[heleu]

Are Subarus the best cars money can buy? - Fortune Management (http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2012/11/19/subaru-best-cars/?iid=HP_LN)

http://fortuneaskannie.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/subaru_sales_chart.jpg?w=620&h=371

Interesting writeup by Fortune on Subaru. The answer is yes, obviously, but I'm biased.:fullofwin:

[FerrariEnzo]

I always wanted the Subaru Baja... hmm...

[snails]

^ the baja is terrible... like... useless, the bed it tiny, the interior is tiny.. the engine is tiny, its just a poor vehicle all around.

i worked at surbaru for a few years and the outback has grown on me the most.

Subaru re sale value is amazing, reliability is great IF you maintain the vehicle and most are very upgradable thanks to the aftermarket availablity for most Subaru's, and alot of models share parts amongst themselves making swaps and whatnot more simple.

on the down side tho, maintenance can be pricey ei. blow a tire and you needa buy all 4 new ones because uneven tread wear can cause pre mature differential wear, and fuel economy isnt the best in its class

[beproud]

Probably the cheapest awd car you can buy eh. Also the reliability is a plus:)
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[J-Chow]

Probably the cheapest awd car you can buy eh. Also the reliability is a plus:)
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Bingo!

It is indeed one of the most favoured cheapest AWD car, but keep in mind, AWD = more fuel = money pit.

But handling is awesome in the rain or dry. Slap on on some winter tires in the snow, and you'll be drifting like Takumi :fullofwin:

And yes, it does have the famous horizontal opposed 'boxer' engine, but one issue that always arises with the engines particular to the naturally aspirated, are leaky head gaskets. :okay:

So .... who wants to buy my car? :lol (don't worry, no leaky gaskets here ;)

[snails]

THIS IS HOW YOU SELL A SUBARU :fullofwin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2StnOBxfnw

[zx7rrrr]

I had a bugeye wrx. Good car but not practical. Not roomy and the thing was a pig on gas. Aftermarket parts are way too uber rare and overpriced
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[valent|n0]

turbo engine will have poor fuel consumption
it is basically a V6 or a V8 in 4 cylinder form :)

[T4RAWR]

I always wanted the Subaru Baja... hmm...

^ the baja is terrible... like... useless, the bed it tiny, the interior is tiny.. the engine is tiny, its just a poor vehicle all around.

i worked at surbaru for a few years and the outback has grown on me the most.

Subaru re sale value is amazing, reliability is great IF you maintain the vehicle and most are very upgradable thanks to the aftermarket availablity for most Subaru's, and alot of models share parts amongst themselves making swaps and whatnot more simple.

on the down side tho, maintenance can be pricey ei. blow a tire and you needa buy all 4 new ones because uneven tread wear can cause pre mature differential wear, and fuel economy isnt the best in its class

i dont care if you think its useless, i think its cool as fuck :fullofwin:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S75TxIe0oS8

:concentrate:

[yray]

2014 FORESTERRRRRRRRRR :fuckyea:

Subaru fills a special niche kinda like saab. Saved me once when I jumped a curb at 50km/h while drifting between 2 trees. The car just drove like nothing happened :lawl:

Dat AWD is solid, went through a foot of snow and ice with shitty all seasons :alonehappy:

[T4RAWR]

2014 FORESTERRRRRRRRRR :fuckyea:

Subaru fills a special niche kinda like saab. Saved me once when I jumped a curb at 50km/h while drifting between 2 trees. The car just drove like nothing happened :lawl:

Dat AWD is solid, went through a foot of snow and ice with shitty all seasons :alonehappy:

but you drive an x3 now :suspicious:



:troll:

[yray]

^ I'm waiting for my FOREEESSTTEERRRRR to arrive :alone:

[BEEB]

Turbo BMW with Xdrive should work as good as STi !

[snails]

Turbo BMW with Xdrive should work as good as STi !


LOL @ BMW awd system, it works on the road and that about it, Subaru's symmetrical system is a nice setup, whats the point of AWD if hp/torque isnt spread evenly

simple video showing the difference, top gear covered a BMW with Xdrive and it was much the same, uneven power distribution fails pretty bad in snow/mud situations
Subaru AWD Uphill Comparison Test - YouTube

[Matlock]

Probably the cheapest awd car you can buy eh. Also the reliability is a plus:)
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Soon to be the cheapest AWD once Suzuki North America is completely gone.

I always liked Subarus, but starting from the base model they seem to charge a lot for every little additional feature and accessory.

Always wanted to drive an STI, though.

Also, I bet my SX4 with awd lock could climb that hill in the video above. :D

[T4RAWR]

Soon to be the cheapest AWD once Suzuki North America is completely gone.

I always liked Subarus, but starting from the base model they seem to charge a lot for every little additional feature and accessory.

Always wanted to drive an STI, though.

Also, I bet my SX4 with awd lock could climb that hill in the video above. :D

I think my 4runner would have made it up that hill as well :concentrate:

[snails]

^ 4wd lock is different then awd, in that case i would really hope it does haha

[T4RAWR]

^ 4wd lock is different then awd, in that case i would really hope it does haha

this is true. i also have a rear locker to help out :fullofwin:

[T4RAWR]

LOL @ BMW awd system, it works on the road and that about it, Subaru's symmetrical system is a nice setup, whats the point of AWD if hp/torque isnt spread evenly

simple video showing the difference, top gear covered a BMW with Xdrive and it was much the same, uneven power distribution fails pretty bad in snow/mud situations
Subaru AWD Uphill Comparison Test - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_MXK2nzt2Y)

i rewatched the video and would argue that the rav4 should have made it up the hill.

unlike the other vehicles the rav4 has the ability to lock the center differential manually which should distribute the power 50-50 limiting slippage and arguably getting it up that hill.

[yray]

LOLWTF xDrive is good for road only or a few inches of snow... 40/60 distribution = disaster in mud


CVT forester is not actually 50/50 but 45/55

[T4RAWR]

LOLWTF xDrive is good for road only or a few inches of snow... 40/60 distribution = disaster in mud

speaking from experience? :troll:

[snails]

speaking from experience? :troll:

here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5UwOBKSHl-c#t=240s

[yray]

^I drift with xdrive on :troll:

[Gh0stRider]

ive been wanting a subaru :(

[snails]

ive been wanting a subaru :(

we all have
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/107/432/i_hug_that_feel.png

[TypeRNammer]

Subaru resale value :fuuuuu:

[Gh0stRider]

yes, but its next on my list and have started shopping around. maybe next year

[BEEB]

LOL @ BMW awd system, it works on the road and that about it, Subaru's symmetrical system is a nice setup, whats the point of AWD if hp/torque isnt spread evenly

simple video showing the difference, top gear covered a BMW with Xdrive and it was much the same, uneven power distribution fails pretty bad in snow/mud situations
Subaru AWD Uphill Comparison Test - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_MXK2nzt2Y)

Subaru is excellent in snow, I owned one and still love my wrx wagon. However, for the average Joe who needs a reliable car just to get him to and from work, my 335xi works equally well for me.

[HondaGuy]

Family member purchased a 2012 forester and I loved it. Awesome with their 4wd, better than my rav4 lol...way more roomier, trim level had more options from moonroof, bluetooth, sirius, fogs, and overall features. Even pricing was more reasonable.

Are their resale value not good? Curious about what typernammer wrote.
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[TypeRNammer]

Family member purchased a 2012 forester and I loved it. Awesome with their 4wd, better than my rav4 lol...way more roomier, trim level had more options from moonroof, bluetooth, sirius, fogs, and overall features. Even pricing was more reasonable.

Are their resale value not good? Curious about what typernammer wrote.
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Other way around, that's what I meant.

Subaru's hold their value so damn good.

[keifun]

I luv my Bugeye..I was so happy when I bought it almost 3 yrs ago. I'm still happy with it now.

[asr]

I love subaru
http://youtu.be/mryGnENTsoI

[bloodmack]

22b yes pls

[dee242]

mitsubishi >subaru

[jzhou]

I have a subaru and love driving it :D
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[knight604]

Evo 9 mr is my dream...

[sdubfid]

I wish they had this in north america:

•Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive
•2.0-litre turbocharged horizontally-opposed Boxer Diesel engine
•108kW power @ 3600rpm
•350Nm torque @ 1800-2400rpm
•6-speed manual transmission
•Capable of over 1,000km on a single tank

[GLOW]

Subaru resale value :fuuuuu:

i know that feel bro, i was looking for an 06/07 impreza wagon a while ago and they were quite expensive. :(

[iamed]

Family member purchased a 2012 forester and I loved it. Awesome with their 4wd, better than my rav4 lol...way more roomier, trim level had more options from moonroof, bluetooth, sirius, fogs, and overall features. Even pricing was more reasonable.

Are their resale value not good? Curious about what typernammer wrote.
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Its quite the opposite, subaru resale values are actually quite good.

[heleu]

mitsubishi >subaru

Except didn't mitsubishi kill the evolution for 2014? Or at least it's supposed to be a hybrid. :heckno:

[T4RAWR]

mitsubishi >subaru

:suspicious::concentrate::lawl:

[Gh0stRider]

Mitsubishi :fuckthatshit:
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[snails]

Mitsubishi :fuckthatshit:
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the EVO is sick... thats about it.. the rest of the lineup sucks pretty bad.:concentrate:

[OTG-ZR2]

The EVO lacks personality. I find them plain and sterile compared to a Scoobi.

[Phil@rise]

I love my 06' outback. Just wish it was manual and turbo but what guy wouldnt? As is tho its a great comfy family haul all.

[some_punk]

mitsubishi >subaru

mitsubishi has never really been reliable cars, they were used as a taxi in hong kong for a short period of time. Less than a 1 year and quickly went back to toyotas

[mercyboy]

so far subaru is the best for the reliability and best rally cars in the world.....

[mercyboy]

the best subaru period and the only one i want..subaru impreza wrx sti type r...that car is pure sexy!!!!!!

http://i45.tinypic.com/10zwdpx.jpg

[6thGear.]

Had a 2007 wrx for 4 years. Loved every minute of it and always looked forward to snow with snow tires on!

[FerrariEnzo]

even the base model of the subarus are pretty good.. lots of features.. sure its priced a bit high then "other" base models... but when add features, its about the same price plus you the AWD system..

[dee242]

i do agree mitsubishi only had the evo going for them a while back but there new line up is pretty decent especially the ralliart and as far as mitsu being taxis im ok with that lol The Evo Taxi - YouTube

[SpartanAir]

Love my Legacy Wagon. Reliable, cheap to work on, power is half decent, and my base model comes with pretty much everything you need, even a 5 speed manual.

But the one thing they didn't put on the base model FOR SOME REASON are the brakes from every other model! It has Impreza wagon brakes, with rear drums, and the SUCK. I plan on swapping them out in the spring.

[bloodmack]

The EVO lacks personality. I find them plain and sterile compared to a Scoobi.

:facepalm:

[GG]

EVO > STi any day

corners better, stiffer suspension, better brakes, faster, better boost feel

[Not really racist!]

why the hell does every thread involving subarus only or mistubishis only turn into

evo vs sti

:fulloffuck:

[TypeRNammer]

why the hell does every thread involving subarus only or mistubishis only turn into

evo vs sti

:fulloffuck:

I guess it's game on :awwyeah:

2012 Subaru WRX STI: The Best Sports Car for the Money? - Ignition Episode 17 - YouTube

[OTG-ZR2]

:facepalm:

Explain your self. Have you driven either?

[wstce92]

i do agree mitsubishi only had the evo going for them a while back but there new line up is pretty decent especially the ralliart and as far as mitsu being taxis im ok with that lol The Evo Taxi - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kDKycNbopM)

I'd buy a ralliart hatch in a heart beat if it came in stick. Looks a lot better than WRX imo.

EVO > STi any day

corners better, stiffer suspension, better brakes, faster, better boost feel

In Canada, EVO only comes in 5spd in base trim. :failed:
Everywhere else, with the 5 or 6 spd, and leather options etc coupled with the manual, I agree.

[bloodmack]

Explain your self. Have you driven either?

It has tons of personality. If it didn't it wouldn't be the STi's most well known contender.

[asr]

http://youtu.be/erKaPDP6V3g

[asr]

Subie
Subaru Impreza WRX STI snow driving onboard 1 - YouTube

evo
Mitsubishi Evo IX - snow drift - YouTube

[TOS'd]

Subaru Impreza McRae WRC 1998 - YouTube

Juha Kankkunen & Richard Burns testing Subaru Impreza WRC - with pure engine sounds - YouTube

[fuzebox]

Loved my WRX and my STI, would buy another in a heartbeat. The newer STI hatch intrigues me...

[Tegra_Devil]

just sitting and waiting for the wifes approval to scoop up an 06 or 07 SWP STi

[hi-revs]

Love my hawkeye sti!

[OTG-ZR2]

It has tons of personality. If it didn't it wouldn't be the STi's most well known contender.

:derp:

[FerrariEnzo]

Subie
Subaru Impreza WRX STI snow driving onboard 1 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/rCr9Vtsjh60)

evo
Mitsubishi Evo IX - snow drift - YouTube (http://youtu.be/SbVwmaPFPFw)

I was getting a headache watching the scooby driver swaying left-right on the straights...

[TOPEC]

just sitting and waiting for the wifes approval to scoop up an 06 or 07 SWP STi

get a 06 if u can, no reason to go for a 07 unless u really want that pearl white paint and a bit more evenly spaced gearbox, other then that, the 07 has stuff taken out here and there compared to previous years.

[124Y]

In Canada, EVO only comes in 5spd in base trim. :failed:
Everywhere else, with the 5 or 6 spd, and leather options etc coupled with the manual, I agree.

Evo Xs never came in 6 speed manual though, not just in Canada.

[see.lai]

One day I will be able to afford one of the two.. :ahwow:

[belka]

I'm selling my widebody hawkeye STi with tones of mods if anyone is interested.