[unit]

on oak around 49th i saw a northbound wreck involving a ferrari f40. it was totalled! almost cried.
anyone else know anything about it? happened around 6pm

havent ever seen an F40 in person and the only one i saw was smashed, front corner had some damage and the rear was pretty totalled.

[BoySupra604]

http://www.revscene.net/forums/673404-2012-luxury-supercar-weekend-2.html

Breaks my heart to see one go like that.

[TOS'd]

http://www.revscene.net/forums/673404-2012-luxury-supercar-weekend.html#post8024799

[vyrospec]

http://www.revscene.net/forums/673404-2012-luxury-supercar-weekend-2.html

has been alerted by fellow members already, sad day :(

Edit: beat me to it

[TOS'd]

2nd place!

[Jgresch]

2nd place!

2nd is only the first loser.

[Shorn]

there was an accident at that intersection yesterday too. around 6 as well

be careful when you drive there guys. i'm always around there and i've seen probably 10+ accidents all in that intersection. people just love rushing the yellow and left turners always think they'll stop.

[afadafa]

omfg, my favorite supercar of all time too...='( RIP, hope the driver was okay though

[monkeywrench]

Darth Vader NO! - YouTube

MY CHILDHOOD DREAM! NOOO

[kwy]

There was a 250 GTO that crashed at a race a couple years ago. The funny thing is that the car is worth so much, the damage wouldn't have even affected the value much, if at all. The F40 is obviously very rare and pricey as well, I wonder if the situation is similar to some extent.

[asian_XL]

I wonder how much icbc will pay him

[kwy]

I don't think ICBC covers most high end cars in the 100k range, much less an F40. Cars like this are usually covered by private insurance companies.

[BillyBishop]

^

For newer cars: ICBC | Own-damage coverage for luxury vehicles (http://www.icbc.com/luxury-vehicles)

[Traum]

Wrecked Ferrari F40 - YouTube

Anyone knows the story behind the accident?

[LP700-4]

^

For newer cars: ICBC | Own-damage coverage for luxury vehicles (http://www.icbc.com/luxury-vehicles)

But IIRC it has collector plates. Wonder how thats gonna work out.

[MindBomber]

Yes, it's badly damaged, but to say it's 'totaled' is a huge stretch.

Any car with any amount of damage can be repaired, whether or not it makes financial sense is the mitigating factor; the value of an F40 makes a write-off very unlikely.

Case in point: a F40 with more severe damage, fully repaired and back on the road.
Ferrari F40 | Powered by Bosch Service Andres Salzgitter Ferrari - Sportwagen (F40/F50) repariert günstig Bosch - Service Andres. Ob Testarossa aus Maranello, Oldtimer oder Maserati (http://www.ferrarif40.de/index.php?id=ferraridiashow)

[Senna4ever]

I wonder if the factory can rebuild it?

[asian_XL]

did it hit a tree or something? from the video it looks very repairable

[Inaii]

$500,000 Ferrari F40 Crashed After Someone Foolishly Drives It In The Rain (http://jalopnik.com/5941824/500000-ferrari-f40-crashed-after-someone-foolishly-drives-it-in-the-rain?utm_campaign=socialflow_jalopnik_facebook&utm_source=jalopnik_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)

it made it's way onto Jalopnik apparently

[sonick]

With the fresh rain after a dry spell, all the power and turbo lag, no electronic safety features and sport tires, I give the driver the benefit on the doubt that he wasn't doing anything too remotely stupid when he crashed.

Just read that he was coming home from the car show, so it wasn't like he took it out purposefully in the rain.

[TOS'd]

2nd is only the first loser.

:okay:

[Great68]

$500,000 Ferrari F40 Crashed After Someone Foolishly Drives It In The Rain (http://jalopnik.com/5941824/500000-ferrari-f40-crashed-after-someone-foolishly-drives-it-in-the-rain?utm_campaign=socialflow_jalopnik_facebook&utm_source=jalopnik_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)

it made it's way onto Jalopnik apparently

I get a kick out of the author telling the F40 owner what he should or shouldn't be doing with his car.

Yeah it's a rare car, but it's HIS rare car and he can do whatever the fuck he wants with it.

[unit]

yeah basically just that, "what an idiot" attitude that usually spawns from jealousy.

[skyxx]

I wonder if the factory can rebuild it?

It'll most likely be sent back for Ferrari for repairs. It definitely looks very repairable.

[originalhypa]

yeah basically just that, "what an idiot" attitude that usually spawns from jealousy.

I think the attitude comes from the fact that the guy destroyed a super rare classic car. He's not important. But the car is a piece of history. The car had meaning and history, which is now tainted.

I'm not jealous of the guy. But I do think he's an idiot for destroying a classic supercar because of a little wetness on the road. It's fucking Vancouver, based in a Pacific rain forest. It's not LA where the rain is a surprise.

[kwy]

I do respect that the guy actually drives the damn car. It's meant to be driven and enjoyed, not hidden in a garage forever.

[originalhypa]

Fair enough.
But when the rain hits while driving a car that is notorious for being difficult to drive in the dry, then it's not the right time to put your foot into it.

I have a 400+ whp muscle car and an STi with big turbo and similar specs, and I guarantee that I drive them with respect if it's raining. Especially the muscle car with high torque and RWD. This guy is an "aficionado", not a driver. Sometimes they're the most dangerous squids out there.

[RonaldTypeR]

So I know there have been a lot of speculations on what caused this accident. Anyone know what REALLY happened? I just heard a different story of what might have happened..

Apparently the owner is a neurosurgeon , and he was drunk yesterday. He was smart enough not to drive his car, so he called his sister-in-law to come pick up the car and drive it off Van Dusen. Sister-in-law never drove one of these, so making a left on Oak, she punched it a little hard, road was damp, F40 lost control, hit a pole, and we know the rest.

Anyone else heard this version? My source is somewhat reliable, but who knows, I wasn't there when it happened!

Either way, that car was one of the few cars that caught my attention in there on Saturday. It is my ultimate dream car after all. Sad to see this happened! :( Hope it can be restored back to its original shape.

Ronald

[Phil@rise]

I dont drive my truck in inclement weather and thats with only 350hp and good tires on it not bald race tires. That guy is an idiot.....

[unit]

So I know there have been a lot of speculations on what caused this accident. Anyone know what REALLY happened? I just heard a different story of what might have happened..

Apparently the owner is a neurosurgeon , and he was drunk yesterday. He was smart enough not to drive his car, so he called his sister-in-law to come pick up the car and drive it off Van Dusen. Sister-in-law never drove one of these, so making a left on Oak, she punched it a little hard, road was damp, F40 lost control, hit a pole, and we know the rest.

Anyone else heard this version? My source is somewhat reliable, but who knows, I wasn't there when it happened!

Either way, that car was one of the few cars that caught my attention in there on Saturday. It is my ultimate dream car after all. Sad to see this happened! :( Hope it can be restored back to its original shape.

Ronald

jesus christ dude i hope that story is false! i would rather just sleep in the damn car then let someone else drive it.

[unit]

I dont drive my truck in inclement weather and thats with only 350hp and good tires on it not bald race tires. That guy is an idiot.....

it wasnt raining all day, it just started a few hours before the accident. i dont think the guy planned to drive in the rain, but when you gotta go to a car show and spent the whole week prepping the car, what are you supposed to do, not take it to the show because the forecast says it might rain later? the whole week was dry and sunny.

[Great68]

I get the provenance of the F40, but it's unbelievable how so many people are so emotionally attached to a car they don't own and that they'd flame this guy like he actually crashed THEIR car.

[Jgresch]

Everything at this point is hear say. Wait for the real story maybe...

Also he had to drop the car off mid day Friday an let it stay there until Sunday evening. On Friday I'm sure the weekend forecast was fine.
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[sonick]

+1, there are SO many conflicting stories at the moment of who's car it was, who was the driver, even road conditions it's unfair to really point the finger at anybody.

[vafanculo]

Its all speculation right now. Instead of calling the driver an idiot, let's just say he either ran over a banana peel, or hit with a red shell
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[Iron Chef]

As I said in the other post, this is what went down

As vehicles were doing the roll out, the said owner was the driver. He was doing burn outs and donuts on the grass, given the calibre of cars in the general vicinity and the fact that your in van duesan garden that's pretty douchy behavior

So after you roll out, you exit onto 37th, he went east and then north on oak, the tried to get around car on oak and lost it where is spun into a tree or pole. He basically lost it going down a straight road at 80km...lol.. In terms of road conditions it was damp as it started to drizzle at that point, it was around 6 ish so it wasn't dark but it was cloudy, road conditions weren't great but not horrible. He was deffinatley younger like late 30s east Indian. They served alcohol at this event.... So u know....

At the worst he was hammed, at best he can't drive in a straight line.

[originalhypa]

I get the provenance of the F40, but it's unbelievable how so many people are so emotionally attached to a car they don't own and that they'd flame this guy like he actually crashed THEIR car.

Are you telling me that if you saw a mint 68' Cobra Jet smashed after ogling it at a show, that you wouldn't be upset?

Are you dead inside, or just really, really high?


it's unfair to really point the finger at anybody.

There are no accidents, only collisions.
That said, I feel confident pointing a finger at the driver in a single vehicle collision. There are very few excuses that could ever justify him ripping this thing into a pole on a public road.

[observer]

The key with these older cars is the proper tires. Rubber hardens and becomes extremely slippery after 5 years regardless of the mileage.

[i-VTEC]

Found a pic on ferrarichat

Is this the driver on the cell phone?

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/SebringSilver/7F4FC0E5-4D37-49C8-87E7-674124F6995B-1132-000000BCB436364E.jpg

[Great68]

Are you telling me that if you saw a mint 68' Cobra Jet smashed after ogling it at a show, that you wouldn't be upset?

Are you dead inside, or just really, really high?



Obviously I would think it sucks, but I wouldn't be pissed off AT the guy.
It's not like I can afford a mint original cobra jet anyways, so it really doesn't affect me in the grand scheme of things. Actually everyone else who owns one would be loving the guy, because the value of theirs just went up.

I'm not sure why I can't have that opinion without being high.

[Harvey Specter]

Found a pic on ferrarichat

Is this the driver on the cell phone?

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/SebringSilver/7F4FC0E5-4D37-49C8-87E7-674124F6995B-1132-000000BCB436364E.jpg

Lol, that guy doesn't look like no neurosurgeon to me. I remember spotting this car in YT and the owner looked persian.

[westopher]

Lots of people seem to think that the second rain touches the ground, supercars explode. Yeah the car is fast, and raw, but its not like you couldn't possibly drive it, especially if its your car, and you are familiar with it. Single vehicle accidents are driver error, unless he was driving a "prius with a stuck accelerator" I feel no sympathy for the guy, but I'm also not going to be part of a witch hunt either. It doesn't change my daily life.

[dsot]

:ohgodwhy: Poor F40....

[boostfever]

I get the provenance of the F40, but it's unbelievable how so many people are so emotionally attached to a car they don't own and that they'd flame this guy like he actually crashed THEIR car.

this is a car enthusiasts forum, of course people are emotionally attached to cars such as F40. what do you expect? people get upset over kim kardashian breaking up with her bf or something?

[Eff-1]

I do respect that the guy actually drives the damn car. It's meant to be driven and enjoyed, not hidden in a garage forever.

Maybe i'm the only one here who thinks this, but if I had a classic car like that, I can't say I'd ever have the desire to want to drive it in traffic. I'd pay for the track days and have fun at my own expense. But Oak Street in the rain??? Forget it.

You're fortunate enough to own a piece of automobile history. It's valued at close to $1M (I think) and only going up in value. There's no way I'd ever risk taking something like that into traffic. Not because of driver ability, but more because you never know what can happen. Sure, put it on display and let others enjoy seeing it. But that's what flat decks are for.

At the end of the day, who cares who's fault the accident was. You could be sitting at a light and get rear ended. Your car is still destroyed and you're left with a huge loss.

[Dylan K]

So I know there have been a lot of speculations on what caused this accident. Anyone know what REALLY happened? I just heard a different story of what might have happened..

Apparently the owner is a neurosurgeon , and he was drunk yesterday. He was smart enough not to drive his car, so he called his sister-in-law to come pick up the car and drive it off Van Dusen. Sister-in-law never drove one of these, so making a left on Oak, she punched it a little hard, road was damp, F40 lost control, hit a pole, and we know the rest.

Anyone else heard this version? My source is somewhat reliable, but who knows, I wasn't there when it happened!

Either way, that car was one of the few cars that caught my attention in there on Saturday. It is my ultimate dream car after all. Sad to see this happened! :( Hope it can be restored back to its original shape.

Ronald

Got this from a pretty reliable source. "I spoke with the owner, he wasn't driving it. No one was injured, single car accident. Light rain, slick tires, and inexperienced driver played a major role"

I watched the car leave the show with a younger male driving the car. The guy in the photo above was in the passenger seat.

[twitchyzero]

Maybe i'm the only one here who thinks this, but if I had a classic car like that, I can't say I'd ever have the desire to want to drive it in traffic. I'd pay for the track days and have fun at my own expense. But Oak Street in the rain??? Forget it.

You're fortunate enough to own a piece of automobile history. It's valued at close to $1M (I think) and only going up in value. There's no way I'd ever risk taking something like that into traffic. Not because of driver ability, but more because you never know what can happen. Sure, put it on display and let others enjoy seeing it. But that's what flat decks are for.

At the end of the day, who cares who's fault the accident was. You could be sitting at a light and get rear ended. Your car is still destroyed and you're left with a huge loss.

^flat bed it everywhere?

If you are that paranoid that your appreciating-valued car is going to get wrecked...just keep it purely on display then...what's to say it won't get totaled at the track...may be you can argue it died while performing it's best :ilied:

[mb_]

^I lol'd

Keep in mind this happened AFTER the show. It didn't start raining till around like 3:30pm and the weather was really nice on Friday and Saturday. Glad the owner and passenger are okay. A heartbreak nonetheless, one of my favorite cars of all time. :tears:

[MindBomber]

Are you telling me that if you saw a mint 68' Cobra Jet smashed after ogling it at a show, that you wouldn't be upset?

Are you dead inside, or just really, really high?


A Ferrari F40 is a production engineered machine, just an assembly of infinitely replaceable components. Once the F40 is repaired it will no longer be 'original', but a very small percentage of cars hold that title indefinitely, and usually only because they're tucked away in a garage unappreciated. I don't see the accident as a great loss, if anything, a character building scar for the owner and car.

A life was not lost, nor was an irreplaceable creation; I don't see why anyone would be upset.

[Harvey Specter]

Just from an investment stand point I would be pretty choked because the owner will most likely take a hit if the car is written off. And I wouldn't want to keep the car and have it repaired because of the hit you'll take when the car is considered a "rebuilt". It's a shitty deal anyway you slice it.

[NoiZeeBoy]

Rumors are terrible.
To those interested, after I spoke to a very good friend who is a service manager at Ferrari Maserati of Vancouver, the person who had that unfortunate accident is an elderly gentleman who had his vehicle at the show and simply struck a pole and he claimed he didn't see it until the last second.
I think he should be commended for taking that car out and sharing it with the public, his unfortunate accident is likely the result of old age and some misjudgement.
We all should be so lucky as to never get to that stage in life where we can no longer enjoy the passion of cars; what brings us to sites and forums like these.
He obviously loved to share his car with others. I did the same for the first time at Connor's Day, like so many of us did.
Too bad the car is damaged, but there are greater losses in life that are impossible to replace.

[Teriyaki]

Front page news on autoblog now.

[Jgresch]

Rumors are terrible.
To those interested, after I spoke to a very good friend who is a service manager at Ferrari Maserati of Vancouver, the person who had that unfortunate accident is an elderly gentleman who had his vehicle at the show and simply struck a pole and he claimed he didn't see it until the last second.
I think he should be commended for taking that car out and sharing it with the public, his unfortunate accident is likely the result of old age and some misjudgement.
We all should be so lucky as to never get to that stage in life where we can no longer enjoy the passion of cars; what brings us to sites and forums like these.
He obviously loved to share his car with others. I did the same for the first time at Connor's Day, like so many of us did.
Too bad the car is damaged, but there are greater losses in life that are impossible to replace.
Wasn't an elderly gentleman...
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[k3mps]

I thought he was the guy in the pic.
I remember there being a pic of the same car with the plate B23-097 on here with a brown guy of the same stature with another passenger

[boostfever]

"...who had his vehicle at the show and simply struck a pole and he claimed he didn't see it until the last second."

am i the only one who can not make any sense of this? It doesn't really matter anymore, but I just can't imagine how someone doesn't "see" a pole on a curb.

Moving on...

[westopher]

If you don't just see a pole, on the sidewalk, you shouldn't be driving, never mind be driving basically a fucking race car. Sidewalks are for walking, once you get on one in the car, clearly going 60+km/h, even before you hit a pole, something is going quite wrong.

[StylinRed]

well as has been noted looks like he's got tyres as close to slicks as possible on and it was wet out sooo... kinda expected no?

[asian_XL]

Rumors are terrible.


cool story bro, it must be his son who took it out for the show and vtech kicks in yo.

Even 4 tires with no tread would not go out of control like this if it is being driven under speed limit

[NoiZeeBoy]

Elderly=50+
Brown= maybe, didn't ask/didn't tell
Shitty tires for wet Vancouver roads=yes

All the other points are the main reason I posted.
Bottom line; lets hope a similar thing never happens to us in our days with our ride.
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[Iron Chef]

So basically what your saying is you were never there before,during or after the accident, you talked to a buddy who knows a buddy that knows a buddy and you want to call us out for starting rumors?

I'm inclinded to say you don't know what your talking about , so gtfo


:failed:

Elderly=50+
Brown= maybe, didn't ask/didn't tell
Shitty tires for wet Vancouver roads=yes

All the other points are the main reason I posted.
Bottom line; lets hope a similar thing never happens to us in our days with our ride.
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[freakshow]

Rumors are terrible.

<A rumor of what happened>

:facepalm:

[604STIG]

Just wondering how this guy being "Brown" or not affects anything that happened in this story?

[smoothie.]

Just wondering how this guy being "Brown" or not affects anything that happened in this story?


:ifyouknow:

[boostfever]

Just wondering how this guy being "Brown" or not affects anything that happened in this story?

just clarifying he was not Asian.

[NoiZeeBoy]

So basically what your saying is you were never there before,during or after the accident, you talked to a buddy who knows a buddy that knows a buddy and you want to call us out for starting rumors?

I'm inclinded to say you don't know what your talking about , so gtfo


:failed:

No that's not it at all.
I'm not calling anyone out. Just saying rumors are terrible. My "buddy" is, as I said, a service manager at FMOV who has info first hand about a situation due to the repairs that this car will encounter.
You need to relax my friend, just hate to see people get all messed up when facts aren't present. You weren't there either? Were you?
I have no idea about the real facts, at this point the question is moot.
BUT,
your unsolicited comments to me are juvenile and pretty f-ing stupid, so why don't you GTFO, azzwipe.

[sonick]

lol Global reports VPD says it's a woman:

Global BC | Woman wrecks Ferrari on Vancouver street (video) (http://www.globaltvbc.com/woman+wrecks+ferrari+on+vancouver+street+video/6442713103/story.html)

[G-spec]

WHo fckin crashed this car!!?? Mugshot of said asshole and gtfo if your source is "buddy"
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[NoiZeeBoy]

Lots of angry ppl up in here man! wow!

[LP700-4]

So many rumors going around.

Heres one from a YouTube comment


There actually is a reason to hate the owner. I live in Vancouver and know quite a bit about this accident. The driver who works for a showroom was driving extremely recklessly from the minute he got in the car. He drove off the curb and scraped it like a son of a bitch, didnt't give a fuck, just floored it down the street and a minute after, karma caught up to him. Unfortunate for the car, but this was no accident.

FreeKickBeasts

If thats the case then i dont feel too bad for the owner. For the car though :tears:

[02'topaz]

Wow, incredible how much false information is present in this thread. The true story is the one already posted about a neurosurgeon being the owner and the sister in law being the driver.

[mb_]

Listen to Jgresch everyone lol
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[E_Fahlman]

I wonder if that's the F40 owner is that dide from Washworld is Surrey; I believe he owns one.

[E_Fahlman]

Don't forget to mention the Woman who crashed the C63 as well!!!
Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG crash in Vancouver was second at Luxury Supercar Weekend - Autoblog Canada (http://m.ca.autoblog.com/2012/09/11/mercedes-benz-c63-amg-crash-in-vacnouver-was-second-at-luxury-su/?icid)
Obviously less of a heartbreak than the F40 but still sucks!
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[frostycc]

Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG crash in Vancouver was second at Luxury Supercar Weekend (http://ca.autoblog.com/2012/09/11/mercedes-benz-c63-amg-crash-in-vacnouver-was-second-at-luxury-su/)

Second crash after the show.

"On approximately 1:30 on Sunday September 9th, this Merc was exiting the Luxury Supercar weekend venue on an overcast but dry portion of the day. The female driver missed the photographer's BMW by a few centimetres but managed to plow into a parked Nissan Pathfinder so hard it crunched into the Benz S550 4Matic in front of it"

[marksport]

Will the value of this car change once it's rebuilt? Is the owner going thru insurance to fix it or is he wealthy enough to pay for the repairs himself? Such a rare and valuable car that it may likely be repaired.

[LP700-4]

Don't forget to mention the Woman who crashed the C63 as well!!!
Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG crash in Vancouver was second at Luxury Supercar Weekend - Autoblog Canada (http://m.ca.autoblog.com/2012/09/11/mercedes-benz-c63-amg-crash-in-vacnouver-was-second-at-luxury-su/?icid)
Obviously less of a heartbreak than the F40 but still sucks!
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Best part is the excuse

She claimed to have been distracted reaching for something and was casually talking with B.C. provincial insurance company I.C.B.C. about her dilemma. She even indicated that she wanted to drive her Benz away but others convinced here with all of that oil on the ground leaking from her car, it might not be the best idea.


:lawl:

[Jgresch]

Will the value of this car change once it's rebuilt? Is the owner going thru insurance to fix it or is he wealthy enough to pay for the repairs himself? Such a rare and valuable car that it may likely be repaired.

Value will be affected yes.

I'm guessing he will go through insurance so he won't take a several Hundred thousand dollar hit all at once. Time will tell though.

[E_Fahlman]

Can carbon fiber even be fixed? I know the body is only made of 11 carbon fiber panels thanks to James May!!!
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[Ronin]

There's no way that F40 is getting repaired for less than the value of the car...

[Hakkaboy]

So I know there have been a lot of speculations on what caused this accident. Anyone know what REALLY happened? I just heard a different story of what might have happened..

Apparently the owner is a neurosurgeon , and he was drunk yesterday. He was smart enough not to drive his car, so he called his sister-in-law to come pick up the car and drive it off Van Dusen. Sister-in-law never drove one of these, so making a left on Oak, she punched it a little hard, road was damp, F40 lost control, hit a pole, and we know the rest.

Anyone else heard this version? My source is somewhat reliable, but who knows, I wasn't there when it happened!

Either way, that car was one of the few cars that caught my attention in there on Saturday. It is my ultimate dream car after all. Sad to see this happened! :( Hope it can be restored back to its original shape.

Ronald

Wow, incredible how much false information is present in this thread. The true story is the one already posted about a neurosurgeon being the owner and the sister in law being the driver.

Ferrari F40 scrape (5 mins before crash in vancouver) - YouTube

Oh really? This guy must be one hell of a video editor then

[AndM]

^ The person screaming yolo like a little girl :facepalm:

[Phil@rise]

it wasnt raining all day, it just started a few hours before the accident. i dont think the guy planned to drive in the rain, but when you gotta go to a car show and spent the whole week prepping the car, what are you supposed to do, not take it to the show because the forecast says it might rain later? the whole week was dry and sunny.

So they were driving a race worthy car with bald dry weather tires in bad weather and even if they werent speeding did something stupid.....Idiots by my standards.

[Redlines_Daily]

using a business account to call someone an idiot. Idiot by my standards.