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bballguy
09-07-2012, 05:42 PM
Thought I'd give this thread a shot; Discuss trades, pick-ups, injuries, player updates, etc. etc....
I'll start simply by posting my team and where in the draft I got each player in my 1/2 PPR league:
1. Darren McFadden RB - OAK (PICK 8)
2. Jimmy Graham TE - NO (PICK 17)
3. Darren Sproles RB - NO (PICK 32)
4. Dez Bryant WR - DAL (PICK 41)
5. Percy Harvin WR - MIN (PICK 56)
6. Jeremy Maclin WR - PHI (PICK 65)
7. Cedric Benson RB - GB (PICK 80)
8. C.J. Spiller RB - BUF (PICK 89)
9. Ben Roethlisberger QB - PIT (PICK 104)
10. New York Giants DEF (PICK 113)
11. Jacquizz Rodgers RB - ATL (PICK 128)
12. Alex Henery K - PHI (PICK 137)
13. Randall Cobb WR - GB (PICK 152)
14. Jon Baldwin WR - KC (PICK 161)
15. Josh Freeman QB - TB (PICK 176)
League settings are standard, other than 1/2 point per reception.
1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 Flex, 1 Defense, 1 Kicker with 6 on the bench.
bballguy
09-08-2012, 07:19 PM
Wow interesting that nobody here plays FF....I guess cause we're in Canada...
TPMarko
09-10-2012, 06:15 AM
this is the first year that i am not playing. just lost interest. peyton manning looked good yesterday. gonna be tough for colts fan to watch if luck doesn't pan out. RG3 looking real good too!
7seven
09-10-2012, 12:04 PM
In my circle of friends, acquintances and coworkers, NFL and fantasy football is huge. It's all anyone talks about, even more than NHL.
In 3 fantasy leagues and a survivor pool, heres my main PPR team (8 team league, h2h)
(8) Calvin Johnson
(9) Chris Johnson
(24) Ryan Mathews
(25) Mike Wallace
(40) DeMarco Murray
(41) Trent Richardson
(56) Vincent Jackson
(57) Doug Martin
(72) Demaryius Thomas
(73) Michael Vick
(88) Dwayne Bowe
(89) Reggie Wayne
(104) Tony Gonzalez
(105) Seattle
(120) Matt Prater
Post week 1 observations from my roster, watching the Bucs game, Doug Martin really impressed me, kid is good. CJ2k, was useless, he has been since holding out and getting his fat contract, but the Titans horrid oline and abandoning the run didn't help, I think I will sit him week 2 anyways. Vjack frustrated me, so many dropped balls. I'm putting in a waiver claim for CJ Spiller with Fred Jackson injured again, thinking of dropping Richardson for him.
On the betting side I had 6 parlay tickets out this weekend, only hit on 1 of them. Would've hit big on one of my money line ticket that I had upset picks of the Redskins and Niners, but the fucking Eagles fucked me playing like shit, especially Vick, vs a useless Browns team.
murd0c
09-10-2012, 12:12 PM
Went 2-0 yesterday in both of my leagues. I picked Matt Ryan with my 3rd pick out of 12 teams and all of my buddies were laughing at me for choosing him so early. The 32 points he got me last night gave me a pretty good laugh.
Here's my one team, had a live draft and I got to pick 9th. Got Megatron as my first pic and then I grabbed Demarco and then Ryan
Matt Ryan
Calvin Johnson
Percy Harvin
DeMarco Murray
Michael Turner
Aaron Hernandez
Josh Freeman
Garrett Hartley
Philadelphia
Bench
Vincent Jackson
Cedric Benson
Nate Washington
Greg Little
Dustin Keller
New England
7seven
09-10-2012, 12:20 PM
^^^ Ryan is going to be money this year, Falcons pass game with Ryan, Julio, Roddy and Gonzalez is insane, new greatest show on turf IMO. For that reason I think Turner is going to be a disappointment, he's been regressing every year too.
IMO Julio and AJ Green are going to be the next 2 star wideouts, up there with Megatron
murd0c
09-10-2012, 12:23 PM
Thats my thought exactly and why I picked him. It was either between Ryan or Vick and of course I had to go with someone I can relay on. Turner sure layed up some bricks yeterday hopefully he picks up next game cause I'm sure lacking a second decent RB right now.
LSF22
09-10-2012, 03:07 PM
Not in any special league... just the normal yahoo fantasy pool
did the auction draft this year.... not bad though I wish I got more depth
Budget $200
1. (5) Sebastian Janikowski (Oak - K) $2
2. (14) Antonio Brown (Pit - WR) $16
3. (59) Beanie Wells (Ari - RB) $4
4. (33) LeSean McCoy (Phi - RB) $45
5. (38) Andre Johnson (Hou - WR) $33
6. (48) Wes Welker (NE - WR) $31
7. (56) Antonio Gates (SD - TE) $19
8. (65) Brandon Lloyd (NE - WR) $16
9. (79) LeGarrette Blount (TB - RB) $1
10. (82) Tony Romo (Dal - QB) $13
11. (103) Shonn Greene (NYJ - RB) $3
12. (104) Baltimore (Bal - DEF) $3
13. (108) Owen Daniels (Hou - TE) $3
14. (109) Nate Washington (Ten - WR) $1
15. (119) Joe Flacco (Bal - QB) $3
Unused $7
dropped Blount right after though and picked up Ingram from waivers
bballguy
09-10-2012, 07:22 PM
Went 2-0 yesterday in both of my leagues. I picked Matt Ryan with my 3rd pick out of 12 teams and all of my buddies were laughing at me for choosing him so early. The 32 points he got me last night gave me a pretty good laugh.
Not sure why they'd laugh at you picking Matt Ryan in the 3rd round since that's exactly where his average draft pick was....
Here's my one team, had a live draft and I got to pick 9th. Got Megatron as my first pic and then I grabbed Demarco and then Ryan
Matt Ryan
Calvin Johnson
Percy Harvin
DeMarco Murray
Michael Turner
Aaron Hernandez
Josh Freeman
Garrett Hartley
Philadelphia
Bench
Vincent Jackson
Cedric Benson
Nate Washington
Greg Little
Dustin Keller
New England
How on earth did the best WR in the league drop all the way to 9th overall....
lol anyway, I like Ryan, Megatron, Harvin, Murray, Hernandez....Hernandez could even possibly end up being the top TE in the league this year....Not a fan at all of Turner this year; Freeman is w/e, a low-end QB2 right now IMO. Vincent Jackson will probably drive you crazy....one week he'll go off for 30FP, then next week he'll get you 5.....
zx7rrrr
09-10-2012, 07:34 PM
^
calvin johnson at 9th round? wtf
i was thinkin the same thing
heres my team
m vick
a foster
a peterson
andre johnson
d bowe
j maclin
a gates
r wayne
vince jackson
sidney rice
cj spiller (w)
a. morris (w)
san fran d
akers k
im leading so far. I had a big weekend . Im happy with my team barring injuries
bballguy
09-10-2012, 07:53 PM
^
calvin johnson at 9th round? wtf
i was thinkin the same thing
Not 9th round....9th overall...I didn't think he'd go past 7th in any draft.
heres my team
m vick
a foster
a peterson
andre johnson
d bowe
j maclin
a gates
r wayne
vince jackson
sidney rice
cj spiller (w)
a. morris (w)
san fran d
akers k
im leading so far. I had a big weekend . Im happy with my team barring injuries
How many people in your league? How was Spiller not drafted....I drafted Spiller in the 8th round and Alfred Morris was drafted in my league in the 13th round....
murd0c
09-10-2012, 07:54 PM
No clue what Megatron was left that long but boy was I happy. I actually think that I picked Ryan 2nd pick not 3rd but I'm pretty happy with my team. Makes football to exciting it's great.
bballguy
09-10-2012, 08:04 PM
No clue what Megatron was left that long but boy was I happy. I actually think that I picked Ryan 2nd pick not 3rd but I'm pretty happy with my team. Makes football to exciting it's great.
I feel ya....I have no idea how I landed RUN DMC at 8th overall....one idiot in my league picked AP 5th overall....Sure, he could very well end up being a top 5 fantasy player, but it's a stupid pick considering that his ADP was in the 3rd round....Could've easily gotten him in the 2nd round if he wanted to reach for him...
murd0c
09-10-2012, 08:36 PM
Second pick in my league was Gronk, so mindblown it was great
bballguy
09-10-2012, 09:59 PM
Second pick in my league was Gronk, so mindblown it was great
That makes no sense in any way whatsoever....What a retard.......He's not even the best TE....
BTW, try to buy low on Wes Welker, Trent Richardson, Jacquizz Rodgers, Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, Victor Cruz, and Hakeem Nicks after this weeks performances.....It's only a matter of time that Rodgers replaces Turner in the starting line-up.
If Randall Cobb is still available in your league, pick him up.
Sell high on Alfred Morris, Stephen Hill, James Jones, Shonn Greene, and Frank Gore.
7seven
09-11-2012, 06:55 AM
While Richardson is talented, my concern with him is he is the Browns only legit weapon, Weedon and McCoy are horrid, so opposing Ds will just keeping stacking up the box against the Browns making it tough sledding for an RB. Browns' oline is also pretty horrid and Richardson is probably 3-4 weeks behind everyone else with all the time he missed due to knee surgery. With CJ Spiller on waivers in my main pool, I think I gotta waive Richardson for Spiller
bballguy
09-11-2012, 07:49 AM
While Richardson is talented, my concern with him is he is the Browns only legit weapon, Weedon and McCoy are horrid, so opposing Ds will just keeping stacking up the box against the Browns making it tough sledding for an RB. Browns' oline is also pretty horrid and Richardson is probably 3-4 weeks behind everyone else with all the time he missed due to knee surgery. With CJ Spiller on waivers in my main pool, I think I gotta waive Richardson for Spiller
You have to keep in mind that he is coming off a preseason in which he didn’t practice much due to his knee scope. The fact of the matter is that he is pretty good and he is going to be the workhorse back and those guys are rare.
Also keep in mind that they were playing against a pretty strong Eagles defense and that their QB turned in an all-time inept performance....all these things make him a great buy-low candidate...He should turn in a much better game next week against the Bengals.
That said, I don't see who else you could drop....Based on your draft, your league has confused me....Why would you take Mike Wallace at 25...How does Murray drop all the way to 40....How does Vick drop to 73...Bowe at 89....Gonzalaz at 104...Most of these picks are going over 30 picks after when they should've been picked.....Are your league settings standard?
bballguy
09-16-2012, 05:27 PM
Like I said......Trent Richardson: 135 yards, 2 touchdowns.......
7seven
09-16-2012, 06:01 PM
That said, I don't see who else you could drop....Based on your draft, your league has confused me....Why would you take Mike Wallace at 25...How does Murray drop all the way to 40....How does Vick drop to 73...Bowe at 89....at 104...Most of these picks are going over 30 picks after when they should've been picked.....Are your league settings standard?
Standard yahoo scoring league, pretty standard league settings, no flex position. Took Wallace at 25 cause he has solid deep threat ability, bonus points for 40+ yd tds and I have a hunch he'll be playing hard for that new contract he's trying to get, solid 13.4pts for me today. Demarco I suspect dropped based on low sample size he had last year, others went for more proven bets. Vick actually dropped in a lot of leagues, with his injury concerns, many questioning his ability to even play half the year. Bowe surprised he slipped that low too but he was a holdout and having Cassels as his QB doesn't help and with WR options pretty deep this season. Gonzalez, a lot of people saved drafting TE till late rounds aside from Gronks/Graham/Hernandez, after that tier, lots of good TE in the same fantasy point ranges.
TRich had a good day, but personally would want to see him and specifically the Browns oline throw together some consistent weeks before having him as a weekly must start with my RB depth. At this point, CJ2k might need to get cut.
Up 10 points right now on my opponent, he has Hanson playing right now and Ryan tmw. I've got Megatron going right now and Thomas, Gonzalez and Prater going tmw, I should be safe. Seattle D (17pts) and Spiller (29pts) came up huge for me this week.
Hit on a $10 parlay ticket today, payout was $1,045, leading in my main fantasy league, my Seahawks won, good NFL weekend so far for me.
zx7rrrr
09-16-2012, 06:05 PM
spiller 2 td 130 yards
7seven
09-16-2012, 06:14 PM
spiller 2 td 130 yards
170 all purpose yards and 2 TDs for Spiller. Other fantasy studs this week, Eli, RG3, Reggie Bush and Dalton
bballguy
09-16-2012, 07:48 PM
170 all purpose yards and 2 TDs for Spiller. Other fantasy studs this week, Eli, RG3, Reggie Bush and Dalton
Hakeem Nicks, Victor Cruz, Danny Amendola, etc.
I lost this week by 1.6 fantasy points....It came down to my kicker, Jason Hanson who missed a field goal by hitting the post once, dropping down and then hitting the crossbar, and finally dropping out.......It would've given me 3 more points.....
McFadden and Dez were completely shut down as well which fucked me over.....
zx7rrrr
09-16-2012, 08:17 PM
Fucking ben tate took 2 touchdowns from my guy foster. Texans have scary running game
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bballguy
09-16-2012, 08:33 PM
Fucking ben tate took 2 touchdowns from my guy foster. Texans have scary running game
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You're going to see a lot of that this year....They are going to give Tate a lot more touches this season.
bballguy
09-20-2012, 09:33 PM
Shit, I knew I should've picked up Martellus Bennett.....I was going to pick him, but hesitated because I didn't need him (because I have Jimmy Graham), but was only going to pick him up so that nobody else could grab it....few days later, and sure enough, someone snatched him up...
LSF22
09-21-2012, 12:19 AM
Damn im gonna get destroyed cuz of Andre Brown tonight.....
LSF22
09-22-2012, 09:45 AM
Who should I start? (non-ppr league)
Mark Ingram vs. KC
Shonn Greene vs. Miami
Mike LeShoure vs. Titans
bballguy
09-22-2012, 11:26 AM
Who should I start? (non-ppr league)
Mark Ingram vs. KC
Shonn Greene vs. Miami
Mike LeShoure vs. Titans
I'd personally go with Ingram this week....Dolphins defense is surprisingly very good, shutting down 2 of the league's best RB's, so I don't see Greene doing much this week....Saints/KC should be a shootout, but hopefully Ingram will get a few goal line opportunities....
LSF22
09-22-2012, 11:36 AM
I was thinking him or Greene...
Greene cuz hes the main RB, I was iffy on Ingram since he'll prob be splitting carries/scoring with Thomas and Sproles....
bballguy
09-22-2012, 12:12 PM
I was thinking him or Greene...
Greene cuz hes the main RB, I was iffy on Ingram since he'll prob be splitting carries/scoring with Thomas and Sproles....
Sproles doesn't get carries.....In fact, he hasn't had a single carry in the last 2 games.....Thomas gets the bulk of carries, but what really sucks for Thomas since he's clearly the better player out of the 2 is that Ingram gets the goal line carries, making him a somewhat intriguing option...He could easily get a TD or 2 against this shitty Chief's defense...
But like I said....Miami held Foster/Tate to 85 rushing yards and DMC to 22 rushing yards...Can't see Greene doing much....
7seven
09-24-2012, 06:05 PM
So loud and insane @ centurylink, seahwaks D with 8 sacks already @ half time, amazing, GB oline is brutal.
I was down this week in my pool by about 10, with seattle d left while my opponent has GB d, I'm now up 3 pts currently, hopefully this holds.
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murd0c
09-24-2012, 06:12 PM
the game is crazy so far on tv talk about being lucky to be there in person. I heard the DT was just crazy for most of the day.
murd0c
09-24-2012, 08:00 PM
wow thats all I can say is WOW
bballguy
09-24-2012, 10:12 PM
lol, well i'll be dipped in shit....
LSF22
09-25-2012, 12:23 AM
Terrible fucking call.... no other polite way to put it
CharlieH
09-25-2012, 07:58 AM
rofl
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/561085_10152134485910615_1645526642_n.jpg
LSF22
10-06-2012, 03:34 PM
Taken from fucked up shit thread:
:lawl::lawl::lawl:
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http://i.imgur.com/9J0p1.png
http://i.imgur.com/YNY49.png
http://i.imgur.com/4lQ21.png
http://i.imgur.com/VEaPI.png
http://i.imgur.com/KeUvW.png
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bballguy
10-10-2012, 11:41 AM
Traded away DMC, Benson, and Dez a week ago for DeMarco and Julio Jones.....few days later and Benson goes down with an injury of the Lisfranc variety, keeping him out for at least 2 months....:ilied:
Anyone else make any trades yet?
murd0c
11-22-2012, 04:58 PM
ok I have a dilemma right now. Should I put coin purse in or Vincent Jackson? I have freeman as well but before he got hurt I have been getting really good production from him.
bballguy
11-23-2012, 01:50 AM
ok I have a dilemma right now. Should I put coin purse in or Vincent Jackson? I have freeman as well but before he got hurt I have been getting really good production from him.
Who is coin purse??....
murd0c
11-23-2012, 07:17 AM
Who is coin purse??....
Percy Harvin for the Vikings.
bballguy
11-23-2012, 08:11 AM
Percy Harvin for the Vikings.
I have him too....I'm not starting him, and he's probably going to be out anyway...That's an easy decision to go with V-Jax.
Here's my dilemma...who do I play at my flex spot:
Ronnie Hillman @ KC.....should get majority of touches against KC's horrible rush D
Hakeem Nicks Vs. GB....don't have much doubts about his health at this point, but still have doubts about how shitty Eli is going to be....
Danario Alexander Vs. Bal.....Absolutely killing it since he took over for Meachem only 2 weeks ago.
murd0c
11-23-2012, 08:35 AM
Nicks no questions asked
LSF22
11-23-2012, 12:21 PM
heath miller or gates this week? i know i cant trust rivers/gates but batch /miller isnt very convincing either....
bballguy
11-23-2012, 12:45 PM
heath miller or gates this week? i know i cant trust rivers/gates but batch /miller isnt very convincing either....
Miller won't do shit without Big Ben, who made Heath his favourite endzone target....Plus they play the Browns #1 TE defense, so I'd go with Gates and don't think it's remotely close.
bballguy
12-15-2012, 07:04 PM
Need to bench 1 of the following this week for the semi-final match-up in my fantasy league:
Danario Alexander Vs. Carolina
Randall Cobb @ Chicago
David Wilson @ Atlanta
Right now, I'm leaning towards benching Cobb, though I feel like I can't go wrong with any of these guys. What you guys think?
SkinnyPupp
12-15-2012, 07:25 PM
We should def start a fantasy league next season, I'll be down for sure!
bballguy
12-15-2012, 07:43 PM
Need to bench 1 of the following this week for the semi-final match-up in my fantasy league:
Danario Alexander Vs. Carolina
Randall Cobb @ Chicago
David Wilson @ Atlanta
Right now, I'm leaning towards benching Cobb, though I feel like I can't go wrong with any of these guys. What you guys think?
errr, I've got even bigger issues now....RG3 is out and I gotta grab a QB off the wire...
What's my best option?
Weeden vs Washington
Cutler vs Green Bay
Locker vs NYJ
Bradford vs Minny
Tannehill vs Jacksonville
What do?
murd0c
12-23-2012, 12:26 PM
stressed the fuck out right now. Playing the Championship game right now and most of my players are done for the day. Sitting at 120 with Murray and Hartley going into OT. The guy I'm playing only has 13 with Decker, cruz, Forte, Moreno, Kaepernick, 9ers d and Justin tucker left.
So stressed have 72 beer and $320 on the line.
zx7rrrr
12-23-2012, 12:53 PM
^
Im on the same boat..fucking arian foster shit the bed for me.
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murd0c
12-23-2012, 01:06 PM
The Texans shit the bed for you lol
murd0c
12-23-2012, 08:51 PM
I killed that shit today, now I have 72 beer and I don't even drink beer lol
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1760/41694410151157282180741.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/211/41694410151157282180741.jpg/)
bballguy
08-13-2014, 12:20 PM
Need 2 guys for a serious 12-team fantasy league with $60 buy-in...must be active on whatsapp on Monday nights/Thursday nights/Sundays...must be active in terms of making moves and negotiating trades.
1 QB
2 RB
2 WR
1 TE
1 TE/RB/WR
1 TE/WR
1 K
1 DEF
PM me if interested or if you have any questions.
murd0c
08-15-2014, 09:31 PM
My draft is next Friday but the draft order draft was today. I pick first and I have no clue who I should go with
sil-300
08-15-2014, 11:18 PM
My draft is next Friday but the draft order draft was today. I pick first and I have no clue who I should go with
I don't think you can go wrong with Charles....guy IS the KC offense.
bballguy
08-16-2014, 01:14 AM
My draft is next Friday but the draft order draft was today. I pick first and I have no clue who I should go with
PPR or no?
Comes down to LeSean McCoy and Jamaal Charles...can't go wrong with either, though I'd personally go with McCoy...ESPECIALLY in PPR...he's behind an elite offensive line, and playing for probably the league's most run-minded coach.
3rd pick would go to either 'All Day' or Matt Forte.
murd0c
08-17-2014, 08:29 PM
yup the league is ppt, I do like Charles but you are right about McCoy
7seven
08-18-2014, 06:05 AM
I don't have faith in Charles staying healthy, the guy seems to get banged up a lot. I would go McCoy if I had 1st pick even though Sproles is there now.
murd0c
08-18-2014, 07:14 AM
I was thinking about that one as well especially since he has a ankle sprain already... Man I can't stand picking first it drives me crazy
quasi
09-02-2014, 03:05 PM
Forget the head injury, Welker suspended 4 games for PED's.
bballguy
09-02-2014, 05:02 PM
lolz
Got 3rd pick tonight, half PPR, torn between AP and Forte....
murd0c
09-02-2014, 05:51 PM
I have a feeling that da Bears are going to have a great season this year
7seven
09-02-2014, 05:58 PM
Problem with Bears is their D can't stop anyone
bballguy
09-03-2014, 11:53 PM
FINALLLYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7seven
09-04-2014, 05:59 AM
Yup, NFL kickoff day!!!!!!!!!!!
Jonydakiller
09-04-2014, 07:34 AM
Go Packers!! (Biased due to fantasy)..
SkinnyPupp
09-04-2014, 07:38 AM
Been looking forward to this for weeks! :awwyeah:
murd0c
09-04-2014, 07:42 AM
Been looking forward to this for weeks! :awwyeah:
Weeks??? I have been excited since Feb :thumbs:
I have a feeling that da Bears are going to have a great season this year
Please.....
http://wpmedia.o.canada.com/2013/12/stiff_arm.jpg
:hotbaby:
SkinnyPupp
09-04-2014, 07:48 PM
Seahawks picking up where they left off! :awwyeah:
I don't know how long Thomas is going to last as the punt returner though :heckno:
Also I liked Clay Matthews but not after that soccer-like dive.. that was disgusting
sil-300
09-06-2014, 12:22 PM
Anybody making some bets this week?
I've got Broncos -8 (vs. Colts), 49ers -4.5 (@ Cowboys) and Bucs -3 (vs. Panthers)
Bender Unit
09-07-2014, 01:21 PM
Go Romo~
Jerry Jone is piss :troll:
fuhkyu
09-08-2014, 10:30 AM
Ray Rice's contract terminated by the Ravens after the video showing him knock out his fiancee was released
Ravens Cut Ray Rice - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/ravens-cut-ray-rice-2014-9)
quasi
09-08-2014, 10:39 AM
It will be interesting to see how the Vikes look against a decent team with there starting QB. They've been my team since I was the 80's but I only had them getting 5-7 wins this season, that said they look really good yesterday.
How frustrating is it in fantasy when you get the 2nd most points in your league but you just happen to be up against the guy who had the most.......Story of my life.
SkinnyPupp
09-08-2014, 10:53 AM
Ray Rice's contract terminated by the Ravens after the video showing him knock out his fiancee was released
Ravens Cut Ray Rice - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/ravens-cut-ray-rice-2014-9)
I was hoping they would because fuck that shit.
On the other hand, the rest of the team couldn't catch or carry at all for the first half of that game... I counted 5 dropped passes and of course Bernard Pierce was benched after a fumble. :heckno:
But yeah fuck Ray Rice. Glad I didn't buy his jersey after all (got Ngata instead)
7seven
09-08-2014, 11:16 AM
It will be interesting to see how the Vikes look against a decent team with there starting QB. They've been my team since I was the 80's but I only had them getting 5-7 wins this season, that said they look really good yesterday.
How frustrating is it in fantasy when you get the 2nd most points in your league but you just happen to be up against the guy who had the most.......Story of my life.
Cordarrelle Patterson is Percy Harvin Jr., but I can't see them winning more than 5 or 6 games either.
bballguy
09-08-2014, 01:34 PM
Wearing my Ray Rice shirt today for the last time. :lawl:
bballguy
09-08-2014, 06:10 PM
How frustrating is it in fantasy when you get the 2nd most points in your league but you just happen to be up against the guy who had the most.......Story of my life.
Should've played better defense breh:troll:
sil-300
09-09-2014, 10:39 PM
Has anybody here tried Fan Duels? Been seeing a lot of ads for it lately and decided to give it a try for week 2. I'm actually registered in a tournament started by "Turtle" from Entourage. lol
if anyone is thinking of signing up, i'd appreciate it if you used my referral link. PM me if you're thinking about trying it out!
SkinnyPupp
09-09-2014, 10:48 PM
Has anybody here tried Fan Duels? Been seeing a lot of ads for it lately and decided to give it a try for week 2. I'm actually registered in a tournament started by "Turtle" from Entourage. lol
if anyone is thinking of signing up, i'd appreciate it if you used my referral link. PM me if you're thinking about trying it out!
What is that?
sil-300
09-10-2014, 10:30 PM
What is that?
Basically its one week fantasy football based on a salary cap system. You build a standard size roster with a limit and each player has assigned values. You can play in all sorts of "contests/tournaments" - different size (10 team vs 30k), entry fee ($1-1000) and start date of the week. THey all have different prize structures, but simply put, if your scores within a certain threshold (say top 5% or something) you win $.
SkinnyPupp
09-11-2014, 12:48 AM
https://twitter.com/AP/status/509806406934204416
If this is true, the league is going to look VERY bad...
Ravens front office also claimed they didn't see the full video, but asked for it.
Manic!
09-11-2014, 03:28 AM
https://twitter.com/AP/status/509806406934204416
If this is true, the league is going to look VERY bad...
Ravens front office also claimed they didn't see the full video, but asked for it.
Yep it's true.
Ray Rice Knocked Out Fiancee - FULL VIDEO - YouTube
SkinnyPupp
09-11-2014, 03:45 AM
Yep it's true.
Ray Rice Knocked Out Fiancee - FULL VIDEO - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbwTMJroTbI)
What's true? That they lied about not seeing it?
7seven
09-11-2014, 06:45 AM
https://twitter.com/AP/status/509806406934204416
If this is true, the league is going to look VERY bad...
Ravens front office also claimed they didn't see the full video, but asked for it.
I think it's more likely that someone in the NFL office didn't pass it up the food chain or Goodell didn't want to see the tape so he could have an out for only coming down with a 2 game suspension. It just makes no sense why the Goodell didn't demand to see the tape before deciding on a suspension for Rice when everyone knew there was a tape out there.
fuhkyu
09-11-2014, 07:57 AM
I think it's more likely that someone in the NFL office didn't pass it up the food chain or Goodell didn't want to see the tape so he could have an out for only coming down with a 2 game suspension. It just makes no sense why the Goodell didn't demand to see the tape before deciding on a suspension for Rice when everyone knew there was a tape out there.
http://gamedayr.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/fire-roger-goodell-meme-1-570x387.jpeg
SkinnyPupp
09-11-2014, 08:19 AM
I think it's more likely that someone in the NFL office didn't pass it up the food chain or Goodell didn't want to see the tape so he could have an out for only coming down with a 2 game suspension. It just makes no sense why the Goodell didn't demand to see the tape before deciding on a suspension for Rice when everyone knew there was a tape out there.
I'm more concerned about whether the Ravens head office saw it or not (Goodell already seems like a scumbag anyway).. They said they didn't but now I don't know what to believe
SkinnyPupp
09-11-2014, 08:34 PM
Ravens have an O-line again! And a run game! :awwyeah:
Steve Smith is working out great, though I noticed 2 plays where his height seemed to prevent catches
Good comeback after a shitty game and week.
bballguy
09-11-2014, 10:40 PM
Wooh!
SkinnyPupp
09-12-2014, 05:12 PM
OK first Ray Rice beat his wife, now Adrian Peterson beat up an 11 year old boy
Adrian Peterson -- Indicted for Child Abuse ... Doc Reported Injuries (Photo Update) | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/12/adrian-peterson-indicted-for-child-abuse/)
:heckno:
7seven
09-12-2014, 06:17 PM
OK first Ray Rice beat his wife, now Adrian Peterson beat up an 11 year old boy
Adrian Peterson -- Indicted for Child Abuse ... Doc Reported Injuries (Photo Update) | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/12/adrian-peterson-indicted-for-child-abuse/)
:heckno:
Apparently it was his 4 year old son, hit his son with a tree branch repeatedly, AP admitted to it and is defending it as that is how he was raised when he acted out. Somewhere parents in China and asian parents are going, whats the big deal, while looking at the feather duster.
quasi
09-12-2014, 06:27 PM
Like being a Vikings fan wasn't already hard enough...........
Adrian Peterson -- Indicted for Child Abuse ... Doc Reported Injuries (Photo Update) | TMZ.com (http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/12/adrian-peterson-indicted-for-child-abuse/)
:heckno:
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SkinnyPupp
09-12-2014, 07:00 PM
Apparently it was his 4 year old son, hit his son with a tree branch repeatedly, AP admitted to it and is defending it as that is how he was raised when he acted out. Somewhere parents in China and asian parents are going, whats the big deal, while looking at the feather duster.
I was raised like that too, and I absolutely would never do that to my children. It's a shitty, stupid, lazy way to raise children, and it's how shitty, stupid, lazy people do it.
Bender Unit
09-14-2014, 12:52 PM
A lot of big name got injured today.
DeSean Jackson, Jamaal Charles both out
IMO, RGIII is done in Washington. Curt cousin is lighting it up & fit their system perfectly.
murd0c
09-14-2014, 01:14 PM
I'm crying about Charles right now
bballguy
09-14-2014, 04:47 PM
Rice to appeal suspension tomorrow.
sil-300
09-14-2014, 05:29 PM
Anybody going to the Broncos/Seahawks game next week?
SkinnyPupp
09-14-2014, 11:49 PM
Refs have been shitty in pretty much every single game I watched today, including fucking up replays (or not even watching them like the Harvin TD)
That being said, it was great to see the 49ers lose their home opener :thumbs:
7seven
09-15-2014, 05:55 AM
It was only a matter of time for Charles to get hurt, every year. I can't believe the Saints shitting the bed vs the Browns, all I needed going into Sunday to finish of a nice 6 game NCAA/NFL parlay was Pats -3 and Saints -6, but nope Rob Ryan had to go all retarded with his defensive play calling.
bballguy
09-15-2014, 11:28 AM
It was only a matter of time for Charles to get hurt, every year.
wat?...he's played the full season except for one since he's been in the league...so since 2008, he's been fairly healthy except for one injury back in 2011 or some shit...
quasi
09-15-2014, 11:46 AM
I'm crying about Charles right now
I know that feel, I missed him getting hurt because my cousin had come over. I sit down to watch the game and I'm like why the fuck is Davis running the ball, where is Charles? Davis again....what the fuck. Then I realize this isn't just a fatigue substitution.......
7seven
09-15-2014, 01:20 PM
wat?...he's played the full season except for one since he's been in the league...so since 2008, he's been fairly healthy except for one injury back in 2011 or some shit...
Yea while he's dressed for all the games, since his major knee injury in 2011 where he missed 14 games, he's had to come out of I believe 3 games early in 2012 due to other injuries and I believe 1 last year while and missing 1 and playing with nagging issues. It seems he's always getting banged up here and there with all these issues.
quasi
09-15-2014, 02:22 PM
Peterson back for next week, discipline on hold until after the court case. After seeing the photo's I wouldn't have had a problem with them suspending him for the rest of the year and this is coming from a Vikings fan. We see it all the time but money talks and he puts butts in the seats, Vikes want to limit the impact on there bottom line.
SkinnyPupp
09-15-2014, 08:39 PM
Peterson back for next week, discipline on hold until after the court case. After seeing the photo's I wouldn't have had a problem with them suspending him for the rest of the year and this is coming from a Vikings fan. We see it all the time but money talks and he puts butts in the seats, Vikes want to limit the impact on there bottom line.
I think they need to wait until he is formally charged.. You can't just suspend people based on TMZ pics.
bballguy
09-15-2014, 08:44 PM
I'm not a fan of people calling for Rice's and AP's heads....
48% of NFL player arrests for violent offenses come from domestic violence. Why aren't we calling for all their heads? 50% of women in the general public have reported being abused from a male partner - why aren't we calling for our coworkers to be fired? NFL players are humans with the same fundamental rights as everyone else. We have a justice system - which isn't perfect - but is the best method we have to adjudicate such matters and I don't think you should lose your job for domestic violence if an average person wouldn't.
AP was raised in such a way...he simply is disciplining his child the same way he was...Yeah, it's not how things are done nowadays, but he's simply doing what he thought was an effective way to discipline his child. Isn't teaching him other methods to do so a more effective way to deal with this situation than to call him a child abuser and call for his head? I think a ban, or even a long-term suspension from the NFL would be a ridiculous move by the NFL.
SkinnyPupp
09-15-2014, 09:55 PM
Great MNF game! Eagles are one of the teams I follow more closely, I really like their style of quick play and running offense
I also like to see Luck lose games.. Although it's excruciating to listen to commentators fellate him for 2 hours straight, that makes it feel that much better in the end after he throws picks and loses the game :fullofwin:
quasi
09-16-2014, 07:49 AM
I think they need to wait until he is formally charged.. You can't just suspend people based on TMZ pics.
He has been charged, he hasn't been found guilty yet but he doesn't deny hitting him. I get what you're saying, innocent until proven guilty it is a slippery slope for sure. Perhaps what I should have said was I wouldn't have had an issue if they did suspend him.
AP was raised in such a way...he simply is disciplining his child the same way he was...Yeah, it's not how things are done nowadays, but he's simply doing what he thought was an effective way to discipline his child. Isn't teaching him other methods to do so a more effective way to deal with this situation than to call him a child abuser and call for his head? I think a ban, or even a long-term suspension from the NFL would be a ridiculous move by the NFL.
This doesn't carry any weight for me, it doesn't matter how you were raised it doesn't excuse it. Vick was raised around dog fighting, no leniency was shown for him nor should it been. If someone was sexually abused as a child and then started sexually abusing their kid should they be treated with kiddie gloves because it's what they know? An extreme example but I really don't think it's that far off.
He's beat his kid, he's admitted to beating his kid whether he's been found guilty or not we all know he did it. I don't know what the punishment should be, I don't think his career should be over but I do think there needs to be some repercussions. I'm a huge AP fan on the field, I'm a Vikes fan, I have 3 Peterson Jersey's my son has Petersons Jersey's he's my favorite player in the league but I have no problem admitting what he did was full retard.
bballguy
09-16-2014, 01:28 PM
This doesn't carry any weight for me, it doesn't matter how you were raised it doesn't excuse it. Vick was raised around dog fighting, no leniency was shown for him nor should it been. If someone was sexually abused as a child and then started sexually abusing their kid should they be treated with kiddie gloves because it's what they know? An extreme example but I really don't think it's that far off.
He's beat his kid, he's admitted to beating his kid whether he's been found guilty or not we all know he did it. I don't know what the punishment should be, I don't think his career should be over but I do think there needs to be some repercussions. I'm a huge AP fan on the field, I'm a Vikes fan, I have 3 Peterson Jersey's my son has Petersons Jersey's he's my favorite player in the league but I have no problem admitting what he did was full retard.
What I'm trying to get at is that I think it's ridiculous that people are calling for Rice and AP to be banned for life. While I think what both have done is HORRIBLE, I think taking their livelihood away from them with no chance for redemption is a bit harsh.
I personally love dogs more than I love people, and even I have come to forgive Vick for what he's done. I believe he's sorry, and he's done what it took to redeem himself.
The same opportunity should lie ahead for AP and Rice...If they truly seem remorseful for their actions, a more reasonable punishment involving a medium-term suspension and anger-management/parenting classes should be put in place for them.
I'm only talking about how I feel the general public should feel about the situations. While what each has done is horrible, a first offense should not be unforgivable. That said, if the general public ends up looking at these acts as unforgivable, it obviously makes sense that the NFL bans him for life and that his endorsements get suspended as at the end of the day, that just comes down to making money.
SkinnyPupp
09-16-2014, 11:01 PM
Vikings are losing sponsorships, and Peterson is as well.. He lost Castrol and apparently Nike are removing his products from their stores. Anheuser Bush issued a statement that they are unhappy with how NFL is handling things
So yeah, maybe they should have just canned him like the Ravens did :heckno:
bballguy
09-16-2014, 11:34 PM
The Vikings announced early Wednesday morning that they're placing Adrian Peterson on the Exempt/Commissioner's Permission list, requiring the running back to stay away from the team until further notice.
There's no mandatory length of stay on the list, but the Vikings indicated that Peterson would remain there "until the legal proceedings are resolved." Clearly, that suggests it'll be more than a one- or two-week matter.
Meanwhile....The NFLPA has officially filed an appeal on Ray Rice's indefinite suspension.
"The NFLPA appeal is based on supporting facts that reveal a lack of a fair and impartial process, including the role of the office of the Commissioner of the NFL. We have asked that a neutral and jointly selected arbitrator hear this case as the Commissioner and his staff will be essential witnesses in the proceeding and thus cannot serve as impartial arbitrators," reads the statement. It's just a formality at this point. Rice's hearing should be held within 10 days. Even if his suspension is reduced, Rice won't be playing in the NFL this season.
quasi
09-17-2014, 08:37 AM
The Vikings message board was shut down because the owner of it didn't like the way the Vikes handled it. I went to log in and it's down, did some searching looks like it's gone for good he's not bringing it back.
This has been blown up, the only thing worse then what AP did is how it was handled by the Vikings. I'm sure the original plan was finish the season and drag the court proceedings out until the off season but now they'll have to try and get it settled as soon as they can. IMO it's like 50/50 if he plays another game as a Viking, they may be forced to move him once it's resolved.
bballguy
09-17-2014, 09:54 AM
Schefter reports the Vikings "intend to bring back" Adrian Peterson once his legal case is resolved.
Fantasy owners of A.P. are left in the dark as they wait for the court's decision. It's worth noting Peterson is a first-time offender with no known criminal background, so it's entirely possible he merely gets a slap on the wrist for punishing his son too harshly. Peterson's first court hearing is not until October 8, but expect his attorneys to push hard for a quick resolution.
7seven
09-17-2014, 02:31 PM
Even once his court case is resolved, AP is expected to face a suspension from the NFL under the personal conduct policy, so I would not be shocked if he has played his last game as a Viking.
here we go again
NFL Running Back Jonathan Dwyer Reportedly Investigated for Domestic Violence
Yet another NFL player is dealing with repercussions from a domestic abuse incident, the fourth such case to come to light this week. Arizona Cardinals running back Jonathan Dwyer was reportedly arrested for domestic violence on Wednesday, according to a report from 3TV anchor Tyler Baldwin. Dwyer was questioned by Phoenix police about an incident that occurred between he and his wife "a while ago." His wife kept "the records of her injuries" from that unspecified time.
According to CBS News, Dwyer was charged with aggravated assault and preventing someone from calling 911.
NFL Running Back Jonathan Dwyer Reportedly Investigated for Domestic Violence - The Wire (http://www.thewire.com/national/2014/09/another-nfl-player-jonathan-dwyer-reported-charged-with-domestic-violence/380394/)
DavidNguyen
09-21-2014, 06:56 AM
Rooting for Denver today
Bender Unit
09-21-2014, 03:43 PM
Freaking exciting games in Seattle
Go Denver~
SkinnyPupp
09-21-2014, 10:25 PM
Fuck that was an exciting game! GO HAWKS!
Fuck the Broncos, fuck the 49ers, fuck the Steelers (going to watch that now!)
SkinnyPupp
09-25-2014, 07:59 PM
This game dedicated to the RG3 haters
SkinnyPupp
04-25-2016, 09:00 AM
Tom Brady's federal appeal [which allowed him to play the entire season last year] has been denied, and his suspension will take place (http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/25/federal-court-reinstates-new-england-patriots-bradys-suspension-over-deflategate-ruling.html) this season
Kreygasm
pastarocket
04-25-2016, 09:37 AM
Tom Brady's federal appeal [which allowed him to play the entire season last year] has been denied, and his suspension will take place (http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/25/federal-court-reinstates-new-england-patriots-bradys-suspension-over-deflategate-ruling.html) this season
Kreygasm
Yeah a co-worker sent me an article from cbc.ca about the suspension being upheld for Brady. That dude is a Seahawks fan. I'm a Patriots fan. You can see what kind of troll job that guy was trying to set up for me.
Then I reminded that colleague that his Seahawks defence could not stop Tom Brady in Superbowl 49, and protect their 24-14 lead during the game. Brady threw 2 TDs, with league approved balls of course, to beat Seattle. :lawl:
Honestly, I don't think Brady will give a rat's ass at the end of his career what NFL fans or the media will say about Deflategate, Spygate, or any cheating controversy associated with his Patriots. All that talk about tarnished legacy, blah, blah, blah, will mean squat because he still has four Superbowl championships.
Tom Brady will just show those rings to the media pundits and sour grapes fans to tell them to shut the fuck up. :troll:
You also can count on Tom to get his lawyers to appeal the ruling even if it needs to be escalated all the way up to the U.S. Supreme Court. :troll:
SkinnyPupp
04-25-2016, 06:44 PM
I'm just glad that the athletes are being held accountable for cheating, even ones who are literally the biggest stars in the history of the sport.
I have nothing against Brady as a person or a player, I just think if you cheat and try to cover it up, you should get suspended. And he is! FeelsGoodMan
H.Specter
05-13-2016, 10:46 AM
https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/v/t1.0-9/13087740_1123027074415963_6384906263170781693_n.pn g?oh=398613ae7849b0bd0ccf11d49fc69977&oe=57A7EE39
quasi
08-30-2016, 04:00 PM
For fuck sakes, as a vikings fan this sucks donkey dick.
Vikings head coach Mike Zimmer said there is no timetable for Bridgewater, though it's possible he will be ruled out for the season, per Ian Rapoport of NFL Network. Zimmer said Bridgewater's chances of playing don't "look good right now," per Gregg Rosenthal of NFL.com.
Zimmer called Bridgewater's knee injury "significant" and said the quarterback is still undergoing tests at the hospital, according to Tom Pelissero of USA Today.
Teddy Bridgewater Injury: Updates on Vikings Star's Knee and Recovery | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2659487-teddy-bridgewater-injury-updates-on-vikings-stars-knee-and-return)
vitaminG
08-30-2016, 05:32 PM
sucky time for QBs, romo busted up again, broncos have siemian as a starter, brady suspended...
quasi
09-03-2016, 04:38 PM
Vikings traded for Bradford and did they ever give up a lot. If he can stay healthy and manage games it should work but Bradford never stays healthy..........I don't know, I'm very pessimistic but there better with him then without him.
SkinnyPupp
09-03-2016, 05:47 PM
Their season was a write off anyway after Bridgewater got hurt. Bradford is mediocre at best when healthy. Feel bad for their fans
bcuzracecarz
09-04-2016, 12:59 PM
Go Jags #seriouslytho
pastarocket
09-11-2016, 07:43 PM
Patriots win against the Cardinals! Good game by Jimmy Garoppolo and RB LaGarrette Blount.
That WR Larry Fitzgerald played one heck of a game.
A buddy wrote the Pats off with no Brady and no Gronk for this game.
-cannot wait to troll him. LUL
-strange to see the Arizona coach use his two last two timeouts so quickly with four minutes left in the fourth quarter. -not a good move when you look back at the game.
SkinnyPupp
09-19-2016, 08:00 AM
Their season was a write off anyway after Bridgewater got hurt. Bradford is mediocre at best when healthy. Feel bad for their fans
I take it back! Sam looked great last night! I still wonder if he can stay healthy though
Bender Unit
09-19-2016, 08:37 AM
I take it back! Sam looked great last night! I still wonder if he can stay healthy though
Sam Bradford did looks fine yesterday connecting with Diggs.
but A. Peterson is down FailFish
On the other hand, Damn New England with they great Coaches.
Jimmy Garoppolo 3 TD before done with the season
Won the game with 3 tier QB
:rukidding:
Settle Russell Wilson just don't like Jimmy Graham period
He didn't even look at his side of the field.....
hurt to see they don't utilize this lethal weapon
Just Trade Him, please.
SkinnyPupp
09-19-2016, 08:39 AM
Fucking Patriots DansGame
quasi
09-19-2016, 11:36 AM
Yup, Peterson torn Mencius. The Vikes do have McKinnon and Asiata, they aren't totally screwed they are both serviceable backs. Teams probably aren't going to stack the box like they do with AP back there but that might work to there advantage.
Cleveland Browns lose another QB, maybe they can sign Manziel he already knows the system. :)
Bender Unit
09-19-2016, 01:57 PM
:fullofwin: New England name Julian Edelman No. 2 QB
pastarocket
09-19-2016, 04:00 PM
:fullofwin: New England name Julian Edelman No. 2 QB
Edelman played QB in college at Kent State. Although he has the talent to read the D-line and throw a football, I hope Belichick will just run the ball more on offense using Blount instead of relying on the rookie Brissett to pass.
murd0c
09-19-2016, 05:21 PM
I think Edelman will do just fine if he needs to go QB, the biggest question is should I keep him in as WR for my Fantasy team or keep Amar Cooper in?
https://youtu.be/mZorFWMalTY
SkinnyPupp
09-19-2016, 06:50 PM
https://i.imgur.com/eReJXH6.jpg
LUL
pastarocket
09-22-2016, 07:34 PM
Complete domination by the Patriots on offence, defence and special teams. :fuckyea:
The Texans did not have a possession in Patriots' territory until late in the third quarter.
Belichick out coaches the opposition again. What a system. :thumbsup:
#SilenceTheHaters LUL
SkinnyPupp
09-23-2016, 01:30 AM
That was a brutal fucking game to watch. I did not expect the Texans to suck so hard. Wow
The league doesn't stand a chance until Belichick retires.
#SilenceTheHaters LUL
Do people wonder why everyone hates pats fans? FailFish
quasi
09-23-2016, 09:08 AM
Anyone else questioning how good Brady actually is? I've always thought he was one of the best QB's in the last 20 years but now seeing what these other guys are doing in the Hoodies system I'm curious.
murd0c
09-23-2016, 10:54 AM
I honestly think he is that good except he's lucky being in that system. These other QB's sure aint passing the ball like Brady does which makes me think that way.
SkinnyPupp
09-23-2016, 06:19 PM
If Brady was playing the score would have been 54-0
They played to Jacoby's strengths and hid his weaknesses as much as possible. Defense stood on its head. Houston failed as much as they possibly could on special teams.
SkinnyPupp
09-23-2016, 10:13 PM
https://twitter.com/Trags/status/779385135774982145
Time for them to win with a WR throwing the ball
And I bet they will.. Then Brady comes back, plays a month, gets a bye... Basically the perfect setup to go 16-0 and say fuck you to Goodell LUL
quasi
09-24-2016, 08:12 AM
https://twitter.com/Trags/status/779385135774982145
Time for them to win with a WR throwing the ball
And I bet they will.. Then Brady comes back, plays a month, gets a bye... Basically the perfect setup to go 16-0 and say fuck you to Goodell LUL
Wow, and I thought my Vikes have been unlucky this year.
Jonydakiller
09-24-2016, 11:10 AM
http://s17.postimg.org/4b1j5cdmn/IMG_20160923_WA0000.jpg
quasi
09-25-2016, 07:21 PM
That Vikings defense is for real!!! #SKOL
SkinnyPupp
09-26-2016, 02:13 AM
Vikings and Bradford have been fun to follow. Same goes for the Eagles and Carson Wentz!
Blaine Gabbert has to be the worst starting QB in the league, right? Holy shit he sucks
SkinnyPupp
12-11-2017, 07:28 PM
I swear I posted here that Carson Wentz was going to get himself hurt by playing like a dummy. The way he throws his body out there, even worse than Cam Newton. Well he tore his ACL making a running TD play (that was called back due to penalty) and is out for the season
He had been better this season but still had moments of recklessness, and you knew it was going to happen sooner or later
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