[Roach]

Has anyone here made the transition from an STI (or something similar in power/torque) to an S2000?

I have a stage 2 '09 STI that I'm considering trading for a 2008 S2000. I recently got a company car from work so as a result, I only drive the STI on the weekends. I figure, for a weekend car, I could get something that is more... impractical. Something I may not be able to have when I settle down in the future.

That being said, I really love the STI. The power, utility and downright nasty garble of the exhaust are awesome.

I love the idea of a roadster and have always lusted for an S2000. The car is a modern classic that I would like to experience. That being said, I'm concerned that the drop off in power will be significant.

My only previous experience is driving an AP1 S2000 briefly. It had an aftermarket exhaust which sounded terrible and yes, it felt like it lacked some torque. That and I didn't get a chance to open it up into VTEC.

Has anyone else made a similar transition? Will I regret it? And yes, I will drive the AP2 but wanted some unbiased opinions.

Mine:

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s6/kkullar/STI/IMG_1589.jpg

The car I'd be looking at (same colour/spec)

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a337/ayemikey/IMG_0391.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a337/ayemikey/IMG_0401.jpg

Kev

[belaud]

You're going from tons of power, to no power, good handling, to amazing handling.

Its a trade off, its really your call on this.

My friend drives an S2K, has driven plenty of STI's and would still prefer the S2k just because of the handling.

On the other hand, my other friend owns an STI, he prefers that over the S2k because it has power

:lol

again, your call on what you prefer

[crazyazn]

Just a thought: Miata + LSx swap and additional suspension mods?

[ddalbowang]

AP2 has slightly better torque at low end than AP1

but still lack of power compared to STi

I had went a E46 M3 from S2k ... missed my S2k...

very well balanced car and gave me tons of fun to drive

[Energy]

If it is purely a weekend car and you don't need the practicality of the STI then go for the S2000.

You won't regret making the switch. You said you like the STI for the power, utility, and exhaust.

Power isn't everything. I went from an s2k to a tuned 335i that has way more power and torque but what's the point really? In the city I can barely use any of that power. Step on the pedal and I'm already heading towards an impound. With the s2000 the power is very useable and you can actually rev it to the redline and still be within the speed limit. Its true when they say that it is more fun to drive a slow car fast then to drive a fast car slow. And the first time you take a corner and feel how the car responds you will fall in love. My car now is sporty but it is heavy and with no LSD will never corner as nicely as an s2k. Honestly the way the s2k handles and the way it responds immediately to your inputs is just heavenly.

Utility, well you don't need utility for a weekend car. If it helps you can fit two sets of golf bags in the trunk and can carry a set of wheels and tires in the trunk and passenger seat if you need to.

Exhaust sound uhh the aftermarket for the s2k is very large. You'll be able to find an exhaust to your liking easily. Even without an exhaust the engine sounds racy and it screams as you get to the red line.

The s2k is such a fun car. I needed more practicality and a comfier dd so I had to let her go. Whenever I see an s2k driving around with the top down I can't help but feel envy towards those people... Really such a fun and special car. I could go on and on but then I'd take up a whole page.

[busdriverman]

i agree with Energy and everything posted so far.

i recently picked up an 06 s2000 and i am in LOVE! the way the car responds to corners is simply jaw dropping. i agree with the comments regarding the S' lack of power and torque, but do you really need a lot of power in the city or even highway? the handling and input & response from this car is amazing.

i come from an fg2 (2006 civic si) and have not looked back at the si since. you feel at one with the car

the S also gets a lot of nods and looks too =)

[busdriverman]

find a friend with an s2 and take it for a good spin. i GUARANTEE you that will be be grinning from ear to ear after a few corners

-clint

[Energy]

Oh one other thing the s2000 has a beautiful timeless design. It's a car that came out in 2000 but can still turn heads today. Simple and classy roadster proportions with a long hood and short rear end that isn't as round as a miata. Look at how low those front fenders are too, no modern car can have fenders like that anymore due to pedestrian safety crash regulations.

It also helps that there is no successor to the car so you will never be driving "the old model". You will just be driving an s2000. A special, purposeful, hand built car.

[JDMCivic]

i switch between my 09 STi and 06 s2k from winter to summer (vice versa). I fine myself missing the other car when I'm not driving it. S2k definitely feels more nimble and alive compared to my STi. That alone makes up for the lack of power. With a couple mods, the S2K will sound pretty awesome and with VTEC loud and clear you won't miss the boxer rumble too much.

[flagella]

For a weekend warrior, it's hard to beat s2k. You'll feel the lack of torque whether you're getting AP1 or AP2 since you're coming from STi. It's hard to beat driving top down on a beautiful day, not to mention the car is so nimble. It's a great car which is why I decided to keep mine. As long as you don't daily drive it, lack of torque shouldn't be a huge issue for you.

[FishTaco]

I went from 2001 s2k to a 2009 Honda Fit. Worst decision i have ever made hands down.

Now I have a Lexus SC300 twin turbo which is powerful, but I do miss the handling that the s2k produced. I had stock suspension too so I could only imagine how it would handle with upgraded suspension. *le sigh* :okay:

[jpark]

^haha and i know the new owner with your old s2000, and he seems to love it so much :D

[kakucaekz]

This thread really makes me want to buy an S2000.. If only I was a bit shorter :(

[asr]

You're going from tons of power, to no power, good handling, to amazing handling.

Its a trade off, its really your call on this.

My friend drives an S2K, has driven plenty of STI's and would still prefer the S2k just because of the handling.

On the other hand, my other friend owns an STI, he prefers that over the S2k because it has power

:lol

again, your call on what you prefer
I test drive s2k, sti and evo. I stick with the last two even though S2k handling is better.
I do prefer s2k looking as well

[jing]

Just a thought: Miata + LSx swap and additional suspension mods?

This

[asr]

^+1

[kakucaekz]

Oh, another thing you might wanna consider is visibility and being seen. Especially with all the stupid drivers in the GVRD, you gotta be cautious with a small car like the S2k. My car is about the same size, and there have been a few times people (usually SUVs and vans) have almost merged and sideswiped me just cuz my car is so damn tiny. And it's annoying not being able to see over any car, for traffic or whatever :lol:

[Energy]

That's actually true.

A lifted pickup actually didn't see me once and he drove right into me. His car was high enough that only his tire hit my front bumper and there was no damage. Also one guy rearended me as I was switching lanes to the right... I wasn't fully in the right lane yet and my left rear was still in the left lane but a guy in a white delivery van didn't notice and cracked my left tail light and bumper.

[kakucaekz]

SUV reversed into me, went partway up my bumper like a ramp. Guess he couldn't see me in his rear view or side mirrors. Nothing like a good old turn-around-and-look eh?

Just gotta be extra careful is all. I assume that everyone is an idiot on the road anyway, but it's so much more important driving around in a 4 foot tall car surrounded by C-lais and their BMW and Mercedes SUVs.

[Manic!]

If you have a small car install one of these: http://tricyclesforadults.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/M-Wave-Bicycle-Security-Flag.jpg

[death_blossom]

This thread really makes me want to buy an S2000.. If only I was a bit shorter :(

how tall are you? I'm practically 6ft tall and I fit into an s2000 nicely. I've have other friends at 6'2" drive their s2000's fairly comfortably as well (although pushing it).

I've been bugging a friend to let me drive his STi for a while now, as I've been a big Subie fan ever since the GC8 series way back when. I'll chime in with a comparison when that "test drive" finally happens, hehe. I sure do miss my s2k though. :(

[kakucaekz]

I'm 6'1 and a bit. I fit in my MR2 fairly well, but if my hair is long and done up, it touches the roof. It looks funny if you're behind me and you see a bit of hair sticking through the roof when I have the tops off :P

[ree666]

theres no transmission/shifter and driver feel like the s2000. tunnel+ top down+ 8 or 9k rip= :)

ps: this is how i look at it, when its nice out, YOU CANT WAIT to jump into the car and go for ride. it gives a positive spin to going to work i guess?

[trollguy]

hey kev, i still got that lead on the 18x10 SBC RPFs ;)

[optiblue]

If you must get a S2000, get a 2006. It's the last of the non drive by wires.

[lexluthor09]

2006 is the start of drive by wire.

[Energy]

Hey at least with the drive-by-wire you can get flashpro.

[jeffwilliams17]

When looking to buy an S2000, are there any issues or common problems to look out for?

Also why is it people try to avoid the newer drive by wire versions?

Thanks.

[JDMCivic]

s2ks dbw is really a non issue.

[lexluthor09]

When looking to buy an S2000, are there any issues or common problems to look out for?

Also why is it people try to avoid the newer drive by wire versions?

Thanks.

its not an issue, people feel that dbw limits them/disconnects them from the engine.

except honda did a good job on the s2k and most people who drove it can't even feel the difference. plus 06+ you can use flash pro, and depending on preference you get an outside temp gauge, maintenance minder, better seats, a little cubby hole under the passenger side, tpms, and vsa.

[JDMCivic]

tpms was not on 06 s2k in canada

its not an issue, people feel that dbw limits them/disconnects them from the engine.

except honda did a good job on the s2k and most people who drove it can't even feel the difference. plus 06+ you can use flash pro, and depending on preference you get an outside temp gauge, maintenance minder, better seats, a little cubby hole under the passenger side, tpms, and vsa.

[alsxe10]

I've sold my s2k for 3 years now, and since then I've owned, alot of cars. and the fact is. I could not find a car that feels so raw on the road compared to the s2k. I rather drive a slow car fast in the city compared to driving a fast car slow in the city. s2k is the best summer weekend car EVER! and the fact that its a top down car... damn! I want to buy one again

[DC5-S]

id keep the sti, shouldn't the handling be better on the sti since its AWD?

[rk604]

If you have another car, you'll love the S2000. I went through 3, and that's because I could only afford one car and was always going back and forth with comfort and fun. I think there's a lot of misconception with he s2k being impractical. I mean, in terms of luggage storage, the trunk has plenty of room, and the cockpit is nice and snug, just like a performance car should. I drove a friends STI and it felt nice in terms of putting around the city, thanks to the torque, but I'd still prefer the S2K just cause it's just more of a driver's car. I'm not saying the STI is not fun to drive, don't get me wrong, it's hella fun. But the STI is leaning towards more of a grocery getter with the performance add ons, where as the S2K is a performance car with ergonomic add ons.

Again, if you have another car to daily, the S2K is a perfect car to drive on the weekends. Haven't ran into anyone who's owned an S2000 that doesn't love it...I sold my 3rd one about a year and a half ago, and I still look for one every now and then since the gf has a comfortable car..

Oh and one more thing...you are gonna LOVE driving top down. It's the best in the winter time + touqe

[TOS'd]

^ Don't forget the northface bomber!

[Energy]

^^ Agree. One measure of how good the s2000 is is what owners and even previous owners have to say about the car. People who have never driven one or owned one will always be sceptical about the lack of power and supposed impracticality but those people don't understand the car.

Oh and winter driving with the top down is awesome! The air is so crisp and clean after it snows. Just make sure to wear a scarf.
http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr153/randomstuffaccount/bacaf1d7.jpg

[belaud]

id keep the sti, shouldn't the handling be better on the sti since its AWD?

:seriously:

[j604]

this thread makes me want a s2k

[jpark]

When looking to buy an S2000, are there any issues or common problems to look out for?

Also why is it people try to avoid the newer drive by wire versions?

Thanks.

for ap1's, diff is the main thing to look out for.. these ap1 diffs are weak super weak and can be pricey to replace, couple clutch drops/burnouts and its basically boom, gone.. so if the previous owner beat the shit out of it, its a big no no

im just going to switch mine eventually to an ap2 diff so i can do some burnouts and clutch drops everywhere :troll:

[afadafa]

Being an owner myself, I will certainly be biased, so I'll just say it now, it really is a fun car to drive. For me, it is the next best thing to also owning a bike since I can't afford both at the moment.

Personally, practicality isn't an issue because, luckily, all my friends drive 4-5 seater cars and whenever we go out, they would much rather pick me up than to pull straws for "who gets to sit in the trunk" lol. Though I feel like an ass sometimes, I can't help but grin at the fact that I am the one who gases up the least among my friends simply because they end up driving most the time in their effort to take one car and to save the world =).

Please visit http://www.s2ki.com/home/ for a boat load of information on everything you will want to know about the car. Many of the members are incredibly knowledgeable and willing to help too! Good luck with your decision!

[bb4srv]

I own an AP1. Compared to STi, it's definitely has less power. But when you're revving at 7500 to 9000 rpm......you brain will go weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, major endorphin rush!! Just to clarify, you're not going to have no power....just less compared to an STi.

Plus, you're not going to find another gearbox as good as the S2000 for the price. And of course, the handling. The thing turns on a dime.

The driving experience of the S2000 can't be compared to other. It's really a driver's car. The sensation of the S2000 is mechanically raw. You can hear the engine, exhuast drone (in a good way especially at around 4500 rpm), the sound of the differential rotating at start-up, and feeling of the gears being put in place. The driving position is perfectly aligned for the "general Asian". Seating position to the shifter is 90 degrees, distance to steering wheel is just right, peddle distance feels as it was custom made. You're sitting right beside the transmission and right behind you is the differential, as you're part of the car. The heat from the transmission will slightly seep through the centre console, that's when you know you're with the car. You really have to drive one to experience it.

That said. My S2000 is totally stock OEM. I believe changing any of the components, even an air filter, will make the whole intend of the car imbalance.

If you're looking for a S2000, I prefer the AP1 due to the 9000rpm, lighter flywheel, tighter suspension. Starting AP2, they have toned down the car due to people inability to drive and tend to spin out and crash. Only mod I done to my AP1 is a front strut car and the car is perfectly balanced! Best years are 2002 (start of glass rear window) or 2003 (last year of AP1). Good luck searching!

[SumAznGuy]

for ap1's, diff is the main thing to look out for.. these ap1 diffs are weak super weak and can be pricey to replace, couple clutch drops/burnouts and its basically boom, gone.. so if the previous owner beat the shit out of it, its a big no no

im just going to switch mine eventually to an ap2 diff so i can do some burnouts and clutch drops everywhere :troll:

This isn't true.
I owned my S for 5 years and in those 5 years I autoX'ed it and did many drag launches with 245 Hoosier A6's. You just have to get enough revs to spin the tires. If you bog it, that is when you risk blowing up the diff. The AP2 diff isn't that much different. Honda added a clutch delay valve on the AP2 so you burn out the clutch before blowing up the diff, so they thought.
A used rear diff is under $400 so it isn't that expensive.

Most common problems for S2000's include ripping of the soft top from opening and closing the roof. There is a TSB for it and is covered under warrenty on newer cars.

For AP1's, even non-lowered cars, there is an issue with the rear drive shafts that causes vibration when driving at high speeds.

Another common issue with the AP1, is the valve retainers failing. Quite common when the motor hits 100K. When they fail, the valve will fall into the motor and can do a lot of damage. EAsiest fix is to replace the valve retainers and clips with upgraded AP2 ones.

[Roach]

First of all, thanks everyone for all the insights and opinions. Took me a few minutes to thank most of you!

I drove the AP2 in question yesterday and it drives very smoothly. Unfortunately I have come to learn it has a $7800 declaration from a front driver side collision which has me a little irked. Otherwise, it's my dream colour combo.

My thoughts:

- I didn't feel an enormous loss of power. This after stepping directly out of the STI.
- The handling is sublime.
- The car felt so much smoother and manageable than the AP1 that I had driven. Then again that car has been modified and has a CEL so there may be a larger issue at hand.
- I'm not used to sitting so low. Yikes!

Not surprisingly, I have been given a lowball trade. If anyone is interested in a well maintained 2009 STI with a lot of goodies I have reduced it to $28k obo (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/3177866273.html). If not, I'm pretty certain I'll still go for it and trade it in.

Thanks for all the input everyone. I'll report back by the end of the week with something I hope.

Kev

[Energy]

Well the STI is ~550lbs heavier. And yeah you kind of fall into the car instead of stepping inside. Are you getting an S2000 now? Keep us updated!

[hi-revs]

Like everyone had said, the S is an amazing car.

Slightly similar to your situation- I actually went from an ap1 to an 07Sti.

I cant say i regret it, buy i do miss all those days and nights cruising with the top down. Despite what some people say about convertibles in Vancouver, I had my top down in the middle of a dry winter, windows up, heat on- and i was waaarm. WITHOUT a Northface,lol.

Handling/transmission/drivability/cockpit is superb as others have mentioned.
What other car can you get in the S2k's era with 50/50 weight balance,rwd,convertible,driver centered car, in its price range?

No one has mentioned this yet, but the top in the S is the fastest top ive ever seen in any car go from fully locked to fully open and vice versa.

But there are things like 4 doors and bigger trunk space that I needed, and that the S didnt provide.
Those are probably the only things youll miss aside from 300hp/turbo/boxer engine.

WHen i had the S, it was my DD all year long. Slapped on snow tires when we had snow, and it still pointed in the direction i wanted. Im talking unplowed streets here.

Its definitely a fun car to drive in the city.
Its lacking a bit on torque though. But anything over 4k, you wont even think about it having low torque.

If u dont need to transport big items, drive more than 1 person often, then you wont regret getting an s2k.

Its actually quite good on gas too.

[bb4srv]

The fast top thing is kind of subjective. It depends on how fast the person clips onto the hinges. For me, I take the extra time to ensure that both sides locks in simultaneously, so as to reduce the strain on frame of the soft top.

Yes, the S is very good on gas. If you drive it nicely, you can get approximately 11.5L per 100km or so.



No one has mentioned this yet, but the top in the S is the fastest top ive ever seen in any car go from fully locked to fully open and vice versa.

Its actually quite good on gas too.

[belaud]

The top on the S is faster then a lot of cars, my friend always brags to me about how he can open his top on a quick red light :lol

[Energy]

First of all, thanks everyone for all the insights and opinions. Took me a few minutes to thank most of you!

I drove the AP2 in question yesterday and it drives very smoothly. Unfortunately I have come to learn it has a $7800 declaration from a front driver side collision which has me a little irked. Otherwise, it's my dream colour combo.

My thoughts:

- I didn't feel an enormous loss of power. This after stepping directly out of the STI.
- The handling is sublime.
- The car felt so much smoother and manageable than the AP1 that I had driven. Then again that car has been modified and has a CEL so there may be a larger issue at hand.
- I'm not used to sitting so low. Yikes!

Not surprisingly, I have been given a lowball trade. If anyone is interested in a well maintained 2009 STI with a lot of goodies I have reduced it to $28k obo (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/3177866273.html). If not, I'm pretty certain I'll still go for it and trade it in.

Thanks for all the input everyone. I'll report back by the end of the week with something I hope.

Kev

Was the AP2 you looked at at OpenRoad Honda?

[Roach]

Correct. Do you know something about the car?

Kev

[Eff-1]

The fast top thing is kind of subjective. It depends on how fast the person clips onto the hinges. For me, I take the extra time to ensure that both sides locks in simultaneously, so as to reduce the strain on frame of the soft top.

Yes, the S is very good on gas. If you drive it nicely, you can get approximately 11.5L per 100km or so.

I'm getting 9.5L per 100kms in my AP2 :fullofwin:

[trollguy]

Kev, how did you like driving my STI? Pretty fun huh?

[46_valentinor]

i love my s2000 :QQ:

[Roach]

Well, I did it.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s6/kkullar/S2000/IMG_1689.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s6/kkullar/S2000/IMG_1683.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s6/kkullar/S2000/IMG_1686.jpg

The shifter, clutch, engine and chassis are something to experience. I look back at my original post and laugh at my hesitations now. Thanks guys for tipping me over the edge. This is the best car I have driven to date. Totally smitten.

I will miss the STI as it's a fantastic only car. Fortunately, I sold it to another long-time RSer. Can't wait to see what he does with it.

Kev

[belaud]

Congrats! AP2 S2k I see :)

Makes me want to trade in my STI for an S2K also :lol

[fd3]

id choose an sti > s2k anyday ; i regret even picking up an s2k tbh;p

[Energy]

Awesome switch! Glad we were able to convince you.

"Please take good care of your S2000, keep it by your side for long and enjoy it from the bottom of your heart. And share the quality and legacy of the S2000 with many friends so that the legend of the S2000 will continue for long” – Shigeru Uehara, the creator of the S2000.

Now go out there and soak up some sun (when it comes out).

And fwiw, you got the best color combo too.

[Roach]

Awesome switch! Glad we were able to convince you.

"Please take good care of your S2000, keep it by your side for long and enjoy it from the bottom of your heart. And share the quality and legacy of the S2000 with many friends so that the legend of the S2000 will continue for long” – Shigeru Uehara, the creator of the S2000.

Now go out there and soak up some sun (when it comes out).

And fwiw, you got the best color combo too.

Thanks Energy. To be honest you really said a lot of things that I could relate to. Another car I was considering was a 335i, and your comment about having so much power that it's difficult to use in the city really struck a chord with me. That and your own regret of having to move on from your S really made me think I have to try it.

Time to go for a drive!!

Kev

[Energy]

I just told you what every other s2000 owner would have said. That car is truly special and has the power to evoke an emotional response from its drivers which is a thing that cannot be said for a majority of the cars out there now.

Whether you own the car for 6 months or a year or 3 years you'll never forget the time you had it. Hopefully you enjoy the car as much as I did!

Now I'm remembering all the good times I had with my S :tears:

[bb4srv]

Excellent choice Kev. That AP2 looks really clean. Is it from dealership or private? Care to inform us how much you paid for it?

[46_valentinor]

i want to sell my s2000 these days....










to buy another s2000 =D

[jpark]

looks so mint

[Jason00S2000]

Well, I did it.
This is the best car I have driven to date. Totally smitten.



When I had supercharged my S2000, the first weekend I was running the 11 psi pulley, I nearly pooped my pants with excitement each and every time I floored it.

I miss that car.

I remember dozens of beautiful sunsets at my back, driving around with beautiful long haired young girls, carefree summer nights stealing kisses on the way back to my bedroom.

Beautiful colours, enjoy it! :D

[afadafa]

Congrats and enjoy! :)

[ree666]

pretty sure thats the one my buddy traded in, it was his weekend driver. congrats on the purchase!

[busdriverman]

man your car is something to behold! enjoy the top down weather while we still have it!

[Energy]

i want to sell my s2000 these days....










to buy another s2000 =D

At first I was like :okay:

Then I kept reading and :fuuuuu:

[j.f0ng]

Congratulations! That color combination looks great. Enjoy it! I saw your thread over on TCL and immediately switched over to RS to thank your post above. :fullofwin:

[sonick]

..

[vo_hantu]

Sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! White with red interior, very rare!!!

Consider removing the CDV? Makes a world of difference :) Congrats.

[z3german]

looks so sweet! i want one now!

[tofu1413]

saw the ad for that car...

low k's and is one mint AP2!

[AWDTurboLuvr]

Congrats Kev! Every enthusiast should be able to enjoy a S2000 once in their life.

[too_slow]

Reporting in from the TCL also.. LOL

Super jealous

[Roach]

looks so mint

Thanks! Trying to decide whether I want to go down the modding path yet. Something nice about having a mint stock car.


I remember dozens of beautiful sunsets at my back, driving around with beautiful long haired young girls, carefree summer nights stealing kisses on the way back to my bedroom.

Beautiful colours, enjoy it! :D

Jason you paint a nice picture man. Haha

pretty sure thats the one my buddy traded in, it was his weekend driver. congrats on the purchase!

Would love to learn more about the history of the car. YGPM.

Sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! White with red interior, very rare!!!

Consider removing the CDV? Makes a world of difference :) Congrats.

I am not sure if the prior owner has taken it out already? I've experienced a CDV once before on a Genesis coupe and don't notice anything like that sensation on the S. Is it a very subtle delay?

Congrats Kev! Every enthusiast should be able to enjoy a S2000 once in their life.

Thanks! I'm sorry I forgot your name. How is Montreal?

Reporting in from the TCL also.. LOL

Super jealous

TCLers unite!! Haha.

Kev

[Energy]

Thanks! Trying to decide whether I want to go down the modding path yet. Something nice about having a mint stock car.

Kev

For the love of god please no hellaflush. Your car is too nice for that.

[trollguy]

He's got 18x9.5s coming already :lol: or maybe something even wider! :o

[Araaadi]

Im jelly, I drove by that s2k a few times and always drooled.

[Roach]

He's got 18x9.5s coming already :lol: or maybe something even wider! :o

Haha shut up fool!!! No!!

Kev

[AWDTurboLuvr]

Thanks! I'm sorry I forgot your name. How is Montreal?

Kev

Haha, no worries, it's Steve. Montreal is awesome so far, but I'm glad I don't drive a lowered car here. It's like driving on the surface of the Moon..I don't think I've driven on a smooth road yet. Wouldn't mind a droptop to enjoy the summers here though.

[Qmx323]

Just rmb, 4WD to RWD....

Throttle regulation in rainy days and even more so on snow (obviously)

derp derp edit

[afadafa]

Just rmb, FWD to RWD....

Throttle regulation in rainy days and even more so on snow (obviously)

Since when were STIs FWD?

[OGCStrike]

Since when were STIs FWD?

maybe he ment " Four Wheel Drive" ? :ahwow:

[Qmx323]

LOL shiiit dude.

I meant to post that on the CIVIC to S2000 thread... instead.... this happens

[Sushi604]

Reading through old threads like this just made my day!

Sorry for the ol' bump.