[dared3vil0]

Evening all, I'd like to start off by making one point very clear. I am NOT trying to be a fifteen thousand dollar baller. I understand i'm not going to get the upgrade i really want for this money, But i know i'll get something good (ish).

So, I'm not looking for the typical old ass beat to hell M3's for 15k, or the 90's M5 that requires a 100,000KM major service. What i am looking for is a car that will fit the following requirements:

1) This will be the daily. Reliable (ish) is preferred
2) My main wish right now is a corner carver. Handling is what i'm looking for right now. If i want straight line speed i can take one out of the family stable.
3) As much as i desperately want a RWD, It IS going to be a daily, With winter whistler runs, and 2-3 times a week up to cypress. FWD (FML) or AWD is preferred
4) Fuel economy honestly isn't that big of an issue, i already have a gas pig that requires premium.
5) N/A or F/I does not matter (FACTORY F/I that is. I don't want a aftermarket boosted Daily)
6) If i have to mod to get what i want, so be it. I like projects.


Thanks everybody.

[alex.w *//]

subaru impreza wrx

[Energy]

WRX fits the description.

[LP700-4]

What car do you have now? Cant really tell you whats an upgrade without knowing the car to be upgraded.

[Wild_Penguin]

I would say a S2000, But you said no rwd. Plus with your winter driving thats a no-go. So, I would say a Mazdaspeed 3 or a wrx.

[Energy]

I would have said s2000 too but he wants to do whistler and cypress runs. Not going to be able to take any gear with you in an s2k.

[PJ]

I'm gonna go ahead and agree with WRX sayers, since you mentioned you want something that corners well.
That also kinda puts the FWD out of the equation if that's a deal breaker, which crosses out the reliable Acuras.
There's the A4 Quattros as well, if you don't mind the more finnicky maintenance requirements.

[HondaGuy]

Subaru 2.5 RS

[heleu]

05+ Subaru Legacy GT or Spec. B.
Cheaper insurance, nicer/larger interior and trunk than a WRX.


Otherwise, I'd get a Mazdaspeed3.

[dared3vil0]

Sorry guys i should of said, I currently have a 2003 Nissan Maxima. It gets worse gas mileage than our Pathfinder (well close) It's not particularly fast, it handles ok, It really isn't good at much of anything. I like the WRX idea, but can you find a good one for 15? I thought that would push 20.

[jing]

NB mazdaspeed miata

[Tim Budong]

AUDI A4

[Energy]

Sorry guys i should of said, I currently have a 2003 Nissan Maxima. It gets worse gas mileage than our Pathfinder (well close) It's not particularly fast, it handles ok, It really isn't good at much of anything. I like the WRX idea, but can you find a good one for 15? I thought that would push 20.

Quick Craigslist search shows a lot of wrx under $15000. Shouldn't be too hard to find a good one.

[jtrinh]

Subaru 2.5 RS

This! 1st gen.

Don't be too afraid of RWD in Vancouver winter. If you're properly prepared(which you should be even in an AWD vehicle), you can make it up Seymour+Cypress just fine. As I was able to in my is300.

[tiger_handheld]

Audi

Subaru is a super car - per VPD. If you like HEAT go with Subaru , if you want to keep it on the DL - go with Audi .

[dared3vil0]

This! 1st gen.

Don't be too afraid of RWD in Vancouver winter. If you're properly prepared(which you should be even in an AWD vehicle), you can make it up Seymour+Cypress just fine. As I was able to in my is300.

I'd be inclined to agree i could get up Seymour and Cypress fairly easily as long as i had good snowies, Still nice to have that AWD aspect however. A note on the FWD, practical as it is, i hate FWD. If nothing else (the understeer, embarrassing fact that the rear wheels do absolutely NOTHING) The torque steer sucks. Big time.

[dared3vil0]

Audi

Subaru is a super car - per VPD. If you like HEAT go with Subaru , if you want to keep it on the DL - go with Audi .

I had a really bad experience... I don't want to talk about it tbh, but do Subi's honestly attract cops that badly?

[belaud]

7 months in, no hassle from cops, no tickets, i live beside a cop. just dont drive like a retard.

i have had a clean record all my life, with the exception of not showing my N once.

[dared3vil0]

Hmm. I like the WRX idea, except from what a cursory Craiglist glance told me, is there's no middle ground, It's either 8 grand for an 2000 with 180k, or 32k for a virtually brand new one. I like the speed3 idea, Oh how i wish it was AWD though. Would be a 20k STI. Then there IS a speed6. Hmm.

[Paradise240]

Look into the Mazdaspeed6. It's AWD, 4 doors and looks pretty good stock or modified. If memory serves me correct, prices should be around 15k

[Mr.C]

Look into the Mazdaspeed6. It's AWD, 4 doors and looks pretty good stock or modified. If memory serves me correct, prices should be around 15k

Totally this. It's a 6-speed too iirc. Didn't know they were down to 15k.

Also there's an S60R for 11.5

FS: 2004 Volvo S60R (http://victoria.en.craigslist.ca/cto/3119395643.html)

[dared3vil0]

WOW, Did i just see a Volvo that isn't boring? Hmm... The other thing, although sadly FWD (Fail Wheel Drive) Is an 06-07 2.0T A3, with a stage one APR chip.

[crazyazn]

Subaru: GC Impreza 2.5RS, WRX, Legacy GT, Forester XT

Mazda: MS3, MS6

Mini: Cooper S

Volvo: S60R, V70R

Honda: ITR, swapped EK

[zx7rrrr]

3rd gen TL with snow tires
g35x

[dared3vil0]

3rd gen TL with snow tires
g35x

I was seriously considering the g35X, and while it's still a contender... Why the hell is there no MT available? Infiniti :failed::troll:

[Tim Budong]

WOW, Did i just see a Volvo that isn't boring? Hmm... The other thing, although sadly FWD (Fail Wheel Drive) Is an 06-07 2.0T A3, with a stage one APR chip.

I do fine in my GTI with a stage2 chip on snows...
its the essentially the same thing

[dared3vil0]

I do fine in my GTI with a stage2 chip on snows...
its the essentially the same thing

Front wheel drive is great in the snow, i was never doubting that. I was more talking about the torque steer/understeer/no sideways in snow issues with FWD

[donjalapeno]

forget that subaru bull shit...

straight six + AWD + six speed = tons of fun in all seasons.

2001 BMW 330XI - LOW MILEAGE, FULLY LOADED: 4WD, LTHR, HIFI, WOOD TRIM (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/cto/3129754974.html)

[Energy]

^ That's actually pretty good. Says low kms but doesn't actually list the actual kms.

edit: reading comprehension fail on my part. long day.

[donjalapeno]

^ 100,300....it says it right below the details

[Shorn]

meh i would never get an xdrive bmw.. that's just me though (unless we're talking about x5s or something)

the weight distribution and handling is a lot better in the rwd ones. that's what bmw is known for anyway. also drivetrain loss + heavier car from the awd.

personally i would rather go quattro than xdrive if what i wanted was awd.

[Sky_High]

Hmm. I like the WRX idea, except from what a cursory Craiglist glance told me, is there's no middle ground, It's either 8 grand for an 2000 with 180k, or 32k for a virtually brand new one. I like the speed3 idea, Oh how i wish it was AWD though. Would be a 20k STI. Then there IS a speed6. Hmm.

★★★ 2004 subaru impreza WRX wagon auto only 33KM (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/bnc/cto/3168605385.html)
2004 subaru impreza WRX
4 door wagon with body kit
only 33,000KM
local B.C. car

Auto though...

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/cto/3124912824.html
2002 Subaru Impreza WRX - $10200
Car has 175,500 highway kilometers and all servicing is up to date with booklet of receipts. Car is 5 speed manual, has power windows, power locks, air conditioning, heated seats, 6 disk cd player, fog lights, winter and summer floor mats, winter and all season tires, factory Momo steering wheel, shift knob, and pedals. gets 450 - 600kms to a tank, approximately 10L/100kms.

[S1 S2]

Dc2 ITR
RT615k

Handles like a dream and still save gas.

[FerrariEnzo]

Also there's an S60R for 11.5

FS: 2004 Volvo S60R (http://victoria.en.craigslist.ca/cto/3119395643.html)

WOW.. this is one sexy Volvo... plus its 6speed...

[tiger_handheld]

I had a really bad experience... I don't want to talk about it tbh, but do Subi's honestly attract cops that badly?

I see that sarcasm does not go over well. I was referring to http://www.revscene.net/forums/671379-four-high-end-cars-impounded-after-speeding-through-vancouver.html

[dared3vil0]

I see that sarcasm does not go over well. I was referring to http://www.revscene.net/forums/671379-four-high-end-cars-impounded-after-speeding-through-vancouver.html

Didn't pick up on the sarcasm. Now that you point out the article, I get it. 24 hour joke anyone?

[dared3vil0]

★★★ 2004 subaru impreza WRX wagon auto only 33KM (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/bnc/cto/3168605385.html)
2004 subaru impreza WRX
4 door wagon with body kit
only 33,000KM
local B.C. car

Auto though...

2002 Subaru Impreza WRX (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/cto/3124912824.html)
2002 Subaru Impreza WRX - $10200
Car has 175,500 highway kilometers and all servicing is up to date with booklet of receipts. Car is 5 speed manual, has power windows, power locks, air conditioning, heated seats, 6 disk cd player, fog lights, winter and summer floor mats, winter and all season tires, factory Momo steering wheel, shift knob, and pedals. gets 450 - 600kms to a tank, approximately 10L/100kms.

33,000KM out of an 04 seems to good to be true, And I don't want a car with 175KM. Yeah, i know it'll be reliable blah blah blah, but i'm still looking for a car with relatively low KM.

[NLY]

2002 WRX 5Spd Sedan (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/3129600174.html)

2004 Subaru WRX Wagon 5Spd (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rch/cto/3134681907.html)

Looks promising

[LP700-4]

2006 Audi A4 2.0T, QUATTRO, AWD (( NO ACCIDENT, LOCAL )) (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rch/ctd/3120790133.html)

Or spend a bit more than your budget and get

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/ctd/3169052201.html

[dared3vil0]

That B7 is sharp, With an APR stage one and some coils... MMM

And i like the ralliart idea, But for 24 grand... I'd get an E IX

[optiblue]

WRX!

[dared3vil0]

At this point, my thoughts are:

If I decide to go FWD/AWD (Whistler/Cypress)

-B6 Audi A4 2.0T Quattro (APR Stage two)
-8PA Audi A3 2.0T (APR Stage one)
-Infiniti G35X Sedan (Stock, perhaps coupe mid-pipe)
-MKV Golf GTI (APR Stage one/two)

If I decide to go RWD, Which i DO want more

-Infiniti G35 Sedan 6MT (stock Perhaps Coupe mid-pipe)
-E46 BMW 330 6MT (225HP, what are common mods for this?)
-Some suggestions for more RWD would be nice. (I'm not wanting an S2000, or other convertibles, As i will still need to do alot of winter driving)

[Energy]

RWD can be good on snow with good winter tires. Try finding an E46 330i ZHP. That's all the car you need.

[dared3vil0]

RWD can be good on snow with good winter tires. Try finding an E46 330i ZHP. That's all the car you need.

Very true. (I had to Google ZHP, i'm embarrassed) But what does the ZHP Package add? More power, Sport suspension etc? Also, A 6MT IS fun, but i like the idea of an SMG. Do E46 330's have that as an option, or was it only the M3's?

[Energy]

Its an E46 with enough changes that make that car special.

- Engine mods that equal a gain of 10HP & 8 ft/lb of torque by reprogramming the Digital Motor Electronics to allow a 6800 RPM max (up from 6500).
- 6 speed short throw shifter (for manual transmission equipped cars)
- 3.07:1 Final drive ratio w/ manual trans instead of the standard 2.91:1.
- Max Speed Limiter set to 155 mph (instead of 128)
- New M suspension, more "sporty" than standard or poor road package.
- Firmer shocks
- Smaller diameter anti-roll bars
- More rigid forward bushings
- ZHP control arms are different and use a stiffer ball joint
- Lower ride height by 15 mm (.6 inches) utilizing shorter auxiliary springs
- Exterior trim elements (front & rear fascia, trunk lid spoiler)
- Special exterior trim: Anthracite (charcoal) headlight & fog light surrounds, High-Gloss Shadowline (black gloss) trim
- Large diameter stainless steel dual exhaust outlets
- Extra thick Alcantara steering wheel (later switched to perforated leather)
- ZSP Sport Seats
- Alcantara & cloth upholstery to replace leatherette and standard trim
- Choice of "Black Cube" or "Silver Cube" interior trim
- Red needles on the instrument cluster
- Style 135's are added, 18x8.0" front, 18x8.5" rear
- Wider Tires: 225/40ZR-18 in front and 255/35ZR-18 in the rear.
- Reduced steering rack ratio. 13.7:1 versus 15.4:1

[dared3vil0]

Its an E46 with enough changes that make that car special.

- Engine mods that equal a gain of 10HP & 8 ft/lb of torque by reprogramming the Digital Motor Electronics to allow a 6800 RPM max (up from 6500).
- 6 speed short throw shifter (for manual transmission equipped cars)
- 3.07:1 Final drive ratio w/ manual trans instead of the standard 2.91:1.
- Max Speed Limiter set to 155 mph (instead of 128)
- New M suspension, more "sporty" than standard or poor road package.
- Firmer shocks
- Smaller diameter anti-roll bars
- More rigid forward bushings
- ZHP control arms are different and use a stiffer ball joint
- Lower ride height by 15 mm (.6 inches) utilizing shorter auxiliary springs
- Exterior trim elements (front & rear fascia, trunk lid spoiler)
- Special exterior trim: Anthracite (charcoal) headlight & fog light surrounds, High-Gloss Shadowline (black gloss) trim
- Large diameter stainless steel dual exhaust outlets
- Extra thick Alcantara steering wheel (later switched to perforated leather)
- ZSP Sport Seats
- Alcantara & cloth upholstery to replace leatherette and standard trim
- Choice of "Black Cube" or "Silver Cube" interior trim
- Red needles on the instrument cluster
- Style 135's are added, 18x8.0" front, 18x8.5" rear
- Wider Tires: 225/40ZR-18 in front and 255/35ZR-18 in the rear.
- Reduced steering rack ratio. 13.7:1 versus 15.4:1

:drool:drool:
:considered:

Now THAT sounds just about perfect. What denotes the ZHP package when one goes to look at a 330? (Chances are the 50 year old person driving it has no clue they have a ZHP package) As in is it worked into the VIN?

[Energy]

Don't think its in the VIN but its easy to tell a ZHP apart from a regular 330i just by looking at it. Look for the M Tech II bodykit, shadowline trim, and special wheels on the outside. The inside will have M steering wheel and shifter, anthracite headliner, and cube trim.

One other RS'er has a ZHP convertible I can't remember his username off the top of my head.

I just searched craigslist and there's only one ZHP on there... in automatic too. Hmm they are rare but if you can find one they are special cars.

[donjalapeno]

^ redlines_daily

[1exotic]

reliable'ish
4WD
decent fuel econmy
twin turbo, over 300hp stock


1995 Nissan Skyline GTR R33 (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/3158509596.html)

[dared3vil0]

I'd rather not have a RHD as a daily. On the ZHP note, i think it's time to start hunting for one.

[tofu1413]

ZHP's are nice cars.


High gloss Black shadowline trim, different roof liner... some cars came with suede steering wheels if i remember..


sedans are hard to find, but they are out there, same with SMG equipped cars. only seen one SMG equipped 330ci ZHP.

2004 BMW 330I ZHP Performance Package (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/nvn/cto/3106770087.html)

good example. although this one is automatic, and is ex usa judging by cluster. not sure if you'd like imola red.. (i like it, personally)

[donjalapeno]

^ seats look cracked to shit

[tofu1413]

they actually tend to wrinkle like that...


every one i sat in tend to have "stretch" marks.. theyre not cracked though!

[dared3vil0]

I think i may have decided. 2003-05 Infiniti G35 sedan 6MT. Mods i'll end up doing: Exhaust, tint, Vossen VVSCV3 CV3 in Matte Silver (19x8.5 and 19x10.5)

[Energy]

What color are you looking at? Its hard to find a manual g sedan. Post pics when you buy your car!

[dared3vil0]

What color are you looking at? Its hard to find a manual g sedan. Post pics when you buy your car!

I definetly will! I'm hoping Black or White, and yeah finding a 6MT sedan is going to be very, very difficult. I'll start looking now and if i can find a 6MT sedan with low ish KM by Christmas, I'll be happy.

[dared3vil0]

UPDATE: I've been religiously looking, And to this day there has been 0 6MT sedans in my price range. Perhaps a g35X...

[falcon]

Buy my Miata.

[too_slow]

Import from Portland, OR.. NO tax

Just 6.1% duty when you cross the border

2005 Infiniti G35 Base 6-Speed Manual with Overdrive (http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/ctd/3275415470.html)

[T4RAWR]

3rd or 4th gen toyota 4runner or a 1st/2nd gen tacoma with all-terrain tires or a set of blizzaks/hakkas.

you already have a car/sedan :ilied:



although, if it must be a car i'm going to throw my chips in with the wrx crowd. :concentrate:

[dared3vil0]

So i thought i should update this, As i bought something; 2007 Civic Si Coupe (FG2) 70,000KM

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx27/dared3vil0/photo-19.jpg

[beproud]

good choice
reliable, low maintenance, and decent on gas. plus a 6speed helps eh

[Sky_High]

Burnaby Community & Continuing Education

Burnaby Community & Continuing Education | BCCEBCCE NavigationBCCE NavigationBCCE NavigationBCCE NavigationBCCE NavigationBCCE NavigationBCCE NavigationBCCE NavigationBCCE NavigationBCCE Navigation (http://www.burnabycce.ca/)

[makhna]

This (M coupe)

*** 2000 BMW Z3 M Coupe - Imola red on black - Mint *** (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/cto/3258806355.html)
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[ekcivy]

a newer 2.5 rs would be an awesome choice,and not too pricey either,or even an ek hatch seats fold down and youll have enough room for your gear

[polygoon7]

Forester XT. ftw

[SB7]

How about 02+ is300 or gs300/430?
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[T4RAWR]

no 4x4? :pokerface:

[320icar]

i think my suggestion will really help the OP.

suzuki x90?

http://www.art-cars.com/wburr/2712.jpg

[dared3vil0]

no 4x4? :pokerface:

Look at the thread date, It's from MONTHS ago, Before i was converted :D

[T4RAWR]

any luck? lol