[stewie]

not for me, for my gf, but...

she has a shitty roommate, hes so bad that the landlords are evicting him and he has until the end of the month to leave.

long story short, hes a slob...

he has pets that he doesnt look after, and while my gf is at work, he sits at hoome (unemployed) and lets his pets piss and shit all over the suite, which has resulted in her black leather couch being completely destroyed and having to have it thrown out.

he agreed to pay her for it, but hes got a few days left and is avoiding her at all costs claiming that hes "lost his phone and wallet"...(aka he cant pay his bills so they've probably cut his phone)

shes curious if theres anything she can do here? shes already threatened him to take him to small claims court and etc for all the other things he owes her money for and etc... but she just wants to know if theres any way she can just make him pay...by like holding something of his or just pulling the asshole card and "accidently ruin" something of his of equal value..

any one know of anything? or if its a lost cause and just stay pissed and treat him like shit till the day he leaves...which shes also scared of because the day he leaves, she'll be at work, and shes scared he'll take things of hers.

[Excelsis]

How about be treat him nicely and see how he responds

If you receive anger and turn to hate on a person you'll just make yourself mad for no reason
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[Prolowtone]

A. why was he not kicked out if unemployed for too long and always borrowing money
B. Why did he move in if he cant be trusted
C. why was he not kicked out for being a slob and ruining the house and personal possessions.

Should have been told to leave after the issues started to appear,NOT after everything has gotten to the point of being evicted. I dont believe there is any thing she can really do other then take a lose on it.. maybe someone else knows of something she can do....

Best of luck

[stewie]

How about be treat him nicely and see how he responds

If you receive anger and turn to hate on a person you'll just make yourself mad for no reason
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ps - this was a random craigslist roomate that she found

and believe me, shes tried for the past 5 months to be nice and give him the benefit of the doubt...

A. why was he not kicked out if unemployed for too long and always borrowing money
B. Why did he move in if he cant be trusted
C. why was he not kicked out for being a slob and ruining the house and personal possessions.

Should have been told to leave after the issues started to appear,NOT after everything has gotten to the point of being evicted. I dont believe there is any thing she can really do other then take a lose on it.. maybe someone else knows of something she can do....

Best of luck

he had a job for the first 2-3 weeks when he moved in

she had only met him for a screening prior to moving in, and im assuming he bullshitted his brains out

she told the landlords constantly, and even they tried to give him the benefit of the doubt...but now its come to this...

i was at her place last weekend, the landlords come in, take one smell, and look around in disgust saying the entire place smells like a fucking litter box..

shes an extremely clean person, and when she has to clean up after someone and basically be a mother to someone whos older than her...it gets annoying...and she has told him to clean up from the start, she has all the texts etc to prove it...she would text him to please clean his dishes, hed reply saying "sure ill do it after lunch", she'd come home at 9pm...now theres even more dishes...ive seen the way he acts and lives, its flat out disgusting...its not like he started to live like this all at once, when he moved in, he was clean...then i guess he lost his job...then he started to not clean, leave dirty dishes for up to 5 days on the kitchen counter...would walk around on the carpets with his shoes on leaving mud stains...now theres cat piss stains on everything, the walls, the carpets, furniture, cat are clawing the sides of the reclining chairs...

shes on the verge of having a mental breakdown and beating the shit out of him hahaha

[Prolowtone]

ps - this was a random craigslist roomate that she found

Always been iffy about that shit, and this proved my gut right....:ahwow:
I thought this was someone she knew that moved in with her

[stewie]

Always been iffy about that shit, and this proved my gut right....:ahwow:
I thought this was someone she knew that moved in with her

nope, which is why i still live at home..fuck renting, id rather save up and buy a place and let someone else live with me...let them pay my mortgage off.

but back on track lol, is there anything she can do here to get her money back?

if anyone knows, what are some of her options here?

[tiger_handheld]

might be worthwhile to take the day off and issue him small claims papers :)

[Nechako87]

might be worthwhile to take the day off and beat the shit outta him :)

fixed.

[stewie]

fixed.

i like your style lol

but hes a smalllll guy, my gf would shit stomp him hahaha..

ive told her to file a small claims suit with him...but so far shes just threatened him with saying she will do it if he doesnt pay up before he leaves...but lets get real...once he leaves she'll never see his face again...

shes thinking about just holding one of his computers hostage or something or taking his clothes (he uses the laundry closet as his personal closet for his clothes...) and not give em back till he hands over money lol

[Spoon]

Taking a guy to small claims court when he's
-unemployed
-can't pay his phone bill
-someone you met off craigslist

Sounds like a plan. :troll:

Cut your losses. WTF took her so long.

[stewie]

Taking a guy to small claims court when he's
-unemployed
-can't pay his phone bill
-someone you met off craigslist

Sounds like a plan. :troll:

Cut your losses. WTF took her so long.

Yup lol, but at least with a court order he'll be forced to get the money opposed to just dodging her every chance he gets till she gives up
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[melloman]

TBH here.. Tell her to TAKE THE DAY OFF when he moves out.

He sounds like a guy who would take abunch of her shit with him on the way out. And once he's gone your pretty much SOL if you can't contact him. (No phone or any information)

To the point where he's ruined your gf's shit, I'd say it's either small claims court or just let it be. IMO I'd be pissed off, but the hassle of court just isn't worth it to me, I'd rather burn something he loves right infront of his face. :troll:

[stewie]

TBH here.. Tell her to TAKE THE DAY OFF when he moves out.

He sounds like a guy who would take abunch of her shit with him on the way out. And once he's gone your pretty much SOL if you can't contact him. (No phone or any information)

To the point where he's ruined your gf's shit, I'd say it's either small claims court or just let it be. IMO I'd be pissed off, but the hassle of court just isn't worth it to me, I'd rather burn something he loves right infront of his face. :troll:


She's already started to have to move virtually everything she owns into her bedroom for that reason...whatever's left out are the large items, sofas, chairs, china cabinet...etc

I've told her to take the day off but she says she can't...but if anyone is free to sit there and supervise him, she'll give you all the beer you like to just sit n supervise him lol
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[Nechako87]

OP trusts random RS member to sit in gfs apartment while deadbeat roommate moves out. :suspicious:

[stewie]

OP trusts random RS member to sit in gfs apartment while deadbeat roommate moves out. :suspicious:

Was meant as a joke lol, as in anyone is safer to trust than her current roommate :p
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[Prolowtone]

RS meet to watch the guy and creep him out? :awwyeah:

[CRS]

I feel like Gridlock and Dino can provide some advice here.

Side note, don't take his shit. You can't do this ransom situation thing. It isn't going to work and will actually work against you.

I've moved this to VOT (with a redirect) so that Dino and Grid will likely see this.

[noventa]

threaten him with the small claim court. But since you know he probably can't pay, try to settle with him by having him clean the entire apartment properly including that couch!

[noventa]

post pic of your gf. Then we can help you find a room mate! = )

[dinosaur]

There isn't really anything she can do in regards to recouping money under the residential tenancy laws. Also, taking someone to small claims for a couch is ridiculous, a waste of time, and a waste of tax payers' money. At most, she would get $100 for it....and that is a stretch.

Going forward, if she chooses to do this again, she can protect herself by having the roommate sign a tenancy agreement with her. Essentially, she would be the "landlord" and the roommate would be the "tenant". This works great for these types of situations (renting a room, etc). She takes a security deposit from the tenant/roommate (including a pet deposit in required) which will protect her belonging and any damage to the apartment that was not caused by her.

This 'tenancy agreement' would also allow her to evict a bad roommate for any clause of the tenancy act that he/she breaks. She will, however, need to talk to her landlord to make sure it is okay, because it could turn into a sub-lease issue should she ever leave and some agreements do not allow a property to be sub-lease or have different rules and regulations pertaining to them.

Personally, I do not like having my tenants rent a room to someone else as all potential renters need to be properly vetted. Credit, reference, etc all need to be checked and I can not guarantee that this has been done to any standard. Normally when one of my tenants has another person move in we will amend the tenancy agreement to include all people living there...this allows all occupants to be treated equally and avoids problems when one of them moves out.

As an aside, your gf is VERY lucky that she is not being evicted as well. Yes, I understand that she may have not cause damage, mess, etc to begin with, but she is essentially responsible for the rental property. She also needs to know that any damage created by this roommate is her problem...she will have to clean and repair anything problems and if not, will have to pay for them. I would sincerely thank her landlords for not going after her for all of this...

[inv4zn]

I am amazed that RS went through 17 (semi) serious posts before someone asked for pictures of g/f.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdop0yWaNA1qiabqyo2_500.gif

[parm104]

Apart from the pissed on couch, what else does he owe her money for?

What kind of lease did she get into in this apartment if any?

[punkwax]

nope, which is why i still live at home..fuck renting, id rather save up and buy a place and let someone else live with me...let them pay my mortgage off.

It's really that easy folks. :facepalm:

[CharlesInCharge]

Have your girl secretly audio record him reassuring repayment then when he doesnt pay, the courts should compensate something worth the trouble.

[Mr.Money]

Taking a guy to small claims court when he's
-unemployed
-can't pay his phone bill
-someone you met off craigslist

Sounds like a plan. :troll:

Cut your losses. WTF took her so long.



He couldn't Pay Rent So he was Paying her in Sexxx till the landlords came around.
Fucking Craigslist relationship Friends with Benefit ads

[Kidnapman]

Have your girl secretly audio record him reassuring repayment then when he doesnt pay, the courts should compensate something worth the trouble.

I believe in order to bring it to court as evidence, the person being recorded must know he/she is being recorded.

[parm104]

I believe in order to bring it to court as evidence, the person being recorded must know he/she is being recorded.

That's not true.

[stewie]

Thanks dinosaur, her landlords have been talking with her on almost a daily basis since she's lived there, she's been reporting everything that he breaks on the day he does it.
Her landlords live upstairs and they want her to stay living there...they just want him out.
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[Mr.HappySilp]

I still remember when at BCIT someone borrow money from my frd and never bother to pay, just aovided his calls and shit. Frd got a bunch of buddies go to the guy class took his laptop, books and everything and just walk out. Guy is smart enough to pay the next day to get his shit back. Have your gf do the same thing. Take his more valueable pession and let him know he isn't getting it back till he pays (computers, car keys, TV.......)

[stewie]

I still remember when at BCIT someone borrow money from my frd and never bother to pay, just aovided his calls and shit. Frd got a bunch of buddies go to the guy class took his laptop, books and everything and just walk out. Guy is smart enough to pay the next day to get his shit back. Have your gf do the same thing. Take his more valueable pession and let him know he isn't getting it back till he pays (computers, car keys, TV.......)

heh, ive suggested that to her countless times...but honestly...this guy has nothing to his name except for his computer...no car, no nice clothes, nothing worth more then 100$ really.

taking him to small claims court is something she doesnt want to have to do cause yes, in the end, she'll get maybe 100$ out of it at tops, but at this point, she'd rather put him through hell then let him walk away scott free.

[Stiig]

take his dogs as hostage until he pays back

[stewie]

threaten him with the small claim court. But since you know he probably can't pay, try to settle with him by having him clean the entire apartment properly including that couch!

take his dogs as hostage until he pays back

lol i would love to, but shes looking for things to do legally to get her money back.

[Jason00S2000]

How about be treat him nicely and see how he responds

If you receive anger and turn to hate on a person you'll just make yourself mad for no reason
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The dude abides

[inv4zn]

It sounds like this guy is on the verge of being homeless lol.

I know we're not saints but maybe just cut him a break? His situation is pretty fucked up as it is; I think it's established that your girlfriend isn't really getting anything worthwhile back.

I won't go as far as to suggest helping him, but maybe just wish him good luck or something. Your girlfriend will sleep much better at night this way too.

[Jason00S2000]

Am I the only one who feels bad for the guy?

Nobody in his life is noticing his shit falling apart? I wonder if he even has any parents

[stewie]

It sounds like this guy is on the verge of being homeless lol.

I know we're not saints but maybe just cut him a break? His situation is pretty fucked up as it is; I think it's established that your girlfriend isn't really getting anything worthwhile back.

I won't go as far as to suggest helping him, but maybe just wish him good luck or something. Your girlfriend will sleep much better at night this way too.

i honestly think he is on the verge of being homeless, he says hes got a friend who hes going to stay with for a bit....but once the friend see's how he lives first hand...they'll have him booted out in no time.

[dvst8]

I'd rather move back home then find a craigslist roomie. Truthfully, I don't think shes getting her money back and she should leave it at that. No point opening a new can of worms by going to small claims court. Just accept the mistake and move on.

[inv4zn]

As stupid as this may sound, even if the guy is a total slob, if you think he's a decent guy at least point him in the right direction. Do some good in life :alonehappy:

[stewie]

okay, well thanks for all the speedy responses!!

i've basically got all the info i need to pass on to her!

i'll just let her know its a complete lost cause and to just walk away from it...shes got 9 more days before hes out of her life forever.

[Stiig]

this may sound mean but,

if this guy is on the verge of being homeless, then he sounds like he deserves it.

he basically sits home all day unemployed (is he actually looking for a job or what?)
and lets his pets piss all over the place - this makes him sound like a irresponsible and lazy guy... so if he becomes homeless then i think he deserves it...

That being said, he can't expect every little shit to get handed to him.

[stewie]

this may sound mean but,

if this guy is on the verge of being homeless, then he sounds like he deserves it.

he basically sits home all day unemployed (is he actually looking for a job or what?)
and lets his pets piss all over the place - this makes him sound like a irresponsible and lazy guy... so if he becomes homeless then i think he deserves it...

That being said, he can't expect every little shit to get handed to him.

i fully agree with you, ive no sympathy for him whatsoever and neither does my gf. he deserves everything thats about to happen to him, its time for him to grow up and put his big boy pants on and step into the real world.

[truth]

heh, ive suggested that to her countless times...but honestly...this guy has nothing to his name except for his computer...no car, no nice clothes, nothing worth more then 100$ really.

taking him to small claims court is something she doesnt want to have to do cause yes, in the end, she'll get maybe 100$ out of it at tops, but at this point, she'd rather put him through hell then let him walk away scott free.

nomsayin?

[spyker]

It sounds like this guy is on the verge of being homeless lol.

I know we're not saints but maybe just cut him a break? His situation is pretty fucked up as it is; I think it's established that your girlfriend isn't really getting anything worthwhile back.

I won't go as far as to suggest helping him, but maybe just wish him good luck or something. Your girlfriend will sleep much better at night this way too.
You would not be so sympathetic and so caring about this guy if you were in the OP's girlsfiends situation right now.

I have a strong feeling you would be raging mad.....I know I would.

people like this dirtbag roomate take advantage of people like this girl all the time,it would not surprise me if he did this to his previous roomates before her.

[sexyaccord]

If you receive anger and turn to hate on a person
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anger leads to hate, and hate leads to Suffering!

[stewie]

You would not be so sympathetic and so caring about this guy if you were in the OP's girlsfiends situation right now.

I have a strong feeling you would be raging mad.....I know I would.

people like this dirtbag roomate take advantage of people like this girl all the time,it would not surprise me if he did this to his previous roomates before her.

odds are its not his first time, hes in his 30's, shes in her early 20's...i dont even live there and i hate him.

[Iceman-19]

Always been iffy about that shit, and this proved my gut right....:ahwow:
I thought this was someone she knew that moved in with her

I had a random Craigslist roomie, turned out great and we are best friends to this day. The roomie is a female as well.
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[spyker]

odds are its not his first time, hes in his 30's, shes in her early 20's...i dont even live there and i hate him.

He's in his 30's and he still acts like this? There's no fucking hope for this guy at all,he will remain single for the rest of his fucking life unless he finds someone that's just as filthy as he is.

Just wondering,why doesn't your girlfriend just move in with you?

[stewie]

He's in his 30's and he still acts like this? There's no fucking hope for this guy at all,he will remain single for the rest of his fucking life unless he finds someone that's just as filthy as he is.

Just wondering,why doesn't your girlfriend just move in with you?

We've been dating for less than a year, I live with my parents (it's the Italian way :p) and I'm saving up to buy a condo. Once I've got one I've no problem if she were to live with me, but for now with the lil medical problem I have, it's not a good time to be going out and buy one.
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[Jason00S2000]

odds are its not his first time, hes in his 30's, shes in her early 20's...i dont even live there and i hate him.


Difference is, a woman in her 20s has plenty of men who would support her and not let her be in danger of being homeless

A 30s man's value to society plummets, FAST, and once a man is broke and in his 40s, his value is near 0

Come down to the poor DTES hood, most of the people people are older men, forgotten and useless to society

[Jason00S2000]

On the other hand, if you sit around and make a mess, and do nothing that has benefit to anyone, and you're a dick... well, you get what you deserve then!

[vantrip]

Make the cat disappear, piss and poo problem solved :troll:

[stewie]

Make the cat disappear, piss and poo problem solved :troll:

lol she told him that already in the summer..

during the day when she'd be at work, hed shut all the windows and let the cats piss and shit on things and the smell would just fester in the suite. she'd get home lock his cats in his room and open all the windows...the moment she leaves the room, windows get shut and cats get free roam to piss and shit more. so she told him "from now on the cats dont get free roam in common areas...the place fucking reeks, and its disgusting, if it happens again, the cats are goin for a drive to chilliwack"

but anyways, ive got the answers ive needed, so im pretty much done with this thread, if a mod wants to lock or delete it im good with that :)

[parm104]

Difference is, a woman in her 20s has plenty of men who would support her and not let her be in danger of being homeless

A 30s man's value to society plummets, FAST, and once a man is broke and in his 40s, his value is near 0

Come down to the poor DTES hood, most of the people people are older men, forgotten and useless to society

If you or anyone else here is concerned about this gentlemen, well then kudos to you guys. Noble sentiments for sure. But why don't you instead go and give him a place to stay or perhaps pay his debts for him?

OP's gf is not faultless here...it's absurd to put yourself in a position where you decide to live with a person you meet on Craigslist. We think twice before even buying or selling a phone to someone online, and she's gone out and lived with someone from CL. Granted, everyone's situation may be different and she might have had no choice. But I find it hard to believe that she couldn't find a 1 bedroom apartment for the cost of her share of the rent.

That being said, should we feel sympathetic for OP's gf? I think not...And on the same note, sympathetic for the guy who's screwing over OP's gf? Certainly not. You can't justify making someone else pay for your misfortunes. If his income wasn't steady and he wasn't going to behave responsibly (with your pets, property, etc.) then he shouldn't have gone into an agreement with someone else.

OP - you've asked what kind recourse you can take in this situation but have failed to mention what kind of agreement your gf got into when she moved to this place. I don't see how you can get any sound advice without divulging that information.

[stewie]

OP - you've asked what kind recourse you can take in this situation but have failed to mention what kind of agreement your gf got into when she moved to this place. I don't see how you can get any sound advice without divulging that information.

im honestly not sure what agreement she got into, im not with her at the moment.

as for the course of action she'll be taking, its calling it a lost cause and moving on.

and yes, i wont go and say my gf is not to blame for getting a roommate off of craigslist, but for the area she wants to live in, its easier for her to get to work, and easier for her to be around all the places she needs to go. shes not going to get a 1br suite in poco when she could get one close to work in vancouver. none of her friends were currently looking for a place to live, or else she would be room mates with one of them in a heart beat, so she did what anyone would do, interview a dozen people, widdle it down to 3 or 4, interview them again and again until she had a solid decision...its not like she can hook up a lie detector to each person she interviews to see if they're bullshitting her about how they live and how clean they are and etc..she just had to have some trust in the person and pray to god they weren't lying.

i think it can easily be justified to blame him for her losses, he signed a 1 year contract to live there, after a week or 2 in, he lost his job, and didnt even attempt to get a new one, he spends his entire day in his room not taking care of his pets which were ruining all of her items. when a person has multiple pets, youd usually think that they can take care of them and at least clean up after them...especially when your trying to find a roommate, your not going into an interview saying "yea i dont like changing the kitty litter, the whole house is their litter box, i only do dishes once a week, i have no respect for others." i believe she did what was needed when looking for a roomie, shes not psychic, she cant tell when someone lies to them when shes never met the person before.

[CRS]

I didn't want to have to say this but let's keep on topic here.

Let's keep the inner 12 year old comments to ourselves and actually help out the OP and his gf.

[stewie]

OP - you've asked what kind recourse you can take in this situation but have failed to mention what kind of agreement your gf got into when she moved to this place. I don't see how you can get any sound advice without divulging that information.

im honestly not sure what agreement she got into, im not with her at the moment.

as for the course of action she'll be taking, its calling it a lost cause and moving on.

and yes, i wont go and say my gf is not to blame for getting a roommate off of craigslist, but for the area she wants to live in, its easier for her to get to work, and easier for her to be around all the places she needs to go. shes not going to get a 1br suite in poco when she could get one close to work in vancouver. none of her friends were currently looking for a place to live, or else she would be room mates with one of them in a heart beat, so she did what anyone would do, interview a dozen people, widdle it down to 3 or 4, interview them again and again until she had a solid decision...its not like she can hook up a lie detector to each person she interviews to see if they're bullshitting her about how they live and how clean they are and etc..she just had to have some trust in the person and pray to god they weren't lying.

i think it can easily be justified to blame him for her losses, he signed a 1 year contract to live there, after a week or 2 in, he lost his job, and didnt even attempt to get a new one, he spends his entire day in his room not taking care of his pets which were ruining all of her items. when a person has multiple pets, youd usually think that they can take care of them and at least clean up after them...especially when your trying to find a roommate, your not going into an interview saying "yea i dont like changing the kitty litter, the whole house is their litter box, i only do dishes once a week, i have no respect for others." i believe she did what was needed when looking for a roomie, shes not psychic, she cant tell when someone lies to them when shes never met the person before.

OP's gf is not faultless here...it's absurd to put yourself in a position where you decide to live with a person you meet on Craigslist. We think twice before even buying or selling a phone to someone online, and she's gone out and lived with someone from CL. Granted, everyone's situation may be different and she might have had no choice. But I find it hard to believe that she couldn't find a 1 bedroom apartment for the cost of her share of the rent.

yes, but also, what if you were to buy a phone from CL, meet up with the person in a public parking lot, the man steps out in black shoes, pants, shirt, with a white collar...a priest, are you going to assume that a man like him is telling the truth? or instantly going to think that its a ghetto guy just trying to sell a shitty phone that will crap out an hour after you turn it on.