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08-09-2012, 09:05 AM
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| Vancouver.ca website = 3 million dollars
WTF. 3 million for a fucking website? 2 million on the CMS, alone. Quote:
VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - It's a one-stop-shop for all your civic needs, but the price tag might have your jaw dropping.
The $3-million make-over of Vancouver's city website has some people questioning the huge cost.
NPA councillor George Affleck voiced his concern over the redesign of vancouver.ca and the overall cost of the project.
"My biggest challenge with spending $3-million on a website is the fact they've made Gregor Robertson the front and centre of the website," Affleck says. "That concerns me because we're really supposed to be a website for all of Vancouver and all of the council."
However, Affleck did defend part of the costs.
"The new website, a lot of [the cost] has to do with the back-end development of it. But I do feel $3-million is a significant amount."
In comparison to other municipalities' websites in the Lower Mainland, Richmond revamped its' city website a few years ago and a city spokesperson said it cost significantly less than $1-million.
The City of Vancouver collected data from people who use the website regularly before implementing the new design. New features include a number of municipal web-services such as neighbourhood pages, more information on parks, police, and the fire department.
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08-09-2012, 09:24 AM
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I guess Skinnypup needs a raise
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08-09-2012, 09:33 AM
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Having worked on smaller scale government websites before, I can't say I'm surprised. For an intranet site that didn't even have a CMS, I think the bill came out to around 100k because of the changes we had to make over and over again. They were disorganized and kept changing their mind; didn't help that they had the money to blow either. So we just kept charging them until they were happy.
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08-09-2012, 09:57 AM
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A worthy investment to give me information on building permits, recycling, and when I can water my garden.
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08-09-2012, 09:59 AM
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just throwing other peoples money out the window
and likely some fishy off the books accounting here and there
that or just a complete idiot that signed off on it
reminds me of this article about US Govt. wastefulness http://www.businessinsider.com/50-su...nt-2010-6?op=1
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08-09-2012, 10:02 AM
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A better way could be say hold a contest for computer sience stuidents and the best design wins and the winner can get a job with the Gov.
Save cost, enourage students to design something unique.
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08-09-2012, 10:15 AM
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#7 | | I told him no, what y'all do?
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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp  A better way could be say hold a contest for computer sience stuidents and the best design wins and the winner can get a job with the Gov.
Save cost, enourage students to design something unique. | very creative thinking...that's un-government-like
you wouldn't get hired 
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08-09-2012, 10:31 AM
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When shit breaks down, I guess you'll find someone in India to troubleshoot it cause it would be cheaper right?
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08-09-2012, 11:29 AM
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get a team from India to do this...will cost 50x less  | |
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08-09-2012, 11:49 AM
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LoL, $2M for CMS. We rebuilt our company website with CMS backend with one developer in like six months. Even with QA and everything, maybe two hundred grand at the extreme.
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08-09-2012, 11:58 AM
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Lol at 2 mill
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08-09-2012, 12:00 PM
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Is there a procurement process to see who lands the job to do the work? Or is this
in-house?
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08-09-2012, 12:01 PM
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2mil for a CMS!? Perhaps I'll give em 1.5mil for a wordpress template and save them 500k
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08-09-2012, 12:05 PM
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After bidding a bunch of Government construction projects over the last year I cannot say I'm surprised. It's like when it's tax dollars the skies the limit. The ridiculously expensive cosmetic items they put in today's projects makes me want to throw up as a tax payer. You almost never see these items in private sector jobs because they cost to much money and it's a waste.
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08-09-2012, 12:43 PM
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I wonder which agency did this... they must be laughing all the way to the bank.
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08-09-2012, 01:06 PM
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08-09-2012, 01:16 PM
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With that money spent they could cover the pot holes im east vancouver
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08-09-2012, 01:35 PM
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Taken from a comment on Vancity Buzz:
"I've been in the industry for over 6 years; I took a look through the code and it's very amature and sloppy work. Some of the things like the banner rotation, the dropdown menus are all free 3rd party scripts, not sure on each ones license and how that applies to a government site, if it's even legal to be using them. The CSS conventions used are just sloppy, they're not using efficient practices like sprites for all their icons, one of their CSS files even has a "Copyright (c) 2007, Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved." in it. The list goes on, and I'm just quickly going through things.
Even with the cost of servers this is not a 3mil project. It kind of infuriates me to see our tax dollars go towards workmanship such as this. Gotta call them out on this, Yellow Pencil Inc. seem to be the ones behind the contract. Seems as though they also do hosting, so I'm speculating they roped the city in to go with them, probably got reemed through that too. Yea, ok I can see where 3mil came from. Ridiculous."
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08-09-2012, 02:05 PM
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What the fuck...$3m? For a website?
Wow...all of us that work on the internet are vastly underpaid if that's true.
I have also never in my life visited the official website of Vancouver. There's no chance they get enough traffic to justify a $3m investment.
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08-09-2012, 02:30 PM
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I have visited the CoV website several times before....there is no real difference now. Same info, same general layout, same photos.....TOTALLY WORTH $3MILLION!!!!!!!!!!
Or, not.
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08-09-2012, 02:35 PM
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Wait, did they already did the work? I thought they were redesigning and the results will be out in a couple months. THIS COST $3m?! That is bullshit.
No, building a CMS from scratch wouldn't even cost $3m and I don't see any work on the site that justifies a $3m price tag. It's actually even sort of sloppy.
What they've done here is convince a bunch of hippies to say they charged $3m when they actually charged something like $100k and the rest goes to Gregor's hippie ass agenda so he do more wacky green things without pissing everyone off.
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08-09-2012, 02:37 PM
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I know VERY little about websites, etc...
They changed the domain from www.cityofvancouver.bc.ca to vancouver.ca.
How much would that cost?
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08-09-2012, 02:38 PM
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Depends on the cost of the actual domain, but I reckon not too much.
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08-09-2012, 02:41 PM
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believe it or not if you have a website name that a big company wants, they'll pay you quite a lot for it.
i don't remember which site it was but some guy had the name of a game title and it was bought from for 2.5 million.
ie. - starcraft3.com. blizzard will probably buy that from whoever owns it when starcraft 3 is released. of course, no one knows how long it's gonna be so the owner will have to continue paying monthly for that domain.
it's an investment.
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08-09-2012, 02:45 PM
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#25 | | I STILL don't get it
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Wow... even for big corporations spending 200-300K is usually the limit :/
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