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Looking to get into automotive scene - First car?
whEEls7
08-04-2012, 10:27 PM
Hey, I finally just got a fulltime job and this means I'll be able to afford my first /used/ car soon. I know it probably won't be the greatest car, so my expectations arent that high. I don't really want some crappy hatchback, but I don't really even have money to spend.
Do you guys have any recommendations for cheap, first cars that dont look like shit and maybe I'll be able to build upon them or resell them for close to what I paid later on? I know Integras are fairly cheap and they were on my radar because I sort of like the look, but I know very little about cars so I figured I'd just drop by to get a more customized look on vancouver's automotive variety
Energy
08-04-2012, 10:29 PM
Miatas are really popular right now. They are cheap, super fun to drive, look good, and are just plain cool.
whEEls7
08-04-2012, 10:31 PM
Miatas are really popular right now. They are cheap, super fun to drive, look good, and are just plain cool.
cant drive home drunk friends in a miata :(
AW607
08-04-2012, 10:32 PM
+1 for miatas, very lightweight, a lot of fun to drive and a lot of options once you get down the avenue of modding. I might have probably went for one if I didn't pick a honda
whEEls7
08-04-2012, 10:33 PM
+1 for miatas, very lightweight, a lot of fun to drive and a lot of options once you get down the avenue of modding. I might have probably went for one if I didn't pick a honda
Hmm, maybe I'll consider it a little more deeply, it does look like a cool car.
What year/model would you guys recommend? There's only a couple on CL for under 2G, I'm really not sure how much I should spend on this cause I don't have much. If I were to get a car like this, I'd probably keep it for a while and mod it later on
ilvtofu is selling his
http://www.revscene.net/forums/671043-fs-1990-mazda-miata.html
dared3vil0
08-04-2012, 10:57 PM
Under 2 grand? I'm sorry, but you're not going to get much at all, and what you do find is the last thing on earth that's worth modding. Honestly if your budget is 2 grand, You most likely don't have much money to spend on Gas, Insurance, Repairs, Mods, Etc. I would suggest you get something along the lines of a 90-95 Civic 5MT, and upgrade that later when you have more cash.
EDIT: Actually, this would be perfect. Just ignore the incredibly childish Craigslist ad. http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/ctd/3177628898.html
whEEls7
08-04-2012, 10:59 PM
What do you guys think about a bmw e34?
Shorn
08-04-2012, 11:01 PM
maintenance might be a little high. but great cars.
i'd suggest any rwd cars. if you honestly enjoy cars you'd quickly discover the limitations of fwd
dared3vil0
08-04-2012, 11:02 PM
What do you guys think about a bmw e34?
NO, no, and no. You have a miniscule budget, and your looking at an 88-95 5 series? You'll pay more for repairs/maintenance in the first year than you spent on the car in the first place (if you're still talking about a 2k budget)
whEEls7
08-04-2012, 11:05 PM
maintenance might be a little high. but great cars.
i'd suggest any rwd cars. if you honestly enjoy cars you'd quickly discover the limitations of fwd
I was just interested in it's reliability and the fact that I won't need to mod it much, plus it's a really nice looking car (90s e34s), I figured it'd be an option since it goes for around 4-6k
NO, no, and no. You have a miniscule budget, and your looking at an 88-95 5 series? You'll pay more for repairs/maintenance in the first year than you spent on the car in the first place (if you're still talking about a 2k budget)
Well don't take my 2k budget to heart, I can just hold off for a couple months and find something really nice and maybe have a 3-5k budget, but that's about it. I'm not familiar with insurance maintenance and repair charges at all and really have no concept of how much that's going to cost.
On the other hand, the miata is actually looking pretty nice right now. If it has modding potential like you said, how long do you think a 1990 would last? I'm only 19 now, and would at least like to have it til my mid 20s.
save up and buy something that really interests you... til then take the 50 passenger limo. and if Miata (or other cars) was out of the question in the beginning, don't let others sway you unless you are really sure about it yourself or else you will end up regretting it later.
im serious.
Depending if you're going to do your own maintainence or modify it down the road, getting an older rwd would definitely be a hell of a journey, although not cheap. With 2000$ an 88 - 95 civic sounds about right, cheap on gas, insurance, lots of aftermarket support and yes it's overdone and every other guy had one.. But I'd consider that more of a blessing than a curse when you're just starting out. Fwd can be fun too, there are limitations but rwd and awd have theirs too. At least civics can resell a little easier because of their low prices. If you get a more adventurous platform, just be willing to pay the expenses that come along with it.
Rwd: miatas, 240sx, corolla (rwd of course), rx7, mr2 all awesome money pits and all fun IMO
That being said, don't be one of those guys who asks for advice then completely ignores it and does the opposite. I think the general vibe is miatas are fun with lots of aftermarket support, and civics are cheap good starter cars for that 2000 budget
Edit: it'll last as long as you want it to last, my corolla is from 1984 and I plan on having it around for another 10 years
elwell
08-04-2012, 11:22 PM
you cant go wrong with a 240sx especially the 95+ coupe models
whEEls7
08-04-2012, 11:27 PM
thanks for the info guys
Where are generally the best places to find deals on these cars? I assume craigslist is one, but if it's like job hunting or even clothes, there has to be other places that have nice deals
AW607
08-04-2012, 11:39 PM
thanks for the info guys
Where are generally the best places to find deals on these cars? I assume craigslist is one, but if it's like job hunting or even clothes, there has to be other places that have nice deals
RS has some occasional advertisements every now and then, and if you take a look at who's selling it, it may be a good buy. I found my last couple cars off craigslist haha :fuckthatshit:
If you find what you like, then buy it; it's your money and you decide how you wanna spend it! Good luck with your hunt :thumbsup:
freakshow
08-04-2012, 11:53 PM
i would start with an S13 240sx.. great cars.
deals pop up on craigslist every now and then, you just have to know which ones are good deals, and you have to be a little patient. After you've spent weeks/months refreshing the same CL search seeing the same cars at the same prices over and over, you'll know when a good deal pops up
EmperorIS
08-04-2012, 11:56 PM
What about one of those first gen STIs? AWD :)
^Too pricey compared to the other cars listed...
My cousin has two s13's and I believe he is selling one around that price point. Let me know if you are interested.
whEEls7
08-05-2012, 01:19 AM
My cousin has two s13's and I believe he is selling one around that price point. Let me know if you are interested.
Sure, any pics?
lowda9
08-05-2012, 01:28 AM
I wouldnt look at s13's if you are looking for something that is reliable. Sure they may have been reliable once but that platform has been popular for a long time now as drifter cars and chances are it has been beaten to death by someone trying to drift it, hitting redline daily. That and they are probably beaten up body wise too by failed drifts. That said, if you do want to go for an s13, get an automatic as they are more likely to have been better taken care of.
I'd suggest 90-93 Integras for under 2k and reliablitly as well as great aftermarket support.
Gerbs
08-05-2012, 01:33 AM
Hows the maintenance compared with miata and 240sx? how long will these cars last if i get them as a first car?
insomniac
08-05-2012, 01:47 AM
I don't think s13's are that reliable... Miatas have cheap parts, cheap insurance and cheap on GAS. Don't want to be a shamless plug but ilvtofus miata is a pretty good deal because he replaced a lot of the stuff and his miata has an (iirc) fairly new clutch.
whEEls7
08-05-2012, 02:01 AM
I don't think s13's are that reliable... Miatas have cheap parts, cheap insurance and cheap on GAS. Don't want to be a shamless plug but ilvtofus miata is a pretty good deal because he replaced a lot of the stuff and his miata has an (iirc) fairly new clutch.
I was thinking about it, but 315000 kms is a lot
jpark
08-05-2012, 02:09 AM
his ad is deleted for some reason.. but 95 s14 and he was asking around 3g
http://www.revscene.net/forums/671813-1995-s14-240sx-aircared-stock.html
22 year old car, seems pretty normal to me
Gerbs
08-05-2012, 02:29 AM
Anyone know the avg km/tank for a miata? also anything important to look for when buying one?
whEEls7
08-05-2012, 03:24 AM
Yeah I think I'm gonna go for a miata too. I think I've fallen in love with them.
Hopefully I'll find something with 220ish kms max
bloodmack
08-05-2012, 08:18 AM
s13's are totally reliable, easy as hell to work on and parts everywhere. Reliability is up to its owner IMO.
GabAlmighty
08-05-2012, 10:43 AM
Volvo
SpeedStars
08-05-2012, 10:52 AM
Hmm... for under 2k, your choices seem quite slim. It's really a choice of cars that are at least 15 years old... Try searching craigslist and set your max price to 2k and see what comes up, that's usually a good way to find used cars at the price you'd like.
Also; I would recommend the Integra, good aftermarket parts and knowing that it's coming from Honda, the b18 can be quite powerful and reliable at the same time.
Didnt know the integra came with a b16
twitchyzero
08-05-2012, 11:00 AM
What about one of those first gen STIs? AWD :)
plenty of 2004 STi around for $2000..yes
S13's are really reliable haven't had an issue with mine except for the battery... big deal haha. any car isnt gonna be "reliable" if the previous owner beat it to hell
LP700-4
08-05-2012, 11:08 AM
Anyone know the avg km/tank for a miata? also anything important to look for when buying one?
Can anyone chime in also about the headroom? :okay:
I kinda want a miata but im 6'3 and only have a tiny bit of headroom left in a E46 M3
#Tallpeopleproblems
Convertible, problem solved :)
westopher
08-05-2012, 11:15 AM
e30s, mk2 jetta/gti, mk1 rabbit/gti. All fun, albeit not fast, however, fun is much more important than fast unless you are a serious track guy.
rps13
08-05-2012, 01:07 PM
perfect first car
http://www.revscene.net/forums/671697-fs-1990-mazda-miata-low-mileage-%242850.html
LP700-4
08-05-2012, 01:10 PM
Convertible, problem solved :)
Drive with my head sticking out and looking over the windscreen? :lawl:
donjalapeno
08-05-2012, 01:22 PM
Aznboi is selling his miata too...Pretty decent looking car for a starter
1990 Miata Cheap! Hardtop! (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/cto/3139636953.html)
Gerbs
08-05-2012, 03:33 PM
Can anyone chime in also about the headroom? :okay:
I kinda want a miata but im 6'3 and only have a tiny bit of headroom left in a E46 M3
#Tallpeopleproblems
http://ts2.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4772422292079189&id=4115e696a0ad320ece466e9999c27f7f
I smashed my head onto the roof of a fiat when it went too fast on a speed bump.
#tallpeopleproblems
ilvtofu
08-05-2012, 08:06 PM
Can anyone chime in also about the headroom? :okay:
I kinda want a miata but im 6'3 and only have a tiny bit of headroom left in a E46 M3
#Tallpeopleproblems
There should be enough headroom, I'm about 5'9 - 5'10 and the stock NA seat functionally has no headrest, frankly it's a little dangerous if you were to be rear ended. A racing seat should easily get you the headroom you need but they're generally wider than the stock seat and can't go as far back as you might need for your legs. A lot of people like to remove some of the butt foam from the stock seat which I hear works great.
I was thinking about it, but 315000 kms is a lot
yep... drivetrain is pretty healthy but the body is just meh. repairable but hasn't really been a priority.
Impressed by how easy the car is overall though, easy to fix, easy to afford maintenance/mod/insurance/gas, easy to drive
Here it is 3 weeks ago at mission, thought something was wrong with the engine but turns out it was just the heatshield rattling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjvYEJYd-ek&feature=plcp
too_slow
08-05-2012, 08:39 PM
240sx are slow, and owners feel they are worth a lot of $
I would highly recommend an Infiniti G20 / G20t
1999 Infinity G20 (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/3085440100.html)
SR20DE engine, really good seats, lots of creature comforts, good sporty ride, and more importantly, extremely reliable
jlenko
08-06-2012, 01:18 PM
For a first car... buy something you don't care about. If you're like most people, you'll end up hating it after a while anyway. You might be one of the many that end up doing crappy mods and hate those too.
Buy a cheap civic or crapalier and do it up. There's plenty of cheap parts around, and they're easy and cheap to fix when they DO break. I picked up a filthy dirty 2005 Sunfire for $1200 a few months ago... cheap and easy to sell for more than I paid, with a little TLC.
Volvo
This.
First car, no N licence yet, you want a Volvo 240 for $500-$1000.
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