[dinamix]

Botched parking attempt kills pedestrian in Kitsilano (http://www.theprovince.com/news/Botched+parking+attempt+kills+pedestrian+Kitsilano/6765087/story.html)

WTF!
how do some people get their licences? :fulloffuck:

A parking job gone wrong has left a woman dead and others shaken in the popular Vancouver neighbourhood of Kitsilano.

A driver, 67, was parallel parking his vehicle Monday on the north side of 2800-block West Broadway, just west of Macdonald Street when, for an unknown reason, the car accelerated and hit a 52-year-old woman walking westbound on the sidewalk.

The woman became pinned between the car’s trunk and the storefront of The Shoe Studio. She was taken to hospital but died soon after.

Later in the day, a visibly shaken woman who exited and locked up The Shoe Studio declined to comment and referred all questions to the police. The store’s windows were intact while dents were left along the store’s facade.

Yagger’s Sports Bar sits directly across the street from the shoe store and patrons were enjoying lunch on the patio when the accident occurred just before 12:30 p.m.

“I didn’t see it — I heard it. It was a large banging noise and then a scream,” said owner Tom Poirier of Monday’s accident.

“When I came out, I saw the station wagon almost perpendicular to the storefront.”

Nicole Belanger was behind the counter of Solly’s Bagels, located one door over from The Shoe Studio, when people ran into the shop, calling for help.

“I was in panic mode,” the employee said. “I just saw her on the ground getting CPR and the car pulled out into the street.”

According to Poirier and Belanger, pedestrians are often at the mercy of drivers along the busy corridor and major transit route. While the intersection of Macdonald and West Broadway has pedestrian-controlled signals, another crosswalk to the west of The Shoe Studio is uncontrolled.

Just a week earlier, a fire broke out on the second storey of two businesses only steps down the street from The Shoe Studio. A pizza shop and a salon have been closed since the June 5 blaze.

“That side of the block is not having a good week,” Poirier noted.

Collision investigators, who don’t believe speed or alcohol are factors in Monday’s accident, are now asking witnesses to contact 604-717-3012. The driver has been co-operating with police and the car will undergo mechanical testing.

Monday’s accident is the city’s eighth traffic-related fatality of the year, compared to seven in 2011 and just four in 2010.

sip@theprovince.com



Read more: http://www.theprovince.com/news/Botched+parking+attempt+kills+pedestrian+Kitsilano/6765087/story.html#ixzz1xXjrWreW

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RIP

Wow. This person should get the license revoked. Almost perpendicular to the storefront. How do u even do that? The poor woman was just at the wrong place at the wrong time.

[kkttsang]

they really should have driver test for people older then 65. i know this driver is only 67 but there are alot of old drivers out there that are driving dangerously.

[KO7]

Is that where the Plenty store is? I always thought that area is a pedestrian accident just waiting to happen, but more because of the multiple crosswalks within a 2 block distance.

RIP to the woman at the wrong place at the wrong time.

[accordpoop]

Wtf! A car is like a weapon when being drivin in the wrong hands. Rip

[FerrariEnzo]

they really should have driver test for people older then 65. i know this driver is only 67 but there are alot of old drivers out there that are driving dangerously.

i think this should be done to everyone who renews... its not just old people that cant drive...

[kkttsang]

but older people are more likely to have slower reaction time which could be dangerous on the road, if they have the N system for inexperience drivers, they should have something for older people too.

[nah]

This is the age where dementia sets in and sometimes they can forget which is brake and which is gas.

Old people really need to be tested every year. Remember the old lady in Victoria that gunned her vehicle into the group of taxi drivers?

[Amuse]

Is that where the Plenty store is? I always thought that area is a pedestrian accident just waiting to happen, but more because of the multiple crosswalks within a 2 block distance.
Exactly. You got to be very aware when you drive through there. There should be pedestrian lights or something.

[Graeme S]

but older people are more likely to have slower reaction time which could be dangerous on the road, if they have the N system for inexperience drivers, they should have something for older people too.
Lots of people suck, both old and young. If you're proposing to test older people but refusing a test yourself...you do realize that makes you look like a driver who wouldn't pass re-testing, yes?

[impulseX]

thats horrible. rip :(

[FerrariEnzo]

Remember the old lady in Victoria that gunned her vehicle into the group of taxi drivers?
Remeber thise rich c-lais that ALWAYS crash into something? prolly dont realize it coz soo many happens everyday...

We should send those rich c-lais to Nunavut.. haha.. im sure they dont mind the $104 pack of water..

[Psykopathik]

Remeber thise rich c-lais that ALWAYS crash into something? prolly dont realize it coz soo many happens everyday...

We should send those rich c-lais to Nunavut.. haha.. im sure they dont mind the $104 pack of water..

what?:suspicious:

[GLOW]

:fulloffuck:

[highres604]

fuckin old drivers. They should restrict driving based on age. After 50 years old, you have to take a driving test every 6 months to prove that you're not a moron.

[dinamix]

Remeber thise rich c-lais that ALWAYS crash into something? prolly dont realize it coz soo many happens everyday...

We should send those rich c-lais to Nunavut.. haha.. im sure they dont mind the $104 pack of water..


Ummm..ya..awkward silence

[terryjai]

im still confused at how a parallel parking job can go to horizontal parking job

RIP

[Jsunu]

fuckin old drivers. They should restrict driving based on age. After 50 years old, you have to take a driving test every 6 months to prove that you're not a moron.

50!? Exam every 6 months?

How old are you :suspicious:

[freakshow]

^ I'm gonna guess he's 14.
50 aint old. 65 isn't even that old.
Retesting should be mandatory for everyone..

[highres604]

actually, im almost 40 kids.

and yes.. 50 IS old... And it is when people start to react slower. Why wait until 65 when it might be way too late and more people die. What if it was your mom walking there?
ANd what happens to this shithead driver? nothing... sure it was an accident, but fuck how many more people have to get run over by these assholes.

[red_sir]

I hope I'm not still on revscene when I'm almost 40.

[highres604]

don't worry, you will be killed in a freak parallel parking accident way before then

[Kidnapman]

To all the people who don't agree on people being re-examined every so often. Is 20 mins in your pitiful life really more important than the lives of thousands of others on the road that you could potentially harm or even kill? Fucking self centered bastards.

[Pooface55]

Horrible. Wrong place at the wrong time. RIP

[spideyv2]

Remeber thise rich c-lais that ALWAYS crash into something? prolly dont realize it coz soo many happens everyday...

We should send those rich c-lais to Nunavut.. haha.. im sure they dont mind the $104 pack of water..

All threads have at least 1 dumbass poster. This guy is one of them.

[Noir]

To all the people who don't agree on people being re-examined every so often. Is 20 mins in your pitiful life really more important than the lives of thousands of others on the road that you could potentially harm or even kill? Fucking self centered bastards.

Because people jump on the "senior" bandwagon based on generalizations. In my daily observation from Highway 1 alone, bad driving is a problem for ALL age groups; not just seniors. Why do you think the cellphone ban was recently put in place? Was it because of seniors running a muck? No, it was us. And cellphones are just the tip of the iceberg for our age group.


If we're going by reputation alone. They should just fucking re-test everyone that's Chinese every 6 months. I'm sure this won't piss off anyone that's not Chinese.

[duy-]

^honestly i dont mind as long as i dont have to pay for it. if the majority of my race is causing the majority of the accidents, damages, deaths.. ill have no issues proving im not part of that statistic.
if i had it my way i would get rid of aircare and instead, id make a mandatory drivers retest every 2 years, and you pay 40 - 70 or whatever amount needed to cover the extra man power. once a year for anyone born before 91 at half the cost ;)

[tonyzoomzoom]

everyone should have to re-take the road exam when they renew their driver's license. I'm willing to take the time to do it and pay for it as it will make the roads safer.

[tarobbt]

Someone should wear clothing that blends in with the wall of a parking stall, lets see if c lais know when they are parked :fullofwin:

[AzNightmare]

While I like the re-testing idea, I think the tests itself are a problem.
People can pass with shitty parellel parking. And you only need to do it once anyway in a test.
People fluke it or get to try parking the car 20 times and then get a pass.

The mentality of defensive driving is kind of flawed. Because they are just telling people to drive slower instead of better.

It's funny, because I know a few acquaintances that can't drive well, scared to go over 45km/h,
took the test once or twice and never got behind the wheel again, etc.

And how the hell did they even pass??! :fulloffuck:

So much for stall parking when the stalls are big enough to fit two cars.
So wonder people park their cars 45 degrees and think it's OKAY.

[duy-]

While I like the re-testing idea, I think the tests itself are a problem.
People can pass with shitty parellel parking. And you only need to do it once anyway in a test.
People fluke it or get to try parking the car 20 times and then get a pass.

The mentality of defensive driving is kind of flawed. Because they are just telling people to drive slower instead of better.

It's funny, because I know a few acquaintances that can't drive well, scared to go over 45km/h,
took the test once or twice and never got behind the wheel again, etc.

And how the hell did they even pass??! :fulloffuck:

So much for stall parking when the stalls are big enough to fit two cars.
So wonder people park their cars 45 degrees and think it's OKAY.

yeah... thanks for saying that actually... i had to teach one of my neighbors how to parallel park out of good will (actually i just got a new jdm bumper and ill be damned if she hits it). turns out she was never taught that the mirrors could be used to park. she used the braille method and when i told her about the mirrors, she was just downright astonished.. blew her fucking mind, even sent me cookies after

long story short, still cant park very well but at least better. how she got a license i may never know

[Noir]

TBH, I'm going to admit that I probably need a re-test much more urgently than seniors, and I'll wager a lot of you don't realize it but you need it too.


It's not so much that my skills are terrible, nor am I even close to being a newb. It's really moreso that because I've been driving for well over a decade, I've accumulated so many bad habits that if I were to drive my "everyday style" during a test, I'd fail in the first 15 minutes.


edit:

Actually, lets make it within 1 minute. That's because I turn the engine on first, before the seatbelt even though I know better. lol

[sekin67835]

The test itself is just to prove if you can drive safe, but how many of us really drive that way after the test? Shouldn't the test be made to test how we drive normally everyday?

[Mr.HappySilp]

yeah... thanks for saying that actually... i had to teach one of my neighbors how to parallel park out of good will (actually i just got a new jdm bumper and ill be damned if she hits it). turns out she was never taught that the mirrors could be used to park. she used the braille method and when i told her about the mirrors, she was just downright astonished.. blew her fucking mind, even sent me cookies after

long story short, still cant park very well but at least better. how she got a license i may never know

If she did the test with the instructor's car is really easy. I remember when I did mine with the instructor's car he put these little pot papers on the side mirrors and front as well. As long as the dot is on the side curb your parallel parking will be perfect everytime. Of coz that doesn't help the person but is sure an easy way lol.

[smarv]

i was in the area driving by wondering why their were 5-6 cop cars around an ugly station wagon that was parallel parked poorly. I didn't realize a lady had been killed, damn thats sad.

[alpinestars]

We have a system where you could lose your license for not putting up an N sign, but you could have 3 accidents per year be OKAY as long as you pay them off (through premiums or with cash).

[Mr.HappySilp]

We have a system where you could lose your license for not putting up an N sign, but you could have 3 accidents per year be OKAY as long as you pay them off (through premiums or with cash).

That's coz ICBC wants your money lol.

[JSALES]

I actually wouldn't mind doing a retest no matter what age group. It would get more idiots off the road.

[i-VTEC]

If retest will prevent people driving like idiots then I am up for it as well.

Quick retest every 5 years when you have to renew your license or something.

[static]

I once valeted a 70ish year old woman's volvo. On the dashboard were large stickers that said "Left" and "Right" with big arrows.

That was scary, considering she could speak English. This meant she was losing her memory. It wouldn't be a stretch for her to forget which one was gas or brake. The rules need to change.

[AzNightmare]

TBH, I'm going to admit that I probably need a re-test much more urgently than seniors, and I'll wager a lot of you don't realize it but you need it too.


It's not so much that my skills are terrible, nor am I even close to being a newb. It's really moreso that because I've been driving for well over a decade, I've accumulated so many bad habits that if I were to drive my "everyday style" during a test, I'd fail in the first 15 minutes.


edit:

Actually, lets make it within 1 minute. That's because I turn the engine on first, before the seatbelt even though I know better. lol


While I agree that having re-tests is a good idea, bad habits don't automatically mean bad driving. There's so many "good driving habits" that are just fundamentals for noobs, which aren't really necessary once a driver is more experienced, which is why they were "phased out" in the first place in a driver's habits. And then there are just some things that are there for idiot-proofing.

Examples are like failing a test for driving 55-60km/h. If a driver COULDN'T handle driving at 60km/h... I honestly don't think they even deserve to drive.

Like your example, turning on the engine first. If you failed for turning the engine on first before seatbelt, that's just stupid. The whole point of that is just to ensure people buckle up before they start driving. If people just buckle up before driving, do the order of events prior to the vehicle being in motion really matter?

And even if you say you've accumulated so many "bad habits", I'll give you the benefit of the doubt you're not accident prone. If that's the case, your so-called "bad habits" would actually be pretty good habits, no?

Don't get me wrong though. Some drivers do develop REALLY BAD and dangerous habits, and should be off the road.
Which is why I don't mind re-tests. But I seriously hate the way these tests are set up, and their criteria to pass.

[maxx]

I just learned today that this woman was my best friend's mother and our close family friend.

She leaves behind two daughters. I have no other details at this time.