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My Challenge To Timpo...
dangonay
06-24-2012, 09:46 AM
I'm betting I can turn Timpo from a car enthusiast more interested in body kits to convert your Ferrari into a Gundam into someone that is actually able to tune an engine.
And by "tune" I don't mean bolting on a few parts. I mean Timpo would be able to look at an engine, determine all the parts required, build a complete wiring harness from scratch, setup an aftermarket ECU and then dyno tune the ECU/engine for optimum performance.
That is, if Timpo agrees to follow along with my 3 simple steps........
TOS'd
06-24-2012, 09:59 AM
I'm betting I can turn Timpo from a car enthusiast more interested in body kits to convert your Ferrari into a Gundam into someone that is actually able to tune an engine.
And by "tune" I don't mean bolting on a few parts. I mean Timpo would be able to look at an engine, determine all the parts required, build a complete wiring harness from scratch, setup an aftermarket ECU and then dyno tune the ECU/engine for optimum performance.
That is, if Timpo agrees to follow along with my 3 simple steps........
dafuq?
Gh0stRider
06-24-2012, 10:46 AM
hes still banned, fool
dangonay
06-24-2012, 11:08 AM
Well, shows how much I'm up on current events on RS. In that case substitute "Timpo" with "someone who knows dick all about tuning".
TOS'd
06-24-2012, 11:42 AM
I'm betting I can turn dangonay from a car enthusiast more interested in body kits to convert your Ferrari into a Gundam into someone that is actually able to tune an engine.
And by "tune" Idon't mean bolting on a few parts. I mean dangonay would be able to look at an engine, determine all the parts required, build a complete wiring harness from scratch, setup an aftermarket ECU and then dyno tune the ECU/engine for optimum performance.
That is, if dangonay agrees to follow along with my 3 simple steps........
MindBomber
06-24-2012, 11:44 AM
I like the direction of this thread..
unban Timpo, I want to see where this is going..
Vale46Rossi
06-24-2012, 11:51 AM
http://i.qkme.me/35lhjg.jpg
FerrariEnzo
06-24-2012, 12:54 PM
I'm betting I can turn Timpo from a car enthusiast more interested in body kits to convert your Ferrari into a Gundam into someone that is actually able to tune an engine.
what the fuck did you just say here?
spoon.ek9
06-24-2012, 01:12 PM
what are the three simple steps.....?
Presto
06-24-2012, 02:41 PM
1. Collect underpants
2. ???
3. Profit!
1. Bendover
2. Lube
3. Latex gloves
dangonay
06-24-2012, 03:11 PM
I like the direction of this thread..
unban Timpo, I want to see where this is going..
If I posted a poll and asked which person on RS knew the least about automotive technology, I'm sure the overwhelming response would be "Timpo". So why not use that as an advantage and state "If I could teach Timpo than I could teach anyone".
My mistake for not knowing he was banned - I didn't realize RS would ban someone for poor taste. However, it appears there are a few others with the qualifications to take his place.
what the fuck did you just say here?
I thought it was quite obvious - that I could take someone who knew nothing about tuning and actually teach them to tune.
punkwax
06-24-2012, 03:47 PM
:suspicious:
StylinRed
06-24-2012, 06:12 PM
timpos banned? wth why
dangonay
06-24-2012, 06:50 PM
Short version: I am going to take everything I know about fuel injection, engine performance and tuning and make it available online in a sequential group of "lessons" that someone with little to no knowledge would be able to read and at the end would be competent enough to build and tune their own engine. And this information will be available free of charge.
Long version when I get back in front of a PC.
tiger_handheld
06-24-2012, 08:53 PM
I thought EB unbanned everyone during a chat session a couple weeks ago..
El Bastardo
06-24-2012, 08:58 PM
I unbanned everyone who was banned from chat, not from Revscene itself.
:fuckthatshit:
I'd never unban some of the people who were rightfully banned
dangonay
06-24-2012, 10:14 PM
Long version....
Several years ago some friends (whose cars I had done a significant amount of work on over the years) suggested I write a book on how to tune & modify vehicles. I replied that there were a lot of books available and I probably wouldn't have anything to add that wasn't already covered. My one friend laughed and asked if I had actually read any of them recently - I hadn't. Well, he had and he was of the opinion they weren't very useful at all and left the reader with just as many questions as they had before they read the book. When he wanted an answer to something he would call me as he thought I was able to explain things much better than what he could find in any book.
So he gave me his books to read (I won't name them since I don't want to slander any company on RS) and I discovered he was right - they were terrible. I thought he might have simply purchased a poorly written book and so I searched for reviews on similar books and ordered two more "top-rated" ones from Amazon. They weren't much better. I'm sure to a person who didn't know much they would seem as if they provided a wealth of information. They might even appear "daunting". The reality is they have huge gaps in their information to the point you'd have to purchase half-a-dozen just to make sure every topic is covered properly.
It occurred to me that there could be a market for a "fuel injection bible" that had all the information you could possibly want in a single book. I then started writing and compiling information with the intention of turning it into a book. And writing and writing and writing. I then did some research on getting published and came to the unfortunate conclusion it would be difficult (read expensive) to get published. And with a book like this which has a very limited target audience, the expenses to get published could outweigh any possible money I might make. Too risky for my blood. I then looked at other possible ways to get this information out there from PDF files to e-books to iBooks or even a web site. After weighing all the options I decided to do something really simple and create a blog.
So my plan is to create a new blog post every week (or so) and this blog post would basically be a "lesson". The initial "lessons" would discuss the most basic of topics as I'm going to assume the reader knows nothing at all about automotive technology. However, the lessons will progress to cover more complex topics such that by the time I'm finished the reader should (I hope) have an excellent understanding of fuel injection systems and engine tuning.
Now to the people who PM'd me while I was composing this, there is no actual "challenge" nor am I going to "pick" who will get access to this information. I only used Timpo as an example to get people's attention. This blog will be available 100% free to anyone who wants to read it. The only requirement is patience - if I break down everything I've written over the years and divided it up into manageable pieces it will take a year (or more) at one lesson per week to cover it all. I'm hoping that each lesson will be interesting (and engaging enough) to make people want to keep coming back wee after week to learn more.
I also expect this blog to be polarizing. I can see a lot of people getting pissed with me publishing this information online - people who sell books on tuning, people who charge money for tuning courses or even tuners themselves who might see me the same as magicians see people who publish their "secrets". On the other side there will be people who are learning something useful and will be happy I've provided this information to them. As I've posted on RS many times before, I've always been one to share information with customers which is something that's not common in the automotive field. People who have their little "bag of tricks" always seem to want to keep them to themselves for fear they'll lose a competitive advantage over the next guy. To me this blog will be the ultimate extension to the idea of sharing with your customers.
So what are some of the things you'll learn?
Basic Electricity & Understanding Circuits
Basic Electronics
Advanced Electronics & Circuits Related To Fuel Injection
Printed Circuit Board Design
Microcontrollers & Programming Examples
Wiring Harness Design & Construction
ECU Construction & Operation
Sensors Used in Fuel Injection Systems
Physics of Engine Operation
Chemistry of Combustion
Data Acquisition
Dyno Tuning Methods
Math, Math & more Math
Don't let some of the titles scare you. Remember that even the world's best tuners started out knowing nothing at all about tuning. They had to start from scratch, which is what we'll also be doing.
My daughter (who is 9) is learning to program microcontrollers and is already building simple circuits. My wife (who is my first "student") is knowledgeable enough about tuning to embarass a lot of mechanics. If she can learn this stuff, so can Timpo and so can you.
My blog (with the first lesson) should be up in a few days as I'm just putting on the finishing touches. When it goes live, I'll post up the address and will welcome your feedback.
FerrariEnzo
06-24-2012, 10:40 PM
I thought it was quite obvious - that I could take someone who knew nothing about tuning and actually teach them to tune.
that sentence just sounds like you slapped words together.... makes no sense at all...
MindBomber
06-24-2012, 10:47 PM
that sentence just sounds like you slapped words together.... makes no sense at all...
I find it to be a logical and clearly constructed sentence. In fact, dangonay stands out in my mind as being among the most fluent writers on RS.
I very much look forward to reading this blog, dangonay.
essel
06-24-2012, 11:19 PM
Can't wait for the blog dangonay! :D I needed something like this
yogenfruz
06-24-2012, 11:42 PM
I actually look forward to the blog. Will give me some interesting reading material between studying for classes this year, and it will be something I can actually put to use for when I hopefully by my own vehicle next summer! I know the most of basics, but learning to do a lot of repair/tuning myself is gonna save me a lot of money which could be going toward school. :thumbs:
I find it to be a logical and clearly constructed sentence. In fact, dangonay stands out in my mind as being among the most fluent writers on RS.
I very much look forward to reading this blog, dangonay.
^ i'm with mindbomber. if you can write such a well constructed story as to your reasoning behind all this, i can't wait to see some of those lessons. i know jack all about electrical stuff, so that's going to prove useful i'm sure, i've needed a lot of help with electrical stuff on my car in the past. power to you man, can't wait to see it
q0192837465
06-28-2012, 09:12 PM
I'm interested in this lesson. Should help me learn more about my car. But first I need to learn how to jack up my car. Haha
LiquidTurbo
06-28-2012, 09:21 PM
If you're good at something, never do it for free. :troll:
PuYang
06-29-2012, 12:47 PM
Sounds very good! Looking forward to it ;D thanks for your generosity!
I'm complete noob, and know only the things I read online from various forums and articles. But I find reading those things often leaves me feeling like "Ok, I get it now... but how do I start or put this knowledge to actual use on my car?"
Will your blog really teach a noob like me how to get hands on? ;D
Benz_05TSX
06-29-2012, 02:07 PM
sounds good!!! I would love to learn about about tuning, and its FREE!!! The Asian side of me say YES!
dangonay
07-21-2012, 07:06 AM
If you're good at something, never do it for free. :troll:
I never said I wasn't going to get paid - I said the people reading don't have to pay for the content. Believe me, I have thought long and hard about different ways of monetization. ;)
Just an update....
Getting closer to going live. I was going to go live awhile ago, but realized my blog looked a little "empty" with only a single article. I decided to prepare several "articles" so there is enough content (hopefully) to get people interested enough to want to return. Hence the short delay.
SpuGen
07-21-2012, 01:31 PM
So what are some of the things you'll learn?
Basic Electricity & Understanding Circuits
Basic Electronics
Advanced Electronics & Circuits Related To Fuel Injection
Printed Circuit Board Design
Microcontrollers & Programming Examples
Wiring Harness Design & Construction
ECU Construction & Operation
Sensors Used in Fuel Injection Systems
Physics of Engine Operation
Chemistry of Combustion
Data Acquisition
Dyno Tuning Methods
Math, Math & more Math
:suspicious:
Fuck it. I'll stay ignorant. :lol
Have you thought of writing for Motoiq?
I can't wait, sounds like it's going to be a comprehensive course, thats gonna baby you through instead of throwing you directly into the firepit.
RabidRat
07-22-2012, 11:19 AM
I'd gladly pay for this, just saying.
I'd gladly pay for this, just saying.
No need, he'd probably make more money by making it free and going with AdSense
Redlines_Daily
09-18-2012, 10:10 PM
...My blog (with the first lesson) should be up in a few days as I'm just putting on the finishing touches. When it goes live, I'll post up the address and will welcome your feedback.
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dee242
09-18-2012, 10:51 PM
wating... now everyone on rs is going to become tuners
see.lai
09-19-2012, 06:06 AM
in. :drunk:
dangonay
09-19-2012, 09:05 AM
:)
Since some people seem to be eagerly awaiting this, feel free to PM me your e-mail and I'll tell you the website addresses and where to find things.
As with many projects, I find I'm never satisfied with things and always want to make them better. I'm too picky and anal. For a time I actually had 5 websites running (Blogger, Worpdress hosted, Wordpress on my own server, vBulletin and Xenforo).
After a bunch of testing I decided to go with Blogger and Xenforo. Although Wordpress can do more than Blogger, it has a ton of shit I'll never use. Plus I can't be bothered to start coding and modifying Wordpress to do things that "just work" in Blogger out-of-the-box. As to forum software it's no contest. vBulletin may have more "whiz-bang" features and mods, but it's a pig on server resources. A serious pig. Again, I don't need extensive customization (Xenforo is pretty good on its own) so having a gazillon add-ons doesn't benefit me at all. The reduced server load, however, is a very big plus.
For those interested, these were the biggest delays.
noventa
10-02-2012, 11:57 AM
Just want to let you know Dangonay I really appreciate your post. Would love to hear more about your Blog. (My 240 has been busted for almost 6 years because I can't afford to fix it)
dangonay
10-07-2012, 11:23 PM
For those interested you can visit my blog at: dangonay.blogspot.ca
The articles will start self-publishing on Oct 9th and from then on every Monday. I've finished enough articles for a couple months which will allow me to spend time going over feedback from readers and making adjustments/improvements (or fixing bugs).
You can visit my blog and read the few info pages that explain (hopefully) what I'm trying to do.
Just wondering what type or brand of microchip/fpga are you going to use/have used to develop your electronic gizmos that interface with car ECUs?
PIC, Arduino, Xilinx, Motorola?
Also what HDL?
dee242
10-08-2012, 03:46 PM
op delivered:nicethread: op for mod
kunoman1
10-08-2012, 03:56 PM
Looking forward to today's update
dangonay
10-08-2012, 06:16 PM
Just wondering what type or brand of microchip/fpga are you going to use/have used to develop your electronic gizmos that interface with car ECUs?
PIC, Arduino, Xilinx, Motorola?
Also what HDL?
Whoa, not going to get that complex for this course. While I plan on going into great detail I'm not going to turn people into hardware/software engineers.
For the things we're doing I'm going to use PIC because it's something that will be easy for people to learn. And we're not making mission critical devices (which neither PIC or Arduino would be suitable for).
For my own projects I use Freescale and Altium Designer (and yes, I paid for it as opposed to getting a cracked version).
dangonay
10-28-2012, 04:00 PM
Well, it's been almost a month and my first four articles are up. I would greatly appreciate any feedback (especially criticism) from anyone who cares to take the time to read through things so far. I'm trying to make this "project" interactive and adjust things as people let me know what I'm doing right (and where I'm screwing up).
Thanks in advance. :)
Oh, and I'm still waiting for Timpo to show up.
Cillu
10-28-2012, 07:23 PM
Nice, will give this a thorough read when I have some more free time. Looks very promising dude.
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