[shawnly1000]

The BC government is changing liquor laws to let you bring whatever wine you want to drink from home. But restaurants can charge a corkage fee, and the amount will be set by individual businesses.

BC liquor laws now let you bring own wine to restaurants - News1130 (http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/384369--bc-liquor-laws-now-let-you-bring-own-wine-to-restaurants)

[cho]

RIDICILOUS.

im in the restaurant side of things, and i feel as if its almost an insult that they would let people bring their own wines in

[nabs]

thats awesome, next time im bringing in my box wine and a straw =) lol.

[GGnoRE]

If restaurants choose to take part, anywhere from $10 to $50 could be charged as a corkage.

I highly doubt many restaurants will let you do this

[Vale46Rossi]

This is really common in a lot of places around the world.

Mortons @ Seattle charges $50 for corkage.

[Glove]

you bring your own wine, and they get to charge you 50 bucks?

why not just pay the 50 bucks and use their wine? lol,

makes no damn sense

[Jayboogz]

lol chinese restaurants been doing this illegally for ages..
been bringing my own wine to restaurants for years now the manager are usually cool about it if you know them well enough and also if the bill is gonna stacked up they wont care if you bring your own wine.

[TPMarko]

what if you bring wines with twist caps? no cork fee? :troll:

[GLOW]

reminds me when i saw a big group of people come in to this viet place i was at and brought their own 2L bottles of pop :lawl:

[Presto]

what if you bring wines with twist caps? no cork fee? :troll:

served cupcakes at my wedding, and still got dinged for the goddamned cake serving/cutting fee.

[lowside67]

you bring your own wine, and they get to charge you 50 bucks?

why not just pay the 50 bucks and use their wine? lol,

makes no damn sense
Originally corkage fees were introduced so that people could bring their own very special bottles of wine that were BETTER than the house wines available - not to save money. Corkage fee clearly doesn't cover just uncorking a bottle of wine, it also covers servers bringing glasses and pouring the wine, busboys clearing those glasses away, dishwashers washing them, replacing broken glasses, etc. The reality is this law isn't designed to help cheap people bring $10 bottles of wine in and save money...

Mark

[Culverin]

Bingo...

Every year I sleep outside the liquor store to line up for wine and it's not because I want a $10 bottle. There is some pretty limited release bottles (that may or may not cost an arm and a leg).

[Expresso]

This would've been handy for my wedding reception last year! :mad:

[westopher]

double post sorry

[westopher]

RIDICILOUS.

im in the restaurant side of things, and i feel as if its almost an insult that they would let people bring their own wines in
Seriously man? If somebody decided to celebrate their 25 year wedding anniversary, and I got to cook for their table, you can be sure I'd be flattered they got to enjoy some wine of the year of their wedding with my food. As said, its not so some broke ass can pop a bottle of baby duck and pretend to ball out, its so people can bring special bottles for special occasions. The corkage fee will always be set high enough to not make it worthwhile to try and save some money by rolling over to the cold beer and wine store before dinner.

[Hondaracer]

As lowside said, this isnt for bringing a bottle of copper moon to Earls, this is for bringing high end bottles to high end restaurants which do not carry the bottle, or if they do, it's probably not worth buying as opposed to bringing + cork fee

There are already places locally that have been doing this, and they are the only type of places anything like this would be worthwhile anyways

[Culverin]

FYI, corkage is something that is quite standard in the dining/culinary world.
This isn't something new to Vancouver.

Restaurants here (including the Chinese Seafood restaurants) used to do this locally as well at least up until the recent kerfuffle with BC Liquor. From what I know, Chinese places I know have a corkage of less than $15 a bottle.

[cho]

Seriously man? If somebody decided to celebrate their 25 year wedding anniversary, and I got to cook for their table, you can be sure I'd be flattered they got to enjoy some wine of the year of their wedding with my food. As said, its not so some broke ass can pop a bottle of baby duck and pretend to ball out, its so people can bring special bottles for special occasions. The corkage fee will always be set high enough to not make it worthwhile to try and save some money by rolling over to the cold beer and wine store before dinner.

Seriously?
I went to school to learn what wines pair with what food, and if I spend the time to do that, I would find it an insult if someone brough just some wine

[skyxx]

Only wine eh? :( No love for Spirits.

[Lomac]

Seriously?
I went to school to learn what wines pair with what food, and if I spend the time to do that, I would find it an insult if someone brough just some wine

If someone brings a bottle of wine with them for their 25th anniversary or something similar, chances are they didn't bring it to match it up with their dinner; likely, it has some special meaning behind it (like the wine they served on their wedding). They probably wont care that it doesn't "go" with what they're eating.

[shawnly1000]

Tenative list taken from Vancity Buzz, don't know how credible/confirmed

Chambar, 562 Beatty Street
Corkage Fee: $25

El Caminos, 3250 Main Street

Fray on Fraser, 3980 Fraser Street
$5 corkage fee

Gramercy Grill, 2685 Arbutus Street
Corkage fee: Unknown

Habit, 2610 Main Street

Le Parisien, 751 Denman Street
Corkage Fee: $20

NOVO Pizzeria, 2118 Burrard Street
Corkage Fee: Unknown

The Cascade Room, 2616 Main Street

The Union, 219 Union Street

West Restaurant, 2881 Granville Street
Corkage Fee: $50 corkage fee

[westopher]

Seriously?
I went to school to learn what wines pair with what food, and if I spend the time to do that, I would find it an insult if someone brough just some wineSo did I. You think that just because something isn't on your wine list, means that it won't pair with your food? Even if it doesn't, its not your job to tell people what to like, as much as both of us would like for that to be the case, we can only make suggestions to the best of our knowledge. You are taking this way too personally. Just because we were told how food should taste in a class doesn't mean if someone likes it a different way that they are wrong. Thats the whole point of food, is that it isn't quantitative, its that it is qualitative, which means there is no definitive answer.

[unit]

not to mention a lot of people have way better tastes in wine than the chefs and sommeliers in restaurants.

[Great68]

What's rediculous are our liquor laws for taking an opened bottle of wine from a restaurant home.

Seriously, what's with the requirement to bag/cover the bottle? It's like "OH NO, SOMEONE MIGHT SEE A BOTTLE OF WINE!"

[unit]

yah our liquor laws are just too strict here.
when i was in france i took a bottle out of a restaurant, and he even partially recorked it for me and gave me 2 plastic cups! bought a baguette later and enjoyed them by the river.

[impulseX]

Seriously?
I went to school to learn what wines pair with what food, and if I spend the time to do that, I would find it an insult if someone brough just some wine

but pairs are just... suggestions. i study the same stuff you do, but i also keep my mind opened to what the other members are inputting into this topic, and that is, some do bring wine that isn't on the menu because it could be more so symbolic, than a "perfect pairing". or maybe they are in fact, cheap. or maybe they particularly enjoy that wine a lot that even if its not a "right" pairing to their dinner, they enjoy it.

as a chef, you wouldn't come out to a table and bitch out your guests because their ordered wine b, instead of choosing your recommended wine a pairing.

don't take it too personal bro

[Tapioca]

Seriously?
I went to school to learn what wines pair with what food, and if I spend the time to do that, I would find it an insult if someone brough just some wine

Unless you can differentiate between different types of oak and can tell me where something was grown without looking at the label, then your knowledge and palette aren't worth even two cents. But, I can empathize with you because alcohol is where restaurants make their money.

As a semi-pro wine snob, I applaud this change. The people who complain just don't get it. If I can bring my bottle of Caymus Cab Sauv and pay $20 corkage instead of paying $175 a bottle from the restaurant, I still come out ahead.

[JACKED]

RIDICILOUS.

im in the restaurant side of things, and i feel as if its almost an insult that they would let people bring their own wines in

When I first heard about this law I didn't see why anyone would have a problem with it. Now I kind of do. I agree in a way this is almost like bringing your own food to eat in a restaurant. I'm still in support of it however as I do see myself one day bringing in a bottle of wine and ending up having a better night than if I had bought one there.

[Culverin]

When I first heard about this law I didn't see why anyone would have a problem with it.
Now I kind of do. I agree in a way this is almost like bringing your own food to eat in a restaurant.

I think you mean like bringing food to a drinking bar and having it there? Most restaurants may have wine, but that's hardly proof positive that they know their wines.
Just to let you know, that does happen elsewhere in the world. Vancouver might have some decent food here, but our food scene is weak compared to other places.
I think the fact we are even having a discussion on the normality of corkage (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-corkage-fee.htm) kind of goes to show the average level of food knowledge in Vancouver.

PS
Your schooling might have helped place you into a nicer restaurant, but I'd hazard a guess that 95% of the restaurants in Vancouver don't have a sommelier or even a decent wine cellar.
And even then, people have their own preferences.

PSS
I'm not a wine connoisseur, but I'd say I'm your average foodie with some family members who are wine enthusiasts.

[parm104]

LOL again, this law isn't designed to make it easier for everyone to bring their own alcohol from home at restaurants. It's more of a gesture to allow people who already own or want to drink rather expensive bottles of wine/alcohol at a restaurant, to bring their own from home and pay the restaurant for their service.

These people would be people who own $500+ bottles and chances are the restaurant will not have them. These same people are probably who would've spend a fair bit of money at the restaurant themselves anyways so the restaurant isn't really hurting from this, if anything, it's attracting higher end patrons.

Also, it encourages larger groups to come out more often. We have done this before and we had about 10-12 people with us. The cork fee was $55 but our dinner bill ended up being about $900 anyways. Had we not been able to do this, we would've been enjoying that bottle at home and had the get together catered by another company.

[SkinnyPupp]

Wow I had no idea this was illegal before :seriously:

[Manic!]

FYI: The restaurant association of BC supports this law.

[cho]

excuse me for being so naive, responded from my phone from what i first thought of
my bad if i offended anyone

[westopher]

I'm certainly not offended, I hope you aren't either. As said we are in very similar walks of life I am led to believe, and I understand its sometime easy to be offended by customers not listening to what is educated advice. Unless its completely outrageous I have learned not to let it bother me.

[penner2k]

What wine pairs best with a double cheeseburger at McDonalds?

[vafanculo]

What wine pairs best with a double cheeseburger at McDonalds?


Scope mouthwash

[parm104]

excuse me for being so naive, responded from my phone from what i first thought of
my bad if i offended anyone

lol nice save...

Sent Naively From My Phone

[xilley]

wine :fuckthatshit:

drink beer with any food :troll:

[Mike Oxbig]

Chinese people just open their own red wine at the seafood restruant table.

[Vansterdam]

Fuck wine

Bring out the cognac :troll:

[bcrdukes]

From today's Georgia Straight:

:joy: :fullofwin: :fuckthatshit:
http://www.straight.com/files/images/central/CAR_Arnould_2327.jpg