[Traum]

Honda warns dealers to clear out 2012 Civic stock, 2013 emergency refresh on sale Nov. 29 (http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/23/honda-warns-dealers-to-clear-out-2012-civic-stock-2013-emergenc/)

Thanks to an anonymous tipster, Autoblog has learned that the so-called "emergency refresh" of the Honda Civic is just around the corner. In fact, the automaker is already urging its dealers to clear out remaining 2012 model year stock because "The changes made to the 2013 model will make the outgoing 2012 Civic a difficult model [to] sell when they are side to side." Those are the words of David Hendley, Assistant Vice President of Honda National Sales excerpted from a recent letter to dealers. The communiqué goes on to note that the refreshed Civic will go on sale on November 29 – a date, we note, that coincides with press days for the Los Angeles Auto Show.

According to Hendley's letter, buyers can look forward to "dramatic improvements to the exterior styling that moves Civic into a more premium sporty direction." The text also promises that the 2013's interior will receive "upgrades and improvements to bring more sophistication and quality to its appearance." For his part, American Honda President Tetsuo Iwamura has previously been quoted as saying that changes will be made to "improve the Civic's drivability," suggesting suspension and powertrain alterations are afoot as well.
In other words, don't go out and buy a brand new Civic now. Either wait for the emergency refreshed 2013 model, or wait for the big discounts on the current 2012 models.

[snails]

every year they get more ugly :okay:

[ForeverYours]

I still have a soft spot for the older EKs

never really did like the current generation ones and probably not looking forward to seeing their updated one
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[TypeRNammer]

USDM Civics really need the Modulo grille...

http://www.fastmotoring.com/wp-content/gallery/2013-honda-civic-launching-in-malaysia/img_4089.jpg

[Akinari]

The 9th gen Si sedans look great in my opinion, in comparison to the 8th gen Si sedans.

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6092/20120426170508.jpg
http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z389/ttrungnguyen94/blahyo/241343_10151011094000178_1751658077_o.jpg

[twitchyzero]

dont mean to turn this into an old>new civic thread

personally I think the EF sedans has the most character (excluding the FD2R)
in terms of coupe/hatch it's hard to beat the EK chassis

that said I saw a modded 9g sedan the other day..damn it looked good

[see.lai]

I wonder what it will look like..

[CT10]

I don't understand how there could be an "emergency" refresh? According to the article, it seems like these new changes will be so drastic that it could hinder the 2012's sales? If that's the case, surely there's got to be leaked images out, how could Honda keep the production of the new civic under wrap and then suddenly tell all dealers to clear out the 2012 models without having a media session or leaked images?

Seems weird to me...

[bensta]

ive heard rumors of a hatchback for the 2013 model? not sure if true

[Sky_High]

ive heard rumors of a hatchback for the 2013 model? not sure if true

Usually it's only for Euro countries.... :considered:

http://www.zacar.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/2013-Honda-Civic-1-.jpg
http://www.zacar.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Honda-Civic-4.jpeg
http://autocarsrelease.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/2012-Honda-Civic-EU-Version-Rear-Angle-800x600.jpg

Not quite sure how it would... "dramatic improvements to the exterior styling that moves Civic into a more premium sporty direction." :pokerface:

[bensta]

4500 rpm redline :fuckthatshit:

(probably a diesel, i know)

[Spectre_Cdn]

I don't understand how there could be an "emergency" refresh? According to the article, it seems like these new changes will be so drastic that it could hinder the 2012's sales? If that's the case, surely there's got to be leaked images out, how could Honda keep the production of the new civic under wrap and then suddenly tell all dealers to clear out the 2012 models without having a media session or leaked images?

Seems weird to me...

It's not really an emergency, since Honda announced they would refresh it a couple months into 2012. It's just the wording given from the media to exaggerate it. It's more like a reminder to the dealers.

[inv4zn]

Honda's latest styling has been "evolutionary."

Their 8g -> 9g cars, Civics, Accords, CRV's, etc, haven't seen the big change as they've seen from the 7g -> 8g.

Not necessarily a bad thing, since it's subjective. The interior on the other hand :heckno:

I've been in both coupes and sedans of both 8g and 9g, and 9g feels terribly cheap. They tried to mask the cheapness by making it funky, but it just makes it worse IMO.

Hopefully they address this in this "refresh"

[Traum]

It's not really an emergency, since Honda announced they would refresh it a couple months into 2012. It's just the wording given from the media to exaggerate it. It's more like a reminder to the dealers.
It is an emergency in the sense that the 9th gen car was universally panned by all automotive journalists, including those from Consumer Reports. IIRC, the CR review ranked them dead last (or 2nd last) when the 8th gen car was still earning their CR recommended distinction.

Typically, you don't see facelifts on cars until well into the 3rd or 4th year of the car. For the 9th gen Civic to get a major facelift only 1 year after its initial sale, that in itself showed how much of an emergency it was to Honda.

[RE-Jo]

At least Honda is willing to admit to that there is a problem with their "products" of late, and make changes that seem to be going in the right direction (I.E. new Accord).
I am excited to see what the new civic will look like.

[k3lv]

I like the 9th gen sedan! Nice lines, not too aggressive but still sporty look. 2.4L 200hp 160tq on the Si? Feelin it

[optiblue]

I don't understand how there could be an "emergency" refresh? According to the article, it seems like these new changes will be so drastic that it could hinder the 2012's sales? If that's the case, surely there's got to be leaked images out, how could Honda keep the production of the new civic under wrap and then suddenly tell all dealers to clear out the 2012 models without having a media session or leaked images?

Seems weird to me...

It's like the 5 or 6 blackberry phones that are to be released next year. No one knows because no one cares anymore. The civic has become overpriced for what it actually is. Those who want the sporty si version could get a FRS or the veloster turbo for more power. And say you wanted it for pure gas savings, there's the Mazda 2, prius C etc. IMO, I would like to see a civic type R, but even that won't save it. Maybe if they made the civic look like a super car haha
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[extracrunchie]

So what are the new enhancements?

[platinum300]

I have a feeling it may look similar to the Acura ILX

[TypeRNammer]

I can see the Acura ILX having a major update one year from its initial release date...
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[Viggen]

Usually it's only for Euro countries.... :considered:

http://www.zacar.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/2013-Honda-Civic-1-.jpg
http://www.zacar.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Honda-Civic-4.jpeg
http://autocarsrelease.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/2012-Honda-Civic-EU-Version-Rear-Angle-800x600.jpg



WHERE ARE THE GOD DAMN DOOR HANDLES FOR THE REAR DOORS??!!!

[radioman]

Just like the Juke and Veloster if I recall correctly.

http://i.imgur.com/dSTuLl.jpg

[Energy]

The interior of the current civic is a sea of hard plastic. I hope the refresh comes with soft touch materials... that really helps a car feel more upscale.

[Eff-1]

Good old days.

http://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/honda/civic/1995/oem/1995_honda_civic_2dr-hatchback_si_fq_oem_1_500.jpg

[Traum]

At least Honda is willing to admit to that there is a problem with their "products" of late, and make changes that seem to be going in the right direction (I.E. new Accord).
I am excited to see what the new civic will look like.
True, Honda did eventually came around to recognize the shortcomings in the Civic, and by the look of things, they also seem to finally catch on to the fact that the overwhelming majority of their current products suck, and are gradually taking action to correct it. I guess the message only took a good 8 - 10 years to sink in?

Let's hope they can get back into the game and make us some fun cars all over again.

[Gridlock]

The civic is really only a name now, as the cars with that badge have absolutely nothing to do with those that came before.

[TypeRNammer]

http://world.honda.com/news/2012/4121022Sao-Paulo-International-Motor-Show/photo/images/02.jpg

http://world.honda.com/news/2012/4121022Sao-Paulo-International-Motor-Show/photo/images/03.jpg

Meanwhile in Brazil, Honda releases a jacked up suspension Honda Fit.

[tofu1413]

so does this make it the 9.5 gen.....?

reminded me of how subaru switched from bug eye to the peanut eye to the "aerospace" / pig nose within two model years each.

but seriously honda? after only 1 year? :seriously:

thank god i had my deposit refunded on a four door Si that I wanted to buy earlier this year.....

[bloodmack]

civics :lawl:

[skylinergtr]

i'm not a fan of the recent styling of the civics, but man have civics come a long way.

Sure, one could argue that the older models are more fun to zip around in, but the newer ones (2006+) are very smooth and comfortable. Whenever i drive one I feel like i should get one for a DD.

[Lomac]

I realize they look nothing alike, but the 9g Civic has always put me in mind of some of GM's product... the Cobalt, Cavalier, etc. The design just looks lazy, cheap and far too generic. That's not to say it's a bad car; rather, it's as if Honda didn't bother trying at all.

The Corolla looks better, and, sadly, that's saying something...

Edit: I went car shopping with my dad the other day as he's looking for a smallish commuter car and the Civic was one of the cars we checked out. Sure, while they're definitely an upgrade from previous models, it just doesn't quite compare to most of the other cars in the compact class anymore. It's no longer the benchmark that it once was.

[heleu]

Another way to look at the article is that this is probably a good time to get a significant discount on a 2012 Civic...

[mos_skeeto]

They went thought a lot of work to upgrade it for the Acura ILX. I wonder if the new civic will look like a rebadged ILX.

[LiquidTurbo]

New NSX

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/664603_381759771903834_1971211756_o.jpg

[Shorn]

^ not sure what that has to do with civics

[JesseBlue]

naw, thats the refreshed civic with an acura logo :pokerface:

[donjalapeno]

its not Honda Japans fault for having shitty designs and stupid mechanical decision its Honda of NA that makes all these bullshit decision -__-

but in other words, the hondas in japan arent anything special nowadays anyway...mostly econo boxes

[mos_skeeto]

http://www.stuck-in-reverse.com/comics/2012-10-26-fun-house-mirror.jpg

[Harvey Specter]

I have a 2013 civic as a winter beater, it's a pretty decent car to boot around. However, I do agree with the interior been a complete mess and annoying. I hate the fact other drivers can basically know how fast you're driving or what station or song you're bumping. I guess Honda thinks most of their owners are 60+ with bad eyes.

[Sky_High]

I have a 2013 civic as a winter beater, it's a pretty decent car to boot around. However, I do agree with the interior been a complete mess and annoying. I hate the fact other drivers can basically know how fast you're driving or what station or song you're bumping. I guess Honda thinks most of their owners are 60+ with bad eyes.

No you don't. You have a 2012 Civic.

[KO7]

I have a 2013 civic as a winter beater, it's a pretty decent car to boot around. However, I do agree with the interior been a complete mess and annoying. I hate the fact other drivers can basically know how fast you're driving or what station or song you're bumping. I guess Honda thinks most of their owners are 60+ with bad eyes.

Mindblown. I've always pegged you as someone who would have a lowly Audi S4 or something for a winter beater. :fullofwin:

[buddha1]

imo, you cant go wrong with a clean em1 :sweetjesus:

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll96/Dragonboy_013/Honda%20Civic%20SIR%201999/IMG_0182.jpg

[jpark]

I have a 2013 civic as a winter beater, it's a pretty decent car to boot around. However, I do agree with the interior been a complete mess and annoying. I hate the fact other drivers can basically know how fast you're driving or what station or song you're bumping. I guess Honda thinks most of their owners are 60+ with bad eyes.

You clearly haven't been in a real beater to call a 2012 civic a beater. should see my 1989 accord hatch beater from couple years ago that was almost dead from rust. That's what you call a beater

[Qmx323]

#first world problems

2013 civic as a beater

:joy:

[donjalapeno]

i hate how people know how fast im going in my 2013 civic beater..wahhh

http://www.whoisbolaji.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/target-audience-crying-kid.jpg

[Harvey Specter]

Lol, I shouldn't have put "winter beater", what I meant to say was a everyday car I use for work and stuff. And I do drive my A5 during the winter but I decided to get myself a car that's much more reliable, better on gas for running around and not worry about wear and tear.

And my mistake, I meant to say 2012, not 2013.

[twitchyzero]

^ not sure what that has to do with civics

and uses a video game rendering :badpokerface:

[Lancerion]

Spy shots of the refresh:

Spied! 2013 Honda Civic Revealed with Accord-Like Front Styling - WOT on Motor Trend (http://wot.motortrend.com/spied-2013-honda-civic-revealed-with-accord-like-front-styling-285789.html)

http://stwot.motortrend.com/files/2012/11/2013-Honda-Civic-prototype-spied-front-three-quarter-view-1024x640.jpg

http://stwot.motortrend.com/files/2012/11/2013-Honda-Civic-prototype-spied-rear-view-1024x640.jpg

[Sky_High]

^ :seriously:

Different headlight.....slightly different taillights.....and different front grille (that's very similar to the 2012 Si's). That's about it.

"The changes made to the 2013 model will make the outgoing 2012 Civic a difficult model [to] sell when they are side to side."

These changes are surely gonna
"dramatic improvements to the exterior styling that moves Civic into a more premium sporty direction."

:pokerface:

[AVS_Racing]

still ugly :heckno:

[68style]

I can't stand this high centre of gravity rounded down to the ground look they have gone for in recent years... reminds me of a late 90's Ford Escort... and not in a good way:

http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/vehicle-pictures/2003/ford/zx2/98113311990401-480.jpg

[inv4zn]

Holy wheel gap!

It doesn't look refreshed at all...are those projector headlights?

[Lomac]

:heckno:

[CorneringArtist]

:heckno:, would take a new Corolla over that, and even that looks like shit.

[tofu1413]

:ohgodwhy:

[dared3vil0]

Wow 9th gen si and this new one look like shit. So happy i ended up buying an 8th gen si...

[tiger_handheld]

i really like 2006/2007 civics. everything after is junk.

[AVS_Racing]

no jdm model no care

last of the great civics, should have just imported these and called it a day

http://image.superstreetonline.com/f/8456632+w750+st0/130_0804_03_z+2008_honda_mugen_civic_rr+front_view .jpg

[twitchyzero]

:heckno:

but the new accord looks great IMO...probably the best looking accord yet

http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/2013_Honda_Accord_Coupe_r34.jpg
http://image.motortrend.com/f/39490988+w569+h356+ar1/2013-Honda-Accord-Sport-Sedan-front-three-quarters-in-motion.jpg

[optiblue]

lol that looks exactly like the 2012 models! I was expecting the difference to be like hyundai tiburon and the Genesis coupe! This won't blast sales IMO. EM1 and EK FTW! why they won't bring over the mugen sedan or the type-r civics is beyond me. N
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[Lancerion]

Honda debuts "honed" 2013 Civic

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/11/12/honda-debuts-honed-2013-civic/

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/11/001-2013-honda-civic628opt.jpg

http://www.hondanews.com/photos/abcf/d187/abcfd187-0fe5-4207-afd2-6eb107979689-500x353.jpg

[CorneringArtist]

Not bad, but not good either.

[inv4zn]

It's an improvement, if anything.

I have a co-worker that was super happy because Honda called him 2 months ago and offered him an "upgrade" to the 2012 civic and trade in his 2009, on same terms.

I wanted to tell him he's an idiot but he had already signed the papers...lol.

[nns]

It's an improvement, if anything.

I have a co-worker that was super happy because Honda called him 2 months ago and offered him an "upgrade" to the 2012 civic and trade in his 2009, on same terms.

I wanted to tell him he's an idiot but he had already signed the papers...lol.

I've never heard of this. What were the conditions? Was he still making payments on his '09?

[optiblue]

It looks better than the 2012 butt lift, but it doesn't scream out buy me like the veloster, Genesis, and frs. They should have made electric versions and under cut the prices of the leaf, miev, or the volt. I would have got one had there been an electric version at down to earth prices.
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[Acura604]

looks great!

[twitchyzero]

i like it
the Avalon styled taillights make it look slightly more upscaled
don't like the futuristic looking wheels though

[Qmx323]

Looks a bit more aggressive,

Me Rike

[Energy]

I want to see the inside now.

[Akinari]

Looks much better than the current sedan. I wish Honda took the photos at proper angles instead of shooting them from above...

As far as the interior goes, I see very nice Accord-esque leather seats inside.

[see.lai]

The front is nice, the back.. eh..

[Limitless]

Looks muuch better than the current 9th gen, though those wheels might have gotten a lot worse

[wontons]

The tail lights remind me of a scion tc.... +1 for the uglier wheels.

[Mkhun]

+1 for rear-ends.

much better than current rear-ends.

imho, cars these days have similarities regards of designing everywhere.

8th gen coupe look-a-lie c class coupe, 9th gen sedan look-a-like genesis' ass, blah blah blah.

Don't wanna complain which car looks more like which car.

it must've took lots of time and effort for designers to come up with newer design when it comes to newer generation of each vehicles or face-lifted ones.

(i mean, that's what they're for).







unless, its ferraris, labos, etc. :awwyeah:

[dat_steve]

Looks much better than the current sedan. I wish Honda took the photos at proper angles instead of shooting them from above...



seems to work with chicks, why not do this with cars :badpokerface:

[jeffh]

if the new Accord is any indication, Honda knows whats up, it just took a long time to get there

i havent been impressed with the Civic since 2000. my 93 has 291 000 kms on it, i neglect the fuck out of it and its still the best car ive ever owned

[donjalapeno]

i dunno what some guys are smoking but the refresh looks great compared to this monstrosity of blandness

http://images.cars.com/supersized/DMI/24091/CS006589.jpg

atleast now it looks classy and almost like a mini 2013 accord

[Lomac]

It definitely looks a lot better, at least in pictures. I'm more interested in seeing how it looks in person, along with what internal adjustments have been made.

[Akinari]

+1 for rear-ends.

imho, cars these days have similarities regards of designing everywhere.

8th gen coupe look-a-lie c class coupe, 9th gen sedan look-a-like genesis' ass, blah blah blah.

Don't wanna complain which car looks more like which car.

it must've took lots of time and effort for designers to come up with newer design when it comes to newer generation of each vehicles or face-lifted ones.


Keep in mind part of it has to do with crash test regulations and pedestrian safety standards, which lead to everyone having similar bumper dimensions/height and such, as well as aerodynamics and fuel economy standards which necessitate certain greenhouse shapes.

But as far as styling characteristics go, I see what you mean. Shapes of tail lights and headlights and other minor aesthetic values do seem to be "copied" from manufacturer to manufacturer, to a certain extent...

[JesseBlue]

the model is the 'top model'...i still think it's still pretty bland..

[dsot]

Not bad :considered:

Would make a decent daily driver....

[knight604]

:badpokerface:

[see.lai]

Honda Civic Type-R Might Get 2.0T, 300HP | AutoGuide.com News (http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012/11/honda-civic-type-r-might-get-2-0t-300hp.html)

hmm.... i wonder if it's real

[LP700-4]

Most likely not. We dont get anything fun or rare here.

[insomniac]

edit

[AW607]

Honda Civic Type-R Might Get 2.0T, 300HP | AutoGuide.com News (http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012/11/honda-civic-type-r-might-get-2-0t-300hp.html)

hmm.... i wonder if it's real

Just like how they may have had a factory supercharged accord for 2013 :suspicious:

[CT10]

2013 Civic Sedan Previewed Ahead of LA Auto Show - Page 6 - RedFlagDeals.com Forums (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/2013-civic-sedan-previewed-ahead-la-auto-show-1256134/6/#post15848925)

more pics

[Lancerion]

^Wow, interior is 100x better!

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o49/Ice512/2013-Honda-Civic-interior.jpg

[inv4zn]

:notbad:

[ilovebacon]

Not bad..
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[tofu1413]

shouldve previewed the bread and butter model.. wonder how the base / cloth ones look like on the inside.

[bloodmack]

6th gen or go home!

[falcon]

I dunno. My mom has a 2012 Civic and I really enjoy driving it, and IMO looks fine. It's a basic mid size mid priced family car. Does what it's supposed to do.

[ruthless]

Looks good...
can someone photoshop this pic to take away the 4x4 stance...slam it
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o49/Ice512/2013-Honda-Civic-side.jpg

[Energy]

That's a nice exterior and interior. It even has stitching on the dash!

They re-used the 8th gen si wheels too... I always liked that style.

[ForeverYours]

Looks good...
can someone photoshop this pic to take away the 4x4 stance...slam it
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o49/Ice512/2013-Honda-Civic-side.jpg

:accepted: I'll give it a go

http://i47.tinypic.com/2n1ci0o.png

it actually looks nice...
:fuuuuu: I WANT.

I can photoshop other parts of the car like rims etc.

[JesseBlue]

i like the wheelsbut i'm not sure they come in standard...picture the car with hubcaps..

[jpark]

i wanna see the si

[ForeverYours]

One on SI alloys, one on hubs


http://i49.tinypic.com/jjo5ds.png
http://i45.tinypic.com/en1mq.png

[EvoFire]

^ Pretty sure they aren't going to give you 17 or 18" hub cabs lol

[TypeRNammer]

:heckno:, would take a new Corolla over that, and even that looks like shit.

Still want your new Corolla? :troll:

[CorneringArtist]

Still want your new Corolla? :troll:

Still not feeling that front end :okay:. It works much better with a hatchback than a sedan/coupe.

[rk604]

got some time before class...i think it looks nice with it slammed + red. The edges have a bit of green...didn't have much time to adjust

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-7liG5i8wdhg/ULYzxrN97xI/AAAAAAAAAYI/kqXp5366Uis/s576/Honda-Civic-4.jpg

[ForeverYours]

^ Pretty sure they aren't going to give you 17 or 18" hub cabs lol


Had to make them bigger so it looks nice..
lips were also stretched... it will never look that nice low anyways :okay:
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[ForeverYours]

doublepost my bad

[jbald]

The new 2012 civic sedan looks good when it's modded, also it kinda grows on you the longer you see it... and I did hear rumours about the fn2 style being brought over but who knows...

[Lomac]

Meh. Still not feeling the look of the thing. I like that Honda acted as fast as they did, but I think the styling just isn't right. But, to be honest, I think it's the entire redesign they did a few years back that I still haven't grown to like. The shape (and two-tiered dash) annoys me.

[EvoFire]

Had to make them bigger so it looks nice..
lips were also stretched... it will never look that nice low anyways :okay:
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I know I was just poking fun at you :fullofwin:

No harm meant

[kristianhay]

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/5248/2013civ.jpg

:notbad:

[ForeverYours]

Too much time on my hands... slammed it even more + lip spoiler :fullofwin:

http://i48.tinypic.com/1owztg.png

[TypeRNammer]

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd417/nealpmcdaniel/CSSID13_2.jpg

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd417/nealpmcdaniel/CSSID13_1.jpg

[Lancerion]

Honda debuts the 2013 Civic that will fix everything

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/11/29/2013-honda-civic-la-2012/

[Acura604]

meh..still based on that fugly 06 shape..

BUT...

approx fuel econ in the AUTO.

7.1city / 5.0hwy

pretty good.

[Timpo]

Why are people so crazy about Civics in America and Canada?

Civics were never popular in Japan... In fact, Honda doesn't even sell it in Japan anymore due to poor sales.

[mos_skeeto]

^ Because the Civic got larger and larger while they have cool little cars like:

http://i.imgur.com/MH8g1.jpg

[jbald]

The civic photochop doneby muffin makes the car looks 100x better

[jbald]

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd417/nealpmcdaniel/CSSID13_2.jpg

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd417/nealpmcdaniel/CSSID13_1.jpg


car needs a modulo kit or hfp kit

[CT10]

9thcivic Gallery :: 2013 Honda Civic (http://9thcivic.com/gallery/2013-Honda-Civic?page=1)

[ForeverYours]

9thcivic Gallery :: 2013 Honda Civic (http://9thcivic.com/gallery/2013-Honda-Civic?page=1)

Hmm.... needs low.... :considered:
http://9thcivic.com/gallery/albums/2013-Honda-Civic/01_2013_honda_civic_si.jpg



:accepted:

MuffinMaster Civic Edition

http://i47.tinypic.com/14v0mtw.png


BONUS :fullofwin:
http://i48.tinypic.com/zn8z5t.png

anyone want to see a certain color/rims?

[Energy]

Those brakes are huuuuuge.

[ForeverYours]

Gotta go bbk :fullofwin:

[jbald]

Hmm.... needs low.... :considered:
http://9thcivic.com/gallery/albums/2013-Honda-Civic/01_2013_honda_civic_si.jpg



:accepted:

MuffinMaster Civic Edition

http://i47.tinypic.com/14v0mtw.png


BONUS :fullofwin:
http://i48.tinypic.com/zn8z5t.png

anyone want to see a certain color/rims?

:megusta:

mufin your killing me here with all these photochop, I can see the potential of these cars too look good ahahaha makes me what to get one lol

[!Aznboi128]

Gotta go bbk :fullofwin:
looks like those discs add-ons cause its so big lol

[donjalapeno]

Hmm.... needs low.... :considered:


anyone want to see a certain color/rims?

Yeah on fake 15 inch bbs rs and rusted hood with roof rack and fenders sticker bombed and of course slammed beyond the ability to drive....


:troll:

[ForeverYours]

Yeah on fake 15 inch bbs rs and rusted hood with roof rack and fenders sticker bombed and of course slammed beyond the ability to drive....


:troll:

Roof rack and BBS?
I'll try it later :fullofwin:
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[ForeverYours]

Looks good with the roof rack cargo box :fullofwin:

http://i45.tinypic.com/2e34poh.png


Edit: Might as well throw this one out there
http://i46.tinypic.com/34obtbp.png

Edit2: This took a lot of time to edit... turned out great! Basically slammed it
http://i48.tinypic.com/2wqwlza.png

More ideas anyone? I'm done for now.... ENJOY.

[Ikkaku]

Lip spoiler with a roof spoiler :concentrate:

The trunk seems really small though... Will have to see it in person

[Spectre_Cdn]

I like the blue one. An Electron Blue Pearl one would be nice. :drunk:

The wheel sizes and the low-pros are starting to get excessive though :lawl:

[Akinari]

I still like this one the best. Dragging down the bumpers just makes the car look silly and fat.

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/5248/2013civ.jpg

[Traum]

Seems like the revamped car is getting some pretty positive reviews (as expected):

2013 Honda Civic Review - Keeping Up With Expectations - YouTube

[TypeRNammer]

Wow they brought back the 8th gen SI wheels!

[jjson]

Not sure if this is posted already, but Happy posted that it'll be on sale in Canada on the 10th.
2013 Honda Civic on sale December 10th across Canada | Happy Honda (http://www.happyhonda.com/en/articles/2013-honda-civic-on-sale-december-10th-across-canada/150498/)

[jpark]

ccw's? lol
http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z379/jpark881/Untitled-2-6.jpg

[ForeverYours]

In all honestly I still think the new 2013 Civic looks bland and boring
It would look a lot better if had the JDM Civic headlights and grills, looks more refined

http://www.fd2.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/fd2-honda-civic-type-r-5.jpg
http://www.modifiedplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/car-photo-2009-honda-civic-sedan-mugen-rr.jpg

[Akinari]

Fun fact:

There is no such thing as "JDM headlights/taillights" for the Civic because it was Honda Japan who saw the design of the Acura CSX, and told Acura they wanted to use the same design on the Japanese Civic.

Only difference is cleared-out side markers and the grill of course.

EDIT:

:fuckthatshit: Si please, or Accord.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8204/8247726003_263b4b236d_o.png

[sonick]

A good article about this snafu:

How Honda hustled to redo Civic (http://www.autonews.com/article/20130107/ZZZ_SPECIAL/301079735/how-honda-hustled-to-redo-civic)

[tofu1413]

Fun fact:

There is no such thing as "JDM headlights/taillights" for the Civic because it was Honda Japan who saw the design of the Acura CSX, and told Acura they wanted to use the same design on the Japanese Civic.

Only difference is cleared-out side markers and the grill of course.

EDIT:

:fuckthatshit: Si please, or Accord.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8204/8247726003_263b4b236d_o.png

and the hood... and the tails..... most cant see it though. "JDM Civic" is our "CDM CSX"


having seen and driven the 13', the little things are so much nicer: interior materials being addressed... i mean i havent seen a honda with that much hard plastic before.... the 12's were just... no thanks.

[dared3vil0]

and the hood... and the tails..... most cant see it though. "JDM Civic" is our "CDM CSX"


having seen and driven the 13', the little things are so much nicer: interior materials being addressed... i mean i havent seen a honda with that much hard plastic before.... the 12's were just... no thanks.

Yup. That's why i like my 8th gen Si so much compared to the 9th's...

[Akinari]

I drove a 2011 DX sedan the other day. Though the interior is meh, the overall driving experience is so bland it's not even worth talking about. Numb steering, lousy brake feel, not enough power even when the gas is slammed on the ground. The entire car just feels numb.

[dared3vil0]

I drove a 2011 DX sedan the other day. Though the interior is meh, the overall driving experience is so bland it's not even worth talking about. Numb steering, lousy brake feel, not enough power even when the gas is slammed on the ground. The entire car just feels numb.

2011 is 8th generation... We're talking about 9TH gen, And that's what you get when you drive a 140hp commuter car. The Si is much better.

[hongy]

2011 is 8th generation... We're talking about 9TH gen, And that's what you get when you drive a 140hp commuter car. The Si is much better.

The 2011/2012 civic was so shitty that we bought a corolla and that thing was more engaging. :badpokerface:

[dared3vil0]

The 2011/2012 civic was so shitty that we bought a corolla and that thing was more engaging. :badpokerface:

I wouldn't call any of that segment "engaging" :badpokerface: Civic (non Si), Corolla, Altima (2.5), Elantra, etc. All boring.

[Traum]

I wouldn't call any of that segment "engaging" :badpokerface: Civic (non Si), Corolla, Altima (2.5), Elantra, etc. All boring.
The current Elantra is actually not bad. Throttle travel vs actual mapping isn't very linear, and the springs are hopelessly soft. But the chassis is top notch, so if you can get a handle on the luxury boat body motions (ie. very, very smooth driving), it can still be sort of fun.

[Akinari]

I wouldn't call any of that segment "engaging" :badpokerface: Civic (non Si), Corolla, Altima (2.5), Elantra, etc. All boring.
On the contrary, the 2.5 Altima is pretty damn fun compared to everything else you listed. I had a chance to drive one around for a week and it accelerates pretty damn quickly, at least it feels like it is because of that whiny bitch of a CVT. Car handles firmly and doesn't feel even remotely sloppy like the Civic does.

And since when as the Altima in the same segment as a Civic? :derp:

[dared3vil0]

On the contrary, the 2.5 Altima is pretty damn fun compared to everything else you listed. I had a chance to drive one around for a week and it accelerates pretty damn quickly, at least it feels like it is because of that whiny bitch of a CVT. Car handles firmly and doesn't feel even remotely sloppy like the Civic does.

And since when as the Altima in the same segment as a Civic? :derp:

:badpokerface:

[hongy]

I wouldn't call any of that segment "engaging" :badpokerface: Civic (non Si), Corolla, Altima (2.5), Elantra, etc. All boring.

Yeah I wouldn't either, yet everyone in my family felt that the corolla was more "engaging" then the civic...yeah the 2012 civic was a giant pos, if the COROLLA drove better lol.

[tofu1413]

Sentra is same segment as Civic.

And I sell Nissans... :badpokerface:


I also had a short 3 week stint at Honda... (quit because I hated working at that dealer)


12' Civic's interior materials are in fact inferior to the Sentra (to my surprise, usually its always been the other way around, I usually find the Honda product superior.... )

then you compare model to model, the Sentra is much more premium feel and build than the 12' Civic!! Same with features! Sentras have higher end optional features! (dual zone climate control, NissanConnect, back up camera, keyless ignition and entry.. )

They screwed up big time with the initial release 9th gen, although they have sold tons. most average joes buy them because.... well, its a Civic! the car already has established value and quality....

I could say, the Civic is no longer the segment leader of this class overall...


7 gen to 8 gen was a huge step forward.... 12' Civic 9 gen is basically half a step backward.... 13's are nice. they are better, but there isnt really anything GREAT or noteworthy about them.


akinari kun, wait till you drive the 13' Accord... I could say its even better than the Altima Overall. Feels much more nimbler, interior is higher quality and better built.... and touring models come with twin LED projector lowbeams... :sweetjesus:



note: this is my NO bias opinion. Its an opinion from a car guy point of view, not a scumbag Nissan salesman pov.

[dared3vil0]

Sentra is same segment as Civic.

And I sell Nissans... :badpokerface:


I also had a short 3 week stint at Honda... (quit because I hated working at that dealer)


12' Civic's interior materials are in fact inferior to the Sentra (to my surprise, usually its always been the other way around, I usually find the Honda product superior.... )

then you compare model to model, the Sentra is much more premium feel and build than the 12' Civic!! Same with features! Sentras have higher end optional features! (dual zone climate control, NissanConnect, back up camera, keyless ignition and entry.. )

They screwed up big time with the initial release 9th gen, although they have sold tons. most average joes buy them because.... well, its a Civic! the car already has established value and quality....

I could say, the Civic is no longer the segment leader of this class overall...


7 gen to 8 gen was a huge step forward.... 12' Civic 9 gen is basically half a step backward.... 13's are nice. they are better, but there isnt really anything GREAT or noteworthy about them.


akinari kun, wait till you drive the 13' Accord... I could say its even better than the Altima Overall. Feels much more nimbler, interior is higher quality and better built.... and touring models come with twin LED projector lowbeams... :sweetjesus:



note: this is my NO bias opinion. Its an opinion from a car guy point of view, not a scumbag Nissan salesman pov.

Well said. One thing i noticed about my old Maxima, Was everything felt solid and well made. (5th gen) not so sure about the mewer ones though. Actually, Does the Altima sedan 3.5 still come with a 6MT? If so, What's the price for one?

[tofu1413]

Maxima interior is still very nice..

way better materials and finish overall compared to altima.

Altimas are no longer offered in 6 speed manuals........ V6 models add manual shift mode, with 7 "speeds"

[Eff-1]

Sentra is same segment as Civic.

And I sell Nissans... :badpokerface:


I also had a short 3 week stint at Honda... (quit because I hated working at that dealer)


12' Civic's interior materials are in fact inferior to the Sentra (to my surprise, usually its always been the other way around, I usually find the Honda product superior.... )

then you compare model to model, the Sentra is much more premium feel and build than the 12' Civic!! Same with features! Sentras have higher end optional features! (dual zone climate control, NissanConnect, back up camera, keyless ignition and entry.. )

They screwed up big time with the initial release 9th gen, although they have sold tons. most average joes buy them because.... well, its a Civic! the car already has established value and quality....

I could say, the Civic is no longer the segment leader of this class overall...


7 gen to 8 gen was a huge step forward.... 12' Civic 9 gen is basically half a step backward.... 13's are nice. they are better, but there isnt really anything GREAT or noteworthy about them.


akinari kun, wait till you drive the 13' Accord... I could say its even better than the Altima Overall. Feels much more nimbler, interior is higher quality and better built.... and touring models come with twin LED projector lowbeams... :sweetjesus:



note: this is my NO bias opinion. Its an opinion from a car guy point of view, not a scumbag Nissan salesman pov.

Biggest fail on the new Sentra is the manual gearbox is only available on the base model. If you want any of the option packages, they make you also take a CVT transmission. What a shame.

[tofu1413]

that is correct.

S and SV models come with 6 speed manuals.

SR pkg only comes with automatic........ although alot of enthusiasts wont really buy an SR.. it only looks nice.

there is a confirmed SE-R in the works.... totally looking forward to that.

[Eff-1]

I would think enthusiasts will consider the SR package because it adds the rear disc brakes. But regardless, it's too bad you can't any package (like the Luxury or Premium package) without CVT. Nissan is basically saying sorry if you want a sunroof, leather navi or Bose system, you can't have the six speed.

[tofu1413]

SR premium pkg is a nice car.. although no 6 speed.

enthusiasts would really have to wait for the SE-R


on another note, four door 9 gen Si...... are torquey. k24 motor is more driveable than the k20z3... a shame they neutered the motor with that integrated exhaust manifold design..

[Traum]

on another note, four door 9 gen Si...... are torquey. k24 motor is more driveable than the k20z3... a shame they neutered the motor with that integrated exhaust manifold design..
But apparently, the K24 in the 2012 Civics are kind of problematic in that the pistons and rings are common points of failure, even when the engines are extremely new.

Really makes you wonder where the heck the legendary reliability Honda was once known for has gone...

[dn53]

^ haven't heard of that before, any articles/threads on it? No 12 si's have yet to come to my dealer for any outstanding issues like that.
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[tofu1413]

^ havent heard of that either.



the k24 is simply a tsx bottom end with a new engine head design...

im guessing its one of those internet things where a guy was revving the living piss out of a non broken in motor, then told the whole world the k24 is crap..

[Traum]

^ haven't heard of that before, any articles/threads on it? No 12 si's have yet to come to my dealer for any outstanding issues like that.
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See post #11, #13, and a few others. I think the symptoms are oil consumption, and Honda seems to have a TSB issued for it as well.

2013 HONDA CIVIC - Honda-Tech (http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=3107992)

[BrRsn]

I wouldn't call any of that segment "engaging" :badpokerface: Civic (non Si), Corolla, Altima (2.5), Elantra, etc. All boring.

Elantra is actually surprisingly fun IMO. The tiptronic isn't half bad and the engine is rev happy .. Definitely one of the nicer compact cars I've driven at work. Interior looks good even after a few months of service.

Corolla is boring as hell to drive and the interior looks like shit after only ~15,000kms. Everything in it screams economy from the radio, to the shifter, to the steering wheel.

Altima CVT :heckno: Not a fan of the drive mechanism but interior holds up to regular wear and tear fairly well

Ford Focus Titanium - self parking, very refined interior, nice good quality touch screen, really nice sound system, bluetooth audio streaming w/ ford sync. We have a few of these with more than 20-30k and the interior still looks pristine

Only car I haven't actually driven is the new civic .. would be fun to see how it compares

[tofu1413]

^ dont bother with the civic if you have driven then focus :heckno:

so much better inside... on a DOMESTIC!

even the dodge dart looks nicer inside..

[dared3vil0]

SR premium pkg is a nice car.. although no 6 speed.

enthusiasts would really have to wait for the SE-R


on another note, four door 9 gen Si...... are torquey. k24 motor is more driveable than the k20z3... a shame they neutered the motor with that integrated exhaust manifold design..

Damn. I honestly would buy a new Altima sedan 3.5 6MT if that existed. I will never buy a CVT. Ever. Nissan has really left the sport sedan w/ a 6MT out in the rain this time... Maxima's are all CVT's now, Aren't they?

[tofu1413]

nissan no longer offers a V6 6MT sedan...


funny thing is the Accord base, sport and touring models have the 6 MT option w/ 4 banger option..

[dared3vil0]

nissan no longer offers a V6 6MT sedan...


funny thing is the Accord base, sport and touring models have the 6 MT option w/ 4 banger option..

That is depressing. Nissan's VQ series is one of my favorite motors, But i want a manual. They have really cut off alot of people with not offering atleast a 5/6 speed auto. Anyone who used to buy Nissan's for their practicality and still enjoyed a sporty car will be looking elsewhere...

[tofu1413]

Honda switched to cvt with their accord.. a matter of time that the civic does too!

[Timpo]

oh shit!

http://stwot.motortrend.com/files/2012/11/2012-2013-Honda-Civic-front-end-1024x640.jpg

[Timpo]

and shit!

http://stwot.motortrend.com/files/2012/11/2012-2013-Honda-Civic-rear-end-1024x640.jpg

[dared3vil0]

and shit!

http://stwot.motortrend.com/files/2012/11/2012-2013-Honda-Civic-rear-end-1024x640.jpg
The 2013 looks immeasurably better. Now, I DIDN'T say good, I said much better.