growingupnatural.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/simply-orange2.jpg

rslater
05-31-2012, 11:58 PM
Anyone with decent nutrition knowledge should know that juices are not that healthy to begin with. One should always prefer to eat whole fruits for vitamins.

Clearly you shouldn't be speaking then.

DanHibiki
06-01-2012, 03:33 AM
OJ + sprite/7-up :sweetjesus:

I would always buys these two together, best thing ever.

Try it with Koala, it's pretty fuck good too.



I've cut back on buying orange juice after finding out that it has just as much sugar as Mountain Dew. It was a hard and sad thing to do. :okay:

Datsun
06-01-2012, 03:36 AM
Not too bothered by this...I'm thinking its because I'm used to my dad calling Sunny D orange juice :joy:

SkinnyPupp
06-01-2012, 03:53 AM
I never touch juice unless it comes from a fruit I am eating. The stuff is disgusting if you imagine what it must look like before the colors and sugar are added. Besides, even the "best" fruit juice is way more sugar at one time than our bodies can handle, unless it's right after a workout or something.

The stuff is like crack, both in its addictiveness and the damage it does to your body.

It's good that this kind of thing is getting some publicity

xilley
06-01-2012, 08:15 PM
just bought 8 jugs with pulp on sale at save ons gogogo !

StylinRed
06-01-2012, 08:31 PM
just bought 8 jugs with pulp on sale at save ons gogogo !

costcos on sale for this weekend too like $11 + change for 4 1.9l cartons

TouringTeg
06-01-2012, 09:04 PM
Like Skinny said... there is so much sugar in fruit juices it's ridiculous. The companies making this junk want you to thing it's a healthy drink because it's made with fruit.

Boostaholic
06-03-2012, 08:42 PM
it's sad that our food has to be marketed as "Natural", as if the default choice is "Un-Natural".

LiquidTurbo
06-03-2012, 09:44 PM
just eat real fruit.

Teh Doucher
06-03-2012, 10:04 PM
Ugh.. So sick of the fact that I can't believe in people or products anymore. World seriously is turning into a god damn shit hole.

Culture_Vulture
06-03-2012, 10:04 PM
buying OJ is so stupid, how do you justify paying $5 for a carton of OJ when a big bag of good quality navel oranges will run you less than half that price?

rslater
06-03-2012, 10:07 PM
I think its important to separate between fresh juice and the juice made by most large suppliers.

While I agree drinking 100% freshly made juice using only fruits will have between 40 and 50 grams of suger per 500ml, their is absolutely no reason not to drink fresh vegetable combined with fruits.

For the guy that suggested you should eat the whole fruit to get vitamins, you are retarded. If anything, its the exact opposite. The cell walls of whole fruits and its fiber content make it more difficult for you body to absorb 100% of the vitamins, minerals and live enzymes. The reason you juice fruits and vegetables is to break the cell walls down and extract all the nutrients that are locked into the fibers. You also allowing your digestive system the easiest way to absorb these nutrients as it's not working to break the fiber down. It is the quickest way to absorb all those things your eating whole fruits for, obviously except for the fiber.

Leopold Stotch
06-03-2012, 11:59 PM
i didn't know stephen weiss was a lawyer during the off season

xilley
06-04-2012, 05:13 AM
I prefer Simply Orange, but it's a lot more.

did somebody say simply orange

FerrariEnzo
06-04-2012, 12:11 PM
OrangeJulius is where I go to get my daily intake of fruits!! haha Pinacola is awesome..

dinosaur
06-04-2012, 01:09 PM
Ugh.. So sick of the fact that I can't believe in people or products anymore. World seriously is turning into a god damn shit hole.

You just reminded me of this....read it last week:

Food Frauds (http://www.cspinet.org/nah/foodfrauds.html)

SkinnyPupp
06-04-2012, 08:31 PM
xilley your fridge looks like a giant box of diabetes

CharlieH
06-04-2012, 08:35 PM
did somebody say simply orange

LOL dafuq

the_law82
06-05-2012, 11:16 AM
What about the Sun Rype Fruit plus Veggies?

I buy the 6 pack at costco whenever they're on sale. Based on their ingredients, it looks like there are no sugars added. It is from concentrate, but for the price, can't really expect it not to be...

SunRype - Fruit Plus Veggies Strawberry Banana (http://www.sunrype.ca/viewproduct.php?variety=59)

dinosaur
06-05-2012, 01:24 PM
^

Some info:

Understanding Concentrate Juice / Nutrition / Healthy Eating (http://www.fitday.com/fitness-articles/nutrition/healthy-eating/understanding-concentrate-juice.html)

Yodamaster
06-05-2012, 02:21 PM
Simple solution is to move out to the middle of nowhere and grow your own produce.

My grandfather grew most of what we ate at their place, and it was the best food I have ever had. Literally minute fresh fruits and vegetables.

SkinnyPupp
06-05-2012, 07:18 PM
What about the Sun Rype Fruit plus Veggies?

I buy the 6 pack at costco whenever they're on sale. Based on their ingredients, it looks like there are no sugars added. It is from concentrate, but for the price, can't really expect it not to be...

SunRype - Fruit Plus Veggies Strawberry Banana (http://www.sunrype.ca/viewproduct.php?variety=59)
"no sugar added" is meaningless when the fruit juice concentrate is 99% sugar.