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Viggen
10-24-2012, 08:13 PM
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/10/acura-nsx-show-car-628.jpg

Acura NSX production car headed for Detroit debut? (http://www.autoblog.com/2012/10/23/acura-nsx-production-car-headed-for-detroit-debut/)

knight604
10-24-2012, 08:15 PM
cant beat classics.

twitchyzero
10-24-2012, 08:17 PM
please...no Acura beak grille in the production model.

asr
10-24-2012, 09:55 PM
looks similar to Audi R8

kakucaekz
10-24-2012, 10:00 PM
Simplify the front of the car and it'd be sooooo much nicer. Also heard that it's gonna be a gas-electric combination, gas engine powers the rear wheels and electric motors power the fronts during cornering or something. Dunno if it's true, just read somewhere.

westopher
10-24-2012, 10:23 PM
Not a fan of the headlights, but I like it. As said though looks VERY similar to an r8.

mas604
10-24-2012, 10:23 PM
It's a shame it's not taking after the original NSX with that nice exotic shape and mid-engine.

Spectre_Cdn
10-24-2012, 10:26 PM
^it is mid-engine

but also AWD and a hybrid - could be a good thing, but it has almost nothing in common with the original(s), other than the placement of the engine

:badpokerface:

MindBomber
10-24-2012, 10:46 PM
I love the side mirrors.

DragonChi
10-24-2012, 10:56 PM
Theres no way the production is going to look like that... if it ever comes out.

I could be wrong, it is on the acura.ca website.
Acura Canada (http://www.acura.ca/future-vehicles)

ShanghaiKid
10-25-2012, 01:27 AM
sure as hell isn't ugly. might not match up to the expectations people have for the original 90's nsx, but I'm fairly certain we'll all still have eyegasms when we catch one rolling by, despite what some of us think right now.

sekin67835
10-25-2012, 01:45 AM
Looks like a bird. Hopefully, it drives as fast as it looks
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heleu
10-25-2012, 07:38 AM
Sorry, I'll believe it when they actually show the production model.

There was the HSV concept that was "production ready". That went nowhere.
(except for Japan race tracks).

dsot
10-25-2012, 07:52 AM
Can't wait to buy one.....



:ilied:

radioman
10-25-2012, 08:50 AM
It's the car I'm most anticipating. I love how, um..... futureistic it looks.

Has some really sexy lines and I don't mind the beak.

dark0821
10-25-2012, 09:54 AM
Sorry, I'll believe it when they actually show the production model.

There was the HSV concept that was "production ready". That went nowhere.
(except for Japan race tracks).

LOL.... i know how you feel, bro

just trying to forget the HSV all together... -.- still wondering why it never gotten the green light...

Sushi604
10-25-2012, 09:56 AM
I love the side mirrors.

Sadly those side mirrors will never make it to production

beproud
10-25-2012, 04:42 PM
Beautiful!!!! I want!

TypeRNammer
10-25-2012, 04:46 PM
Honda NSX - YouTube

Want this!

Not that! :fuuuuu:

SpeedStars
10-25-2012, 05:01 PM
Honda NSX - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0OTEZDAb9c)

Want this!

Not that! :fuuuuu:

Well that sure doesn't look like OP's NSX:badpokerface:
looks more like this onehttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ezI1LhqZnH0/TbQgJ-zccEI/AAAAAAAAAvg/Ld0MHd1R_2s/s1600/new-honda-nsx-artist-rendering.jpg

I hope Honda revives their prelude... there's not that many sport fwd cars anymore :(

JAYWALKER
10-25-2012, 10:00 PM
very futuristic look, i like it.

Yodamaster
10-26-2012, 12:23 AM
Honda NSX - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0OTEZDAb9c)

Want this!

Not that! :fuuuuu:


Except that looks nothing like an NSX.

I personally love the new look, I'm usually pretty stern on changing a classic shape, but I think it's close enough.

Viggen
10-26-2012, 02:04 AM
I still rather have the Saab!

http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/images/12/2009/02/saab_aero_x.jpg

extracrunchie
10-26-2012, 07:58 AM
why can't the NSX look like this http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/gallery.php/d/127993-4/09-honda-hsv-010-spy.jpg

Lomac
10-26-2012, 08:03 AM
Not too bad. However, the whole front clip of the car needs to change... or maybe it's just the Acura shield that's preventing me from liking it... :lol

vafanculo
10-26-2012, 08:23 AM
The Acura shield makes it look cheap and doesn't belong in its class.

Kinda like taking Mac n Cheese to an all pasta buffet
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BillyBishop
10-26-2012, 08:25 AM
I love the side mirrors.

I wonder if they'll change again. They already look different than the ones on the concept I saw at CIAS just this past spring.

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj547/Boundless121/CIAS%202012/2012-02-18205754.jpg

see.lai
10-26-2012, 08:38 AM
Honestly, it doesn't look that bad. It's just that we're all used to the old 90's to 00's design. I'm sure it'll grow on us someday.

But yeah, lose the beak..

freakshow
10-26-2012, 08:47 AM
Honestly, it doesn't look that bad. It's just that we're all used to the old 90's to 00's design. I'm sure it'll grow on us someday.

But yeah, lose the beak..

That's the problem.. when you release your flagship supercar and use the same name as a legendary car, it has to blow people away.. can't settle for "doesn't look that bad"

sexyaccord
10-26-2012, 10:46 AM
is this the same car they showed in last years superbowl commercial with Jay Leno and Jerry Seinfield?

beproud
10-26-2012, 11:36 AM
Yes, that is correct

Benz_05TSX
10-26-2012, 12:11 PM
look so sleek... so similiar to Ferrari and Lambos... no more NA1/2 rawness!!

JoshuaWong
10-26-2012, 12:51 PM
I think it looks amazing, maybe could use a bit of tweak here and there... but its something different which means it'll stand out among other supercars. And for once that Acura grill works for me, wish I could afford one cuz I'll buy one in a heart beat... it'll probably be too expensive tho...:okay:

Timpo
10-28-2012, 12:46 PM
Im curious to see the performance numbers..

better be faster than the GT-R

orgasm_donor
10-29-2012, 10:57 PM
Thats how it looked in the Superbowl commercial. I like it a lot except for the lame Acura grille thingy. Even then at least its not as big of a shield as the other Acura models.

Hurry up and make the damn thing will ya Acura?

Im curious to see the performance numbers..

better be faster than the GT-R

Better have a manual transmission you mean?

PJ
10-30-2012, 06:45 AM
Looks good.. but I'll believe it when I see it.

Timpo
11-01-2012, 12:10 AM
Thats how it looked in the Superbowl commercial. I like it a lot except for the lame Acura grille thingy. Even then at least its not as big of a shield as the other Acura models.

Hurry up and make the damn thing will ya Acura?



Better have a manual transmission you mean?

If you wanna driving pleasure or fun factor, go buy a miata or elise.

these kind of cars need to go fast. look at Veyron, Aventador, Enzo, LFA, GT-R...none of them have manual tranny.

KO7
11-01-2012, 05:07 AM
Well that sure doesn't look like OP's NSX:badpokerface:
looks more like this onehttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ezI1LhqZnH0/TbQgJ-zccEI/AAAAAAAAAvg/Ld0MHd1R_2s/s1600/new-honda-nsx-artist-rendering.jpg

I hope Honda revives their prelude... there's not that many sport fwd cars anymore :(

That looks like a Nissan Z successor.

!SG
11-01-2012, 08:51 AM
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/394976_10152244529415381_1684495603_n.jpg

shenmecar
11-01-2012, 12:49 PM
I wonder if Iron Man 3 will sport another prototype NSX.

pingu81
11-01-2012, 12:55 PM
Some "old vs new" pics from a photoshoot done by Edmunds:

http://media.il.edmunds-media.com/non-make/fe/fe_5071229_1600.jpg

http://media.il.edmunds-media.com/non-make/fe/fe_5071233_1600.jpg

pastarocket
12-19-2012, 09:40 AM
This report indicates that Acura may price the NSX above the GTR's price.

Acura to Price New NSX Above GT-R (http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2012/12/18/Acura-to-Price-New-NSX-Above-GT-R-7712070/)

Yodamaster
12-19-2012, 12:59 PM
That looks like a Nissan Z successor.

Kill me now.

european
12-19-2012, 01:05 PM
Some "old vs new" pics from a photoshoot done by Edmunds:

http://media.il.edmunds-media.com/non-make/fe/fe_5071229_1600.jpg

http://media.il.edmunds-media.com/non-make/fe/fe_5071233_1600.jpg

sweet photos! I like the old NSX better then this new one.

vantrip
12-19-2012, 01:31 PM
Why didn't they put in a nice high-revving V10 like the lfa, instead of this hybrid stuff. We all know how the new cr-z turned out.

MPower23
12-19-2012, 11:28 PM
im not feeling it !like the older one better

Eros250
12-20-2012, 01:24 AM
Well that sure doesn't look like OP's NSX:badpokerface:
looks more like this onehttp://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ezI1LhqZnH0/TbQgJ-zccEI/AAAAAAAAAvg/Ld0MHd1R_2s/s1600/new-honda-nsx-artist-rendering.jpg

I hope Honda revives their prelude... there's not that many sport fwd cars anymore :(

Whoa that looks nice, wish Honda would build something like that

M3Powered
12-22-2012, 01:33 PM
BRING BACK THE CLASSIC !

Timpo
12-23-2012, 09:45 AM
http://forum.mazda6club.com/attachments/other-cars/43347d1129962957-nsx-r-hsc.jpg
http://forum.mazda6club.com/attachments/other-cars/43348d1129963155-nsx-r-hsc2.jpg
http://forum.mazda6club.com/attachments/other-cars/43346d1129962932-nsx-r-hsc5.jpg

Timpo
12-23-2012, 09:46 AM
So that concept car was still recognizable as an NSX.

Now it's just an Audi R8 knock off WTF.

extracrunchie
12-23-2012, 04:11 PM
http://imageshack.us/a/img856/6899/hondasupergtracerwidesc.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img805/6899/hondasupergtracerwidesc.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img338/6899/hondasupergtracerwidesc.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img801/6899/hondasupergtracerwidesc.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img18/6899/hondasupergtracerwidesc.jpg

I'd take this one over the proposed NSX

EDIT: It worked for me, but tried with a different image uploader.

Timpo
12-23-2012, 07:30 PM
^ I can't see shit bro

noventa
12-23-2012, 08:01 PM
^
But you get an 'A' for effort!

extracrunchie
12-24-2012, 01:02 PM
^
But you get an 'A' for effort!

Hopefully it works now, Honda's GT car :alonehappy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G59RW4gV1BA

TypeRNammer
01-15-2013, 01:48 PM
http://img2.netcarshow.com/Acura-NSX_Concept_2013_800x600_wallpaper_01.jpg

http://img2.netcarshow.com/Acura-NSX_Concept_2013_800x600_wallpaper_03.jpg

http://img2.netcarshow.com/Acura-NSX_Concept_2013_800x600_wallpaper_07.jpg

http://img2.netcarshow.com/Acura-NSX_Concept_2013_800x600_wallpaper_08.jpg

http://img2.netcarshow.com/Acura-NSX_Concept_2013_800x600_wallpaper_0b.jpg

http://img2.netcarshow.com/Acura-NSX_Concept_2013_800x600_wallpaper_0c.jpg

http://img2.netcarshow.com/Acura-NSX_Concept_2013_800x600_wallpaper_0e.jpg

http://img2.netcarshow.com/Acura-NSX_Concept_2013_800x600_wallpaper_1b.jpg

pastarocket
01-15-2013, 02:20 PM
Those NSX alloy wheels have carbon fibre fins.

New Honda NSX concept | Auto Express (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/honda/nsx/62344/honda-nsx-leaked)

sonick
01-15-2013, 02:54 PM
Nice.

tgill
01-15-2013, 03:38 PM
ACURA NSX CONCEPT: 2013 Detroit Show - YouTube

k3lv
01-15-2013, 03:47 PM
As far as the concept goes, I dislike everything about it

beproud
01-15-2013, 05:10 PM
Pretty sweet looking, but with any concept vehicles, gotta wait and see eh

donjalapeno
01-15-2013, 05:14 PM
god damn thats hot. I love the wheels and interior

RE-Jo
01-15-2013, 07:12 PM
was that video made in GT5?

TypeRNammer
01-15-2013, 07:43 PM
was that video made in GT5?

The creators of Gran Turismo made the video.

EDIT:

From what I recall, Polyphony Digital made videos for certain car manufactures.

Good example is when the Nissan GTR made its world debut, Polyphony Digital made the world debut on GT5 simultaneously.

ApePee2
01-15-2013, 09:13 PM
love the interior :sweetjesus:

?uestlove
01-15-2013, 09:17 PM
how many parts of that car will be interchangeable with older honda/acura models?? i'd love to swap that dash and steering wheel into a DA integra.

and those rims would probably work too if i convert to 5 lug

GabAlmighty
01-15-2013, 09:18 PM
I only see 2 pedals..

SolidPenguin
01-15-2013, 09:32 PM
I only see 6 cylinders. And a big hunk of lithium ion under it.

Where'd the v10 go?!

THORISHERE
01-15-2013, 09:44 PM
Time to start saving up! :D

Timpo
01-15-2013, 10:43 PM
Time to start saving up! :D
Yea it's a nice car

What's the retail on one of those?

JoshuaWong
01-15-2013, 11:01 PM
Did a quick Photoshop. Added lip, side skirt, diffuser, GT wing, BBS FI, front and rear reflectors.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/396074_10151356191504153_325477363_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/3363_10151356191544153_1483639071_n.jpg

Timpo
01-15-2013, 11:31 PM
http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/686024-2/Acura-NSX-Concept-II-angle.JPG
http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/686080-2/Acura-NSX-Concept-II-open-door.JPG
http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/686040-2/Acura-NSX-Concept-II-far.JPG
http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/686096-2/Acura-NSX-Concept-II.JPG
http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/686072-2/Acura-NSX-Concept-II-headlight.JPG
http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/685311-1/Acura-NSX-Concept-Interior-01.JPG
http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/685318-1/Acura-NSX-Concept-Interior-02.JPG
http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/685325-1/Acura-NSX-Concept-Interior-03.JPG

striderblade
01-16-2013, 06:04 AM
wait so the shifter is a buttons?
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pingu81
01-16-2013, 06:51 AM
paddle shifters

Gumby
01-16-2013, 09:20 AM
Kinda sucks how the Ford logo is so prominent in those pics...

Akinari
12-17-2014, 06:55 AM
Decided not to start a new thread and just revive this thread. I was positive there was a more recent NSX thread but I couldn't find it for the life of me going through the pages of the automotive subsection or spending 5 minutes searching for it.

But it's finally here, the production version.

Here's Your First Look at the 2016 Acura NSX [w/ Video] ? News ? Car and Driver | Car and Driver Blog (http://blog.caranddriver.com/heres-your-first-look-at-the-production-acura-nsx-w-video/)

http://youtu.be/w0RJsqrS0NY

twitchyzero
12-17-2014, 11:14 AM
designed and to be built by Honda America
no manual transmission
the only thing going for it is the hybrid system

what made the original unique was the cabin-forward design and its history...this looks just like a flashy Accord/RSX replacement, at least in the press photos.

I think the current R8 (which practically is the modern-day NSX) will be the last great everyday supercar and hold its value well...even the new gen will eliminate the 6-speed.

jinxcrusader
12-17-2014, 03:15 PM
I'd rather have the new type R civic wagon than this NSX if it's going to look like OP...

right angle
12-17-2014, 04:16 PM
no clue why everyone is going on about how it's unlike the original or how the HSV is what Honda should have put out

Firstly, every single image of the HSV posted is a genuine super GT car. You can take nearly any car, put it in race dress and make it look fantastic. Take away the massive wing, splitter, super-low ride height, huge 6 spoke bronze wheels, hood spoiling, diffuser, brake ducts, massive exhaust, naked carbon, etc. and i'm sure the HSV road car would be little more than a boring blob. Unfortunately not everyone shares the taste of us car enthusiasts who appreciate and admire hyper aggressive functional body styling. The image that you project, driving around a literal GT race car in the streets is not the kind of image the majority of people who buy exotic sports cars want (I'm betting).


Secondly, I get that everyone loves the original NSX, because I do too. Full aluminum suspension and chassis, the birth of vtec, yo, slamming ferraris and porsches for a fraction of the price, slamming GT-Rs without any of those silly turbo things. Pure 90's golden age design.

But just blatantly rehashing its design is not the answer for a modern successor. If they did this (http://forum.mazda6club.com/attachments/other-cars/43347d1129962957-nsx-r-hsc.jpg), it would just be lazy, riding on the original's coattails, pandering, and completely without its own character or identity. Like a cover band or something. You can't just keep carting out the same lines that were probably penciled in 1988 or something, doing that, you completely fall behind the curve.

I'm not saying that the actual design of the new NSX is great. I like it from about 30% of the angles I see it at, but the HSV or a slightly blobbed out 1991 NSX would not have been the answer. Going hyper-modern was definitely the right choice, and i'll reserve judgement on this car until I see its specs and price..

Oh and watching the most recent teaser it looks like Honda had some sense knocked into them about wheel design. The rear end looks really nice too. Everything else looks similar to the slightly older concepts posted itt though.

Great68
12-17-2014, 04:45 PM
But just blatantly rehashing its design is not the answer for a modern successor. If they did this (http://forum.mazda6club.com/attachments/other-cars/43347d1129962957-nsx-r-hsc.jpg), it would just be lazy, riding on the original's coattails, pandering, and completely without its own character or identity. Like a cover band or something. You can't just keep carting out the same lines that were probably penciled in 1988 or something, doing that, you completely fall behind the curve.


Works for some car manufacturers....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/88/VolkswagenBeetle-001.jpg/280px-VolkswagenBeetle-001.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/1969_silver_Porsche_911E_coup%C3%A9_Auto_Salon_Sin gen_Germany.jpg/220px-1969_silver_Porsche_911E_coup%C3%A9_Auto_Salon_Sin gen_Germany.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b9/F1000026.JPG/220px-F1000026.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Porsche-964.jpg/220px-Porsche-964.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/15/Porsche_993_GT2.jpg/220px-Porsche_993_GT2.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/2002_911C4S.JPG/220px-2002_911C4S.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Porsche_Carrera_4S_front_20080519.jpg/220px-Porsche_Carrera_4S_front_20080519.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/Porsche_911_Carrera_S_%287522427256%29.jpg/220px-Porsche_911_Carrera_S_%287522427256%29.jpg

BBMme
12-17-2014, 04:50 PM
Haven't been this excited for a super car in a long time

right angle
12-17-2014, 05:05 PM
Works for some car manufacturers....
911 et al

I wasn't really "around" for it, but didn't the transition from 993 -> 996 piss off a lot of people? Now imagine that same transition except going from the 964. The NSX has had a 10 year gap. Porsche has managed to make "the same design" work well because the 911 is something of a legend, and, they just gradually change it over time.

Akinari
12-17-2014, 08:32 PM
I think the most important thing people entirely fail to realize is, exotic cars tend to be "ahead of their time," whereas the old NSX was way ahead of its time, so is this new one.

I never understand why people complain about how something new was not like it was before, like how the new GT-R is not like the old ones, how the new Z cars are not like the old Z cars, how the new Civic Si is nothing like the Type-Rs etc. etc.

The market has to move forward, technology has to move forward, things change. If things never changed, automotive technology would still be stuck in the 90s.

:facepalm:

Timpo
12-17-2014, 09:05 PM
I think the most important thing people entirely fail to realize is, exotic cars tend to be "ahead of their time," whereas the old NSX was way ahead of its time, so is this new one.

I never understand why people complain about how something new was not like it was before, like how the new GT-R is not like the old ones, how the new Z cars are not like the old Z cars, how the new Civic Si is nothing like the Type-Rs etc. etc.

The market has to move forward, technology has to move forward, things change. If things never changed, automotive technology would still be stuck in the 90s.

:facepalm:Z car, Civic Si and Type-Rs are not exotics.

twitchyzero
12-17-2014, 11:06 PM
The market has to move forward, technology has to move forward, things change. If things never changed, automotive technology would still be stuck in the 90s.


you mean get heavier (GT-R notably), V6 Turbo in favour of NA V8 (M4), lose 6 speed in favour of split-second DCT (just about every supercar) just so it looks better on paper?

I'm not knocking on the new NSX's advancement...but if it's a completely different type of layout/tranny made from a separate team...they should've named it something else? It doesn't even line up with the rest of Acura's naming scheme (TLX, ILX etc). At this point we dont even know if it's gonna be sold as a Honda outside of North America.

Akinari
12-18-2014, 12:35 AM
you mean get heavier (GT-R notably), V6 Turbo in favour of NA V8 (M4), lose 6 speed in favour of split-second DCT (just about every supercar) just so it looks better on paper?

GT-R is heavy, but handles and accelerates superbly and is really a great car.
6cyl turbo over NA V8 = better torque and emissions compliance
DCT once again is for emissions really

Emissions and safety regs is what has ultimately brought the automotive industry to what it is now, for better or for worse...

multicartual
12-18-2014, 12:49 AM
No manual transmission?

We exist in the age of the faggot

90's cars > today's cars

Fuck we grew up with Hammersmith and Iona, 264th and epic shit-talking, manual transmissions and hard launches that you needed skill for

Now your grandmother could pull a 10 in a GT-R while shitting into a diaper

Fuck you

multicartual
12-18-2014, 12:52 AM
Emissions and safety regs is what has ultimately brought the automotive industry to what it is now, for better or for worse...


Can't wait for the day where my car scolds me for swearing and drives me home instead of allowing me to hit my dealer for some blow

Car: "Jason you need to go home and sleep, your girlfriend will not like you drinking more and doing drugs"

Me: "Fuck you car, drive me to Cordova and Carrell"

Car: "Sorry Jason, you're going home, I'm activating the seat belt restraint feature as you are becoming non-compliant to Bill C-69 which prevents aggressive men from having control over a steering wheel. I am now injecting you with a sedative so you calm down."

Me: "Fuck you caaaaar...... zzzz..."

Great68
12-18-2014, 05:40 AM
Now your grandmother could pull a 10 in a GT-R while shitting into a diaper



http://content.worldcarfans.co/2014/3/14/big/6989649581144844498.jpg

AudiFreak
12-18-2014, 08:24 AM
I believe the UK version has already sold out (100 units) of the production year. I just hope we don't see these with ICBC 'N' badges anytime soon.

westopher
12-18-2014, 10:50 AM
No manual transmission?

We exist in the age of the faggot

90's cars > today's cars

Fuck we grew up with Hammersmith and Iona, 264th and epic shit-talking, manual transmissions and hard launches that you needed skill for

Now your grandmother could pull a 10 in a GT-R while shitting into a diaper

Fuck you
Lol this made me LOL fucking hard. Now this is where your writing background just fucking shines. The imagery created was second to none. I could picture a drunk mid-30s man just smashing his keyboard and yelling at his screen.:fuckyea:
If cars keep going this way it could be great for my bank account. At this rate in 10 years when I consider buying a brand new "sports car" straight off the lot I'll just say fuck that shit and buy some 20 year old M3 from craigslist again because its the only way I'll get a clutch.

white rocket
12-18-2014, 11:21 AM
No manual transmission?

We exist in the age of the faggot

90's cars > today's cars

Fuck we grew up with Hammersmith and Iona, 264th and epic shit-talking, manual transmissions and hard launches that you needed skill for

Now your grandmother could pull a 10 in a GT-R while shitting into a diaper

Fuck you

great statement and quite true but the bolded made me spit up my coffee. +1 to you :hat:

shenmecar
12-18-2014, 05:36 PM
I believe the UK version has already sold out (100 units) of the production year. I just hope we don't see these with ICBC 'N' badges anytime soon.

Then stay out of Richmond.

twitchyzero
12-18-2014, 10:32 PM
no clue why everyone is going on about how it's unlike the original or how the HSV is what Honda should have put out

Firstly, every single image of the HSV posted is a genuine super GT car. You can take nearly any car, put it in race dress and make it look fantastic. Take away the massive wing, splitter, super-low ride height, huge 6 spoke bronze wheels, hood spoiling, diffuser, brake ducts, massive exhaust, naked carbon, etc. and i'm sure the HSV road car would be little more than a boring blob. Unfortunately not everyone shares the taste of us car enthusiasts who appreciate and admire hyper aggressive functional body styling. The image that you project, driving around a literal GT race car in the streets is not the kind of image the majority of people who buy exotic sports cars want (I'm betting).


they should've just gave us the V10 variant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpMAfsSk7jM

multicartual
12-19-2014, 01:07 PM
V10 + 6 speed = win

Timpo
12-19-2014, 05:13 PM
V10 + 6 speed = win

There's almost absolutely no demand for stick shift Lamborghini or Ferrari. None.

Their customers are successful business man or celebrities who want to look pretty and show off.

Lamborghini's main customers aren't people who want to take it out to the track or twisty road on the weekend and rip it around with manual gear box.

According to Maurizio Reggiani(Director of Lamborghini), they could only sell 1% to 2% of Murcielago and Gallardo in stick shift.
Everybody else wanted paddle shift. Easier to drive, faster, better on gas, etc.
It would be a pretty dumb move for any exotic car manufacture to come up with manual gear box, especially when their customers are NOT asking for it.

There are some exceptions, Venom GT and Ultimate Aero customers didn't complain about manual gear box, but they have completely different customer base.
Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati, Bugatti...they're all status symbol.

multicartual
12-19-2014, 07:56 PM
Lol this made me LOL fucking hard. Now this is where your writing background just fucking shines.


Sweet, check out some of my YouTube comments, I've been practicing:

https://plus.google.com/109248947082688473913/posts

multicartual
12-19-2014, 08:15 PM
I've always, always wanted an NSX:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/spartan23/c8768e64.jpg

1991 Acura NSX (http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/cto/4809368838.html)

Stock they are just so oddly pleasing in a geometric sort of way

http://images.craigslist.org/00m0m_cti61l9uBij_600x450.jpg

You can see so many rectangles, curved blade-like shapes, squares, feminine curves with those big door-vents, the hidden handles, there is so much going on yet it all fits together to make such a legendary car. I think the NSX, especially 1st gen, is going to seriously hold its value and I would love to buy one after my next business venture pays off!

Most 1st gens I have seen for sale have been absolutely rat-bagged.

Ludepower
12-20-2014, 08:40 AM
every asian boys wet dream car.

I just dunno how they can out do every car like the original NSX did.

multicartual
12-22-2014, 10:28 AM
But just blatantly rehashing its design is not the answer for a modern successor. If they did this (http://forum.mazda6club.com/attachments/other-cars/43347d1129962957-nsx-r-hsc.jpg), it would just be lazy, riding on the original's coattails, pandering, and completely without its own character or identity. Like a cover band or something. You can't just keep carting out the same lines that were probably penciled in 1988 or something, doing that, you completely fall behind the curve.


I will respectfully disagree. The tuxedo is an old design but it is what we call timeless. It will always look good. Porsche has not changed their overall theme of their cars because the lines work. I love the concept you posted, it does not need to be ultra-modern to be stylish.


Trouble is, everyone these days pushes to become the most stylish rather than the most timeless. This is why we have the Miley Cyruses and Justin Biebers of the world who will be forgotten in 20 years while people and culture still recognize the Marilyn Monroes and Fred Astaires.

It is like the dark times of the automotive world, from 1974-1986 when the west fell out of love with cars. Now we love them too much and expect cars to have computers, GPS, blue tooth, yaw control, backup cameras, heated seats, 200 page operating manuals with 50 pages alone on the pop up screen and every function. 600+ hp yet speed limits have not changed, it is like passion for cars is buried under the demand for gimmicks.

Last time I went looking at cars, everything in the interior looked too nice to touch.

GotRice?
12-22-2014, 08:26 PM
they should've just gave us the V10 variant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpMAfsSk7jM

that V-10 sounds weak compared to the LFA...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAvXKXn1nSU

68style
12-22-2014, 09:08 PM
It is like the dark times of the automotive world, from 1974-1986 when the west fell out of love with cars. Now we love them too much and expect cars to have computers, GPS, blue tooth, yaw control, backup cameras, heated seats, 200 page operating manuals with 50 pages alone on the pop up screen and every function. 600+ hp yet speed limits have not changed, it is like passion for cars is buried under the demand for gimmicks.

Last time I went looking at cars, everything in the interior looked too nice to touch.

THIS. Holy fuck driving new cars makes me want to blow my brains out from boredom. Yah they are nice and quiet and smooth but they're just as disconnected (from an emotional perspective) as a 1980's American sedan was from the roads they purportedly drove (floated?) down -- new cars put you to sleep and should come with bibs to wipe drool up with.

I know some people that write car reviews and all they go on about is fucking gadgets. You know how many retards I see every day in Richmond backing up staring at their dash now while unbeknownst to them a car is coming from the side they can't see? Yah sure it says to make sure to look around but do any of these tools ever do that? Nope! Thank goodness though for all the Darwin Award children that aren't getting rolled on anymore though!

We just got a new Honda Accord at work and I went to change lanes in it the other day and it's got a bloody camera to show you your blindspot... Cuz you know... It's way too fuckin hard to turn your head? Seriously when did we become a society so full of jerkoff pussies that can't do anything for ourselves? The Orcs were right, the age of men is dead. It won't be much longer until dudes are using apps to have someone come fuck their women for them because its too messy and sweaty to do it themselves. Progress my ass.

(Jason if you make that app and get rich I want 50% hahaha)

Akinari
12-22-2014, 09:50 PM
We just got a new Honda Accord at work and I went to change lanes in it the other day and it's got a bloody camera to show you your blindspot... Cuz you know... It's way too fuckin hard to turn your head? Seriously when did we become a society so full of jerkoff pussies that can't do anything for ourselves? The Orcs were right, the age of men is dead. It won't be much longer until dudes are using apps to have someone come fuck their women for them because its too messy and sweaty to do it themselves. Progress my ass.

(Jason if you make that app and get rich I want 50% hahaha)
Funny that you criticize Honda's new "blind-spot monitoring" system because that's the same system that's been criticized for being more of a distraction, with the same impression shared by myself when I drove a 2015 Civic with the same system.

Why the hell would I want to look at the centre stack when I'm changing lanes to see what's beside me? :fulloffuck:

68style
12-22-2014, 10:23 PM
Funny that you criticize Honda's new "blind-spot monitoring" system because that's the same system that's been criticized for being more of a distraction, with the same impression shared by myself when I drove a 2015 Civic with the same system.

Why the hell would I want to look at the centre stack when I'm changing lanes to see what's beside me? :fulloffuck:

Yah, I didn't spend long enough driving the car around, but my first thoughts that were it caught my eyes all the time and made me hesitate and look there for a split second which translates into hesitation changing lanes with things moving around you which translates into extremely irritated drivers around you... I would think after awhile you can break that, but why have to do it in the first place? It's really quite silly.

LP700-4
12-22-2014, 10:39 PM
Its meant so you can minimize the time you take your eyes off the road in front of you. Usually you would mirror, signal, shoulder check. With the system you can just mirror signal then look at the screen which you can revert to looking forward again in a shorter time.

I can see the hesitation when you first drive the car but once you get a feel for it and trust the system it can help as sometimes things change in front of you the split second that you take to shoulder check. Its almost like the blind spot monitoring systems some cars have now, its a silly thing to some but its technological advancement that can ultimately make roads safer.

68style
12-22-2014, 10:47 PM
I guess I don't agree that it makes the roads safer... it takes thinking and foresight out of the driver and allows people to get lazy. Maybe you are a capable thinker and understand how the process is shortened, but I guarantee you that you're in a very small minority. I noticed with the Accord that I lowered my eyes off the road down toward the centre console, whereas with looking my eyes stay level out the windshield and I just dart my head over quickly to scan... so I felt way less safe looking downward and re-focusing onto an LCD screen in the dash to see what was there. Nevermind the fact it only works for right lane changes (obviously), you still gotta look for left changes so now you have a 2 tier system in the car... not that anyone in Vancouver EVER drives anywhere but the fast lane anyway.

Even the lane change warning indicators are retarded, I drove an S-Class for a few days with that on it and just regular traffic driving where I was NOT cutting people off that thing was squawking at me constantly telling me it wasn't safe to change lanes... ain't nobody got time to wait for their car to tell them it's safe enough to do whatever they got to do in Vancouver... Just turn your fool head and look for yourself!

The only thing that makes roads safer is proper driver training... which we have NEVER had in North America.

Timpo
12-23-2014, 12:15 AM
I know certain car enthusiasts might complain about gadgets but car manufactures are not stupid, they're just building according to customer demand.

those gadgets aren't cheap, but car manufactures are still willing to put it in.
if you build cars like KTM X-Bow, Campagna T-Rex or Polaris Slingshot, they won't attract majority of people.

Akinari
12-23-2014, 02:03 AM
Even the lane change warning indicators are retarded, I drove an S-Class for a few days with that on it and just regular traffic driving where I was NOT cutting people off that thing was squawking at me constantly telling me it wasn't safe to change lanes... ain't nobody got time to wait for their car to tell them it's safe enough to do whatever they got to do in Vancouver... Just turn your fool head and look for yourself!
The number of times I've been cut off by cars with their side mirror blind spot indicators lit up RED is laughable. Seriously, I know more people than I'd like to admit who actually have not a single clue what the majority of the gadgets in their MBs Audis or BMWs do.

I'm the small minority of those who would be happily content with a tech-free car (aside from Bluetooth phone and audio capabilities). I'm even hesitant to switch to a double DIN deck with a screen, preferring a standard single DIN because I know it will just become one more thing to look at and just another distraction. All these digital dashes, touchscreen this and that, blind spot monitor this and that.

Drivers will eventually become completely retarded and dependant on these things if this continues.

I can fully understand and appreciate technological advancements, which I'm sure this new NSX is filled to the brim with, but at a certain point in time someone has to step in and create something holistic and back-to-the-roots, (FRS/86/BRZ though that sort of came and went with a big meh).

meme405
12-23-2014, 07:45 AM
You get used to the BSM. I thought it was stupid at first as well, but now I'm totally used to checking it, similar to my backup camera, once you grow accustomed to it, it just becomes another tool.

My method of changing lanes, is now to check my mirror, flip on my signal, shoulder check, and while im turning back to face front I quickly verify the BSM in the mirror, then I make my lane change.

My only concern with systems like this, is people who learn on vehicles with this crap, then when they hop in a car without it they can't drive for shit.

I learned how to drive on a manual transmission car that didn't even have cruise control, I think thats how everyone needs to learn how to drive.

Timpo
12-23-2014, 04:10 PM
The number of times I've been cut off by cars with their side mirror blind spot indicators lit up RED is laughable. Seriously, I know more people than I'd like to admit who actually have not a single clue what the majority of the gadgets in their MBs Audis or BMWs do.

I'm the small minority of those who would be happily content with a tech-free car (aside from Bluetooth phone and audio capabilities). I'm even hesitant to switch to a double DIN deck with a screen, preferring a standard single DIN because I know it will just become one more thing to look at and just another distraction. All these digital dashes, touchscreen this and that, blind spot monitor this and that.

Drivers will eventually become completely retarded and dependant on these things if this continues.

I can fully understand and appreciate technological advancements, which I'm sure this new NSX is filled to the brim with, but at a certain point in time someone has to step in and create something holistic and back-to-the-roots, (FRS/86/BRZ though that sort of came and went with a big meh).

this happens in aviation to an extent

RRxtar
12-23-2014, 05:08 PM
Its funny all these new gadgets in cars and as far as I can tell they don't come with signal lights anymore

68style
12-24-2014, 09:16 AM
Or anything that tells you that you're driving everywhere with your damn highbeams on. That always gets me full rage mode.

Timpo
12-24-2014, 09:46 AM
Or anything that tells you that you're driving everywhere with your damn highbeams on. That always gets me full rage mode.
I see people without light on during night too.

multicartual
12-24-2014, 12:27 PM
Last time I saw someone crash into the railing in Gastown and nearly take out a bunch of people it was some young guy trying to program his GPS while driving...

Ulic Qel-Droma
12-24-2014, 12:36 PM
Drivers will eventually become completely retarded and dependent on these things if this continues.

yes and eventually human drivers will not exist.

just like you're completely dependent on much of the technological advances that didn't exist 2000 years ago.

you don't know how to hunt, skin, and preserve and animal for feeding. cuz you don't need to. something else does it for u.

dependence isn't bad. it just means something is advanced enough that we don't need to waste any effort or time doing it anymore.

don't view automation as some separate entity... view it as hyper evolution of the human race. The automation IS you.

I for one, cannot wait for the day where human drivers are banned. All cars should be automated.

the only place humans should be allowed to drive are on the track, for fun.

Your want/need to be independent of technology, does not exceed the probability of risk due to human error over the long run.

jaemc
01-12-2015, 08:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dup2vCGey4

TOS'd
01-12-2015, 08:59 AM
Starting mid $150k est.

Tegra_Devil
01-12-2015, 09:16 AM
ill just wait to win the lottery once they offer an R model ;)

sdubfid
01-12-2015, 09:16 AM
that video was painful blah blah blah "the engine responds to drivers inputs" blah blah blah

a transit bus responds to drivers input too, why not show us some engine cutaways or something useful

Cillu
01-12-2015, 09:24 AM
I'm really not feeling that front grille...

Nabatron
01-12-2015, 09:38 AM
the car that no average joe will attain!

Akinari
01-12-2015, 09:53 AM
Need to see how this thing drives, or more importantly, feels. Doesn't matter how fast it is, as long as it's amazing to drive unlike the GTR, it should live up to the old one in spirit at least.

meme405
01-12-2015, 10:06 AM
That pricing is a little worrisome.

The NSX even in 2005, was less than $90K. Which adjusted for today's value puts it at the $105k.

I get they are going for an even higher end market, but the original NSX was already criticized for it's price, I think this one will be as well.

The other part that worries me is that they are "estimating" it at 150k. What happens if by the time they announce pricing its actually nearer to 200K?

Before 2010 this car might have brought something to the table, but today, I just don't see this thing changing the game much.

123654123
01-12-2015, 10:20 AM
car is no longer jdm :(

thumper
01-12-2015, 11:02 AM
standalone of the promo that was in the video above...

http://youtu.be/akWj5AxpQYo

LP700-4
01-12-2015, 11:45 AM
God damn that car is beautiful. Seeing that part of the video where they show the legend, integra gsr, nsx, and tl type s gives me hope that they know what we want.

NSX wont be in my budget for a while unfortunately, but a TLX Type-S or something man acura make it happen!

Also wheels look like the ever so popular in vancouver PUR wheels lol

nsx042003
01-12-2015, 01:24 PM
mid 150k....and that's US pricing. When it comes to canada. i can see 200k+

great that they stuck with midship, but disappointed that it has no 6 speed option.

can't wait to see nissan and toyota's respond! Exciting times again from the japanese

Nabatron
01-12-2015, 02:34 PM
its only exciting if those companies come out with affordable cars that normal people can buy....who in their right mind can afford a car 150-200k? I'm hoping companies like mazda, nissan, toyota come out with cars that are sporty and affordable. Not holding my breath on toyota since there supra or whatever concept they have will probably be an insane amount as well...

multicartual
01-12-2015, 02:41 PM
who in their right mind can afford a car 150-200k?


Same people who own property in Vancouver

Nabatron
01-12-2015, 03:06 PM
fuck them haha

thumper
01-12-2015, 04:01 PM
can't go one block in richmond or downtown vancouver without running into something worth 6-digits wrapped in some sort of hideous vinyl, or drive down the highway here without being overrun by a supercar finding it's way into the ditch... i'm sure they will find buyers in this price range.

Bender Unit
01-12-2015, 08:16 PM
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StylinRed
01-12-2015, 08:41 PM
car is no longer jdm :(

Have to say I'm disappointed about that too... probably shouldn't be but I am :/

I wonder if Hondas F1 development had any influences on this or vice versa

AudiFreak
01-12-2015, 08:42 PM
Wish there was 6MT.

RickyTan3
01-12-2015, 08:46 PM
its only exciting if those companies come out with affordable cars that normal people can buy....who in their right mind can afford a car 150-200k? I'm hoping companies like mazda, nissan, toyota come out with cars that are sporty and affordable. Not holding my breath on toyota since there supra or whatever concept they have will probably be an insane amount as well...

Old NSX used to be about 60-80k USD inflation rate that would be about 115 000 USD today

LP700-4
01-12-2015, 09:05 PM
IMO price is pretty spot on. R8 V10 Plus at 550hp and similar specs starts at 190k. Have to remember this thing is supposed to benchmark a 458. Other tech like the full electric mode and new 9spd dct make this a bargain for a supercar.

Marshall Placid
01-12-2015, 09:20 PM
I think a lot has to ride on the performance of the car.

The 1 gas and specifically the 3 electric motors will definitely give the car impressive 0-60 numbers and ultra-low end torque.

Info here:
Forbes Life (http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewdepaula/2015/01/12/2015-detroit-auto-show-get-a-look-at-the-2016-acura-nsx/?utm_campaign=forbeslifefbsf&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social)

If it drives similar to the old NSX, the new NSX should be a winner.

westopher
01-12-2015, 10:05 PM
Its beautiful, but is it truly exciting enough to command that kind of money? To us, its amazing, but to people with money? Hard to say. I know its cliche to say, and its not necessarily my sentiment, but its a 200k honda.....

multicartual
01-12-2015, 10:42 PM
Its beautiful, but is it truly exciting enough to command that kind of money? To us, its amazing, but to people with money? Hard to say. I know its cliche to say, and its not necessarily my sentiment, but its a 200k honda.....


True car enthusiasts can look beyond a brand for something truly magical, will the NSX live up to the hype?

westopher
01-12-2015, 11:00 PM
The average 200k car buyer is looking for a lot more than how the car drives though. You know as well as I do, most rich people, first and foremost, care about looking, well, rich. Thats why you have people who buy ferrari californias.

StylinRed
01-13-2015, 03:09 AM
^^^ the LFA is a 400k Toyota

heleu
01-13-2015, 07:13 AM
I like it. Then again, I've liked all of the other NSX concepts that have been coming out since 2008.

Please, please Honda, just build it. They really need to make up their mind.

shiesty
01-13-2015, 07:15 AM
They are building it

thumper
01-13-2015, 07:17 AM
I like it. Then again, I've liked all of the other NSX concepts that have been coming out since 2008.

Please, please Honda, just build it. They really need to make up their mind.

Acura NSX (2015) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acura_NSX_%282015%29#Manufacture)

EndLeSS8
01-13-2015, 08:54 AM
I like it, but it wasn't a "love at first sight" style that I had when I first saw the 1st gen NSX in 1990

The technology is great though, and price is fair for what you get. I see some homages to the old NSX in the interior.

RRxtar
01-13-2015, 11:04 AM
I think they did a terrific job with it, and I think waiting until 2015 will pay off in the long run. If they went ahead with the concept back in 2010, I think it would already be an outdated car. By waiting until now, they are using some very modern and future tech, that is also already proving itself in supercars like the 918 and P1 but at a fraction of the cost.

It is definitely in a tough segment at $150-$200k with the 911TT, R8 V10, Aston Martin.
But it will come in well below a 458, huracan, 650s, so it wont have to compete with the exotic sports cars. I think it will sell not too bad based on it still having some NSX nostalgia, as well as carrying the Acura quality, and serviceability. It wont be the best car in its class, but there is a reason we don't all use the same cellphone either.

meme405
01-13-2015, 11:23 AM
^^^ the LFA is a 400k Toyota

Yeah it is, and they lost money on every single one they built, and only made 500 of them.

If honda is into doing the same thing with the NSX then that's fine, release it as a flagship limited run vehicle, and it will make a lot of rich enthusiasts dreams come true.

But if they are going to try and cheap the thing out and build something for less than 150k so that they make money on this project, I can see the entire thing failing horrifically.

westopher
01-13-2015, 11:31 AM
Yes this isn't in the same realm as the type of car the LFA was. Lexus built it because they had something to prove, not to be a successful car. I'm not sure of Honda/acuras motive for this, but it doesn't sound the same. Keep in mind, what made the original NSX so amazing was the driving dynamics. Once the GTR came out, driving dynamics in supercars became a distant thought behind nurburgring lap times and shifting speed.
Is the NSX going to be impressive enough numbers wise to negate the desire for the original NSX? If anything I think all its going to do is make the original skyrocket like the new 911 turbos did for the 993,964 and 930. If you want to buy an old one, buy it now, because I'm willing to bet its going to be the next 993 turbo

meme405
01-13-2015, 12:22 PM
Yes this isn't in the same realm as the type of car the LFA was. Lexus built it because they had something to prove, not to be a successful car. I'm not sure of Honda/acuras motive for this, but it doesn't sound the same. Keep in mind, what made the original NSX so amazing was the driving dynamics. Once the GTR came out, driving dynamics in supercars became a distant thought behind nurburgring lap times and shifting speed.
Is the NSX going to be impressive enough numbers wise to negate the desire for the original NSX? If anything I think all its going to do is make the original skyrocket like the new 911 turbos did for the 993,964 and 930. If you want to buy an old one, buy it now, because I'm willing to bet its going to be the next 993 turbo

Its funny because looking back previous GTR's before the R35 had the exact same goal as the current gen. The GTR was always about seeing how far the boundaries of speed and technology could be pushed.

The NSX, supra, RX8, etc. never had that as their goal. As much fun as it would be to see the Honda build an NSX which is going to try and reign in the GTR it could be a very dangerous game for them to start to play.

I mean Westopher is bang on, even at 200k I don't know how many people with that kind of money would say no to a 911, R8, or some of the various other options and say they want a glorified honda. (save me the lesson about how the 911 is just a beetle).

Is there the possibility that honda pulls something incredible off here, yes. Just saying that right now i'm not seeing it.

white rocket
01-13-2015, 02:06 PM
It may become a classic case of the people that want it can't afford it and those who can will buy a status symbol. It's a shame but that's the world we're living in. Is the new NSX an underdog? I'd say yes but it's hard to label it since it hasn't had a real customer feedback yet and testing has been minimal at best.

As a Honda guy would I buy it? Fucking rights I would. Pretty much sight unseen if I had the cheddar. I'm a brand loyal guy and will stick with a company even through tough times. But that's just me.

bcuzracecarz
01-13-2015, 05:01 PM
I don't think that this car won't be classified as a status symbol, people who are buying this kind of car (2 seat mid-engine supercar) are not always buying it for the badge, a lot of the time it's the look and what the car represents, just because it has an Acura/Honda logo on it doesn't mean that the WOW factor is gone. The new NSX definitely has the WOW and then some. If I saw this cruising up Robson I'd be staring and listening with my jaw on the floor and ears ringing just like anything else, and that's not just because i'm a car guy.

As for the price of $150k US, I'd say that's pretty fair considering the performance and tech they are providing. It would definitely be on my short list if I had the mula, even if it was in 458, huracan price territory

xghh
01-13-2015, 05:38 PM
http://ehealthwoman.com/apple/images/21.gifSimplify the front of the car and it'd be sooooo much nicer. Also heard that it's gonna be a gas-electric combination, gas engine powers the rear wheels and electric motors power the fronts during cornering or something. Dunno if it's true, just read somewhere.http://ehealthca.com/hu12uk1.jpg

multicartual
01-13-2015, 07:27 PM
Blah blah status symbol, fuck just hit the gym and look good then you'll feel fucking cool as fuck driving a shit box and you'll probably get laid more too


Even though I'm kind of put off by the Dark Knight joker's smile front end, I think the new NSX is going to be an amazing, maybe even game-changing car. How long before every sports car has front electric assist? My bet is pretty fucking fast

twitchyzero
01-13-2015, 07:29 PM
As a Honda guy would I buy it? Fucking rights I would. Pretty much sight unseen if I had the cheddar. I'm a brand loyal guy and will stick with a company even through tough times. But that's just me.

I'm sure all the Hondas you like were design and bult in JDM land. Honda America's track record isn't as established. Like others I'm curious if they implemented any of their upcoming F1 tech into this car.

AzNightmare
01-13-2015, 09:13 PM
Looks bulky, like a R8. Maybe too "luxurious" looking as well.

This was my favourite NSX concept.
http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/200703/2004-acura-hsc-concept-5_800x0w.jpg

Although it looks a bit dated now, but it would have been more of a true NSX successor if they built it around this styling.
But I guess it wouldn't match up with the current Acura styling.

Stevin
01-20-2015, 06:16 PM
If they're gonna go ahead and call it an NSX it should somewhat look like an NSX.

snails
01-20-2015, 06:17 PM
If they're gonna go ahead and call it an NSX it should somewhat look like an NSX.

yeah.. but car manufactures dont do that..

its very rare when they do

Stevin
01-20-2015, 06:27 PM
yeah.. but car manufactures dont do that..

its very rare when they do

I know man, one of my biggest pet peeves though.

Timpo
01-20-2015, 06:30 PM
what happen to the V10 NSX?

maybe they realized that they can't beat LFA?

http://images.thecarconnection.com/lrg/2011-honda-nsx-spy-shots-motorauthority-004_100207093_l.jpg

snails
01-20-2015, 06:31 PM
I know man, one of my biggest pet peeves though.


yeahhh. but sometimes the *new* version is soooo much better..

mk4 supra for example

but yes i agree.. the new charger shouldnt be a charger.they should have re named something like that for sure

Timpo
01-20-2015, 06:36 PM
Maybe Honda should pursue this concept too..

2001 Honda Dualnote Concept
400hp hybrid sports sedan

http://world.honda.com/Tokyo2001/auto/DUALNOTE/image/p01.jpg
http://www.honda.co.jp/factbook/motorshow/2001/auto/img/03_p01.jpg

Timpo
01-20-2015, 06:37 PM
2004 Toyota Alessandro Volta

Hybrid Sportscar :)

http://cdn-www.rsportscars.com/foto/2004paris/toyotavoltaconcept_01.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/Toyota_Alessandro_Volta.jpg

LP700-4
01-20-2015, 06:53 PM
Classic timpo. How the hell do you even know all these cars that no ones ever heard of. I wouldnt even know where to start with google :lawl:
what happen to the V10 NSX?

maybe they realized that they can't beat LFA?


NSX should be able to whoop the LFA with a couple turbos, AWD and a DCT.

Timpo
01-20-2015, 07:07 PM
Classic timpo. How the hell do you even know all these cars that no ones ever heard of. I wouldnt even know where to start with google :lawl:


NSX should be able to whoop the LFA with a couple turbos, AWD and a DCT.

I'm a car enthusiast broski :accepted:

Timpo
01-20-2015, 07:11 PM
Isuzu used to have some cool sportscars when they still participated in big car races like F1.

These are only concept though..

1989 Isuzu 4200R
4.2L V8 300hp

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/t_original/ibinckp6of1irgrm9b52.jpg
http://www.2000gt.net/Isuzu/4200R/4200r06.jpg

Timpo
01-20-2015, 07:14 PM
Isuzu Como

3.5L V12
740hp / 13,500rpm
303lb-ft / 11,000rpm

http://www.diseno-art.com/images_4/Isuzu_Como.jpg
http://www.diseno-art.com/images_4/Isuzu_Como_rear.jpg
http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/6d/7e/36cd3be187544b640395a40b5276e303.jpg
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Flh3.googleuserconten t.com%2F_Tsf-t_mqSxc%2FTWjVfeslwVI%2FAAAAAAAA2lM%2FsR2VgSF2ExM% 2Fs800%2F1992%2520Isuzu%2520Como_08.jpg
http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/minkara/photo/000/002/696/509/2696509/p2.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/Isuzu_P799WE_engine_rear.jpg

stdyfu
01-20-2015, 08:43 PM
Simplify the front of the car and it'd be sooooo much nicer. Also heard that it's gonna be a gas-electric combination, gas engine powers the rear wheels and electric motors power the fronts during cornering or something. Dunno if it's true, just read somewhere.http://financenot.com/image/images/23.gif http://financenot.com/image/images/51.gif

LeadFootLiam
01-20-2015, 08:45 PM
I don't like how its 4wd, should have been rear wheel just like the first gen. Looks dope though.

Stealthy
10-26-2015, 10:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy8F1Nh83_E

Akinari
10-26-2015, 11:23 AM
Seems like yet another technological marvel executed rather brilliantly. Kudos to Honda and Acura for finally delivering the new NSX, albeit with little in relation to the original NSX aside from the fact that the new one, like the original, is a technological marvel of today as was the old one from its time?

westopher
10-26-2015, 04:35 PM
Funny, to me it seems like the perfect example of why the cost of older cars are on the rise.

Timpo
10-26-2015, 07:31 PM
Funny, to me it seems like the perfect example of why the cost of older cars are on the rise.

like what? :confused:

Do you mean like vintage rare cars? or like your average daily drivers?

westopher
10-26-2015, 07:44 PM
Are you living under a rock?
Well for one, I'm probably referring to NSXs but other cars that fall under that umbrella:
Any m3 prior to 2006
Type R
Any air-cooled 911s
Any of the 90s and previous nissan Z cars
Your precious R32/33/34 GTRs
e30s
MK1/2 golf/rabbit/GTI/jetta
CRX's in good shape
Lancia's
e28
e34
928s
944 turbos and S2s
Have you seriously not looked at the price of any driver oriented car made between 1970-1999 in the last 2 years?

Harvey Specter
10-26-2015, 08:01 PM
How much is the CDN price for the new NSX?

westopher
10-26-2015, 08:11 PM
Its running around the same as new R8 v10s, 911 turbos, so I can only assume hovering slightly above or slightly under the 200 mark depending on options as an educated guess.

Mr.Money
10-26-2015, 08:34 PM
Ferrari rear glass,Audi r8 front end,Civic taillights.....uhhh...i'll take a 90's nsx over this.

Jtseng
10-26-2015, 08:38 PM
RS group meet to book a test drive with Steve Cheung ? :troll:

http://www.acurarichmond.com/en/team/steve-cheung/

someone can film him when he gets pissed off saying we wasted his time etc :accepted:

european
10-27-2015, 01:16 PM
cool

Timpo
10-27-2015, 05:14 PM
http://img.response.jp/imgs/zoom1/965182.jpg
http://img.response.jp/imgs/zoom1/965185.jpg
http://img.response.jp/imgs/zoom1/964724.jpg
http://img.response.jp/imgs/zoom1/964725.jpg
http://img.response.jp/imgs/zoom1/964719.jpg
http://img.response.jp/imgs/zoom1/964722.jpg

Groot
10-27-2015, 05:57 PM
RS group meet to book a test drive with Steve Cheung ? :troll:

Steve Cheung | Richmond Acura (http://www.acurarichmond.com/en/team/steve-cheung/)

someone can film him when he gets pissed off saying we wasted his time etc :accepted:

off-topic but this guy is nice Stephen Leung | Richmond Acura (http://www.acurarichmond.com/en/team/stephen-leung/)

prob the only nice one there though

Timpo
10-27-2015, 09:00 PM
RS group meet to book a test drive with Steve Cheung ? :troll:

Steve Cheung | Richmond Acura (http://www.acurarichmond.com/en/team/steve-cheung/)

someone can film him when he gets pissed off saying we wasted his time etc :accepted:

http://media.mtlevolio.com/media/604RICHMONDACURA/38365-270xY/steve-cheung.jpg

do people here on RS know him well or what?

Timpo
10-27-2015, 09:02 PM
Acura NSX is supposedly a lot faster than the GT-R.

I'm wondering how NSX stuck up with P1, 918 and LaFerrari.

StylinRed
10-27-2015, 09:54 PM
is this ever getting released? feels like i've seen and heard about it for forever

shiesty
10-27-2015, 10:26 PM
Acura NSX is supposedly a lot faster than the GT-R.

I'm wondering how NSX stuck up with P1, 918 and LaFerrari.

It better be a lot faster than the gt-r, it costs twice as much!

thumper
10-27-2015, 10:30 PM
is this ever getting released? feels like i've seen and heard about it for forever

when i was at burrard acura getting my parents' mdx serviced the salesperson i asked there said they were told their allocation will start arriving in spring of 2016.

Timpo
10-28-2015, 06:06 AM
Next GT-R will be 1,250hp hybrid

Next Nissan GT-R to use Le Mans V6 engine | Top Gear (http://www.topgear.com/car-news/insider/next-nissan-gt-r-use-le-mans-v6-engine)

flagella
10-28-2015, 07:37 AM
Timpo will steer this thread to a gtr thread

jaemc
10-28-2015, 08:08 AM
Delays upon delays. Our GM is currently in Chicago fiddling around with the new NSX!

Looking forward to more pictures and updates when he returns.

BBMme
10-28-2015, 09:27 PM
What a beautiful car, now I hope they will use the concept for all their vehicles

JoshuaWong
10-28-2015, 09:52 PM
Can't believe this thing is finally a reality. The original was one of my favourite car of all time, almost got one years ago... remembered waiting for the V10 version back in 07 only to have it cancelled. All the wait and false hopes, its finally here :QQ:

Respect to Honda, especially with their recent Type R civic, and the baby NSX car in developement

white rocket
10-29-2015, 09:45 AM
It is glorious in every way. Once Lotto Max calls, I'll place my order.

amusegt1
10-29-2015, 01:27 PM
Seems like Mr.Harris is not impressed....


@harrismonkey
I drove the NSX last week. And I'm reading some of the reviews today and wondering if I drove the same car......

https://twitter.com/harrismonkey/status/658726356524605441

thumper
10-29-2015, 01:43 PM
It is glorious in every way. Once Lotto Max calls, I'll place my order.

what is it right now... $55M? if you win, give each one of us one as well pls ;)

Timpo
10-31-2015, 04:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMaTWD_rDlI

Timpo
10-31-2015, 04:49 PM
Acura NSX 2016 (http://acura.ca/nsx#NSX) it doesn't say how much $

Timpo
11-01-2015, 02:24 PM
Honda S660

Specifications
VEHICLE TYPE:
mid-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 2-passenger, 2-door roadster

BASE PRICE (JAPAN, MINUS CONSUMPTION TAX):
$15,300

ENGINE TYPE:
turbocharged and intercooled DOHC 12-valve inline-3, aluminum block and head, port fuel injection

DISPLACEMENT:
40 cu in, 658 cc
Power: 63 hp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 77 lb-ft @ 2600 rpm

TRANSMISSION:
6-speed manual, CVT

DIMENSIONS:

Wheelbase: 90.0 in
Length: 133.7 in
Width: 58.1 in Height: 46.5 in
Curb weight (C/D est): 1850 lb

PERFORMANCE (C/D EST):

Zero to 60 mph: 13.2-13.6 sec
Zero to 100 mph: N/A
Standing ¼-mile: 19.0-19.4 sec
Top speed: 87 mph

2015 Honda S660 Mid-Engine Roadster First Drive ? Review ? Car and Driver (http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2015-honda-s660-mid-engine-roadster-first-drive-review)

S660„$Honda (http://www.honda.co.jp/S660/)

http://images.thecarconnection.com/hug/honda-s660-honda-rd-center-oct-2015_100532284_h.jpg

sonick
11-01-2015, 02:34 PM
My pics of the NSX and S660 from Tokyo Motor Show:

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/1889033_10100559210450733_8546239266716341879_o.jp g

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/t31.0-8/12194686_10100559210480673_4440454862779773748_o.j pg

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/12183765_10100559210590453_7280344610051432590_o.j pg

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/12185318_10100559210655323_7563890165241657412_o.j pg

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/12065688_10100559210665303_8865535363334156832_n.j pg?oh=3906d06e602d0eb15f3ab722d72fc5b5&oe=56D1F9A4

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/l/t31.0-8/12186593_10100559219407783_5384439802801543054_o.j pg

vitaminG
11-01-2015, 02:40 PM
thats some solid ground clearance on the s660

Timpo
11-01-2015, 06:52 PM
The new NSX is an R8 but much better looking and technologically advanced.

Timpo
11-01-2015, 09:02 PM
Hmm... if you look at all the reviews on NSX, pretty much every single reviewer is saying that NSX handles like shit due to Conti tires.
I wonder why didn't Honda bother to get a high performance tire for NSX.

thumper
12-07-2015, 04:24 AM
https://youtu.be/GUDLUSqfqxg

StylinRed
12-07-2015, 05:47 AM
well i guess they just took their F1 engine and stuck it in there ;)

Tone Loc
12-07-2015, 02:18 PM
Slightly off-topic but I'm really liking the S660, would definitely consider one if they put the upcoming Civic's 1.5 liter turbo four in it as well as a removable hardtop.

Del Sol redux.....?

!e.lo_
12-07-2015, 02:33 PM
Slightly off-topic but I'm really liking the S660, would definitely consider one if they put the upcoming Civic's 1.5 liter turbo four in it as well as a removable hardtop.

Del Sol redux.....?

MODULO
http://i.imgur.com/LTaX0gm.jpg

MUGEN
http://i.imgur.com/cMbtuzG.jpg

KyleSilviaS15
12-07-2015, 09:37 PM
MODULO
http://i.imgur.com/LTaX0gm.jpg

MUGEN
http://i.imgur.com/cMbtuzG.jpg

looks like a new honda beat/mini cooper

Timpo
01-01-2016, 02:30 AM
http://www.nsxprime.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/novella-blue-pearl-1038x576.jpg

thumper
01-01-2016, 04:30 AM
$189K cdn base price... $250K loaded? :fulloffuck:

Acura NSX price announced for Canada | CTV News | Autos (http://www.ctvnews.ca/autos/acura-nsx-pricing-announced-for-canada-1.2707117)

StylinRed
01-01-2016, 05:40 AM
:lol

Mr.Money
01-01-2016, 06:37 AM
tough sell,Knowing you can purchase a ferrari with that amount..

68style
01-01-2016, 07:31 AM
Geez they blamed high pricing for killing the previous NSX (I remember seeing a 2005 in the Richmond Acura showroom with a $144,000 price tag on it back in 2006) so what are they thinking with this one?

nsx042003
01-01-2016, 09:55 AM
Geez they blamed high pricing for killing the previous NSX (I remember seeing a 2005 in the Richmond Acura showroom with a $144,000 price tag on it back in 2006) so what are they thinking with this one?

I think because this iteration has the performance to back it up whereas the previous ones lacked it in terms of acceleration.

It's sort of good in the way they priced it, makes it rare, like the original

tofu1413
01-01-2016, 10:56 AM
I think a used 458 will be a better buy.... Or even a 650S :pokerface:

jasonturbo
01-01-2016, 10:59 AM
Maybe Acura decided they actually wanted to make money on NSX's this time lol

Personally I would have a very hard time buying a new NSX over a new GT3.

Nlkko
01-01-2016, 11:57 AM
That price would makes sense if it's a one-time limited edition halo like the LFA.

Z3guy
01-01-2016, 04:57 PM
For the amount of new technology packed into the new nsx....it is good value....sure, there are more sporty cars than the nsx, but if tech is your thing, the nsx makes the gt3, 458, 650s archaic.

westopher
01-01-2016, 05:00 PM
Archaic is what people should want in a sports car.

Z3guy
01-02-2016, 10:38 AM
I agree with you 100% westopher. It does fascinate me though new car enthuiasts have different wants and needs. If I had a 458 and a 993 turbo, I would love to have a new nsx as a totally contrasting different type of performance car. You are basically getting Porsche 918 technology for $0.20 on the dollar

BoostedBB6
01-02-2016, 10:46 AM
At that price point you can bet it wont do well in sales. Still a massively impressive car and I'm glad to see Honda producing fun cars again....looking forward to driving this one.....in Forza

AzNightmare
01-02-2016, 11:29 AM
I would think people that can afford these kind of cars are buying mostly on what they want/like over crunching numbers of which car would give the optimal value per $.

And not everyone wants to buy a used car, especially when you have money to buy brand new.

GS8
01-02-2016, 11:55 AM
So it's about $80,000 US

:troll:

Curren$y
01-18-2016, 05:12 PM
Looks alright but I'd still prefer the old one.

RRxtar
01-18-2016, 06:39 PM
whats the US pricing like? you cant really judge a cars value on its CDN price.

and whoever said a 458 is a better buy than the NSX, isnt base price on a 458 like $275 or $300k?

In its price range you're looking at what, a 911 turbo or gt3, an R8, and what else? Most of the more elite sports cars are going to be closer to the $300k mark.

So if you want a Porsche, you're going to buy a 911 regardless. If you want a race car you'll buy a GT3. If you want something else????? R8 or NSX are a good comparison, and I see quite a few R8s around.

Hakkaboy
01-19-2016, 02:30 PM
US pricing starts at $156K and then goes up to $205K for a fully optioned one

Sounds like Porsche style option pricing

Harvey Specter
01-19-2016, 02:54 PM
On paper the new R8 V10 would be a good comparison against the NSX, not the new V10+ which is a monster but then again we need to wait and see how fast the NSX really is before we can make comparisons. I would also throw in the 570s in the mix.

And majority of the local R8s are V8's, not too many V10's out there, the V10+ is even more rare.

Timpo
01-19-2016, 09:02 PM
Stop complaining about $250k price tag. Is it because it's an Acura?
Lexus had no problem selling LFA at $375k and it was sold out pretty quickly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6SySdNaCys

Timpo
01-19-2016, 09:09 PM
Ferrari 488GTB

$242,737
Ferrari 488GTB Reviews - Ferrari 488GTB Price, Photos, and Specs - Car and Driver (http://www.caranddriver.com/ferrari/488gtb)

hmm maybe Acura is going head to head against the 488.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GcDyqnicq4U/hqdefault.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/yTCTrlsfRzk/hqdefault.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1pRO9fMWjc0/maxresdefault.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HdvvI3kHY58/maxresdefault.jpg

It's not the first time Acura going up against Ferrari.

http://revsinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/1992-Acura-NSX-and-Ferrari-348-tb-003.jpg
https://revsinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/1992-Acura-NSX-and-Ferrari-348-tb-001.jpg
https://revsinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/1992-Acura-NSX-and-Ferrari-348-tb-002.jpg

NKC ONE
01-19-2016, 09:11 PM
Going right up against the 570S and the LP580.

Hard choice between the 3.

RRxtar
01-19-2016, 11:04 PM
Canadian pesos for base models

R8 v10. $171
Nsx $189
911 gt3 $201
911 turbo s. $215
Lp580 $220
Vantage v12 $245
Lp610 $265
650s $287
458/488 well over $300

Timpo
01-19-2016, 11:15 PM
Canadian pesos for base models

R8 v10. $171
Nsx $189
911 gt3 $201
911 turbo s. $215
Lp580 $220
Vantage v12 $245
Lp610 $265
650s $287
458/488 well over $300

GT-R Nismo: $149k
2016 Nissan GT-R NISMO | Nissan USA (http://www.nissanusa.com/sportscars/gt-r/nismo)

The GT-R Nismo will smoke pretty much all the cars listed above.

http://gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/2014-Nissan-GT-R-Nismo-1.jpg

And Ford GT, $400k US. I bet they won't have hard time selling it though.
Ford GT Supercar | Ford Sportscars | Ford.com/fordgt (http://www.ford.com/performance/gt/)

http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Ford-GT-Motion-101-876x535.jpg

68style
01-19-2016, 11:29 PM
I'm a huge NSX fanboy and I'm just not excited in any way whatsoever by this car. too much technology is a bad thing sometimes... It's more computer than car. I feel no passion looking at it and every review I read/watch the people driving it are struggling to find "something" about it.

It reminds me of new Transformers vs the originals. The kids will love it but all of us who saw the original think it's overstyled overhyped shit.

Timpo
01-21-2016, 11:58 PM
I'm a huge NSX fanboy and I'm just not excited in any way whatsoever by this car. too much technology is a bad thing sometimes... It's more computer than car. I feel no passion looking at it and every review I read/watch the people driving it are struggling to find "something" about it.

It reminds me of new Transformers vs the originals. The kids will love it but all of us who saw the original think it's overstyled overhyped shit.

Do you watch Jay Leno's Garage on Youtube? If you don't, I think you should.

I can't remember what episode out of my head, but what makes Jay Leno different from your typical car journalists and Auto TV show is that, Jay looks at Japanese cars quite differently.

Jay's quote was something like this:
"You know how people, including that British Automotive Show(referring to Top Gear) say how Japanese car manufactures and their cars have no soul or passion? That is just not true. I know many Japanese engineers and executives from Japanese car manufactures.. and they are extremely passionate about cars. They talk about cars on and on and on...."
Jay also visits Japan every once in a while, and he was explaining how Japanese people are extremely passionate about cars.

Mizuno-san for example, is known for his stubborn personality because he wanted to build the GT-R utterly without compromise. He wanted to make a supercar that can kill Ferrari and Lambo, but still be a grocery getter and driving in the snow. He called it "Multi-Performance Supercar"
Mr. Soichiro Honda, he was obsessed with killing Ferrari at F1 racing. Also his passion for motorcycle and aviation was huge.
Those were just small examples, but Japanese do have their own heritage, soul and passion. It's just that many people do not see it.

68style
01-22-2016, 08:01 AM
^
What's your point?

I said the original NSX is my favourite car, it has tonnes of soul and passion... this car does not emote anything and has absolutely nothing in common with the original NSX besides the name, so there's no sense of heritage from it. It's not like the mastery of technique is lost on me... one of my favourite videos I ever watched on YouTube is how Lexus crafts the wooden steering wheel for their LS sedan.

Nevermind the fact this car was styled by an American white woman, not a Japanese person... which pretty much invalidates everything you just said.

pastarocket
01-22-2016, 08:27 AM
The problem with the NSX is that it doesn't have a soul because so much technology is crammed in the car.

The exhaust note is weaksauce.
Where is the thrill and excitement from the performance and handling of this car?

NSX. The S stand for soulless. :troll:

That being said, I still think we'll see this car in Ricemond. :troll:

Timpo
01-22-2016, 08:28 AM
^
What's your point?

I said the original NSX is my favourite car, it has tonnes of soul and passion... this car does not emote anything and has absolutely nothing in common with the original NSX besides the name, so there's no sense of heritage from it. It's not like the mastery of technique is lost on me... one of my favourite videos I ever watched on YouTube is how Lexus crafts the wooden steering wheel for their LS sedan.

Nevermind the fact this car was styled by an American white woman, not a Japanese person... which pretty much invalidates everything you just said.
So in your definition, cars like Ferrari Enzo, Dodge Viper, etc. do not have soul because they were designed by Japanese people.

Just because the car has same name and different look, doesn't mean they don't have soul.

Mustang and Camaro from 60s and 90s are completely different. Same as Corvette.

Timpo
01-22-2016, 08:30 AM
The problem with the NSX is that it doesn't have a soul because so much technology is crammed in the car.

The exhaust note is weaksauce.
Where is the thrill and excitement from the performance and handling of this car?

NSX. The S stand for soulless. :troll:

That being said, I still think we'll see this car in Ricemond. :troll:

Supercars nowadays are more about technological showcase. Whether you like it or not.
McLaren P1, LaFerrari, Porshce 918, Acura NSX, they're all hybrids with loads of technology. Sure, people can say they don't have soul but I can guarantee you that those cars were built by very passionate people.

68style
01-22-2016, 11:53 AM
Timpo, your reading comprehension skills need work. Show me anywhere in any post I've made that negates a car from having a soul because it was designed by Japanese people?

I don't know why you keep reading things that I didn't write, you're a weird dude. I would also argue that you're wrong, the Mustang / Camaro / Corvette today are easily related to the original. Maybe the Corvette is less so, but the Mustang 100% has dozens of design cues on it from the 1964.5 model -- nevermind that the basic premise has never changed, being a RWD V8 car. The goal has never changed for the car -- provide muscle car power in a package that's affordable and can still be daily driven. The new NSX has none of the same goals the original NSX did (unless giving Acura a halo car is a goal), it's heavy (!!!! complete opposite), complicated (!!), it's automatic (!), it's AWD to a certain extent, it relies on turbo power which is delivered in a non-linear nature and, as such, compromises the handling experience, and can change its demeanour entirely by a control knob. That's not interesting to a car enthusiast... it's exciting to play with from a technology perspective, but it eliminates your chances of creating an emotional connection with the car.

Just because you have passion for your work, doesn't mean you know how to create art. My dad is an electrical engineer and he got into crochet years ago when he had heart problems, his crochets were PERFECT, every single stitch and loop was exactly to the instructions... but were they beautiful? Arguable.

I would say people who work at Pagani and Porsche are equally as passionate about their work... but the Zonda/Huayra are works of art as much as they are super cars... the 918 not so much. It feels cold, like a device designed to perform functions.

The problem with creating art is that you can't set out to create it. It just happens as part of the process... engineering minded people get confused by this, they don't understand things that aren't an equation or a goal to be achieved.

RRxtar
01-22-2016, 01:07 PM
I can never tell if hes trolling, pretending to be stupid, actually is stupid, or is a mod's second account used to stir up conversation.

What he is tho, is a great way to kill threads with redundant uselessness. Who wants to have a discussion when the replies are constantly irrelevant or unrelated.


A: The new nsx doesnt connect the driver to the car the way the old one did. It doesn't make you feel like its an extension of your body, it feels more like you're driving a really efficient microwave oven.
Timpo: Yes it does, it has bluetooth conectivity, the old one only had a tape deck.
A: no thats not what i ment, you missunderstood me
Timpo: yes I did, the GTR is much faster
:facepalm:

tofu1413
01-22-2016, 01:28 PM
^
What's your point?

I said the original NSX is my favourite car, it has tonnes of soul and passion... this car does not emote anything and has absolutely nothing in common with the original NSX besides the name, so there's no sense of heritage from it. It's not like the mastery of technique is lost on me... one of my favourite videos I ever watched on YouTube is how Lexus crafts the wooden steering wheel for their LS sedan.

Nevermind the fact this car was styled by an American white woman, not a Japanese person... which pretty much invalidates everything you just said.



Yep. agreed.

only thing the new NSX and the old one shares is the name.

not even the spirit of the original is carried over. :okay:

jackp0t
01-22-2016, 02:52 PM
Frosty NSX
BAqR4tgzb_G

Seeing it in that state car looks pretty incredible

twitchyzero
01-22-2016, 03:14 PM
even if it's nothing close to the NA1/NA2 i'm just happy Acura/Honda is making a sports car again

it's come a long way too.

Acura Advanced Concept 2007 (V10 2010 target)
http://images.car.bauercdn.com/upload/4668/images/560x315/acuraascconcept_2_560px.jpg?mode=pad

Long wheelbase S2000 test mule 2008
http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire3/09012008/3/a/a/8/3aa855f37a5e10_full.jpg

real test mule 2008 (later became the HSV)
https://autoworld.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/honda-nsx-prototype-spy-img_2.jpg

Avengers roadster concept 2011
http://www.totalmarketexposure.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/New-Acura-NSX-The-Avengers-Tony-Stark-Robert-Downey-Jr..jpg

Concept 2012
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/01/01-acura-nsx-concept-detroit.jpg

Mid-Ohio Prototype 2013
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2013/08/acura-nsx-prototype-mid-ohio-6-1375706280.jpg

Prototype 2014
http://pictures.dealer.com/d/davemungenaststlouisacuraadw/0863/61ef61c0f6ff7de338879dc818632539x.jpg

Production 2015
http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/346/files/2015/08/2015.8.14-NSX-4.jpg

Timpo
01-23-2016, 10:21 AM
Timpo, your reading comprehension skills need work. Show me anywhere in any post I've made that negates a car from having a soul because it was designed by Japanese people?

I don't know why you keep reading things that I didn't write, you're a weird dude. I would also argue that you're wrong, the Mustang / Camaro / Corvette today are easily related to the original. Maybe the Corvette is less so, but the Mustang 100% has dozens of design cues on it from the 1964.5 model -- nevermind that the basic premise has never changed, being a RWD V8 car. The goal has never changed for the car -- provide muscle car power in a package that's affordable and can still be daily driven. The new NSX has none of the same goals the original NSX did (unless giving Acura a halo car is a goal), it's heavy (!!!! complete opposite), complicated (!!), it's automatic (!), it's AWD to a certain extent, it relies on turbo power which is delivered in a non-linear nature and, as such, compromises the handling experience, and can change its demeanour entirely by a control knob. That's not interesting to a car enthusiast... it's exciting to play with from a technology perspective, but it eliminates your chances of creating an emotional connection with the car.

Just because you have passion for your work, doesn't mean you know how to create art. My dad is an electrical engineer and he got into crochet years ago when he had heart problems, his crochets were PERFECT, every single stitch and loop was exactly to the instructions... but were they beautiful? Arguable.

I would say people who work at Pagani and Porsche are equally as passionate about their work... but the Zonda/Huayra are works of art as much as they are super cars... the 918 not so much. It feels cold, like a device designed to perform functions.

The problem with creating art is that you can't set out to create it. It just happens as part of the process... engineering minded people get confused by this, they don't understand things that aren't an equation or a goal to be achieved.
That was just an example. You seem to think NSX does not have a soul because it was designed by American white woman.
So what if new NSX was designed by a Japanese guy? Does that make it different?

The reason why I brought an example of Ferrari Enzo was that it's a Japanese design, not Italian. Same with Dodge Viper, it's a Japanese design, not American. Do they have less soul just because of that? They're both world's renown sportscars.

Also Mustang and Camaro, they sure did change. Just like NSX.
http://image.camaroperformers.com/f/featured-camaros/4th-gen-camaro-1993-2003/camp-0810-1999-chevy-camaro-z28/14865500/camp-0810-01-1999-chevy-camaro-z28-front-view.jpg
http://image.adam.automotive.com/f/29622202/sucp-1008-08+1969-chevy-camaro-z28+left-front-angle.jpg

Timpo
01-23-2016, 10:34 AM
I can never tell if hes trolling, pretending to be stupid, actually is stupid, or is a mod's second account used to stir up conversation.

What he is tho, is a great way to kill threads with redundant uselessness. Who wants to have a discussion when the replies are constantly irrelevant or unrelated.


A: The new nsx doesnt connect the driver to the car the way the old one did. It doesn't make you feel like its an extension of your body, it feels more like you're driving a really efficient microwave oven.
Timpo: Yes it does, it has bluetooth conectivity, the old one only had a tape deck.
A: no thats not what i ment, you missunderstood me
Timpo: yes I did, the GTR is much faster
:facepalm:
I don't know how you could know if it's like driving a microwave oven.

I am not against technology, I'm all for it.

I don't know why you guys are complaining about it doesn't feel like extension of your body. It's not like you're driving a pick up truck, minivan, Ford Crown Victoria, etc.

In my experience, almost all high end sportscars do feel like extension of your body, yes some are less or more so, but I have never experienced negative effect simply because of sophisticated technology.

I think that best driving ergonomics, handling response, braking response, sight(how big the windows are, how easy to see outside) all play role in this.

NSX, 918, P1 are all sophisticated machine, if I ever have a chance to drive one, I would expect them to drive like what it wants to do like a magic carpet.

Quite the contrary, I believe technology would actually make the car helps feel like it is part of your body.
Have you ever driven first generation Dodge Viper? If you tap on gas lightly, it will spin out of control. Yes, it is "raw" to some people and they think it's good because there's less technology, but it sure did not feel like part of my body because I had to be careful not to spin out of control.
Heavily modded Nissan Silvia, Toyota MR2, all the same thing. You need to be careful of big turbo lag, it might give you unintentional explosive power.
However computer might be able to solve this problem. Either by using better engine mapping and traction control.

If you drive MGB, Spitfitre, NA Miata, AW11 MR2, it would feel like you have to be concentrated on not going out of control because it will do something unpredictable if you're not careful. Same as hard braking, they do not have ABS and I did not find that to be pleasant.

Basically, how it fits your body(just like motorcycle) and how responsive to braking, acceleration, handling are most important part for this.

tofu1413
01-23-2016, 11:54 AM
That was just an example. You seem to think NSX does not have a soul because it was designed by American white woman.
So what if new NSX was designed by a Japanese guy? Does that make it different?

The reason why I brought an example of Ferrari Enzo was that it's a Japanese design, not Italian. Same with Dodge Viper, it's a Japanese design, not American. Do they have less soul just because of that? They're both world's renown sportscars.

Also Mustang and Camaro, they sure did change. Just like NSX.
http://image.camaroperformers.com/f/featured-camaros/4th-gen-camaro-1993-2003/camp-0810-1999-chevy-camaro-z28/14865500/camp-0810-01-1999-chevy-camaro-z28-front-view.jpg
http://image.adam.automotive.com/f/29622202/sucp-1008-08+1969-chevy-camaro-z28+left-front-angle.jpg


Its body work is designed by japanese... true. but the engineering is all italian.

same goes with viper.

Nabatron
01-23-2016, 03:00 PM
so many proto types of this car...then they finally make the production car, everyone bitches and complains its not like the old one blah blah blah...fuck 99% wont even be able to afford this car anyways lol...other then that I would never pay the amount of money for this glorified Honda...

Timpo
01-23-2016, 03:24 PM
so many proto types of this car...then they finally make the production car, everyone bitches and complains its not like the old one blah blah blah...fuck 99% wont even be able to afford this car anyways lol...other then that I would never pay the amount of money for this glorified Honda...

Stop complaining just because it's a Honda. Sure it's nice to have Ferrari or Lamborghini badge for some people, but as a car, it's not bad at all.

Here are some expensive cars from cheap brand names.

Nissan GT-R
http://openers.jp/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/969909/nissan-gtr-nismo_008.jpg

Ford GT
https://file.kbb.com/kbb/images/content/editorial/slideshow/2017-ford-gt-unveiled/ford-gt-02-600-001.jpg

Honda NSX
http://fsv-image.autoc-one.jp/images/2415546/067_o.jpg

Dodge Viper
http://www.sportscarillustrated.com/img/News_2015/H/15_0767.jpg

Nabatron
01-23-2016, 03:56 PM
timpo your just butt hurt you wont be able to afford one!

Timpo
01-23-2016, 05:13 PM
timpo your just butt hurt you wont be able to afford one!

OWNED.

iHeat
02-29-2016, 11:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8JwgDAPPqg

EndLeSS8
03-01-2016, 06:42 AM
Jay's Garage makes the new NSX seem cool and desirable

sidenote: Exterior designer lady is pretty hot IMO

Cwift
03-01-2016, 10:37 AM
Acura NSX 2017 | Acura.com (http://nsx.acura.com/)

NSX Builder!

Hehe
03-01-2016, 10:56 AM
Wait... Canadian MSRP is 189k for NSX?

That's a hot price considering it's only 142k USD... and US starts at 168k USD. Making CDN NSX the cheapest on earth.