[Manic!]

Windows 8 is coming out on oct 26 and so are a lot of devices for it.

Devices will come in 2 flavors.

Windows RT: These will run on Arm CPU's and will only run apps made for Windows RT.

Others will run Intel and AMD CPU's and will run everything. AMD devices will also run Android apps right out of the box.

Good list of windows 8 devices:

Windows 8: The complete new PC launch list | Reviews - Laptops - CNET Reviews (http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-3121_7-57531284-220/windows-8-the-complete-new-pc-launch-list/)


Anyone thinking about buying a new device?

[!MiKrofT]

Why would you need a new device when most current hardware will run it just fine? Unless you're looking at the rt version.

[ForbiddenX]

^Mostly to take advantage of the Metro UI for tablet I guess.

I've been using a Win8 tablet a lot at work and I find it really useful. It's a good mix between tablet and PC.

I haven't really looked into any of the other devices but I would get one that has the stylus that's not capacitative (don't remember what it's called off the top of my head lol).

[Manic!]

Why would you need a new device when most current hardware will run it just fine? Unless you're looking at the rt version.

There are a lot of people that want a tablet with a full OS.

[!MiKrofT]

Ahh. I only glanced at the page and thought I only saw laptops.

[Manic!]

Price for Windows RT tablet are out. $499 for the 32 gig version. Seems a bit high to me.

AnandTech - Inside Microsoft's Surface RT Tablet (http://www.anandtech.com/show/6377/inside-microsofts-surface-rt-tablet)

Edit: $519 pre order price in Canada with out a touch cover. $619 with comer and $719 for the 64 gig ver with cover. I wonder what the Windows Pro prices will be.

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msca/en_CA/pdp/productID.257918700?ClickID=dwb22zkwrbht2ymbbxc0hs zhnnsxzkrynhhx

[StylinRed]

id like a tablet if its running the full Win8OS but im partial to the microsoft surface design especially with the cover/kb

supposedly Nokia will be releasing a tablet as well now (its been rumoured and denied for awhile but looks like its true) but i'd only be interested if its not RT which i doubt it will be

[Presto]

Globe and Mail reports that Surface 32GB will be $519 in Canada. Keyboard is $130. The 64GB Surface will be priced at $719, but it will come with the keyboard. However, the keyboard it comes will not have keys that depress. That keyboard can be bought for $140.

Source: Microsoft (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/technology/gadgets-and-gear/gadgets/microsofts-surface-tablet-to-sell-for-520-in-canada/article4615890/)

Personally, I'm waiting for the x86 tablets. I've always wanted a tablet that could run a full OS. It looks like this is it.

[StylinRed]

yeah you can pre-order the surface tablets over at Microsoft Store Canada Online Store - Surface with Windows RT (http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msca/en_CA/pdp/productID.257918700)


the Acer W700 looks quite appealing actually and comes bundled with a dock to "desktopize" it
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2011069/acer-w700-hands-on-our-first-serious-quality-time-with-a-windows-8-tablet.html

oh and lenovo http://www.pcworld.com/article/2011469/lenovo-shows-off-windows-8-gear-tablets-rt-convertible-laptops-and-ultraportables.html

think i may way for the 2nd gen tablets/slates though

[dasani604]

think i may way for the 2nd gen tablets/slates though

Yea I would wait for the 2nd gen. tablets as well. At these prices, including the increased prices for Canadians (I really don't understand why they do that) and ~$100 for the case with keyboard, I can't justify purchasing the Surface at the moment. If they priced their Windows Pro Surfaces at this price, then it would sell like hotcakes. Sadly that's not the case. Hopefully my negativity is wrong about its influence on the success of Windows 8.

Edit: I take it back.
http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msca/en_CA/pdp/productID.257918700
Click on Help Me Choose.

With Office Preinstalled, I can now justify the price lol. Also, it doesn't look like you'll be missing much compared to the Pro version. It is already more productive for business/school with typing. Chrome + Photoshop already have apps made. Windows RT isn't as bad as I thought it would be.

[Manic!]

Reviews ore out on a couple of Sony products including the tap 20.

Sony reaches the Windows 8 finish line first with two quirky tablets | PCWorld (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2011609/sony-reaches-the-windows-8-finish-line-first-with-two-quirky-tablets.html)

[StylinRed]

^^^ with regard to the Duo 11 on the sonystyle website you can order it with an i7 chip or even i3 and i5

was checking that out for some time just now, will have to see it in person but i may just go for it

[Manic!]

Acers tablet will be out Nov 9th in Canada. Starting at $500 for the 32 GB ver with an Intel Atam CPU. $150 for the keyboard dock. The Dock also has a battery doubleing the batter life to around 18 hours.

Acer releasing Windows 8 tablet in Canada Nov. 9: Acer Iconia W510 | Vancouver Sun (http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2012/10/09/acer-releasing-windows-8-tablet-in-canada-nov-9-acer-iconia-w510/)

[BigTrollFace]

I went to Windows 8 training yesterday and damn I am EXTREMELY impressed.

I was skeptical about it before.

It is crazy how they brought a full working os to a tablet and its not any different from the desktop version its exactly the same.

[Manic!]

Lenovo Yoga 13.3 laptop/tablet video is out. Looks awesome. Has a patented 180 degree hinge. Rumors have the price around $1100 for the I5 ver.

Lenovo Unboxed: IdeaPad Yoga - YouTube

[dangonay]

Daring Fireball asked about storage space on the new 32GB tablet. MS responded back that after WindowsRT, Office and a "bunch of Apps" users can expect to have 20GB of free space on the 32 GB Surface.

Guess that explains why there's no 16GB version.

[twitchyzero]

if there's a pretty much full-fledged windows OS 16gigs won't be enough anyways
even if you download custom lite version of win8 or sthing it's still gonna be pretty limited

[!MiKrofT]

Lenovo Yoga 13.3 laptop/tablet video is out. Looks awesome. Has a patented 180 degree hinge. Rumors have the price around $1100 for the I5 ver.

Lenovo Unboxed: IdeaPad Yoga - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVRt5KhRh_M)
Nice.. but now the keyboard surface is touching whatever surface you put it on when in tablet mode. ie scratches wear and tear on the keys/trackpad.

[StylinRed]

I like the Lenovo Lynx's scheme more where the screen is detachable but the Lynx doesn't have nice internals


So far it looks like the Sony DUO is my fav and the Acer W700 2nd
http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/sony-VAIO-Duo-11.jpg ^sony

http://zapt3.staticworld.net/images/article/2012/10/_dsc8629_flattened_116-100006860-gallery.jpg
^acer comes with a dock

but they both have some significant negatives, so unless im blown away by them in person it'll be the wait for 2nd gen devices :/

[Manic!]

Nice.. but now the keyboard surface is touching whatever surface you put it on when in tablet mode. ie scratches wear and tear on the keys/trackpad.

keys are recessed so they don't touch anything.

[StylinRed]

ooh didn't realize there was a first look/review

FIRST LOOK: New Sony VAIO Duo Hybrid Ultrabook (Windows 8) - YouTube

Gorilla Glass





:considered: is there a Wacom Cintiq tablet... seems like its right in their ballpark

[3klipze]

I wonder if the Asus Tf600 Transformers will get the full windows or just the tablet windows 8 software. Anyone here know the answer?

[Manic!]

I wonder if the Asus Tf600 Transformers will get the full windows or just the tablet windows 8 software. Anyone here know the answer?

If it's not running an Intel or AMD CPU it's running Windows RT. Looks like it will be Windows RT

ASUS VitoTab RT TF600 32GB 10.1" Windows RT Tablet - Grey in Portable Tablet PCs | JR.com (http://www.jr.com/asus/pe/ASU_TF600TB1GR/)
ASUS Pad | Transformer Pad Infinity | Features (http://eee.asus.com/en/transformer-infinity/features/)

[3klipze]

Thanks, heard the rumors for it a long time ago, never really looked into it.

NCIX actually has it on preorder for 599.. pricey considering the market for tablet is dropping.

[Manic!]

Thanks, heard the rumors for it a long time ago, never really looked into it.

NCIX actually has it on preorder for 599.. pricey considering the market for tablet is dropping.

Other tablets main use is consumption.
Windows 8 tablets will be a lot more about productivity. Windows RT comes with Office.

[Geoc]

All I want is .net or visual c application layer so we can run basic desktop programs on the ARM platform. That or full fledged JavaVM.:okay:

[dasani604]

Other tablets main use is consumption.
Windows 8 tablets will be a lot more about productivity. Windows RT comes with Office.

I'm still on the fence about getting the Windows Surface RT. Currently, I don't have a laptop of any sort so would you guys recommend to wait for the Pro version to come out/other OEM non-RT tablets? What I like about the Windows Surface is that it comes with Windows Office, which will not be included in the Pro version (for now). I'm a student so I won't be doing anything intensive. Main activities would be typical school things, browsing, checking stocks, etc.

I can't decide which one would be a better investment. Gah decisions

[StylinRed]

just to note the 32gb Surface tab is sold out (pre-orders) in canada & us

[flagella]

Wow... surprised it got sold out.

[StylinRed]

^^ apparently the US ones sold out within a few hours (couple days for Canada)


2 commercials

Surface by Microsoft - YouTube

MICROSOFT "MOVEMENT" Surface Commercial - Directed by Jon M. Chu [DS2DIO] - YouTube





edit all sold out now in the US with a 3 week backorder

[terkan]

what's the black touch cover thing that cost extra $100? is that the same thing as the white touch cover that u can get as an addon?

[Mr.HappySilp]

I am not sure if I will ever get a tablet again. I have the ipad2 for a week or so didn't like it so refund.

Got the ipad3 in March this year just sold it 2 days again. Though I would use it to see if I really like it but is just not for me. The functions is too limited on a tablet and also the screen isn't big enough. It might work for some people but not for me. I rather use a laptop.

[Manic!]

I am not sure if I will ever get a tablet again. I have the ipad2 for a week or so didn't like it so refund.

Got the ipad3 in March this year just sold it 2 days again. Though I would use it to see if I really like it but is just not for me. The functions is too limited on a tablet and also the screen isn't big enough. It might work for some people but not for me. I rather use a laptop.

Microsoft Surface combines the best of a laptop with the best of a tablet. It does a lot more than an I pad.

[Mr.HappySilp]

^^ I would actually wait till it comes out and try it out first before making any comments. Sure there are reviews out there but still very different when using it. Unless I can hook it to a bigger monitior I am not quite sold on it yet. Coz with a laptop I can still some some games on it..... not sure how well games will run on it.
There is still something a desktop/laptop can do a lot better than a tablet can unit that happens I don't think I will try a tablet.

[StylinRed]

what's the black touch cover thing that cost extra $100? is that the same thing as the white touch cover that u can get as an addon?

for the surface? its an actual keyboard with buttons instead of the touch version

I am not sure if I will ever get a tablet again. I have the ipad2 for a week or so didn't like it so refund.

Got the ipad3 in March this year just sold it 2 days again. Though I would use it to see if I really like it but is just not for me. The functions is too limited on a tablet and also the screen isn't big enough. It might work for some people but not for me. I rather use a laptop.

i've no use for a tablet (in the ipad sense) either but im looking at getting a win8 tablet to replace my laptop

^^ I would actually wait till it comes out and try it out first before making any comments. Sure there are reviews out there but still very different when using it. Unless I can hook it to a bigger monitior I am not quite sold on it yet. Coz with a laptop I can still some some games on it..... not sure how well games will run on it.
There is still something a desktop/laptop can do a lot better than a tablet can unit that happens I don't think I will try a tablet.

well with the sony one im looking at getting its got the data port and the hdmi so you can hook it up to a monitor

as for gaming im hoping it can do some gaming with that intel 4000 (if you google the 4000 it can do crysis on low/medium settings)

[Mr.HappySilp]

Let's hope is actually good. I am not saying is bad or anything but actual use is very different from reviews on paper.

[Manic!]

^^ I would actually wait till it comes out and try it out first before making any comments. Sure there are reviews out there but still very different when using it. Unless I can hook it to a bigger monitior I am not quite sold on it yet. Coz with a laptop I can still some some games on it..... not sure how well games will run on it.
There is still something a desktop/laptop can do a lot better than a tablet can unit that happens I don't think I will try a tablet.

Microsoft Surface RT has a Micro HDMI out and USB.

[dangonay]

Microsoft Surface combines the best of a laptop with the best of a tablet. It does a lot more than an I pad.
I think it's the exact opposite. It's a jack-of-all-trades, master of none.

As a tablet it's inferior to the iPad 3. As a laptop it's inferior to countless options out there. I don't know how taking two sub-par products and combining them gives you a superior product.

I've gone over Microsoft's developer site for RT and as I've said before, it's not easy to take an existing program and port it over to RT. New software designed for Metro can be compiled for both RT and x86 Windows, but that doesn't do anything to make it easy to get existing software working. People are going to be very confused and upset when they realize RT will not run any of your current Windows software, despite being branded as "Windows".

Then again, it's not full Office and is missing a few features. One deal breaker for me (and work) is the lack of macros. So many corporate documents we use have macros which means Office RT is completely useless for us.

Try Googling for Windows RT Apps and see what you come up with. I did and the lack of software available (or listed anywhere) for a tablet that's due out in a few days is scary. Unless everyone is under some non-disclosure agreement and can't announce until the 26th. But I doubt that - I think there's going to be a dearth of software for RT at launch.


A piece of hardware, no matter how good it is on paper, is useless without software.

[Manic!]

I think it's the exact opposite. It's a jack-of-all-trades, master of none.

As a tablet it's inferior to the iPad 3. As a laptop it's inferior to countless options out there. I don't know how taking two sub-par products and combining them gives you a superior product.

I've gone over Microsoft's developer site for RT and as I've said before, it's not easy to take an existing program and port it over to RT. New software designed for Metro can be compiled for both RT and x86 Windows, but that doesn't do anything to make it easy to get existing software working. People are going to be very confused and upset when they realize RT will not run any of your current Windows software, despite being branded as "Windows".

Then again, it's not full Office and is missing a few features. One deal breaker for me (and work) is the lack of macros. So many corporate documents we use have macros which means Office RT is completely useless for us.

Try Googling for Windows RT Apps and see what you come up with. I did and the lack of software available (or listed anywhere) for a tablet that's due out in a few days is scary. Unless everyone is under some non-disclosure agreement and can't announce until the 26th. But I doubt that - I think there's going to be a dearth of software for RT at launch.


A piece of hardware, no matter how good it is on paper, is useless without software.

Windows RT comes with Office home and student edition If you want to use Macros in office get the Surface pro it runs the full version of office. for me it's app quality over quantity, home many farts apps does the IOS have?
Windows phone 7 does have over 50k in apps if you care about that type of stat.

Windows Surface pro will have more apps than IOS and android combined on launch day.
Tablet using AMD CPU's will also be able to run Android apps.

[!MiKrofT]

Just installed Win8 Pro on my zenbook prime. It's pretty confusing lol. I'll say one thing. It's amazingly snappy and boots up faster than my win7 clean install. Using the UEFI mode with GPT partition.

[dasani604]

Just installed Win8 Pro on my zenbook prime. It's pretty confusing lol. I'll say one thing. It's amazingly snappy and boots up faster than my win7 clean install. Using the UEFI mode with GPT partition.

Keep playing around with it and you'll get used to it. It's more convenient than Win7 once you get the hang of it. Plus, their maps is sick - it does a better job than Google Maps (you'll notice Nokia Maps being labelled somewhere along with Bing Maps - I'm assuming that means they're using the NAVTEQ database?)

[dangonay]

Windows RT comes with Office home and student edition If you want to use Macros in office get the Surface pro it runs the full version of office. for me it's app quality over quantity, home many farts apps does the IOS have?
Windows phone 7 does have over 50k in apps if you care about that type of stat.

Windows Surface pro will have more apps than IOS and android combined on launch day.
Tablet using AMD CPU's will also be able to run Android apps.
Pro will have apps simply because it can run legacy code. How many of those umpteen million apps do you think are going to be optimized for touch based devices? Almost none. So why buy a touch based tablet to run a bunch of Windows software that isn't touch enabled? You might as well buy a laptop.

We'll find out in a few days, but I predict very few RT Apps and even fewer touch-enabled Apps. It's going to look pretty stupid to have Apps running on your tablet that still have File - Open and the usual familiar Windows menus.

[!MiKrofT]

Better than Google maps? That I highly doubt. Guess I'll see when I use it some more.

[StylinRed]

Keep playing around with it and you'll get used to it. It's more convenient than Win7 once you get the hang of it. Plus, their maps is sick - it does a better job than Google Maps (you'll notice Nokia Maps being labelled somewhere along with Bing Maps - I'm assuming that means they're using the NAVTEQ database?)

Better than Google maps? That I highly doubt. Guess I'll see when I use it some more.

depends on your location but yeah Nokia > Google or that is Navteq>Google

its used in like 90% of car navigation systems and offers more countries/services etc etc

however google does excel over navteq in certain areas/countries (like the US and especially in campus mapping) etc


check out one of my recent <3 nokia threads there's a maps comparison ;)



here quoted it :)

More here too
http://cdn.conversations.nokia.com.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Maps-apps-benchmark.jpeg

fixed

Maps Coverage comparison

Nokia (Navteq)
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/5669/nokiam.png

Google
http://cdn.conversations.nokia.com.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Google.png

Apple
http://cdn.conversations.nokia.com.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Apple.png




where google excels (campus map compare in the usa)

Apple Maps vs. TomTom Maps vs. Waze Maps vs. OpenStreetMap vs. Nokia Maps vs. Bing Maps vs. Google Maps

http://i.imgur.com/Th4v4.jpg

[!MiKrofT]

Hmm I coulda swore at one point Google also used some mapdata from Navteq and Teleatlas. Guess this has changed over the years.

[Manic!]

Stapes flyer is out with windows 8 devices. The Acer Iconia is priced at $599 without the keyboard for the 64 GB ver.


Edit:
Ausus Laptop/Tablet with 2 displays.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/10/asus-taichi-620-wide.jpg

[StylinRed]

couldnt wait ordered the sony duo from their website

it costs the same as the one from sonystyle.com except the one in the states gives a 256gb ssd sonystyle.ca gives a 128gb and they want $300 to upgrade to the 256gb :fuckthatshit:

[Manic!]

Reviews for the Surface RT And the Asus Vivitab RT are Up.

AnandTech - Microsoft Surface Review (http://www.anandtech.com/show/6385/microsoft-surface-review)

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6387/asus-vivotab-rt-review

[dasani604]

Surface RT looks damn sleek.

At the moment, I can't tell if one of those new ASUS ultrabooks is a better investment than the Windows 8 Surface Pro. What are your guys' opinions on this? According to Engadget (which I feel has some bias towards Apple) said good things about the Surface, especially how the touch cover is responsive in regards to accurate typing. With that being said, maybe a W8 pro tablet is justified as a purchase rather than an ultrabook.

[Manic!]

Surface pro will not be out till January. it's basically a Ultrabook with a touch screen and a removable keyboard.

Looks like the Asus dual screen laptop is real.

ASUS TAICHI 21 11.6" Touchscreen Ultrabook featuring 3rd Gen Intel Core i5-3317U Processor - Black : Ultrabooks - Best Buy Canada (http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/asus-asus-taichi-21-11-6-touchscreen-ultrabook-featuring-3rd-gen-intel-core-i5-3317u-processor-black-taichi21-dh51-cb/10227468.aspx?path=99702c434b1399627513e818858b2a0 9en02)

[StylinRed]

MSI has one that's very much like the sony duo11 it looks


http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/10/msis20handson43-1351207778.jpg

Hands-on with MSI's S20 Slidebook Windows 8 convertible Ultrabook (update: video) -- Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/25/hands-on-with-msis-s20-slidebook-windows-8-convertible-ultraboo/)


the only thing different it seems is how the top opens (actually seems better than how the sony lid works)

[dangonay]

^ These have one huge advantage over the Surface - you can actually use it like a laptop (meaning you can put it on your lap). As cool as the Surface keyboard/cover is, it still requires space on a desk/table to work and room behind for the kickstand. That means it's useless on the train, bus, airplane or even in most university lecture halls that think giving you a big armrest qualifies as a desk.

That said, in a Best Buy filled with $500 laptops, are people going to plunk down over $1,100 for an MSI laptop/tablet?

[StylinRed]

the hardware specs for something like the msi or sony duo11 equate to about a $1000 laptop

and these are thinner and work like a tablet too

that's why i ordered one and going to get rid of my laptop :)

[dangonay]

^ So what do you actually expect to do with it in tablet mode? Which software will you be running that uses the tablet that will be better than laptop mode?
Posted via RS Mobile

[StylinRed]

nothing particular in mind; i've no real use for a tablet but i just like that i can get more "comfy" with a tablet or "tablet mode"

so i suppose i would just browse the net on the bed or youtube/hulu/reading manga,comics and anything that may come out in the future

its really just an added benefit; i was headed for getting an ultrabook over my current gaming laptop (since i dont game anymore) and a "convertible" (as they seem to be calling it) is more appealing



hell being an apple fanboy im surprised you'd ask that considering the redundant, useless, iProducts that millions flock to replace with a newer edition :)


i just want it :D

[Manic!]

Just got Windows 8 pro for $16.95. Will be installing on a Asus AIO with a touch screen.

[dasani604]

Just got Windows 8 pro for $16.95. Will be installing on a Asus AIO with a touch screen.

So cheap, where???

I hope they have student deals

[StylinRed]

^^^^ its $14+ if you bought a laptop/computer within a years time; else its $40 to upgrade

If you got Win 8 Pro make sure you go here and get Media Centre for free

Add features - Microsoft Windows (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/feature-packs)

(its free until January)

[StylinRed]

If you've purchased your laptop/computer from June 2012 - Jan 2013 without win8 pre-installed you can upgrade to Win 8 for $14 by going to this website http://www.windowsupgradeoffer.com/ and entering your information and you get a promo code which will discount your purchase


Well you can go to that website, http://www.windowsupgradeoffer.com/ and enter any information you want as long as its within the promo period and you can get WIN8 for $14+tax



I haven't seen this posted on redflagdeals so quick before they find out and ruin this deal

[scoobyej20]

If you've purchased your laptop/computer from June 2012 - Jan 2013 without win8 pre-installed you can upgrade to Win 8 for $14 by going to this website Windows Upgrade Offer - Landing Page (http://www.windowsupgradeoffer.com/) and entering your information and you get a promo code which will discount your purchase


Well you can go to that website, Windows Upgrade Offer - Landing Page (http://www.windowsupgradeoffer.com/) and enter any information you want as long as its within the promo period and you can get WIN8 for $14+tax



I haven't seen this posted on redflagdeals so quick before they find out and ruin this deal

Deal has been posted many times on RedFlagDeals and other sites..

Many threads have been deleted on RFD since many people are using it without actually purchasing a PC recently..

anyway, I got my copy through the upgrade method.. burnt iso onto USB stick.. :fullofwin:

[StylinRed]

^^^ Oh i thought the offer was posted but people didn't know you could still use it without having purchased a computer within the promo period i should have known RFD would know lol

yeah i did the same (usb stick) i normally have a tonne of them around but couldn't find them ended up formatting one that i wanted to keep as is (backed up of course)

[terkan]

hmm i just installed windows 8 on my laptop.. really doesn't feel any different from windows 7. i don't use that fancy splash page. however.. how do i disable the task bar on my 2nd display?? i can move it around but i just can't seem to get rid of it.

[areyounoob]

Really considering the Acer W700 for its 1080p screen..
But the screen is only 11.6"...

[terkan]

nm.. i spoke too soon.. i absolutely hate windows 8... i honestly think this will fail just like windows vista did... i can see it working out on a tablet.. but on a mainstream pc or laptop.. wow i fuking can't stand the new interface and everything.. it's driving me nuts...

[StylinRed]

im not really liking it either so far

but i hate it less than i did when i first installed it

[dasani604]

If you've purchased your laptop/computer from June 2012 - Jan 2013 without win8 pre-installed you can upgrade to Win 8 for $14 by going to this website Windows Upgrade Offer - Landing Page (http://www.windowsupgradeoffer.com/) and entering your information and you get a promo code which will discount your purchase


Well you can go to that website, Windows Upgrade Offer - Landing Page (http://www.windowsupgradeoffer.com/) and enter any information you want as long as its within the promo period and you can get WIN8 for $14+tax



I haven't seen this posted on redflagdeals so quick before they find out and ruin this deal

Deal has been posted many times on RedFlagDeals and other sites..

Many threads have been deleted on RFD since many people are using it without actually purchasing a PC recently..

anyway, I got my copy through the upgrade method.. burnt iso onto USB stick.. :fullofwin:

Not working for me :/ I entered one of my Win7 CD Keys but I guess it can tell that it was purchased before those dates.

[Manic!]

Not working for me :/ I entered one of my Win7 CD Keys but I guess it can tell that it was purchased before those dates.

When does it ask you for a win 7 key? Before or after purchase?

[!MiKrofT]

Never got asked for my product key.

[StylinRed]

i just tried it again and it doesn't ask for a win7 cd key at all and i dont see why it would either

it asks for your laptops model number and where&when you bought it

[terkan]

is there an option to downgrade back to my original windows 7 pro? i was lazy and just did the upgrade instead of a clean install and i'm getting a lot of random restart to bsod -.-

[g604]

http://i48.tinypic.com/omyqx.png

So some of you guys are saying that the original start menu is better than this..

[!MiKrofT]

i just tried it again and it doesn't ask for a win7 cd key at all and i dont see why it would either

it asks for your laptops model number and where&when you bought it
I heard when you actually do the purchase using the upgrade advisor it prompts for a key. Some ppl get it some don't.

[scoobyej20]

for the people that prefer the desktop view more..

you can just Snap the "Start" screen to the left and Desktop to the right.. that's what I'm doing right now.. hahaha

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/7820/screenshotvjs.png

[SkinnyPupp]

Edit, got my key. BTW if you use the en_HK version, you don't even have to enter a Windows 7 key. When I tried using the en-CA version, it didn't accept my old Win7 key.

[g604]

for the people that prefer the desktop view more..

you can just Snap the "Start" screen to the left and Desktop to the right.. that's what I'm doing right now.. hahaha

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/7820/screenshotvjs.png

Snap view is awesome for messaging, twitter, Skype, weather, e-mail and all other small things. Saves desktop space for me usually Outlook takes up an entire screen.

[SkinnyPupp]

Snap view is awesome for messaging, twitter, Skype, weather, e-mail and all other small things. Saves desktop space for me usually Outlook takes up an entire screen.
That's exactly how I have been using Windows for years... probably since I started using a resolution higher than 1024x768. It makes no sense whatsoever to run most applications in full screen. Things like photoshop and programming of course, but for web browsing and shit it makes no sense.

[StylinRed]

After a day of use I'm liking win8 much more guess its all a matter of getting used to it



I heard when you actually do the purchase using the upgrade advisor it prompts for a key. Some ppl get it some don't.

that's so odd; considering i've never received a cd key when purchasing a laptop

weird


maybe those people are getting cd-key requests because their win7 is pirated

[SkinnyPupp]

After a day of use I'm liking win8 much more guess its all a matter of getting used to it





that's so odd; considering i've never received a cd key when purchasing a laptop

weird


maybe those people are getting cd-key requests because their win7 is pirated
No, like I said, it asked me for a key when I used the Canadian site and entered "Other" as the PC model. But when I used the HK site it didn't.

[StylinRed]

ah i see

for me i entered an actual brand and model into the line

ah well at least it still works kinda :)

[Gh0stRider]

WTF is this shit? It's disgusting

[3klipze]

wonder if its possible to run windows 8 RT on my android Asus transformer.

[Tim Budong]

apps that most impressed me on Windows8 so far are

TSN
http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/578498_10151214283104264_775480964_n.jpg

and this news app called BENTO

[AzNightmare]

That's exactly how I have been using Windows for years... probably since I started using a resolution higher than 1024x768. It makes no sense whatsoever to run most applications in full screen. Things like photoshop and programming of course, but for web browsing and shit it makes no sense.

Yup, any good sites have content maxed out around 1000px width, just so people still using small monitors can view the sites properly.
I always leave my browser windows smaller, just because sites look so weird when all the content is in the middle, but there's so much "white space" on the sides.

I just went to NCIX today to play around with Windows 8 for a few minutes.

Not as bad as I thought, or as bad as everyone was saying it would be.

I don't need the Start button, and being a PC user that maximizes the full usage of shortcut commands, I adjusted to it pretty quickly.
And the desktop mode is pretty much the same thing. All the shortcuts are the same, so yeah.

I'm actually still on XP, and didn't feel like it was too confusing making this "big leap".
The Charm Bar is there as it is, but it's not something that windows 8 is dependant on to use (which I initially thought it was).

Anyway, I'm due for an upgrade cause my system's 5 years old.
Is there some deal where I can upgrade to Windows 8 from XP for a special deal price?

[SkinnyPupp]

Yup, any good sites have content maxed out around 1000px width, just so people still using small monitors can view the sites properly.
I always leave my browser windows smaller, just because sites look so weird when all the content is in the middle, but there's so much "white space" on the sides.

I just went to NCIX today to play around with Windows 8 for a few minutes.

Not as bad as I thought, or as bad as everyone was saying it would be.

I don't need the Start button, and being a PC user that maximizes the full usage of shortcut commands, I adjusted to it pretty quickly.
And the desktop mode is pretty much the same thing. All the shortcuts are the same, so yeah.

I'm actually still on XP, and didn't feel like it was too confusing making this "big leap".
The Charm Bar is there as it is, but it's not something that windows 8 is dependant on to use (which I initially thought it was).

Anyway, I'm due for an upgrade cause my system's 5 years old.
Is there some deal where I can upgrade to Windows 8 from XP for a special deal price?
Just get it here

https://www.windowsupgradeoffer.com/

Use the HK site (possibly others) and you can get the discount without a key.

[.Renn.Sport]

Wow sweet... I never thought about upgrading to Windows 8 at all... but for $20 bucks, might as well for a more updated OS....even at the full retail price, its still far more reasonable than Windows 7

There would probably less ppl pirate windows if they didn't charge fucking $150+ CAD for OEM version and $250+ CAD for retail!

[!SG]

will update after i get back... wonder if ill have compatibility issues like i did with windows 7.

[SkinnyPupp]

I am 5 minutes in and.. umm it's pretty much the same thing minus a start button. There is a start 'screen' now but I haven't looked at that. The one it gave me after the upgrade is cluttered with stuff.

Need to figure out how to get TweetDeck to work

I will say one thing, it is instantly noticeable how much faster it is. And this is with a 2700K with 16GB ram and an SSD. Win7 was already pretty damn fast.

[SkinnyPupp]

I want my Start button back! :okay:

And apps that make use of that 'snap' feature or whatever it's called. I love the feature, but not when it means having to use fucking BING

[SkinnyPupp]

I don't like that you can only have one program 'snapped' at a time.

[StylinRed]

i like how the search function is integrated into everything

i miss the old start button at times but less and less the more i use win8

i would like some customizability in windows start menu apps like the news app id like to add and remove news sources but it doesn't look like you can

otherwise so far so good

the snap function is great but it would be nicer if i could dictate how much of the screen it takes up

[Preemo]

i like how the search function is integrated into everything

i miss the old start button at times but less and less the more i use win8

i would like some customizability in windows start menu apps like the news app id like to add and remove news sources but it doesn't look like you can

otherwise so far so good

the snap function is great but it would be nicer if i could dictate how much of the screen it takes up

darthchili mentioned Bento a few posts up for news.

Just tried it myself and it will do everything you want it to do. Very very slick app.

[SkinnyPupp]

i like how the search function is integrated into everything

i miss the old start button at times but less and less the more i use win8

i would like some customizability in windows start menu apps like the news app id like to add and remove news sources but it doesn't look like you can

otherwise so far so good

the snap function is great but it would be nicer if i could dictate how much of the screen it takes up
I felt like such a noob when I couldn't find the search bar in the app store

[StylinRed]

darthchili mentioned Bento a few posts up for news.

Just tried it myself and it will do everything you want it to do. Very very slick app.

yep got that, i was just hoping the native app would have thought all things through

I felt like such a noob when I couldn't find the search bar in the app store

i was thinking ":seriously: msft no search in the store" ;) then i thought id give it a try and success!

[SkinnyPupp]

The music player can't see any of my music :fulloffuck:

Edit: I had to open Windows Media Player, add the folder ot the library (even thought it was already listed) and click "Continue" for a permissions error dialog... kinda fucky

[SkinnyPupp]

In a way it feels like a transitional OS. Like a touch OS tacked on top of normal Windows 7. Looking forward to checking out the performance, but I have reviews to publish first.

I think it might be more suitable for my laptop. I'll try that tomorrow.

[604nguyen]

is there anyone with a shaw email account that managed to sucessfully set up their email on the new mail client??

i cant get it to work, i used the same incoming/outgoing server and port numbers that i used on my phone and windows 7 machine...no luck!


:okay:

[dasani604]

When does it ask you for a win 7 key? Before or after purchase?

I heard when you actually do the purchase using the upgrade advisor it prompts for a key. Some ppl get it some don't.

Edit, got my key. BTW if you use the en_HK version, you don't even have to enter a Windows 7 key. When I tried using the en-CA version, it didn't accept my old Win7 key.

Yea I'm getting the prompt no matter what I put. Does choosing the en_HK version (or any other country for that matter) effect any settings? I'm assuming it shouldn't since you can change your region in the Region+Language option.

[terkan]

only compatibility issue i have is the usb 3.0 controller driver?? o_O i had to uninstall it for the upgrade

[!MiKrofT]

^weird. I had no issues with the ivy bridge usb3 controller on my laptop. Then again I did do a clean install.

[Preemo]

Yeah same. No issues here with USB 3. One of the strong points in W8 is the native USB 3 drivers/support for it. Try a clean install. Upgrading over an existing Windows install is taboo.

[SkinnyPupp]

Yea I'm getting the prompt no matter what I put. Does choosing the en_HK version (or any other country for that matter) effect any settings? I'm assuming it shouldn't since you can change your region in the Region+Language option.
Nope it's identical. In fact I had to change it to Canada to get it work with my XBOX Live account.

[StylinRed]

only compatibility issue i have is the usb 3.0 controller driver?? o_O i had to uninstall it for the upgrade

only compatibility issue i had was kaspersky and my bluetooth driver; downloaded an update for kaspersky and the driver and i was fine

[scoobyej20]

oh hi "start menu" :fullofwin:

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4453/startz.png

[Canadian Rider]

what? how?

[scoobyej20]

Pokki start menu for Windows 8

https://www.pokki.com/ :fullofwin:

[StylinRed]

that's neat, i knew there would be an app or a mod registry entry etc something that would bring the old look back

and it just seemed crazy that the people dissing windows8 couldn't imagine that

[SkinnyPupp]

This one is more like regular Windows: Welcome to Classic Shell (http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/)

[SkinnyPupp]

Amazed at how unstable most of the Windows 8 apps are. EVERYTHING I have used has crashed at least once. Store, Music, News, EVERYTHING.

[StylinRed]

yeah ive had a few app crashes too think it has to do with msft holding the sdk off for the longest

[SkinnyPupp]

I think it might have to do with the login system.. Their servers are probably under heavy load, and my internet connection is pretty horrible. Hate that it has to log in to listen to my music :\

[StylinRed]

can anyone find the Hulu Plus app? its supposed to be in the store but i can't search for it
perhaps its US Only?

but im running a US DNS :/ i can use the browser hulu but it would be nice to have the app too

[SkinnyPupp]

Set your location in the settings to USA. That's what the store is based on, not IP

[Lomac]

I think it might have to do with the login system.. Their servers are probably under heavy load, and my internet connection is pretty horrible. Hate that it has to log in to listen to my music :\

What do you mean you have to log in to listen to your music? Does your computer have to be accessible to the internet before you can run media files?

[StylinRed]

thanks! that did the trick! now to check out apps from asia the uk and the states lol


not media files lomac but online services think skinny meant xbox music store etc

[SkinnyPupp]

Yeah when you start the music app, it attempts to load "XBOX Music". You can't do anything until that is complete, and if the login fucks up the program crashes

[way2quik]

I installed W8 and there were no app conflicts whatsoever. No USB3.0 driver issues nor MSE (it's still installed and running as I type). :confused:

[AzNightmare]

well this is stupid.
Anyone else having problems saving (or finding the option to save) the ISO file??

[SkinnyPupp]

I am having issues where my Wifi connection drops randomly. Will have to swap it out for an old one

[dasani604]

Went to the Microsoft Store in Metrotown today and played with the Surface. Fully-touch screen, that flipping case keyboard...holy :sweetjesus:

[SkinnyPupp]

makes me want to get a Windows Phone :fulloffuck:
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[scoobyej20]

Went to the Microsoft Store in Metrotown today and played with the Surface. Fully-touch screen, that flipping case keyboard...holy :sweetjesus:

personally, I'd wait and try out the Pro version in person first..

anyway, was there any Surface in stock? thanks

[StylinRed]

makes me want to get a Windows Phone :fulloffuck:
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lol same here (and that frightens me) and that's obviously what MSFT is counting on ;) and likely why the new google Nexus phone is so cheap

if they have a couple more quarters like they've had so far they may as well close up shop though

[SkinnyPupp]

lol same here (and that frightens me) and that's obviously what MSFT is counting on ;) and likely why the new google Nexus phone is so cheap

if they have a couple more quarters like they've had so far they may as well close up shop though
I don't mind so much. I used Windows Phone MUCH longer than I ever used Android... I used Windows Phone before there was even a phone on it :fuckthatshit: then all the way up to the post-iphone era, before switching to Android when they couldn't get their shit together.

I'm not a 'fan' of anything so i will use whatever appeals to me. I will be getting a hand-me-down Galaxy Nexus this week I think, so my opinion may be refreshed after using this single core HTC for 2 years now

BTW I just had to look up on google how to reboot Windows 8 :badpokerface:

The steps:

1) Hover at the bottom or top right corner
2) Move the mouse up or down, but not left or right. This opens the right side panel
3) click "Settings"
4) click "Power"
5) click "restart"

That's a fuck of a lot of steps to restart the PC :seriously:

[!MiKrofT]

^alt-f4 on the desktop.

Figured out the firewall. Was staring me in the face. Doh.

[SkinnyPupp]

All these obscure keyboard shortcuts don't make sense either. For instance every native app supports the search function, but to get there you have to do the same mouse wizardry, then click search.. or you can press windows+c and then click. Why not make is windows+f if it's going to be universal anyway?

[StylinRed]

yeah rebooting/shutting down is annoying i found myself just forcing a shutdown instead because i didnt want to go through the process


I don't mind so much. I used Windows Phone MUCH longer than I ever used Android... I used Windows Phone before there was even a phone on it :fuckthatshit: then all the way up to the post-iphone era, before switching to Android when they couldn't get their shit together.

I'm not a 'fan' of anything so i will use whatever appeals to me. I will be getting a hand-me-down Galaxy Nexus this week I think, so my opinion may be refreshed after using this single core HTC for 2 years now


believe it or not im actually not exclusive to symbian :lol i like android as well but im just so used to using symbian so if there's a fitting symbian phone ill go for it instead i was actually going to switch to droid before the 808pureview came out ;)

i dont mind ios i couldnt use it exclusively though WP7/7.5 however i just hated how the tiles looked i could never imagine me using it then wp8 had me thinking "meh still pretty bad" but after using windows 8 i could see myself using a windows phone the tiles dont bother me anymore

may even get the new nexus phone its such a good price shame there's no expansion slot though

[SkinnyPupp]

I'd be getting nothing if I had to pay for it :lawl:

[SkinnyPupp]

Wifi problems:

Intel 6205 (Wifi-N, PCI-E) would disconnect from router randomly, and unable to reconnect unless I reboot

Asus WL-130N (Wifi-N, PCI) seems to not work well with something else in my system, as I would get crashes while watching video or listening to audio

Trying an MSI MS3871 now. It is USB based :heckno:

[SkinnyPupp]

This USB thing is capped at 2 Mbps... so fuck that shit

I read that disabling C1E can help, and I also disabled GPU acceleration on my video player. Let's see if either of those help.

[SkinnyPupp]

That didn't work. Fuck.

Every time I get a BSOD, it's a different error..

IRQ_NOT_EQUAL

KERNEL_SECURITY_CHECK_FAILURE

NTFS_WHATEVER_FUCK

I might do a fresh install tomorrow.

[!MiKrofT]

Hmm my laptop has no wifi problems. However it's one of the newer ones. N6230.

[dasani604]

personally, I'd wait and try out the Pro version in person first..

anyway, was there any Surface in stock? thanks

There was and they were also selling quite well. All the demo Surfaces were always in use which is a good thing for Microsoft.

I agree with you, I would wait for the Pro as well. I've decided that it is a better investment. I suppose it depends on your budget.

[BigTrollFace]

I actually really like windows 8 now.

BUT i have a dual monitor setup so I have the start screen on right and desktop on left.

[flagella]

^the other way around for me.
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[SkinnyPupp]

I think I found the cause of my BSOD issues. It was the Gigabyte USB on/off charge driver.

Edit: Either that or the Dynamic Energy Saver app.. basically, don't install any utilities yet

[AzNightmare]

I actually really like windows 8 now.

BUT i have a dual monitor setup so I have the start screen on right and desktop on left.

I haven't used windows 8 yet, but I figured I might be doing the same once I do.
Having no option to move the charm bar location seems dumb.

And making the charm bar show up on the right side, which would then be the "center"
of a dual monitor set up seems like Microsoft didn't really think this through.

[SiRV]

just out of curiousity.... can you still use custom desktops/themes with windows 8? Anytime I see anything about windows 8, its just the same collage of colours

[SkinnyPupp]

That is the "Metro" side. The desktop is just like it ever was (only better). You don't even have to look at the Metro side if you don't want to. Install Classic Shell (http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/) and you can ignore it completely.

[way2quik]

Now my USB 3.0 pci card stopped working after 1 day. Ugh.
After diagnosing, I'm beginning to wonder if it's the device that's crapping out and not a driver issue.

At first, I hoped the Metro UI could span across two monitors, but after a few days use, one monitor desktop the other Metro is acceptable. Microsoft's changes to the taskbar makes Ultramon useless unless the extra features is what you're after.

[flagella]

Definitely need more customizability in start screen. I mean is there any way to link that Music/Video tile to a folder you want? Or the only way is to move all your music files to the Music folder in Libraries.

[SkinnyPupp]

Definitely need more customizability in start screen. I mean is there any way to link that Music/Video tile to a folder you want? Or the only way is to move all your music files to the Music folder in Libraries.
You can make it so the Library loads from several locations.

[StylinRed]

Got this Odd issue whenever I boot or wake up the computer my touchpad will have a mind of its own as well as act like i've got 2 fingers on it for a few minutes and then it'll act perfectly from there

Im not sure if its a Win8 issue or what though :fulloffuck:

[roastpuff]

Ack, BSOD's recently regarding netio.sys. Seems to happen when I have lots of stuff going on - Citrix, BitTorrent, browsers and streaming audio.

Anyone else have this happen?

[SkinnyPupp]

Ack, BSOD's recently regarding netio.sys. Seems to happen when I have lots of stuff going on - Citrix, BitTorrent, browsers and streaming audio.

Anyone else have this happen?
That's your network card. Update the drivers

[Mr.HappySilp]

Bought an
HP ENVY dv6-7250ca suppose to be in tmr comes with Win8. Going to play around with it for a bit. If I don't like Win8 I can always downgrade to Win7 but not sure if the drivers will work though.......

[SkinnyPupp]

Downgrading makes no sense. If you don't like Win8, that means you don't like the Metro interface. Since it's completely separate from the rest of the OS, all you have to do is not use it.

[Mr.HappySilp]

^^ Another reason is I am not 100% sure if all the software I use will run fine in Win8. I am sure it will but some of them is not legeal per say so don't want to install them Win8 and have issue.

[-lincolnboi-]

Anyone do the windows 8 accreditation on expert zone and receive a copy yet?

[AzNightmare]

I'm currently on XP 32 bit, and since my PC already got scanned, my installer keeps trying to install win8 32-bit.
Would I be able to fix this if I just d/l win8 64-bit onto my PC, and then activate it with my legit serial key?

Or should I install win7 64 bit, and then do the win8 upgrade process?

[Mr.HappySilp]

Some games on steam doesn't seem to work on win8 for example Metro 2033. i downloaded it on my new laptop and was going to test how the graphics is but I keep getting an error when installing. Is fine on Win7 though.

[DHP 1]

i bought kaspersky 2013 internet security, and i have windows 8.....apparently some error comes out after trying to install twice


anyone know wats wrong with it?


do i need a specific anti virus designed for windows 8?

[Mr.HappySilp]

^^ some programs just don't run on Win8 right now. You are going to have to wait for an update.

[!MiKrofT]

Win8 has built in AV. It's incorporated into Windows Defender now.

[DHP 1]

^

so i shouldnt have to worry about purchasing a AV system for it?

[StylinRed]

i bought kaspersky 2013 internet security, and i have windows 8.....apparently some error comes out after trying to install twice


anyone know wats wrong with it?


do i need a specific anti virus designed for windows 8?

ive got kaspersky 2013 and it works fine, in fact the Win8 install recommended i install it over kaspersky 2012 that i had because that wasn't compatible (kaspersky also states that its compatible with win8)

[DHP 1]

weird

my internet security says the application cannot be installed , current operating system is not supported


3rd try still no luck

[StylinRed]

maybe try and redownload it from kaspersky to see if there's an updated installer?


odd i had no issues and it works great


http://www.kaspersky.ca/products-services/home-computer-security/internet-security

[JesseBlue]

can .net be installed on win 8? i tried it briefly on an emulator and it doesn't...can anyone confirm?

[dasani604]

can .net be installed on win 8? i tried it briefly on an emulator and it doesn't...can anyone confirm?

.Net framework 4.5 is included on Windows 8.

If whatever you're doing requires 3.5, you have to enable it.

Installing the .NET Framework 3.5 on Windows 8 (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh506443.aspx)

[SkinnyPupp]

You can also install 3.5 using this command (run CMD in admin mode if you have UAC on), no internet needed:

dism.exe /online /enable-feature /featurename:NetFX3 /Source:F:\sources\sxs /LimitAccess

F being your Win8 install CD or USB

[JesseBlue]

thanks... the software i'm testing wants .net 1.1... lol...

[dasani604]

Microsoft set up some sort of demonstration booth at UBC using Samsung W8 Tablets (wished they used the Surface instead). It's great to see the usage of it. I had no idea W8 could be so great for multi-tasking

Example of what I was shown:
Cocktail recipe app --> open --> charm bar --> click share --> click Mail --> drag page of Cocktail recipe app from snapped app tray into mail --> it's now in the mail :ahwow:

She also managed to have 3 apps going split on the page, not too sure how she did it. Either way, I can see this being useful productivity wise.

this page also has a lot of shortcuts for us keyboard users
Windows 8 Tricks, Tips and Shortcuts - TechSpot Guides (http://www.techspot.com/guides/506-windows-8-shortcuts-and-tricks/)

[willystyle]

Should I upgrade from Windows 7 or perform a clean install? Traditionally, it's always been to go with the latter, but I want to know what you guys think.

If I have to do a clean install, what's the best way to backup all your applications? I don't want to re-install every single one of them again.

[roastpuff]

I did an upgrade from Win 7 but came away with driver issues. I then did a "refresh" where it basically killed your applications. Much better, and got rid of all the crap that I installed but never use.

If you don't want to have to re-install everything, clean off your drivers or make sure you have the latest versions installed.

[!MiKrofT]

I always reinstall fresh. There's no way to backup your programs without reinstalling.

[SkinnyPupp]

I used to always install fresh, but with Windows 8 you don't have to

[StylinRed]

anyone have issues with the microsoft store? mine just hangs when trying to load it or if i get in the store it hangs trying to install programs

[SkinnyPupp]

Microsoft Store :fuckthatshit:

[StylinRed]

;) wanted some free games; i cant even check for system updates either :/

[SkinnyPupp]

Sounds like an issue connecting to MS at all. I know for myself I can't connect to their update servers with my ISP's DNS, I have to use google's DNS

[!MiKrofT]

No problems here.. Both with downloading system updates and with MS Store.

[StylinRed]

not sure if this is the cause, but i think so


i went into safe mode and ran all my virus/trojan software and one of the programs found a trojan in one of the Apps i downloaded from the Microsoft Store?! was a chinese app QQ or QiQi something like that

Not sure if it was a trojan for certain, but seems that way, as after it was removed i could connect to windows update and connect to the store again (had a tonne of updates to apps and system)

[SkinnyPupp]

wtf are you doing installing shady chinese apps? :heckno:

[StylinRed]

rofl it was a drama/video app at least i think it was

[knight604]

Just installed so smooth, less than 10 minutes.

Could anyone recommend a RSS feed app?

[Simplex123]

Do you guys know where to find the other keys if I bought Win 8 online? I've seen them before but right now I can only find the one in the confirmation email they sent me that I've already used.

[!MiKrofT]

Do you guys know where to find the other keys if I bought Win 8 online? I've seen them before but right now I can only find the one in the confirmation email they sent me that I've already used.
What do you mean other keys? They only give you 1 key per purchase.

[Simplex123]

Really? I SWEAR I saw a few other keys at some point :S

[AzNightmare]

dl-ed win8 64bit, burnt iso on dvd.
changed bios to boot from dvd.

After I reboot and boot disc loads up, I get blank screen with the new light blue windows 8 logo in the center of the screen.
Then nothing happens for about 4 mins.... then the logo disappears and screen just stays black/blank.

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/getfile/198745
(stole this pic from a forum, but I don't even get the "loading circle dots")

Could it be my old motherboard (asus p5w dh deluxe) not compatible with win8?
Or I didn't create the boot disc properly? (how many ways is there to burn an iso file on a dvd??)

I'm using a E6600 right now. Could it possibly be that my cpu isn't compatible with 64 bit?

[n'drew]

I lost the usb install....

anyone know where to download it again? Legit not torrent.

edit: nvm just re ran the installer

[lilaznviper]

^^ E6600 is a 64bit processor, pretty much all c2d and up are 64bit.
I had that problem before but with windows 7. Had to do something with where my hard drive was plugged in. strange but it fixed it

[AzNightmare]

^^ E6600 is a 64bit processor, pretty much all c2d and up are 64bit.
I had that problem before but with windows 7. Had to do something with where my hard drive was plugged in. strange but it fixed it

hmm.. that's strange.

I'm about to swap out all my internals for a major upgrade.
Have all my parts ready, but I wanted to test my boot disc first with my current (old) set up.

I wonder will it work if I try it on my new parts?? :suspicious:

[DHP 1]

I lost the usb install....

anyone know where to download it again? Legit not torrent.

edit: nvm just re ran the installer

how do u re run the installer

[terkan]

man... the more i use windows 8 the more i hate it... i get so much crash and restarts it's not even funny -.-

[SkinnyPupp]

man... the more i use windows 8 the more i hate it... i get so much crash and restarts it's not even funny -.-
Driver issue, I had the same problem before I solved them

[DHP 1]

^

how do u fix it

im having the same issue


kkeeps on crashing, freeezes, lags, even youtube

[SkinnyPupp]

Install "whocrashed" it will help you figure out what is causing the crash, and you can go from there

[willystyle]

I don't like the new Metro UI at all, it's decent for some applications, but horrible at others, especially when you're running "apps" that require intensive scrolling, and intensive menu switching (ie. the new Skype). It gives me a headache just after 5 minutes of usage. How can I use it in desktop format?

[SkinnyPupp]

Classic Shell

[Mr.HappySilp]

Win8 doesn't really bug me all the much. But then I hardly ever use apps or stay in the metro UI. I mostly use firefox, Netflix on firefox(For some reason Hopsopt shield doesn't work with the Netflix app it won't even connect.), video games...... But it does load faster than Win7 so I like that part.

I would use apps if only there are decent ones. It will be great if they have more apps liek CTV(not just CTV news0, CBC, BBC..... and some chinese apps for movie that doesn't install a virus (PPS, lentv.......).

[theevilslave]

I installed Windows 8 a while back, but just the other day I opened up my metro UI and holy I have like 200 different shortcuts of random stuff I installed. Long story short, metro UI should've been optional, it feels like a waste imho never use it.

[willystyle]

I dislike how all of the applications I install end up at the START metro UI menu, so I need to keep jumping back and forth to remove those icons. Like I previously said, Some apps will benefit alot with the Metro UI, but others will be horrible at it, like Skype for instance. I have like 1000 contacts, and everytime I scroll through the lists (horizontal scrolls) or switching skype menus, it gives me a headache, cause the icons and content takes up so much real estate now that it makes me dizzy staring at it.

On the other hand, Windows 8 is faster than Windows 7.

[ZenZa]

man... the more i use windows 8 the more i hate it... i get so much crash and restarts it's not even funny -.-

The more I use Windows 8, the more I love it.

I got a lot of crashes and restarts too, turns out it was because the OC settings that worked on Windows 7 didn't sit too well with 8. Once that was dealt with, I haven't had a single crash since.

[Preemo]

^

how do u fix it

im having the same issue


kkeeps on crashing, freeezes, lags, even youtube

For driver issues, visit MA-CONFIG (http://www.ma-config.com/en). You have to download the program so it can scan your computer for hardware and compare your drivers with the latest ones online. Saw it on LifeHacker and gave it a shot. It actually works really well.

[Preemo]

I dislike how all of the applications I install end up at the START metro UI menu, so I need to keep jumping back and forth to remove those icons. Like I previously said, Some apps will benefit alot with the Metro UI, but others will be horrible at it, like Skype for instance. I have like 1000 contacts, and everytime I scroll through the lists (horizontal scrolls) or switching skype menus, it gives me a headache, cause the icons and content takes up so much real estate now that it makes me dizzy staring at it.

On the other hand, Windows 8 is faster than Windows 7.

This.

Fucking so annoying when I have to clean up my Start Menu.

They definitely should have made that new home screen optional.

[StylinRed]

just right click on each icon and flush em out all at once, so easy and i hardly ever use the start screen i use it even less than i did the traditional start menu so it kind of is optional

[SkinnyPupp]

only time I see it is when I first boot up. and even then it's rare that I shut down of sleep
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[AzNightmare]

:fulloffuck:

Ok, completely mindblasted right now.

So a few questions... how do I sign off my built-in messenger??
I don't really like using the built-in one, cause of the lack of customization or custom emoticons and such.
(which is the only reason why I still like MSN/WLM over all the other IM programs)

Also, if I "uninstall" an app from the Metro, how do I install it back?

[StylinRed]

you go in the store and click on my apps or something like that and it'll show you a list

[AzNightmare]

how do you sign out of the built in messenger app?
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[Acura604]

noob alert.. how do i set win8 to load/launch into classic shell?

thanks!!!!!

[LiquidTurbo]

Quick question, don't wanna read through all pages. Are all win7 programs fully compatible on Win 8?
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[Preemo]

Quick question, don't wanna read through all pages. Are all win7 programs fully compatible on Win 8?
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Everything that I ran before on Win 7 has run on Win 8. Unless you are running some old school legacy apps I am not sure. Anything in particular?

[StylinRed]

Quick question, don't wanna read through all pages. Are all win7 programs fully compatible on Win 8?
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no, kaspersky 2012 isn't compatible needed to get the 2013

if you run the win8 upgrade assistant it will run a compatability check & tell you what if anything isn't compatible It's free to download/use from MSFT here
Upgrade to Windows 8 - Microsoft Windows (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-CA/windows-8/upgrade-to-windows-8)

[AzNightmare]

I'm slowly getting used to Win8. Quite a bit of a learning curve considering I was still on XP.
But it helped that I've been using win7 at work.

I basically keep my desktop clean of icons now, and cram "icons" in the metro UI.
Not bad.

[Manic!]

Saw a Best Buy flyer in the local paper. Samsung I5 tablet for $1299 with Windows RT.:suspicious:

I know it's a mistake but Windows did not do a good job marketing the differences between the 2.

[!MiKrofT]

noob alert.. how do i set win8 to load/launch into classic shell?

thanks!!!!!
You need to install a 3rd party add on. I'm using startisback.

[AzNightmare]

Why is it that pretty much every "copy, moving folder, renaming file" action,

I keep getting this pop up that says something about admin permission?
But I can click Skip or Continue to carry on with my action anyway.

And I only have one account on my PC, so I assume I am the admin.

:suspicious:




Edit:
This is BS. Why the fuck is everything locked up. I can't even save files that I edit, saying my access is denied.
I have to manually right click all my files and click "Take Ownership" before I can save my changes.

This can't be right, is this the default setting for Windows 8?
To lock everything up so idiots that don't know what they're doing can't fuck up their computer?
I don't even think a Mac is this retarded.


Edit 2:
Ok, I just basically selected all my folders in all my harddrives and right clicked to the submenu and hit "Take Ownership".

I feel stupid that I have to even resort to this method just so I can use my computer properly.

(btw, I had to install some third party program to even get that "Take Ownership" option in the submenu)
:fulloffuck:

I must be missing something. I don't think a normal user would have figured this out.

Is all the files SUPPOSED to be locked up?? Maybe this was a "new" thing since Vista, where OS have been catering
to more stupid people. Cause in XP (the last OS I was using), there was no such thing like this...

[StylinRed]

never had that issue


maybe you set your UAC to max unknowingly?

[AzNightmare]

never had that issue


maybe you set your UAC to max unknowingly?

You're talking about that sliding bar (UAC setting), right?
I have it down to "Never Notify"

Seems like it's a common problem when I google the issue.
But no matter what solution method I try, doesn't seem to permanently get rid of these pop-up notifications.

[Jmac]

Have you edited the Registry to disable it?

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\policies\system

Key = EnableLUA
Change from 1 to 0

Restart Computer

[SkinnyPupp]

You're talking about that sliding bar (UAC setting), right?
I have it down to "Never Notify"

Seems like it's a common problem when I google the issue.
But no matter what solution method I try, doesn't seem to permanently get rid of these pop-up notifications.
Are you copying to system folders such as Program Files?

[AzNightmare]

Have you edited the Registry to disable it?

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\policies\system

Key = EnableLUA
Change from 1 to 0

Restart Computer

This seems to have done the trick.

Are you copying to system folders such as Program Files?

I was copying and/or renaming files from pretty much anywhere in my computuer and it was giving me those admin warnings.

[underscore]

I've played with this for a few hours now, and I fucking hate it. Using IE through Metro meant I had to Ctrl + Tab to change tabs, and shutdown is under Settings? I know there are jokes about having to go to Start to shut down in older versions of Windows, but that's just stupid.

[AzNightmare]

There's definitely a learning curve, but I think majority of the people are either just jumping on the bandwagon to hate it or aren't even trying to learn it.

After a week of using it, I've noticed the Metro UI can be completely ignored if one doesn't even want to use it.
It's just an app layout screen, which doesn't replace the desktop at all.
If someone wants to put all their app shortcuts all over the main desktop, they can still do so just like in previous versions.

The other difference is shutting down the computer.
Shortcut is "Ctrl + I". You can then find the power icon there, and shutdown.
Might take a while to get used of not going to the start button to shutdown, but it's really not a drastic and complicated change.

I admit most of the preinstalled Metro apps are useless to me, or I just prefered doing it manually through an internet browser.
And I uninstalled a lot of them, such as the integrated Mail and Messenger.
But as for IE, I never used IE to begin with, and I don't think most people do either.
So that means most people will just be using FF or Chrome anyway on Windows 8.

I'm not saying Windows 8 is perfect, as indicated from my issues just a few posts back,
but then again, not everyone was having the same admin issues as me.
And now after a week, I'm starting to get the hang of it.
I jumped from WinXP, so I'm basically learning win8 and win7 at the same time.

[SaviorSelf_666]

I use a program called pokki for a start button:

https://www.pokki.com/windows-8-start-menu

[SkinnyPupp]

Pokki is crap, use classic shell or start8. Pokki is just a way of getting their app store onto peoples' computers.

[LiquidTurbo]

Window's latest advertising, asking customers to 'take a chance'

Windows 8: You and Me Together - YouTube

[LiquidTurbo]

There's definitely a learning curve, but I think majority of the people are either just jumping on the bandwagon to hate it or aren't even trying to learn it.

After a week of using it, I've noticed the Metro UI can be completely ignored if one doesn't even want to use it.
It's just an app layout screen, which doesn't replace the desktop at all.
If someone wants to put all their app shortcuts all over the main desktop, they can still do so just like in previous versions.

The other difference is shutting down the computer.
Shortcut is "Ctrl + I". You can then find the power icon there, and shutdown.
Might take a while to get used of not going to the start button to shutdown, but it's really not a drastic and complicated change.

I admit most of the preinstalled Metro apps are useless to me, or I just prefered doing it manually through an internet browser.
And I uninstalled a lot of them, such as the integrated Mail and Messenger.
But as for IE, I never used IE to begin with, and I don't think most people do either.
So that means most people will just be using FF or Chrome anyway on Windows 8.

I'm not saying Windows 8 is perfect, as indicated from my issues just a few posts back,
but then again, not everyone was having the same admin issues as me.
And now after a week, I'm starting to get the hang of it.
I jumped from WinXP, so I'm basically learning win8 and win7 at the same time.

I spend a week with metro. I'm really scratching my head as to why try to fix something that wasn't broke by any means. I find it really hard to build a case as to how search function is better on Win8 than Win7. It's really a step backward in my opinion. Metro doesn't really make any sense, and 3rd party work arounds seem to produce better results. I guess if I had to sum up how I feel, metro is just too intrusive to what you're doing on the desktop. Ie, why does it need to be full screen? It's like the start button taking up the full screen.

[CT10]

I think Metro is a great idea in concept, however Microsoft totally screwed it up here. I see the benefits of how convenient things can be once you link up all your accounts to the Mail, Calendar, Contacts, and Skype app, however the execution is lacking.

These built in Microsoft apps are just hard to use and confusing, the Skype app for example is basically a stripped down version of the older one, there's hardly any customization's (I can't share my screen with others, can't start group chats, etc).

After I installed the Start8 menu I've gone back to the old traditional type of Windows and haven't touched Metro in a few days already

[AzNightmare]

I spend a week with metro. I'm really scratching my head as to why try to fix something that wasn't broke by any means. I find it really hard to build a case as to how search function is better on Win8 than Win7. It's really a step backward in my opinion. Metro doesn't really make any sense, and 3rd party work arounds seem to produce better results. I guess if I had to sum up how I feel, metro is just too intrusive to what you're doing on the desktop. Ie, why does it need to be full screen? It's like the start button taking up the full screen.

I think Metro is a great idea in concept, however Microsoft totally screwed it up here. I see the benefits of how convenient things can be once you link up all your accounts to the Mail, Calendar, Contacts, and Skype app, however the execution is lacking.

These built in Microsoft apps are just hard to use and confusing, the Skype app for example is basically a stripped down version of the older one, there's hardly any customization's (I can't share my screen with others, can't start group chats, etc).

After I installed the Start8 menu I've gone back to the old traditional type of Windows and haven't touched Metro in a few days already

I should have made myself more clear, I'm not exactly a big fan of Windows 8.
I'll agree nothing was broken with the older versions, so Win 8 isn't all that necessary. I don't know much about the back-end programming though, so I'll take people's word when they say it is a faster/smoother OS.

But I'll agree the metro wasn't all that necessary. The only thing I'm using it for is basically a secondary/hidden desktop to cram all my icons in there, leaving my main desktop nice and clean.

After a week of usage, all the integrated apps are horrible for the same reasons CT10 stated. And I actually hate how everything is linked up. I ended up reinstalling my own separate apps like WLM and Skype. Yeah, making everything fullscreen is also pointless.

I guess my point is that I don't HATE windows 8. I don't think "being too confused about how to shut down the PC" is a legitimate reason. I actually haven't really noticed the lack of Start button yet. (Maybe I just didn't really use it much on XP either).

But I'll agree windows 8 did do a lot of unnecessary things. Maybe the entire OS was unnecessary.

[underscore]

But as for IE, I never used IE to begin with, and I don't think most people do either.

I wasn't planning on keeping it, but I know a lot of basic users will. Seriously, go try out IE from Metro and tell me what you think. It auto-fullscreens, which is great for anything with a smaller screen, but most people buying a new computer will get a 20"+ screen, where saving space isn't as important anymore (kind of like grouping taskbar icons in Win7. Why?)

[SkinnyPupp]

Why would you use Metro version of IE on anything other than a tablet?

[StylinRed]

Window's latest advertising, asking customers to 'take a chance'

Windows 8: You and Me Together - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xurEdYsEne4&feature=player_embedded)

i like this one


Windows 8: Parkour - YouTube

the japanese song is $

full version of the commercial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnCeeTHNnQ4

[Manic!]

I started this thread but still don't have a computer running Windows 8 but that's about to change. Ordered a Lenovo Twist convertible laptop in November and now it's finally shipped. Should be here next Sunday or Monday.

[AzNightmare]

I wasn't planning on keeping it, but I know a lot of basic users will. Seriously, go try out IE from Metro and tell me what you think. It auto-fullscreens, which is great for anything with a smaller screen, but most people buying a new computer will get a 20"+ screen, where saving space isn't as important anymore (kind of like grouping taskbar icons in Win7. Why?)

lol, a lot of basic users are going to be more upset about can't finding the "shut down" button than the auto-full screen.

But really, I don't use any of the integrated metro apps. I realized on the first day that most of them are stripped down versions of the apps you can just install on your own separately. But since win8 doesn't actually force you to use those apps, just uninstall them all.

I understand what you're trying to say, and I would be pissed off too if I was actually forced to only be able to use the metro apps. But good thing I have other options.

[sonick]

It's retarded how IE in Metro mode doesn't have all the functionality & plugins that the desktop version of IE does.

I do like how quick it boots up though.

[CT10]

Does anyone know how to get Start8 to start up automatically after I boot up the computer?

Everytime I restart, it dissappears...

[AzNightmare]

Is there a way to make the taskbar quick launch like WinXP?
I don't like how when I run the application, the icon becomes expanded (then losing the icon).

I'm not sure if Vista did this, but it was doing this in Win7 as well already.

edit: nvm, solved this by making a QuickLaunch folder with shortcuts and setting it as a taskbar toolbar.

[underscore]

I'm still flipping between my two HDD's trying to decide what to go with, 7 or 8. 8 booted faster but seemed to jam up a fair bit, and having to go third aprty to get rid of Metro seems a bit silly. Is there a way to change Metro into just a strip down the left side of the screen beside the regular desktop(kinda like having the Start menu open all the time) instead of it being full screen?

Why would you use Metro version of IE on anything other than a tablet?

Because that's what it came with, and most basic users aren't going to change it around. Seeing as Metro appears to be designed for basic users (I may be wrong) they threw in some weird features.

[SkinnyPupp]

I'm still flipping between my two HDD's trying to decide what to go with, 7 or 8. 8 booted faster but seemed to jam up a fair bit, and having to go third aprty to get rid of Metro seems a bit silly. Is there a way to change Metro into just a strip down the left side of the screen beside the regular desktop(kinda like having the Start menu open all the time) instead of it being full screen?



Because that's what it came with, and most basic users aren't going to change it around. Seeing as Metro appears to be designed for basic users (I may be wrong) they threw in some weird features.
You don't have to change anything, just go to the desktop (where most desktop users will be) and start IE from there instead.

[AzNightmare]

Because that's what it came with, and most basic users aren't going to change it around. Seeing as Metro appears to be designed for basic users (I may be wrong) they threw in some weird features.

I think Metro was designed for tablets. Hence why it's all fullscreen.
Useful for a tablet since the screen is so small. But very dumb on a desktop.

Due to all the stupid "admin permission" pop ups, I disabled my UAC settings to "0" in the reg key.
Once I did that, every metro app no longer worked and requested that I turn on the UAC settings again before they function.
That's pretty stupid. I just removed all the metro apps now. lol

[SkinnyPupp]

One thing these Metro apps do is show us how comparatively useless tablets are. And these are probably some of the better examples of tablet apps.
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[dasani604]

I think Metro was designed for tablets. Hence why it's all fullscreen.
Useful for a tablet since the screen is so small. But very dumb on a desktop.

Due to all the stupid "admin permission" pop ups, I disabled my UAC settings to "0" in the reg key.
Once I did that, every metro app no longer worked and requested that I turn on the UAC settings again before they function.
That's pretty stupid. I just removed all the metro apps now. lol

Why don't you disable UAC through the settings panels rather than modifying the reg key? That may solve your issue because it's nonexistent for me.

[AzNightmare]

Why don't you disable UAC through the settings panels rather than modifying the reg key? That may solve your issue because it's nonexistent for me.

Because setting the UAC to the lowest setting still gives it a value of "1" in the register key.
And I still get the stupid "admin permission" pop ups half of the time whenever I try to manipulate folders.

[underscore]

You don't have to change anything, just go to the desktop (where most desktop users will be) and start IE from there instead.

Clearly I'm not explaining myself properly, so just ignore those comments.

I think Metro was designed for tablets. Hence why it's all fullscreen.
Useful for a tablet since the screen is so small. But very dumb on a desktop.

That's what I figured, which makes it a bit odd that the PC execution is the same. Considering most people are getting larger PC screens, things like the taskbar grouping and fullscreen Metro seem so odd on a PC.

Due to all the stupid "admin permission" pop ups, I disabled my UAC settings to "0" in the reg key.
Once I did that, every metro app no longer worked and requested that I turn on the UAC settings again before they function.
That's pretty stupid. I just removed all the metro apps now. lol

To me that just confirms that Metro is for basic users.

One thing these Metro apps do is show us how comparatively useless tablets are. And these are probably some of the better examples of tablet apps.
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I haven't used my tablet in...probably nearly a year now because they're so limited.

[Fuhrër-Z]

Just wanted to ask a question to dual/tri screen users. How does the OS handle fullscreen apps on multiple monitors? I'm on a mac right now, and will be jumping ship, but fullscreen apps on OSX is one of the most ill conceived concepts set on an OS. If you fullscreen mode any app, it will fucking blank out the rest of you screens....

I'm so over Mac...Used to be I was one of a few people with a macbook in any given lecture hall...Now...I don't feel so special...haha

[bakasam]

So I linked my Live account with Windows 8 and everytime my computer boots up I have to enter my live password is there a way to disable this?

I've tried going to settings and disabling password upon wake but it doesn't disable it upon Reboot or First Boot

[AzNightmare]

Just wanted to ask a question to dual/tri screen users. How does the OS handle fullscreen apps on multiple monitors? I'm on a mac right now, and will be jumping ship, but fullscreen apps on OSX is one of the most ill conceived concepts set on an OS. If you fullscreen mode any app, it will fucking blank out the rest of you screens....

I'm so over Mac...Used to be I was one of a few people with a macbook in any given lecture hall...Now...I don't feel so special...haha

When a fullscreen app is running (like a game), the other monitors will still display and not blank out.

I was on XP, and upgraded to Win 8. Both OS's do this. I thought this was normal... or it kind of defeats the purpose of having multiple screens...

I like to run my games and have MSN on the other monitor so I can see when/if someone msgs me.

[CT10]

Just wanted to ask a question to dual/tri screen users. How does the OS handle fullscreen apps on multiple monitors? I'm on a mac right now, and will be jumping ship, but fullscreen apps on OSX is one of the most ill conceived concepts set on an OS. If you fullscreen mode any app, it will fucking blank out the rest of you screens....

I'm so over Mac...Used to be I was one of a few people with a macbook in any given lecture hall...Now...I don't feel so special...haha

I was able to play Fifa Manager 13 and Assasins Creed 3 on my laptop while streaming a basketball game on my 24" monitor

I've also been able to watch TV shows on the laptop while streaming basketball on the 24" as well

My graphics card is only a HD Intel 4000

[twitchyzero]

Win 8 Pro x64 vs Win 7 Ultimate x64 both fresh installl...Win8 boosts so much faster
I get the windows starting logo and it lasts less than 2 seconds...I can cold boot in less than 15 seconds it's not much slower than waking up from sleep Win 7 on mechanicl drive...Sandisk Extreme 240GB on latest FW

Now I just need to figure out how to disable Metro UI...the fix on Youtube no longer works...at least for build 9200 :suspicious:

and is there a quicker way to access Shut Down? Pointing to edge of screen> settings> power seems very tedious. Probably gonna bind into a kb macro.

Just wanted to ask a question to dual/tri screen users. How does the OS handle fullscreen apps on multiple monitors? I'm on a mac right now, and will be jumping ship, but fullscreen apps on OSX is one of the most ill conceived concepts set on an OS. If you fullscreen mode any app, it will fucking blank out the rest of you screens....

I've 3 screens on Nvidia and apps stretch across all screens when fullscreened. I guess you just resize if you are a multitasker. For my everyday tasks I just use a single monitor in Duplicate Mode ( so left and right screen goes into standby)...when I wanna game in Surround I just toggle Windows Key + P to go PC Screen Only and 3 monitors are enabled.

[TOPEC]

i know not everyone is too fond of win8/8.1 but ive been using it since release without much of a problem except for 1 that is kind of annoying.

the computer started acting this way some time ago n its just a hassel. out of no where, the metro UI would crash/"go missing" weather id be using the computer or leave it unattended and come back with the metro ui missing.

the wallpaper would disappear leaving a black background, right clicking anything on the desktop would not work and just shows the outline of the right click menu in blk, with nothing to click on, if i move my mouse to the top right corner it bring up the 5 icons but clicking them does nothing, and if i move my mouse to the bottom left to click on start, it'll try to bring up the metro ui but all the icons go missing

its as if back in the days on winxp/vista/7 where "explorer.exe" crashes, but in this case, the metro ui. anyone have any idea on what i should be looking into short of a fresh windows install?