[kiwee]

Hi!

I need help finding a laptop to use for school and most likely I'll be caring it 3x a week. I'm an Interior Design student and in need of a laptop that don't lag on me. Programs I use are: AutoCad (usually big drawings or I'm rendering 3D objects or an interior), the occasional photoshop, sketchup, the basic microsoft words.

One of my friends told me to get an i7 with 6GB+ Ram and high resolution. Another friend told me I can get away with a i5 with 4GB Ram and something 1300 resolution. Both said 15"

The thing is, I'm on a budget as I am paying my own tuition fee + student loan...so any Apple product is a no go for me. I need something under 700 tax included..I've been searching and can't seem to anything in that price..I'm trying to take advantage of Memory Express 25% (if I find a price lower then them)..

What I'm looking for is:

- A laptop that won't lag when I switch between programs
- Render fast while in 3D
- weight doesn't REALLY matter but under 6lb is ok for me
- As long as the program fits within the screen and doesn't cut half of it off, I'm happy.
- Low cost and long lasting!

Also, my friends told me to look into the Asus and Samsung brand

[CP.AR]

if you are running ACAD Apple is never a "go" anyways.
Sure OSX supports AutoCAD already, but a lot of plug-ins are still PC Exclusive, and it will most likely remain that way.

Get an Asus for sure - their pricing is really good for the price matching the specs.
Samsung is going down the road that apple is - all show but no bang for your buck.

I'd get something that runs Windows 7, and has as much ram as you can find, along with an i7, third gen if possible.
ACAD is a beast of a powerhog.

one last tip: ACAD generally runs a LOT better on Intel machines. AMD chips just don't cut it

[kiwee]

Do you have any laptop recommendations? It'll be much appreciated!

[mos_skeeto]

Ram isn't super expensive anymore so I would go for 6 gigs or more. I'm biased because I hate carrying a laptop that's bigger than 13 inches so I would rather give up performance for size. You can always plug in a monitor. I prefer laptops with no cd drives as that helps with the weight and thickness. I'm out of the loop with CPU and video card specs so if I post something underpowered I apologize. Copy and paste the chip model into google to see benchmarks.

Vostro 3360 Laptop Details (http://www.dell.com/ca/business/p/vostro-3360/pd.aspx?c=ca&cs=cabsdt1&l=en&s=bsd&~ck=mn&~ck=mn) (customizable)
Samsung NP530U4C-S02CA Intel Core i5 3317M 6GB 1TB 14in GT620M DVDRW WLAN Win7 HP Ultrabook (http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=73364&vpn=NP530U4C-S02CA&manufacture=Samsung&promoid=1201) 799 (i know its over your budget)
ASUS Vivobook S400CA-RH51T Intel Core i5 3317U 4GB 500GB 24GB SSD 14.1IN Windows 8 Touch Ultrabook (http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=77130&vpn=S400CA-RH51T-CA&manufacture=Others&promoid=1201) 699

[Manic!]

I think with Autocad you need a dedicated graphics card. Check Redflagdeals.com every day for a sale.

[Mr.HappySilp]

With what you want $700 won't cut it. Maybe around $900 then you have a lot more options.
I would suggest an Asus or lenovo. I got an HP Envy right now seems very decent but a bit out of your budget.

[Wormiez]

Make sure whichever laptop you choose, the hardware is certified to run AutoCAD.

Check the Autodesk - Certified Hardware list -
Autodesk - Certified Hardware - Find Recommended Hardware (http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/syscert?id=18844534&siteID=123112)

System Requirements for AutoCAD -
AutoCAD 2013 - System Requirements - Autodesk (http://usa.autodesk.com/autocad/system-requirements/)
- For 64 bit machines, always double up the recommended RAM, it makes a big difference

I have seen high performance laptops, not able to render AutoCAD drawings because the graphics card was not recommended to run Autodesk drawings..

[mos_skeeto]

ASUS 14.1" Ultrabook - Black (Intel Core i5-3317U / 24GB SSD 750GB HDD / 6GB RAM / Windows 8) : Ultrabooks - Future Shop (http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/asus-asus-14-1-ultrabook-black-intel-core-i5-3317u-24gb-ssd-750gb-hdd-6gb-ram-windows-8-s46cm-fh51-cb/10227470.aspx?path=a686fbf689f950d54e01bd0c7559f26 6en02)

Saw this on redflagdeals. Haven't checked Wormiez links above but that's great advice.

[GLOW]

I think with Autocad you need a dedicated graphics card. Check Redflagdeals.com every day for a sale.

for 3d CAD that card better be kickass too IMO

[lilaznviper]

i work with supporting ACAD users, and what i found is this.
If your using a laptop, it must have its own dedicated graphics card, intergrated isn't going to cut it and make sure its nvidia as ATI will cause a lot of headaches.
i7 is a must and the more ram the better.

Its hard to find the right laptop to run acad smoothly as most people in the industry use desktop vs laptop.

700 dollars is not going to cut it for a laptop maybe a desktop but for sure not a laptop.

[freakshow]

under 700 after tax? there is only one website that you can go to

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(srs)

[Presto]

What software will you be, actually, using on your laptop, while you're in class? If you don't need a lot of processing power for class, then get a light, entry-level laptop, and then purchase a full desktop for home.

[bananana]

Try a Lenovo ThinkPad. This is the laptop given to everyone that works in architecture -- will work fine for both CAD and Sketchup. For 3DS max and other programs you're going to need a desktop.

[Manic!]

Try a Lenovo ThinkPad. This is the laptop given to everyone that works in architecture -- will work fine for both CAD and Sketchup. For 3DS max and other programs you're going to need a desktop.

Thinkpads come in a variety of configurations. Some would be good for auto cad some would be no good.

[kiwee]

Thanks for the replies!

So far, I've looked at some specs on laptops that my friend gave me. I'm try to stalk the pricing to see if it ever goes down..Another thing is that my classmate told me to get a laptop with a spec that's SDD..does that even relate to anythinf between a SDD and a HDD? Sorry not really computer savy

Asus N56VZ-DH71-CA w/ Core i7-3630QM, 8GB, 750GB, Blu-ray Combo, 15.6in FHD, GeForce GT 650M, Win 8 64-bit at Memory Express (http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX42053)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=75869&vpn=NP550P5C-T01US&manufacture=Samsung

[freakshow]

Those computers aren't bad, but the top one is almost 2x your initial budget, and the second one is about 1.5x more.

If you are able to increase your budget, give us the final number and we can help make a decision.

RE: ThinkPads. I love think pads, but no way you're finding one to do what you want under $700 after taxes..

[mos_skeeto]

does that even relate to anythinf between a SDD and a HDD?

Solid State has no spinning parts.
Pros: fast, good on battery
Cons: smaller capacity, more expensive

Hard drives are traditional
Pros: large storage, cheap
Cons: slower, makes noise, make crunchy noises if you drop it a lot

There are also hybrids. I have one in my macbook.

[Sushi604]

Yeah, you don't have much options here at the $700 range. In fact, the video card alone will be your biggest set back.

Typically dedicated mobile video cards that are designed for CAD (usually its just the drivers that makes all the difference) are far more expensive than the CPU and worse, are anywhere from 10-25% worse performing than their respective PC counterparts.

If your able to use a gaming video card to perform your CAD work, then I highly recommend you upping your budget and get into some gaming laptops such as the ASUS G lines. At the very least they are usually installed with a nVidia 560 or better and a i7 CPU.

To switch between tasks easier, that'll be up to you to afford buying a SSD of any kind. But that adds on to the price as well.

Otherwise my suggestion would be this: Dell Precision Mobile Workstations - Performance on the Go | Dell (http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/precision-laptops?~ck=anav)

It ain't the fastest, but its the closes to your price range if you are willing to pay the $150 to upgrade to the Quadro 1000 (which sadly equivalent to a nVidia 540m video card).

[kiwee]

Well, I'm planning to finance it through my boyfriend..but since everyone mention that I should up my price, then under $1000? I'm using shopbot to compare prices so if I find one that is in stock and ME has it, I can use their 25% uber price beat which will lower the cost a bit more.

[roastpuff]

by not that much though, 25% of the difference only. Usually laptop prices do not fluctuate that wildly.

There is a possibility of snagging an older ASUS N53 series laptop for pretty cheap, and some models come with a 2GB Nvidia video card and i7. Can also upgrade them to 16gb of ram easily because they have 4 ram slots. I know a few London Drugs locations still have them running around. Priced around 800? Have to check when I get into work next.
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[Presto]

I can see that cost is a concern, and you should focus on what you really need. For the AutoCAD course, will you be using your own laptop, or are computers provided? The course should have the equipment you need in the classroom. Everything else you need it for can be done on an economical, possibly-used laptop, if you require the portability. Do you have a computer @ home? What are the specs?

[kiwee]

I can see that cost is a concern, and you should focus on what you really need. For the AutoCAD course, will you be using your own laptop, or are computers provided? The course should have the equipment you need in the classroom. Everything else you need it for can be done on an economical, possibly-used laptop, if you require the portability. Do you have a computer @ home? What are the specs?

They recently changed the courses into computer (so no more hand drafting) and possibly it'll be more on autocad/3d/sketchup. I don't mind it being heavy, since I'll probably just use it 2-3x a week.. I COULD use the school computer (I'm in BCIT NE1, if anyone know where that is) and 95% of the time it's filled till 10pm and then the building closes at 1am. I can't go to ehpod (library) because it doesn't have sketchup (but has autocad) if i'm working in between two programs.

[Sushi604]

If that's the case, and if BCIT will allow Remote Desktop access, I would rather setup a Remote Desktop server that is capable of performing rendering, and buy Shaw's best upload package and work remotely.

Buying a laptop and specifically using it for CAD for cheap just doesn't go together. It can be done, but at what cost?

[freakshow]

This one isn't bad.. i7, GTX 660M: IdeaPad Y580 - Powerful Gaming Laptop PC by Lenovo (US) (http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/laptop/ideapad/y-series/y580/)

You will need to wait for a good sale or coupon code though.

[Sushi604]

Oh, if your boyfriend is financing you, then without a doubt, I would get this. Its too bad they no longer make the 17" version.

Lenovo W530 Specs | ThinkPad Laptop Tech Specs | Lenovo (US) (http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/tech-specs/laptop/thinkpad/w-series/w530/)

[kiwee]

If that's the case, and if BCIT will allow Remote Desktop access, I would rather setup a Remote Desktop server that is capable of performing rendering, and buy Shaw's best upload package and work remotely.

Buying a laptop and specifically using it for CAD for cheap just doesn't go together. It can be done, but at what cost?

I don't think BCIT allows Remote Desktop access, it's not JUST for CAD, it's for other programs too. Also don't I need a good laptop to access the Remote Desktop? I also don't think I can use the library's computer and go into remote

[Sushi604]

Why would you need a good laptop to access it? Your accessing another computer. That has nothing to do with performance of the laptop. What matters is the how fast your computer will render and the upload performance of the connection.

What you will need is a laptop that has and awesome Ethernet card. Otherwise going wireless will depend on the quality of the connection and wireless card.

[freakshow]

her bf isn't financing it.. he's buying it, and she's paying him back.

also, i wouldn't recommend at 17". you dont want to be carrying that around..

[!MiKrofT]

Using remote access is not a good idea. So instead of getting a decent laptop you're recommending her to buy a fast and powerful desktop, a laptop to remote in, AND upgrade her internet access?

[roastpuff]

I don't think BCIT allows Remote Desktop access, it's not JUST for CAD, it's for other programs too. Also don't I need a good laptop to access the Remote Desktop? I also don't think I can use the library's computer and go into remote

AutoCAD doesn't allow for remote access yet. So she can't do that either. I'm at BCIT as well, if you need rooms to work in with AutoCAD wander over to SW3, usually fairly empty at night.
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[Sushi604]

Using remote access is not a good idea. So instead of getting a decent laptop you're recommending her to buy a fast and powerful desktop, a laptop to remote in, AND upgrade her internet access?

I wouldn't say that. Being able to work remotely is probably the best thing you can do in this situation. If she's able to establish this much ground work (I assume she has a PC already capable of performing CAD work in the first place), she wouldn't need a decent laptop, any laptop will do, with a decent resolution anyways.

However as per roastpuff

AutoCAD doesn't allow for remote access yet. So she can't do that either. I'm at BCIT as well, if you need rooms to work in with AutoCAD wander over to SW3, usually fairly empty at night.
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Remote access isn't a viable option otherwise he/she would have done so as well.

[kiwee]

This is some complicated stuff..I just want a laptop to work at school while I have lab time. I can't really use my home computer either because I'm running an old processor *according to my friend* which lags like crazy and takes long to render an image

[Manic!]

If you are going to buy a W series think pad buy it from the EPP site and save a few $.

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/ibmeppfriendca/StdAffinityPortal/en_CA/catalog.workflow:category.details?current-catalog-id=12F0696583E04D86B9B79B0FEC01C087&current-category-id=2C97FC85C7C8F3E474C5707478FDCCD0&action=init

more info here: [Comp] Lenovo ThinkPad & IdeaPad - EPP Discounted with coupons - no min!! - RedFlagDeals.com Forums (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/lenovo-thinkpad-ideapad-epp-discounted-coupons-no-min-777107/)

Also why not ask one of the instructors on what type of laptop to get?

[kiwee]

If you are going to buy a W series think pad buy it from the EPP site and save a few $.

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/ibmeppfriendca/StdAffinityPortal/en_CA/catalog.workflow:category.details?current-catalog-id=12F0696583E04D86B9B79B0FEC01C087&current-category-id=2C97FC85C7C8F3E474C5707478FDCCD0&action=init

more info here: [Comp] Lenovo ThinkPad & IdeaPad - EPP Discounted with coupons - no min!! - RedFlagDeals.com Forums (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/lenovo-thinkpad-ideapad-epp-discounted-coupons-no-min-777107/)

Also why not ask one of the instructors on what type of laptop to get?

Some deal with imac/apple and some uses desktop. Ones that I've asked when I was first taking autocad, they just say find a good processors and a good graphics card. =/

[freakshow]

Check out the Y580 that i mentioned. great processor, great video card at a decent price.

The Sager NP6350 is also a great laptop at a great price:
Reflexnotebook.ca is your Source for the Sager NP6350 (Clevo W350ETQ) in Canada (http://www.reflexnotebook.ca/sager-notebooks/sager-display/sager-15display/sager-np6350.html)

upgrade to i7 for $70, and it comes with a GTX660M video card, which should be fast enough for you

[Tawpie]

First off, I have no idea what kind of specs are needed for your course.

Since I doubt you know about BCIT Library's loan services, allow me to suggest:

You can go to SE14 (Library), and burrow a laptop with your student card. The loan time is for 3 hours.

No spec listed (http://www.bcit.ca/library/students/mobile.shtml)

Good luck and better hurry. Being handicapped at BCIT isn't much fun.

[CP.AR]

also OP are you actually RENDERING files or animations or just pure ACAD design

if the answer is YES, Rendering sequences and stuff, you want as good as a CPU as you can get

if the answer is PURE ACAD DESIGN, you want as good as a GPU as you can get

[kiwee]

also OP are you actually RENDERING files or animations or just pure ACAD design

if the answer is YES, Rendering sequences and stuff, you want as good as a CPU as you can get

if the answer is PURE ACAD DESIGN, you want as good as a GPU as you can get

I create floor plan/3d from scratch..I forgot to mention that I use revit and might use vector works in the future. These programs I have to select materials/finishes for the design..if that matters then I render it..so what u said for the second one?

[Mr.HappySilp]

Try and see if you can get aDelfl Vostro 3560 a deal. They seem pretty decent and since it is a business class laptop the build quality is much much better and also service is better as well.

[impulseX]

i was originally going to suggest this one...

Acer Aspire TimelineX 5830T-6486 w/ Core i5-2450M, 8GB, 500GB, DVD+/-RW, 15.6in HD, Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit at Memory Express (http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX40199)

but after reading through, it seems the model before (4830tg-6576 which is what i have) seems like it might fit your needs more.
but i think you'd have to buy one second hand or something =\

mind you, i don't know much about these things anymore so i may not be of any help

[Ronin]

I wouldn't even think of buying computer today, laptop or desktop, that doesn't have an SSD in it.

[Manic!]

I wouldn't even think of buying computer today, laptop or desktop, that doesn't have an SSD in it.

I*t depends on how much storage you need. 128GB or even 256GB won't be enough for some people.

[!MiKrofT]

These are bit out of budget but since you'll be using it for awhile better to spend a bit more now. They're both 15" difference being a 1920 screen vs 1366 and bluray vs dvdr. AutoCAD really works better with the professional type of graphics cards like Quadro and FireGL. The Dell Precision are great since they use those cards but they start at $1300.

Here's some from Lenovo with Nvidia GTX660m 8GB RAM and Core i7

$949
Laptop Computers | IdeaPad Y Series | Y580 | Lenovo | (CA) (http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/webca/LenovoPortal/en_CA/catalog.workflow:item.detail?GroupID=458&Code=20998PU&category-id=FD2E87DA2C36F27C12CC7CD3494BC0ED)

$849
Laptop Computers | IdeaPad Y Series | Y580 | Lenovo | (CA) (http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/webca/LenovoPortal/en_CA/catalog.workflow:item.detail?GroupID=458&Code=20998WU&category-id=FD2E87DA2C36F27C12CC7CD3494BC0ED)

Here's a Lenovo with Quadro but at $1187
http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e2/webca/LenovoPortal/en_CA/fr_CA/catalog.workflow:item.detail?GroupID=37&Code=W530_BASE_CA&category-id=2C97FC85C7C8F3E474C5707478FDCCD0

[Ronin]

I*t depends on how much storage you need. 128GB or even 256GB won't be enough for some people.

Then get an external USB 3.0 drive. SSD is the biggest speed difference you can get right now. You should at least have one of those Momentus drives but not having an SSD is the stone age now.

[Manic!]

Then get an external USB 3.0 drive. SSD is the biggest speed difference you can get right now. You should at least have one of those Momentus drives but not having an SSD is the stone age now.

SSD's will help with load times but I don't think it will help with render times.

[freakshow]

An SSD is not a requirement for someone on a budget that needs CPU/GPU power for school projects.

[rageguy]

At the OP's budget, it's pretty much whatever you can afford. No, you can't get a decent machine because your requirements are too high. But you could just live with a slight wait in rendering, right? Go make a coffee.

Samsung NP530U4C-S02CA Intel Core i5 3317M 6GB 1TB 14in GT620M DVDRW WLAN Win7 HP Ultrabook (http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=73364&vpn=NP530U4C-S02CA&manufacture=Samsung&promoid=1201)

$799.99+tax. Core i5, 6GB of ram, 1TB hard drive, GT620M. It's an average machine that runs your software at an average speed.

[Alpine]

My GF graduated from the interior design program @ BCIT a few years ago.

Here's how I would rank what you need:
1. Screen size & Resolution
2. CPU
3. GPU

If weight or size is not a concern for you get a 17.3" screen and the highest resolution you can find. Small and light is nice and portable but trying to use AutoCAD/sketchup/revit/vectorworks on a 13.3 or 14" screen? :heckno:
i5 processor (i7 will be out of your price range)
Something better than an integrated GPU.

Here's what I would take a look at:
Option 1:
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/hewlett-packard-hp-pavilion-g7-17-3-laptop-black-intel-core-i5-3210m-750gb-hdd-8gb-ram-windows-8-g7-2254ca/10225906.aspx
Screen: 17.3" 1600x900
CPU: i5 3210
GPU: 7670m
$699.99 (exclusive of taxes, unfortunately)

Option 2:
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/toshiba-toshiba-15-6-laptop-silver-intel-core-i5-3210m-750gb-hdd-8gb-ram-windows-8-p850-04m/10232361.aspx
Screen: 15.6" 1366x768
CPU: i5 3210
GPU: GT630
$599.99 (exclusive of taxes).

[!MiKrofT]

At the OP's budget, it's pretty much whatever you can afford. No, you can't get a decent machine because your requirements are too high. But you could just live with a slight wait in rendering, right? Go make a coffee.

Samsung NP530U4C-S02CA Intel Core i5 3317M 6GB 1TB 14in GT620M DVDRW WLAN Win7 HP Ultrabook (http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=73364&vpn=NP530U4C-S02CA&manufacture=Samsung&promoid=1201)

$799.99+tax. Core i5, 6GB of ram, 1TB hard drive, GT620M. It's an average machine that runs your software at an average speed.
The Lenovo I posted is a better deal overall. For $50 more she'd be getting an i7, more ram, and a faster graphics card. Cost would be the extra weight of about a pound more.

[Manic!]

The Lenovo I posted is a better deal overall. For $50 more she'd be getting an i7, more ram, and a faster graphics card. Cost would be the extra weight of about a pound more.

Probable even cheaper on the EPP site.

[freakshow]

!MiKrofT and I both recommended the Y580.. how can you go wrong??

[!MiKrofT]

!MiKrofT and I both recommended the Y580.. how can you go wrong??
LOL. I was actually super tempted to get the Y580 with the 1080p screen when it first came out. There was an awesome promo for it from Lenovo at the time. I opted for ultrabook instead as I needed portability over anything else.

[kiwee]

Still looking for a laptop, friend suggested this one

Best Buy Canada - We'll be Back Soon - De retour sous peu (http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/hewlett-packard-hp-envy-spectre-xt-15-6-touchscreen-ultrabook-silver-intel-core-i7-3517u-128gb-sdd-8gb-ram-15-4095ca/10234980.aspx?lang=en-CA&pcname=&sku=10234980&path=9ff4e45bda08d4e0a73cd7d1abfd4a50en02)

my boyfriend has an HP laptop but his battery is a bit iffy..

[!MiKrofT]

Integrated video. The screen is nice. But your rendering will suffer.

[exdee]

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?webid=100008&CatIds=&AffixedCode=&=&=&=&cid=CSE:SBD:SHOPBOT:SE:100008

http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?webid=100005&cid=CSE:SBD:SHOPBOT:SE:100005_ENG

10% off on 25 & 26
http://blog.staples.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/CustomerAppr_JAN_EN.jpg

[Manic!]

Go run to your nearest BB and see if they have any stock. Great deal on a beast of a laptop that should have no problems running autocad.

[Comp] BB: ASUS N56 15.6" / Core i7-3630QM / 1TB HDD / 12GB RAM / 2GB GT 635M / Blu-Ray $800 - RedFlagDeals.com Forums (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/bb-asus-n56-15-6-core-i7-3630qm-1tb-hdd-12gb-ram-2gb-gt-635m-blu-ray-800-a-1291583/)

[!MiKrofT]

Go run to your nearest BB and see if they have any stock. Great deal on a beast of a laptop that should have no problems running autocad.

[Comp] BB: ASUS N56 15.6" / Core i7-3630QM / 1TB HDD / 12GB RAM / 2GB GT 635M / Blu-Ray $800 - RedFlagDeals.com Forums (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/bb-asus-n56-15-6-core-i7-3630qm-1tb-hdd-12gb-ram-2gb-gt-635m-blu-ray-800-a-1291583/)
Nice find!

[kiwee]

sold out

[Sushi604]

Video card is meh, everything else seems phenomenal for the price.

[Manic!]

http://www.revscene.net/forums/664077-fs-lnib-t520-thinkpad-i7-2860qm.html#post8141343 post in the classified section.

[Manic!]

and another good deal: [Comp] Lenovo: IdeaPad Y500 i7-3630/GT650M/1080p $799 + 4% Cashback & More (RFD Exclusive) - RedFlagDeals.com Forums (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/lenovo-ideapad-y500-i7-3630-gt650m-1080p-799-4-cashback-more-rfd-exclusive-1292582/)

[!MiKrofT]

and another good deal: [Comp] Lenovo: IdeaPad Y500 i7-3630/GT650M/1080p $799 + 4% Cashback & More (RFD Exclusive) - RedFlagDeals.com Forums (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/lenovo-ideapad-y500-i7-3630-gt650m-1080p-799-4-cashback-more-rfd-exclusive-1292582/)
I'd go with this deal. Make sure you use coupon code: CAPRFDY50020130124 to get the $799 price.