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Vancouver_M5
06-20-2012, 12:07 PM
I spent a lot of money on high end CPU's and GPU's in the quest of increasing my computer's speed. A new cpu that was 3 times more powerfull than my old one did little differnce, maybe 10% overall speed increase overall.

The new gpu was over 6 times faster and it did increase the whole pc speed by quite a lot in all aspects, especially gaming where i had 100+ frames. But all those fps didnt help me in computing speed overall.

I then added a extra 4gb of ram, bringing it up to 8gb of ram whoch increased the pc speed and operation by about 20%

All this stuff cost me hundreds of dollars with litlle effect to what i wanted to accomplish.

Next thing i got was a SSD , it was 40$ for a used 60gb OCZ, my boot time went from 4 mins to 11 seconds, the differnce that SSD did was astronomical, i increased the whole pc speed by at least 200%, so to sum things up .... Forget all the cpu,gpu and ram upgrades, grab yourself a SSD.

sekin67835
06-20-2012, 12:12 PM
I find that when I was running a quad core on the ga 775 socket, the speed of the CPU and GPU wasn't really affecting my speed that much. For me, the ram was being used up really fast. I had a ssd before but that only speeds up your boot time/ application launch. Gaming wise, it's not that beneficiary.

!MiKrofT
06-20-2012, 12:13 PM
Sorry but it's very obvious that upgrading your GPU and RAM won't dramatically speed up your overall system performance. Any computer tech would know that. As well we all know that SSD's improve responsiveness by a lot. What you upgrade depends greatly on what you're using your PC for.

Telling people to forget everything else and get just an SSD while is a good idea may not workout for everyone.

Vancouver_M5
06-20-2012, 12:53 PM
I find that when I was running a quad core on the ga 775 socket, the speed of the CPU and GPU wasn't really affecting my speed that much. For me, the ram was being used up really fast. I had a ssd before but that only speeds up your boot time/ application launch. Gaming wise, it's not that beneficiary.

If you have a secondary ssd for your games you will notice in games with big maps such as Wow, diablo and skyrim that the load times are near instant

Vancouver_M5
06-20-2012, 12:55 PM
Sorry but it's very obvious that upgrading your GPU and RAM won't dramatically speed up your overall system performance. Any computer tech would know that. As well we all know that SSD's improve responsiveness by a lot. What you upgrade depends greatly on what you're using your PC for.

Telling people to forget everything else and get just an SSD while is a good idea may not workout for everyone.

I meant that ssd had the biggest effect on speeding up the pc os itself and its operation, not fps in games or rendering.
Not everyone is a pro tech here, i'm just trying to clarify for some users that dont know what to upgrade in order to increase the speed of their os operations.

PornMaster
06-20-2012, 12:59 PM
Thats why you don't upgrade, wait until you need do an entire new build or almost an entire upgrade.

BossFrancis
06-20-2012, 01:07 PM
I've got a shitbox sitting in the house; running XP, 512 MB of RAM. Do you think it'll speed stuff up with a SSD? Kinda wanna use it for other purposes.

joquio
06-20-2012, 04:14 PM
I spent a lot of money on high end CPU's and GPU's in the quest of increasing my computer's speed. A new cpu that was 3 times more powerfull than my old one did little differnce, maybe 10% overall speed increase overall.

The new gpu was over 6 times faster and it did increase the whole pc speed by quite a lot in all aspects, especially gaming where i had 100+ frames. But all those fps didnt help me in computing speed overall.

I then added a extra 4gb of ram, bringing it up to 8gb of ram whoch increased the pc speed and operation by about 20%

All this stuff cost me hundreds of dollars with litlle effect to what i wanted to accomplish.

Next thing i got was a SSD , it was 40$ for a used 60gb OCZ, my boot time went from 4 mins to 11 seconds, the differnce that SSD did was astronomical, i increased the whole pc speed by at least 200%, so to sum things up .... Forget all the cpu,gpu and ram upgrades, grab yourself a SSD.



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yray
06-20-2012, 04:21 PM
delete system32 will make any computer system fast

Datsun
06-20-2012, 04:22 PM
I thought everyone knew storage devices have always been a major bottleneck?


Even if you didn't, you would at least know from benchmarks that new CPU and GPUs dont usually provide more than marginal improvements (at least in normal operaton)

Vancouver_M5
06-20-2012, 05:00 PM
delete system32 will make any computer system fast
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Vancouver_M5
06-20-2012, 05:04 PM
I thought everyone knew storage devices have always been a major bottleneck?


Even if you didn't, you would at least know from benchmarks that new CPU and GPUs dont usually provide more than marginal improvements (at least in normal operaton)

I knew that the hdd made a big differnce but not this big...
In any case this post wasnt aimed at people with C++ skills, running bulldozers on 2000$ GPU's.

FerrariEnzo
06-20-2012, 05:51 PM
my boot time went from 4 mins to 11 seconds,
what the heck.. 4min to boot... what do you have a 486 DX2?? :suspicious:

Iceman_2K
06-20-2012, 06:20 PM
Welcome to last year.

!MiKrofT
06-20-2012, 08:49 PM
what the heck.. 4min to boot... what do you have a 486 DX2?? :suspicious:
Not to sound mean but he's got other problems if his comp takes that long to boot on a normal hdd. My desktop at work boots in like 60secs or less.

Hehe
06-20-2012, 09:05 PM
Welcome to last year.

More like 2010.

I remember buying my 60GB SSD for 2xx and it was the second best day of my life building my own PC.

The best day of my life was when I discovered what the Turbo button does to a 486.

Alby
06-20-2012, 11:37 PM
dat turbo :sweetjesus:

Anjew
06-21-2012, 12:00 AM
Not to sound mean but he's got other problems if his comp takes that long to boot on a normal hdd. My desktop at work boots in like 60secs or less.

ya 4minutes wtf, maybe he was hooked upto the alureon botnet and when he formatted his pc to load the os on his ssd he cleaned it inadvertently haha

I've got a shitbox sitting in the house; running XP, 512 MB of RAM. Do you think it'll speed stuff up with a SSD? Kinda wanna use it for other purposes.

in your case upgrading your ram will make a HUGE difference(a pc with specs like yours may take ddr1 only). a cheap ssd from an ncix sale will also speed up responsiveness. make sure your shitbox has sata =)

Anjew
06-21-2012, 12:01 AM
More like 2010.

I remember buying my 60GB SSD for 2xx and it was the second best day of my life building my own PC.

The best day of my life was when I discovered what the Turbo button does to a 486.

i always turned it off and then turned it on when i needed the boost even though i could have left it on permanently lol.

Vancouver_M5
06-21-2012, 05:59 PM
what the heck.. 4min to boot... what do you have a 486 DX2?? :suspicious:

Tbh i have no ideea why it tales so long to boot, maybe cauze i have the same windows installation for 2 years and aprox 2TB of HDD tied to it.

Of course that time can be dropped to 2 mins and something with the removal of my startup programs but i needed them all to stay.
My pc is a amd x4@ 4,000mhz , gtx670 and 8gb ram ddr2

Ferra
06-22-2012, 06:56 AM
performance is all about bottleneck, most PC has an old and clustered HDD that's holding everything back, so that's why you feel a huge difference when you upgrade to an SSD with a fresh window install.

e.g. I was using a WD Caviar Black drive then upgraded to a Crucial M4 128GB...the performance gain was minimal. Boot time went from 36 sec to 32 sec
The new SSD was fast and responsive, but so was my original HDD because I kept the drive extremely clean. (Never install a single useless program, didn't even install itunes on it)

Btw...If your original drive was taking 2min+ too boot, the performance gain you are seeing probably has more to do with a fresh window install than the faster SSD performance.

lilaznviper
06-22-2012, 07:02 PM
most people will be surprised how much faster their computer will run after a defrag of the drive.

tiger_handheld
06-22-2012, 08:02 PM
so solid state drives can be had for 60$?

Manic!
06-22-2012, 08:15 PM
Can`t believe how much money the OP wasted when he should have just gotten this.

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asian_XL
06-22-2012, 09:26 PM
why upgrade your PC when you can simply increase mouse speed and keyboard repeat speed a little. Instant turbo mode

iam_dan
06-22-2012, 10:24 PM
so solid state drives can be had for 60$?

yep, check out redflagdeals. ssd's are fairly affordable nowadays

Anjew
06-23-2012, 04:04 AM
most people will be surprised how much faster their computer will run after a defrag of the drive.

yea just make sure you dont defrag if you have an SSD.

LuHua
06-23-2012, 08:20 AM
Haha, so much bashing on here. Problem with aiming this at those who don't know what they're doing is they're either going to have to spend a ton of money on at least a 256GB drive, or they're going to complain that their storage is running out. It takes a bit of work to split the built in storage folders in Windows (Documents, Pictures, etc.) off into a different drive, and otherwise they wouldn't know how to set it up for caching or wouldn't be able to, since you need the latest and greatest Intel Chipsets (missed out on that by jumping on the P67...)

JesseBlue
06-25-2012, 07:25 PM
he most likely had windows indexing enabled on the whole c: drive...

belaud
06-25-2012, 10:05 PM
I spent a lot of money on high end CPU's and GPU's in the quest of increasing my computer's speed. A new cpu that was 3 times more powerfull than my old one did little differnce, maybe 10% overall speed increase overall.

The new gpu was over 6 times faster and it did increase the whole pc speed by quite a lot in all aspects, especially gaming where i had 100+ frames. But all those fps didnt help me in computing speed overall.

I then added a extra 4gb of ram, bringing it up to 8gb of ram whoch increased the pc speed and operation by about 20%

All this stuff cost me hundreds of dollars with litlle effect to what i wanted to accomplish.

Next thing i got was a SSD , it was 40$ for a used 60gb OCZ, my boot time went from 4 mins to 11 seconds, the differnce that SSD did was astronomical, i increased the whole pc speed by at least 200%, so to sum things up .... Forget all the cpu,gpu and ram upgrades, grab yourself a SSD.

SSD increases responsiveness, not its processing power.

A new CPU thats 3x more powerful then its old predecesser will be extremely noticeable, upgrading from an i7 970 to a 3960x is less then 30%, yet I noticed the speed increase almost imminently.

A new GPU will increase your frame rates for Windows aero as well as in game FPS for 2D/3D applications, this will increase your computing speed by offloading the multitudes of videos/in game java/flash you have open.

8GB's of RAM will not increase your speed operations by 20%, it will free up "locked" space on your computer, allowing for more free flowing processing.

Last but not least, 4 minutes to 11 seconds is impossible, 11 seconds on a fully loaded OS is also impossible, unless you are using a RAID config, or a REVO drive.

SOURCE: I work with this shit day in, day out.

Theres a thing called balance, having a strong CPU and a weak GPU serves it purpose as a workstation/data server, a strong GPU with a weak CPU is just useless. The average joe's computer needs to have a well balanced processor - GPU, otherwise you are losing out on either one, you are using an AMD X4 + GTX670, you are already bottlenecking your graphics card immensely.

TL;DR OP is full of shit and should do his research.

freakshow
06-26-2012, 07:25 AM
SSD performance is also affected by the amount of space remaining on the drive. I wouldn't recommend a 60GB primary, it's way too small for Windows. IMO, 80GB is the minimum, 120GB being preferable.

The last thing you want to do is have a much more responsive computer, but get "disk full" errors like you were in the 90s, and then have to move files around all the time.

Psykopathik
07-03-2012, 01:17 PM
11 sec lol. your BIOS screen wont even load that fast. 20-30 sec is the norm even for fast PC's

dealt
07-10-2012, 09:05 PM
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4076/2446374749f5044a2333.jpg

:fuckyea:

Matlock
07-10-2012, 09:18 PM
most people will be surprised how much faster their computer will run after a defrag of the drive.

As long as it's not SSD, that would screw it up.

Datsun
07-10-2012, 10:12 PM
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4076/2446374749f5044a2333.jpg

:fuckyea:

Its a shame that the turbo buttons I had on my old cases weren't 5.25 bays. Otherwise I'd have a solid additional 5GHz on my 2500K by now.:okay:

knight604
07-11-2012, 11:24 AM
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