[JulyZerg]

I just encountered one dumb fucktard today, I was traveling Westbound on Highway #1 towards Vancouver and this silver E90 325 BMW was in front of me. This was RIGHT before Kensington Exit(By 8 rinks I believe). I was keeping a pretty far distance away since I was on the right lane and I wasn't in a rush. I definitely wasn't tail-gating or not even close to.

So the BMW in front is quite a ways ahead and I see him brake, so I brake as well. I'm not going to mash the brake pedal for no reason and come to a complete stop cause we're on a Highway and I wasn't sure if their was someone behind me. So I brake and slowly press down on it, thinking he would either change lanes or at least see the cones/pylons in front. I press on the brake harder as my car got closer and at the end, he was fully STOPPED in the middle of the highway(or right side/slow lane) and I had to press the brakes HARD and ABS kicked in, luckily I missed hitting him/her but I swerved to the right and hit one of those big pylons/cones and now theirs like 4 scratches on my right bumper, not a dent, just 4 huge scratches..FUCKING HELL

Why the fuck couldn't he see the cones from a mile away and decided it was a good idea to fully stop your car in front of the cones, like if you were driving behind, you would think he'd see the cones and start changing lanes as the cones got narrower and narrower, cause I couldn't see shit behind his car. And why the fuck would he not change lanes as the cones got narrower?

FUCK...if I had my dash cam rolling and I just rammed into the back of him when his car was FULLY STOPPED on the highway in front of the construction cones, would it still be my fault or his fault for stopping there?

Secondly, how much would it be to do a touch up job on a 2010 Toyota Camry? Right side bumper has 3 scratches on it.. or would the whole bumper need to be repainted? :okay:

[Mr.C]

Why didn't you change lanes? I've seen people do stupid shit at the construction area all the time.

Edit: Also, swerve to the right? Why not to the left? Was there heavy traffic?

[JulyZerg]

I needed to get off at Kensington, so I just followed, cause really, who fully stops in front of construction cones in the middle of the highway? And Bahhbeehhaaaa probably failed me cause I "shouldve" changed lanes but I didn't think some idiot would fully stop in front of a cone in the middle of the highway, never seen or happened before. That's probably why I didn't compute that a person would drive right up to the cone in the middle of the highway and stop when you're seeing that the cones were getting narrower.

[LuHua]

Well, tbh you should've hit the brakes a little harder at the beginning; always better to assume that shit'll happen. If you rear ended him, and it's a good thing you didn't, it would've been fully on you.

As for the repair...if it's on the plastic bumper I'd say don't bother bringing it in to a bodyshop. 1: see if it'll wipe/buff/claybar off, more often than not some marks made by those plastic/rubber pylons and cones are just a thin layer transferred to your car (think crayon). 2: If they are scratches, see if you can use a scratch remover or polish it off. 3: If it comes down to it see how well you can hide it with a touch up pen from the dealership. As far as I know all the body shop can do for you is respray the bumper which would cost you a few hundred.

[JulyZerg]

Why didn't you change lanes? I've seen people do stupid shit at the construction area all the time.

Edit: Also, swerve to the right? Why not to the left? Was there heavy traffic?

It happened pretty fast, it was at around 10pm tonight and if I swerve left and theirs a car going at 90/km+ and I hit it or he hits me, probably not good for me or the other party. So the safer route was to swerve right, when things happen so fast, it's hard to see.

Well, tbh you should've hit the brakes a little harder at the beginning; always better to assume that shit'll happen. If you rear ended him, and it's a good thing you didn't, it would've been fully on you.

As for the repair...if it's on the plastic bumper I'd say don't bother bringing it in to a bodyshop. 1: see if it'll wipe/buff/claybar off, more often than not some marks made by those plastic/rubber pylons and cones are just a thin layer transferred to your car (think crayon). 2: If they are scratches, see if you can use a scratch remover or polish it off. 3: If it comes down to it see how well you can hide it with a touch up pen from the dealership. As far as I know all the body shop can do for you is respray the bumper which would cost you a few hundred.

I know, lesson learned, always brake harder just in case. I really didn't think someone would just go right up to the cone when they could've saw it a mile away and fully stop in front of it before merging/changing lanes. That's what my brain wasn't aware of.

Thanks for the tip, do you have any recommendations for buff/claybar? And recommendation for a scratch remover or polisher? I'm pretty noob with this stuff :(

[JulyZerg]

If you guys are gonna fail me, come on and post why, love to hear it, actually lol

[Qmx323]

yes.

its been said too.

change lanes because YOU know there are pylons on the left.

[JulyZerg]

yes.

its been said too.

change lanes because YOU know there are pylons on the left.

It's easy to think "Oh I would've done this and that" sure you saw the Pylon/cones but if the car is going normally in front, you'd think okay I guess theirs nothing up ahead because he would have the best view of what's in front while my view is obstructed by his car and I've honestly never seen this situation happen and have never seen someone wait until the very end to change lanes when you can clearly see it was narrowing. And I never expected he would slam on the brakes and come to a full and complete stop.

I guess if you've never seen that situation before or been in it, it's hard to react.

[asr]

I hate this kind of idiot (bimmer driver).Just don't do the right thing.

If the damage area is big like your hand without dent. $150 should be done for a good polish and touch up job.

[JulyZerg]

I hate this kind of idiot (bimmer driver).Just don't do the right thing.

If the damage area is big like your hand without dent. $150 should be done for a good polish and touch up job.

Any recommendations for a good polish and touch up job?

[Bahhbeehhaaaa]

I failed you OP and you went to Honda/Acura Thread and failed me back? You dumb Fuck! You wanna know why i failed you? I have no idea how you could possibly hit the cones when you have a great distance between you and the car in front of you. Learn to drive!

[JulyZerg]

I failed you OP and you went to Honda/Acura Thread and failed me back? You dumb Fuck! You wanna know why i failed you? I have no idea how you could possibly hit the cones when you have a great distance between you and the car in front of you. Learn to drive!

http://serio.piiym.net/image/u-mad1.jpg

And if you read the whole thing you would've known that the car in front stopped right in front of the LAST cone and would you rather rear end him or touch the cone? Also when the person in front of you slams on the brakes hard and traveling at over 100/kmh, your distance becomes instantly less and I didn't see why he would do that, hence I didn't slam on my brakes right away. I'm still wondering why he would do that, we're you the 325i driver? (Serious question lol)

[LP700-4]

No more damage other than 3 scratches? I remember something like running your fingernails along the scratches and if they can't be felt then it is a simple buff out.

[JulyZerg]

No more damage other than 3 scratches? I remember something like running your fingernails along the scratches and if they can't be felt then it is a simple buff out.

Pretty much, I'll go outside in a few minutes to make sure. But it was like a love tap, I didn't run right into the pylon, just a small nudge. No dents for sure!

[syee]

Were there any cars in the left lane that were preventing the BMW from merging left?

As much as I want to side with you here, you did just drive by about 20 cones before you reached the last one. It would be a pretty good assumption that at some point, the lane is going to end (otherwise why have the cones out there?) You probably should have used that as a warning sign that maybe something was going on up ahead and to be more careful.

[zx7rrrr]

Are u an n driver? U should learn how to drive.
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[Eff-1]

FUCK...if I had my dash cam rolling and I just rammed into the back of him when his car was FULLY STOPPED on the highway in front of the construction cones, would it still be my fault or his fault for stopping there?


Your fault.

[mqin]

Not saying that it's completely your fault that this happened, but i'm betting you were just watching his bumper and not far off into the distance as you drove westbound on #1 highway with him leading.

Having said that, just let this be a lesson learned and don't always depend on others to be able to drive as fluently as you'd expect. It's up to you to keep your self out of trouble. Always know your gaps, not only with the car in front of you but just try and keep a mental image of whats around u as well.


And yes, if you hit him even with a dash cam recording exactly how he stopped in the middle of the hwy, you're still 100% at fault just because its a rear end collision and the motor vehicle act of bc says so in any rear end collision cases.

Anyways hope this could just be a learning experiences for you and be glad that you were not involved in a collision.

[Limitless]

If you were keeping a far distance from the car in front of you like you said and you saw him start to brake then I don't see why you wouldn't have enough time to come to a complete stop without having to swerve to avoid rear ending him... Also you know that the lane was going to close and you have to merge why didn't you prepare to merge earlier? If there were cars in the lane on your left that prevents you from merging than it would have prevented the bmw from merging as well, which is maybe why he came to a complete stop?

Anyways, the scratches on your bumper; if you can feel it with your fingers then it has to be repainted/touched up. If no matter how you rub your fingers across the scratches you can't feel a thing, then you can just claybar/polish it off

[JulyZerg]

Were there any cars in the left lane that were preventing the BMW from merging left?

As much as I want to side with you here, you did just drive by about 20 cones before you reached the last one. It would be a pretty good assumption that at some point, the lane is going to end (otherwise why have the cones out there?) You probably should have used that as a warning sign that maybe something was going on up ahead and to be more careful.

Not too sure about any cars of the left lane. I guess it's my fault as well for putting myself in that situation for hitting the cone. I knew the cone was ending but he was still driving normally, was thinking if hes doing that and he has a full view, guess it's not gonna end since the Kensington exit was a few meters away. I was wrong.

Are u an n driver? U should learn how to drive.
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Class 5 with like 20% of roadstar, not 40% for sure

Not saying that it's completely your fault that this happened, but i'm betting you were just watching his bumper and not far off into the distance as you drove westbound on #1 highway with him leading.

Having said that, just let this be a lesson learned and don't always depend on others to be able to drive as fluently as you'd expect. It's up to you to keep your self out of trouble. Always know your gaps, not only with the car in front of you but just try and keep a mental image of whats around u as well.


And yes, if you hit him even with a dash cam recording exactly how he stopped in the middle of the hwy, you're still 100% at fault just because its a rear end collision and the motor vehicle act of bc says so in any rear end collision cases.

Anyways hope this could just be a learning experiences for you and be glad that you were not involved in a collision.

Thanks for the tip and lesson is learned, although it'll probably cost me some money for this lesson. Hope the Claybar tomorrow works since it felt like a very soft nudge. Thanks guys, guess it's my fault. :okay:


If you were keeping a far distance from the car in front of you like you said and you saw him start to brake then I don't see why you wouldn't have enough time to come to a complete stop without having to swerve to avoid rear ending him... Also you know that the lane was going to close and you have to merge why didn't you prepare to merge earlier? If there were cars in the lane on your left that prevents you from merging than it would have prevented the bmw from merging as well, which is maybe why he came to a complete stop?

Anyways, the scratches on your bumper; if you can feel it with your fingers then it has to be repainted/touched up. If no matter how you rub your fingers across the scratches you can't feel a thing, then you can just claybar/polish it off

Well I saw him brake, so I started braking as well. I just didn't expect he'd come to a complete stop in the middle of the highway, thinking he was just adjusting to the speed limit or whatever, so I just pushed it slowly than harder once I saw he was actually braking hard, by than it was too late and I thought I might hit him, so I swerved right a bit, nudged the cone and the rest is history.

[subordinate]

Yep, It's likely you had room to change lanes being 10 pm on a Saturday.

What you should have also thought when braking was, shit..If I come to a complete stop behind this idiot, what if I get rear ended?

Should have scanned ahead, said f'it, changed lanes (go slightly under speed limit in case the car ahead was braking for animals or idiots jaywalking), then proceed.

Class 5 with like 20% of roadstar, not 40% for sure So still new? :troll:

[FerrariEnzo]

When you see someone BRAKING on the HWY, thats usually a SIGN to stay AWAY from that car! there should be no reason to be braking when theres NO NEAR EXIT, according to you picture... I dont know that area since I dont go out that way.

[Mkhun]

Little Off Topic here, Was the BMW conv. by any chance?

I saw conv. BMW somehow managed to 360 in the middle of #1 hwy 2 cars in front of me, ended up blowing up 2 rear tires + smash the front and back.

Stopped whole traffic for a while and i couldn't do anything other than just wait for his car move out of the way.

[jimmyrustler]

congratulations on getting your N license op! please, stay safe.

Family Guy Asian Driver - YouTube

[TRDood]

I just encountered one dumb fucktard today, I was traveling Westbound on Highway #1 towards Vancouver and this silver E90 325 BMW was in front of me. This was RIGHT before Kensington Exit(By 8 rinks I believe). I was keeping a pretty far distance away since I was on the right lane and I wasn't in a rush. I definitely wasn't tail-gating or not even close to.

So the BMW in front is quite a ways ahead and I see him brake, so I brake as well. I'm not going to mash the brake pedal for no reason and come to a complete stop cause we're on a Highway and I wasn't sure if their was someone behind me. So I brake and slowly press down on it, thinking he would either change lanes or at least see the cones/pylons in front...:

What? :fulloffuck:

You shouldn't b driving.
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[hchang]

When you see someone BRAKING on the HWY, thats usually a SIGN to stay AWAY from that car! there should be no reason to be braking when theres NO NEAR EXIT, according to you picture... I dont know that area since I dont go out that way.

This.

When you're following somebody on any given road and they start braking or doing anything out of the ordinary basic driving instincts should kick in and tell you to get the fuck out of that lane.
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[BrRsn]

Always make sure no one is in your blindspot and you are in no one else's blind spot. This way, if anythings gonna happen around you, you always got an escape route. This has saved me countless times. A few times (on HWY 1 As well, westbound towards van) I've encountered people in the HOV lane whose car just died all of a sudden and I had to actually speed up, close the gap between me and the stationary car, and quickly switch lanes to avoid slamming into the back of them :facepalm:

Anyways its a shame that someone with such excellent MS paint skills would have to endure such a situation. I hope your paint brush skills IRL are better than on ms paint because you're gonna need them to fix that bumper :fuckthatshit:

[Joreus]

You were driving on highway 1. HIGHWAY 1. I take it every day and people on that highway go from 80+ to a complete stop ALL THE TIME. Especially around that stretch, and especially around all that construction. Whether it be for traffic reasons, or an accident, or someone almost hitting someone else, or someone stopping in front of a goddamned cone; if you aren't ready to stop then sure he may be clueless, but you're the idiot. The guy could have wanted to stop to open his fucking doors to ghost ride the whip because his favorite hyphy song just came on. You still have to stop. Fuck I kinda wish that had happened, it would have at least made for a better story.

[Kidnapman]

Really OP you would jeopardize your health to screw over "just another retarded bimmer driver"??? Your parents would be disappointed in you if you really did follow through. Set your ego aside and be thankful you didn't crash into the guy cause 5 years or so down the road, the affects of the collision would've started to show and you would've regretted it for the rest of your life. Take many of the RSers for example, does it look like they are happy that they got medical claim from ICBC after an accident? More than certainly not. This topic really doesn't deserve it's own thread; next time OP just vent out as much as you need to on "shitty dangerous drivers" thread and move on. I'm sure myself, and many other RSers don't feel like seeing this kind of thread anytime someone encounters a retard. Cause lets be honest, VANCOUVER IS FILLED WITH SHITTY DRIVERS especially in Richmond in case you haven't noticed.

[Qmx323]

It's easy to think "Oh I would've done this and that" sure you saw the Pylon/cones but if the car is going normally in front, you'd think okay I guess theirs nothing up ahead because he would have the best view of what's in front while my view is obstructed by his car and I've honestly never seen this situation happen and have never seen someone wait until the very end to change lanes when you can clearly see it was narrowing. And I never expected he would slam on the brakes and come to a full and complete stop.

I guess if you've never seen that situation before or been in it, it's hard to react.

No,

I drive down this specific stretch (Kensington to Willingdon) every week, the second you see pylons or those big bucket style ones you should be switching lanes.

No reason to be behind someone who is on the brakes on a highway.

[DEADBEA7]

Thread backfire, LOL

[westopher]

FUCK...if I had my dash cam rolling and I just rammed into the back of him when his car was FULLY STOPPED on the highway in front of the construction cones, would it still be my fault or his fault for stopping there?

How do people pass their learners exams without knowing shit like this?

[Inaii]

You shouldn't have been fixated on the car ahead of you. I don't drive that often and even I know that when you see cones of any sort coming into your lane (and the signs warning you to merge beforehand) that you change lanes asap. If you don't know how to drive, you sure as hell shouldn't be on the highway.

[CharlieH]

lol noob

[GabAlmighty]

Good thread, would read again.

[BrRsn]

^ raped

[Soundy]

Thread backfire, LOL

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/negged/grand/Thread-Backfire-Negged1.gif

[tiger_handheld]

my question to OP is, if you saw cones narrow [i'm sure there was also a "lane ends - merge left" sign] , why didn't you just merge right and change lanes again for the exit? Traffic authority isn't stupid to shut down a highway exit and make you exit else where.

Also OP as a tip, I advise you to re-read the "Observation" chapter on the Drivers license book. If you had read it, it would've taught you how to:

-look further than the car in front you
-when you see break lights from the car in front, to check your side and rear view mirrors quickly and change lanes if needed
- look for road signs / construction signs on the shoulder
- expect the unexpected (also known as hazzard perception which is tested during N road test and class 5 road test)

As an additional tip, there is a section in the book that talks about leaving "an emergency space" with the car in front of you so you dont have to come to a full stop right behind the guy or swerve to the right.

ps: I didn't fail OP - not worth the effort.

[HansonBoy]

Also OP as a tip, I advise you to re-read the "Observation" chapter on the Drivers license book. If you had read it, it would've taught you how to:

-look further than the car in front you
-when you see break lights from the car in front, to check your side and rear view mirrors quickly and change lanes if needed
- look for road signs / construction signs on the shoulder
- expect the unexpected (also known as hazzard perception which is tested during N road test and class 5 road test)


One slight problem. Most cars especially SUVs have super mysterious secret service style TINTED rear windows, which makes seeing ahead damn near impossible. Best i can do is try to angle my car a bit to the side but even then i am still losing a shit ton of visibility. God i hate those cars so bad, and I am usually patient but when i try to pass them then everyone probably thinks im an impatient ricer :fullofwin:

[46_valentinor]

this is to everyone on revscene and not just the op. PLEASE be AWARE of your surroundings and not just whats going on in front of you!! check your mirrors every couple seconds and if you see brake lights going off, signals going off get ready to move the fuck away no matter how far the car is! this reduces the chance of you having to brake and wasting gas and also decreases your travel time and last but not least it keeps you save...

[HansonBoy]

Always make sure no one is in your blindspot and you are in no one else's blind spot. This way, if anythings gonna happen around you, you always got an escape route. This has saved me countless times. A few times (on HWY 1 As well, westbound towards van) I've encountered people in the HOV lane whose car just died all of a sudden and I had to actually speed up, close the gap between me and the stationary car, and quickly switch lanes to avoid slamming into the back of them :facepalm:

e-high five! Im also the type of driver who is uncomfortable sitting in someones blind spot or having someone in mine, i would rather speed for a few seconds to get ahead or pass someone than getting too comfortable with my escape routes blocked.

[T4RAWR]

:lawl:

[tiger_handheld]

One slight problem. Most cars especially SUVs have super mysterious secret service style TINTED rear windows, which makes seeing ahead damn near impossible. Best i can do is try to angle my car a bit to the side but even then i am still losing a shit ton of visibility. God i hate those cars so bad, and I am usually patient but when i try to pass them then everyone probably thinks im an impatient ricer :fullofwin:

if on a highway - change lanes so you get a better view

if on a single lane - drop back to atleast 1.5 car lengths in front of you and drive so that your center hood ornament is somewhat closely aligned to his rear right break lights (if the road is wide enough).

also if it's raining or at night, keeping the 1.5m ahead of you, you can look under the suv for red break light reflection of car ahead of the suv. if day time, space in front is the only thing that'll help.

i'm no guru - but this is what works for me.

[melloman]

Clearly OP was staring at "Idiot drivers" rear bumper and not paying attention to the multiple signs that say:
http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/graphics/english/dandv/driver/senior/merge_ahead.gif

Or the multiple cones that clearly show the lanes closing. The guys who put the cones out usually let you have atleast 500m advance notice that the lane is closed and a merge is necessary.

It's a hard lesson learned. Be a defensive driver and don't trust anybody. I'd say 95% of the drivers on the road are idiots. :badpokerface:

[gdoh]

So the BMW in front is quite a ways ahead and I see him brake, so I brake as well. I'm not going to mash the brake pedal for no reason and come to a complete stop cause we're on a Highway and I wasn't sure if their was someone behind me. So I brake and slowly press down on it, thinking he would either change lanes or at least see the cones/pylons in front.
:

mirrors how do they work

[TPMarko]

OP = perfect example of shitty greater vancouver drivers who think they know what they are doing but actually don't. i bet you also honk at people who went first because they had the right of way.