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: If you hit someone from behind, is it always your fault?


icu222much
11-11-2012, 10:04 AM
Lets say I'm going down Granville, and someone on the left lane cuts in front of me because another car is making a left turn. I rear end him. Would that be my fault?

xilley
11-11-2012, 10:12 AM
FUCK I HATE THAT SHIT

broken_arrow
11-11-2012, 10:13 AM
Yes. :troll:







Unless you have a dash cam to provide solid evidence to the contrary...

dovo
11-11-2012, 10:13 AM
most likely yes.. must always keep safe distance. if you have witnesses that saw the idiot that cut you off... you might have a chance. ull still be at certain % at fault.
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mb_
11-11-2012, 10:18 AM
If you can find a witness saying the car cut you off or they admit it (or buy a dashcam!) then you won't be deemed at fault

icu222much
11-11-2012, 10:18 AM
What if I didn't exactly rear end him, but instead hit the rear passenger door of his car? Would this prove that he tried to cut me off?

mb_
11-11-2012, 10:19 AM
What if I didn't exactly rear end him, but instead hit the rear passenger door of his car? Would this prove that he tried to cut me off?

Not sure what ICBC would say but to me the other guy is clearly at fault

radioman
11-11-2012, 10:22 AM
Ya I would agree with MB if you hit the side of the guys car it proves he was trying to get into the lane when he obviously didn't have the time/space.

icu222much
11-11-2012, 10:22 AM
Great. Thanks for the tips guys :)

mb_
11-11-2012, 10:24 AM
If all else fails, $50 and I saw everything :troll:

SumAznGuy
11-11-2012, 10:25 AM
Broken arrow is correct. If you have video footage from a dash cam of the person cutting you off or a witness from another vehicle then ICBC could deem it the other person's fault. Or if the evidence shows you were going straight while the other person was changing lanes. Happened to me twice. First time the person pulled out from a stop sign and I hit their left corner and the second time the person changed lanes because they were behind a left turner. I was in the right most lane and damage was on the left side of my front bumper while her damage was on he the right side of the bumper.

But YMMV.

Qmx323
11-11-2012, 10:31 AM
What if I didn't exactly rear end him, but instead hit the rear passenger door of his car? Would this prove that he tried to cut me off?


sounds like he switched out while you were already beside him

so technically he sideswiped you

dangonay
11-11-2012, 10:32 AM
I posted this exact same scenario awhile ago. I was in left lane, car two in front of me turning left. Car in front of me pulls out into right lane to get around turning car. Another car in right lane hit the lady pulling out. I gave my information to the girl who hit the car pulling out and ICBC deemed it was 100% the fault of the lady pulling out. If I didn't provide information to ICBC then who knows how they would have decided.
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zx7rrrr
11-11-2012, 10:33 AM
Not if someone pushes you from behind
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FerrariEnzo
11-11-2012, 11:15 AM
If all else fails, $50 and I saw everything :troll:

i think 2 witnesses would be better :ilied:

xilley
11-11-2012, 12:04 PM
make that three, i ll be half price. ;)

Recon604
11-11-2012, 12:29 PM
Lets say I'm going down Granville, and someone on the left lane cuts in front of me because another car is making a left turn. I rear end him. Would that be my fault?

always your fault. 100% ur fault ICBC says if you are the person behind, unless you have witness then best bet is %50,50. I know from my past experience

vafanculo
11-11-2012, 12:39 PM
Just went through this myself. Was in right lane going straight. Idiot in left lane switched lanes as he didn't want to wait for a left turner. I was going 50.. I imagine he entered no more than 20km/hr.. I slam on brakes, my front left bumper hits his back right bumper.

Thought for sure 50/50. Icbc called me the other day, found the other guy at fault.

When you talk to them, draw them a diagram. Also, it sounds like he changed lanes into you. Don't say that you 'hit him from behind'. Reinforce that, trust me. Tell them he merged going too slow without shouldeer checking.

But, I think in my situation he was given fault because he CLEARLY lied to the adjustor.
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jlenko
11-11-2012, 02:06 PM
I witnessed a guy cut someone off, then purposely jam on the brakes in order to cause an accident. Of course, the accident happened... minor as it was, I still stopped and gave my name and number. ICBC did call me to confirm the story.

I imagine if I hadn't given my name and number, that the guy who caused the accident probably would have gotten away with it!

FerrariEnzo
11-11-2012, 02:44 PM
What if I didn't exactly rear end him, but instead hit the rear passenger door of his car? Would this prove that he tried to cut me off?

always your fault. 100% ur fault ICBC says if you are the person behind, unless you have witness then best bet is %50,50. I know from my past experience

you seem to not have read his entire story

SpeedStars
11-11-2012, 03:40 PM
Usually you're 100% at fault according to the Motor Vehicle Act. However, if you can prove the damage on your vehicle and the other matches the situation then you may be lucky for a 50/50. But from past experience, ICBC does jack shit and your only way out is if there's a witness, cam, or if the person admits to cutting (which they won't :troll:).
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SumAznGuy
11-11-2012, 05:39 PM
Usually you're 100% at fault according to the Motor Vehicle Act. However, if you can prove the damage on your vehicle and the other matches the situation then you may be lucky for a 50/50. But from past experience, ICBC does jack shit and your only way out is if there's a witness, cam, or if the person admits to cutting (which they won't :troll:).

That's not a fair statement. In both of my cases I was certain I was gonna get shafted by them but both times they came to conclusion the other person was 100% at fault pretty quickly based on where the damage was on my car in relations to the other car. Or maybe I was lucky both times.

chinook79
11-11-2012, 06:18 PM
I witnessed a guy cut someone off, then purposely jam on the brakes in order to cause an accident. Of course, the accident happened... minor as it was, I still stopped and gave my name and number. ICBC did call me to confirm the story.

I imagine if I hadn't given my name and number, that the guy who caused the accident probably would have gotten away with it!

happened to me too.. fucking old E. I. scum... I have fast reflex, so I was able to avoid accident but he clearly slammed on break to cause accident. I was so furious I chased him down, he started running away weaving in and out of traffic. When I finally caught him by the red light, I walked to him and he ran away running red light. That dumbfuck should never be allowed to ever drive again..

LP700-4
11-11-2012, 06:23 PM
^ Would getting the License plate and reporting to ICBC or VPD do anything? I mean its obvious hes purposely trying to get into an accident.

xilley
11-11-2012, 07:03 PM
happened to me too.. fucking old E. I. scum... I have fast reflex, so I was able to avoid accident but he clearly slammed on break to cause accident. I was so furious I chased him down, he started running away weaving in and out of traffic. When I finally caught him by the red light, I walked to him and he ran away running red light. That dumbfuck should never be allowed to ever drive again..

I ve seen dumbass c-lais that does that, not to cause an accident on purpose. but actually stop because shes spooked and frightened from the incoming cars.. :rukidding:

the typical "AHHH, *slams on brake and let the world resolve itself*"

Hondaracer
11-11-2012, 07:05 PM
i have a hard time belieiving that video footage from a dash cam of you rear ending somone that cuts into your lane would put the fault on them..

in the end, you were close enough that you could not stop

westopher
11-11-2012, 08:43 PM
What the fuck? If someone cuts into your lane with no room, resulting in you hitting them, of course they would be found at fault. My mind is going to explode trying to comprehend your logic behind that. If I'm going along and someone cuts into my lane inches from my bumper and then hits the brakes its my fault for following him too closely? I wouldn't have technically even been following them so how would i need to keep a distance?

twitchyzero
11-11-2012, 08:54 PM
i have a hard time belieiving that video footage from a dash cam of you rear ending somone that cuts into your lane would put the fault on them..

in the end, you were close enough that you could not stop

2-3 second safety distance is only cars in your lane. Otherwise it's just simply 1 meter.

You can't predict when some ass shat will sudden merge into your space going 10 kph when are you cruising down at speed limit...the worst is when they don't signal :rukidding: just have to learn to drive more defensively (ie going through a intersection with limited vision with caution...be prepared to slam your brakes in the middle lane when the outer lane has a line of cars behind a left turner

k3mps
11-12-2012, 12:28 AM
I'll share my experience.
Not exactly the same though.
I was the one that got rear ended.
During rush hour, car in the HOV lane cuts into my lane without signaling to go around the bus that was stopping. He then slammed on the brakes.
Luckily I was BARELY able to stop but I got rear ended.
Told ICBC what happened and they said if I could find the plate of the car that cut me off, they could split it 50/50 between that car and the one that hit me.

Not quite the same as what OP is asking, but if you rear end someone as a result of them getting cut off, you have the chance to split it 50/50.
The car in front would have to have remembered the plate of the car in front or have a dash cam.

dryjesus
11-12-2012, 01:52 AM
If someone on a different lane turns into your lane and you end up hitting them in the side of their car, I don't see how it could possibly be your fault. Also, if someone cuts you off hard and you rear end them, "you should've kept your distance" isn't valid because you're not required to keep a distance to cars on different lanes...

EvoFire
11-12-2012, 06:45 PM
What needs to be said has been said already, but god are there some retards who either don't read or shouldn't be giving advice.

Benz_05TSX
11-19-2012, 03:35 PM
If you HIT them, then yes, it's always your fault. However, if they back up into you, you better have a witness. Happened to me twice, won once with witnesses, and the second one is still pending.

The first guy that hit me said: your car is too low, i can't see you when I was reversing. Really?? A sedan can only be so low, while he also drove a sedan too. Stupid excuses.