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StylinRed
02-11-2013, 10:45 AM
Pope Benedict XVI to resign citing poor health


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Pope Benedict XVI is to resign at the end of this month after nearly eight years as the head of the Catholic Church, saying he is too old to continue at the age of 85.

The unexpected development - the first papal resignation in nearly 600 years - surprised governments, Vatican-watchers and even his closest aides.

The Vatican says it expects a new Pope to be elected before Easter.

Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger became Pope in 2005 after John Paul II's death.

The BBC's David Willey in Rome says the move has come as a shock - but adds that in theory there has never been anything stopping Pope Benedict or any of his predecessors from stepping aside.

Under the Catholic Church's governing code, Canon Law, the only conditions for the validity of such a resignation are that it be made freely and be properly published.

But resignation is extremely rare: the last Pope to step aside was Pope Gregory XII, who resigned in 1415 amid a schism within the Church.


Doctor's advice
A Vatican spokesman, Father Federico Lombardi, said that even Pope Benedict's closest aides did not know what he was planning to do and were left "incredulous". He added that the decision showed "great courage" and "determination".

Italian Prime Minister Mario Monti is quoted as saying he was "greatly shaken by this unexpected news".

The brother of the German-born Pope said the pontiff had been advised by his doctor not to take any more transatlantic trips and had been considering stepping down for months.

Talking from his home in Regensburg in Germany, Georg Ratzinger said his brother was having increasing difficulty walking and that his resignation was part of a "natural process".

He added: "His age is weighing on him. At this age my brother wants more rest."

The Pope is not expected to take part in the conclave that will choose his successor, and will then retire to the papal residence at Castel Gandolfo when he leaves office.

Father Lombardi said the Pope would then move into a renovated monastery used by cloistered nuns inside the Vatican, for "a period of prayer and reflection".


'Full freedom'
At 78, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was one of the oldest new popes in history when elected.

He took the helm as one of the fiercest storms the Catholic Church has faced in decades - the scandal of child sex abuse by priests - was breaking.

In a statement, the pontiff said: "After having repeatedly examined my conscience before God, I have come to the certainty that my strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry.

"I am well aware that this ministry, due to its essential spiritual nature, must be carried out not only with words and deeds, but no less with prayer and suffering.

"However, in today's world, subject to so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance for the life of faith, in order to steer the ship of Saint Peter and proclaim the Gospel, both strength of mind and body are necessary, strength which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognise my incapacity to adequately fulfil the ministry entrusted to me.

"For this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome, Successor of Saint Peter, entrusted to me by the cardinals on 19 April 2005, in such a way, that as from 28 February 2013, at 20:00 hours, the See of Rome, the See of Saint Peter, will be vacant and a conclave to elect the new Supreme Pontiff will have to be convoked by those whose competence it is."

A theological conservative before and during his time as Pope, he has taken traditional positions on homosexuality and women priests, while urging abstinence instead of blessing the use of contraceptives.


European press roundup

The Pope's shock resignation on health grounds is an "eruption of modernity" into the Vatican, according to Ezio Mauro, chief editor of Italy's La Repubblica daily.

The Spanish daily El Mundo says Benedict XVI will be remembered as "God's sweeper" - the man who tried to resolve the "numerous problems of the Church that did so much harm to its image".

The editor of German broadcaster Deutsche Welle, Bernd Riegert, calls the Pope's move "a courageous step, a revolutionary step". "He has helped himself to freedom, he is setting boundaries. No longer will successors be able to cling onto their office."

European media stunned
His attempts at inter-faith relations were mixed, with Muslims, Jews and Protestants all taking offence at various times, despite ongoing efforts to reach out and visits to key holy sites, including those in Jerusalem.

A German government spokesman said he was "moved and touched" by the surprise resignation of the pontiff.

"The German government has the highest respect for the Holy Father, for what he has done, for his contributions over the course of his life to the Catholic Church.

"He has left a very personal signature as a thinker at the head of the Church, and also as a shepherd."

BBC News - Pope Benedict XVI to resign citing poor health (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-21411304)


Quite a surprise wonder what the real reason is, thought they were to serve til they passed

MG1
02-11-2013, 10:45 AM
Politics........

Mr.C
02-11-2013, 10:47 AM
Politics........

Well, it is a decent change. In the past, when politics got in the way, they just assassinated the Pope.

Excelsis
02-11-2013, 10:47 AM
1 satanist down

EmperorIS
02-11-2013, 10:50 AM
Prob got caught with CP

StylinRed
02-11-2013, 10:53 AM
I was actually expecting Alpha to mention Nostradamus

Excelsis
02-11-2013, 11:04 AM
lol ;)

TOS'd
02-11-2013, 11:13 AM
Most locals I spoke to didn't like him that much anyways, guess they are happy to hear this news.

dlo
02-11-2013, 12:09 PM
Always had a bad vibe from him compare to the previous pop, but meh I dun know shit bout this :fuckthatshit:
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AAnthony
02-11-2013, 12:10 PM
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murd0c
02-11-2013, 12:23 PM
I really wonder what the real reason is...

inv4zn
02-11-2013, 12:42 PM
I've ALWAYS made this comparison whenever I see a picture of the pope

http://wegoats.com/files/pope-benedict-palpatine.jpg.jpeg

Spartacus
02-11-2013, 12:43 PM
Easy. The sith lord still lives! He's rebuilding his galactic empire for Star Wars VII.

Edit: lol ^
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El Bastardo
02-11-2013, 02:12 PM
http://i.imgur.com/YP2gT6v.jpg


Seriously tho, I remember when Pope John Paul II passed away. I lived next to the Catholic church downtown and was woken up by their bells. He was a liberal pope who hated commies. Good guy.

The new pope took a reversal on that policy and condemned mass consumerism.

I saw on BBC World News about the consideration of a new black pope. Could be interesting.

For those of you not in the up and up on your Catholic history, there have been three or four African popes back in the day. It wouldn't surprise me if a Latin American pope is strongly considered as well.

tseman
02-11-2013, 02:16 PM
time for a chinese pope

StylinRed
02-11-2013, 02:17 PM
they have to reinforce where they're strong i guess

so a south american or african pope would make sense but i imagine they'd have to weigh the toll it may take on the base

LiquidTurbo
02-11-2013, 03:18 PM
Personally gonna miss the pope for this reason only.

http://i.imgur.com/BAcEXLH.jpg
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bloodmack
02-11-2013, 04:33 PM
so does the pope have any real power? or is it just another useless position of power that has diminished just like the queen of england. :lol

StylinRed
02-11-2013, 04:56 PM
to think the queen or the pope have no power is comical :P

will068
02-11-2013, 05:19 PM
they have to reinforce where they're strong i guess

so a south american or african pope would make sense but i imagine they'd have to weigh the toll it may take on the base

An Black African Pope would be cool. Just like how Obama became president. However, I wonder how much more racist attacks and threats will be though against a pope that is not of European background.

will068
02-11-2013, 05:22 PM
Politics........

Stress from politics ? He is 85 years old after all. Pope JP II died at 84.

rsx
02-11-2013, 05:30 PM
about time they put the rabbit in power.

twitchyzero
02-11-2013, 05:38 PM
An Black African Pope would be cool. Just like how Obama became president. However, I wonder how much more racist attacks and threats will be though against a pope that is not of European background.

i looked up if there was ever a female pope...unknown
Pope Joan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Joan)

willystyle
02-11-2013, 05:53 PM
so does the pope have any real power? or is it just another useless position of power that has diminished just like the queen of england. :lol
Pope has more power and influence than the queen. The Roman Catholic Church is the largest Christian church in the world with more than ONE BILLION followers. What he says, followers will listen.

rsx
02-11-2013, 06:01 PM
so does the pope have any real power? or is it just another useless position of power that has diminished just like the queen of england. :lol

Yes considerable power. Popes have killed so many Africans by telling them not to use condoms because it won't help prevent aids. That's fucking power.

SkinnyPupp
02-11-2013, 06:23 PM
Yes considerable power. Popes have killed so many Africans by telling them not to use condoms because it won't help prevent aids. That's fucking power.
Of course! All they need to do is get circumcised :derp:

RRxtar
02-11-2013, 06:38 PM
Of course! All they need to do is get circumcised :derp:
Circumcision is a Jew thing. The Catholics actually denounce it

RRxtar
02-11-2013, 06:41 PM
An Black African Pope would be cool. Just like how Obama became president. However, I wonder how much more racist attacks and threats will be though against a pope that is not of European background.
The rest of the world doesn't quite look down on black people the way north americans do (while jumping up and down saying we arent racist). There are several africans in high world standings around the world.

The previous 2 term Secretary-General of the United Nations was a black man from Ghana.

SkinnyPupp
02-11-2013, 06:46 PM
Circumcision is a Jew thing. The Catholics actually denounce it
I was referring to the people who say that circumcision prevents AIDS

source (http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2012/05/when-bad-science-kills-or-how-to-spread-aids/)

Since it's a bullshit myth that still gets propagated, there has to be some driving force behind it (conspiracy!). I didn't mean to infer that it was the pope who was doing this.

El Bastardo
02-11-2013, 06:51 PM
so does the pope have any real power? or is it just another useless position of power that has diminished just like the queen of england. :lol

The Pope has huge influence. Back in the 60s when the USA was electing their first Catholic president, JFK, there was a genuine concern that the Vatican would be advising the PotUS on important matters. They actually had to release a statement saying this would not be true.



Circumcision is a Jew thing. The Catholics actually denounce it

Theres an old school belief that circumcision prevents AIDS.

There is a lot of inaccurate cultural beliefs about AIDS in Africa. The President of South Africa, Jacob Zuma, actually believed he could prevent himself from catching HIV after having a shower just following having sex with an HIV-positive woman.

I think thats what Skinny was referencing. It used to be a popular belief in North America that you could catch more bacterial infections if you were uncircumcised but those of us who shower regularly aren't at risk of that.

Circumcision is no longer relevant unless its for cultural/religious reasons, and for that I know I'm lucky I was baptized Catholic.

MindBomber
02-11-2013, 07:05 PM
so does the pope have any real power? or is it just another useless position of power that has diminished just like the queen of england. :lol

The Vatican Library holds information that has the ability to re-write history, control over it is an enormous amount of power alone.

murd0c
02-11-2013, 07:49 PM
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1227/53777748523119486864018.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/53777748523119486864018.jpg/)

pastarocket
02-11-2013, 08:00 PM
-wonder if Benedict gets to keep the Popemobile as a retirement gift. :troll:

-never knew that Benedict rode in a bullet proof M Class:

http://www.dici.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/papamobile.jpg

Manic!
02-11-2013, 08:56 PM
so does the pope have any real power? or is it just another useless position of power that has diminished just like the queen of england. :lol

He is number 5 on on Forbes most powerful list.
The World's Most Powerful People - Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/powerful-people/)

There are over a billion people that follow him.

Nanaki
02-12-2013, 09:48 AM
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i297/delsolowner/image1.png

Lomac
02-12-2013, 10:14 AM
The rest of the world doesn't quite look down on black people the way north americans do (while jumping up and down saying we arent racist). There are several africans in high world standings around the world.

The previous 2 term Secretary-General of the United Nations was a black man from Ghana.

Yup. An African pope probably wouldn't be that big of a deal (though how many black cardinals are there?). A female pope, however... that would certainly stir shit up. :lol

mikemhg
02-12-2013, 10:44 AM
Hmmm, I wonder if his step down has anything to do with the allegations laid out in the recently released HBO documentary (released a few days ago) "Mea Maxima Culpa". The doc raises some major allegations about Pope Benedict, seeing as he was the main Inquisitor for the Catholic church for about 25 years, and in fact enacted rules within the church that any child molestation allegations would be reported to his desk and only his desk.

The man covered up a shitload of molestations, he's a piece of shit, and I guarantee more will come out about this as his reasoning for stepping down.

Mr.C
02-12-2013, 11:26 AM
Hmmm, I wonder if his step down has anything to do with the allegations laid out in the recently released HBO documentary (released a few days ago) "Mea Maxima Culpa". The doc raises some major allegations about Pope Benedict, seeing as he was the main Inquisitor for the Catholic church for about 25 years, and in fact enacted rules within the church that any child molestation allegations would be reported to his desk and only his desk.

The man covered up a shitload of molestations, he's a piece of shit, and I guarantee more will come out about this as his reasoning for stepping down.

That sounds way more likely.

krazynuck
02-12-2013, 11:38 AM
Lightning strikes Vatican 12 Feb 2013 ORIGINAL VIDEO in HQ - YouTube

http://www.crackedjustice.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/ohhemad.jpg

lowside67
02-12-2013, 12:59 PM
That sounds way more likely.
Really? Because I think the fact that he is 85, has a pacemaker, and can barely walk as his health fails seems like the most likely reason. There have been allegations about child molestation for 25 years, I can't see that he would start caring now...

Mark

mikemhg
02-12-2013, 02:51 PM
Of course there were allegations, but Benedict's involvement in the cover-up is just recently all coming out. Seems suspect to me, considering previous Popes pretty much stayed in power until death.

Yes I know Pope Benedict has stated previously that he would step down if he was in poor health.

Harvey Specter
02-12-2013, 02:52 PM
Hmmm, I wonder if his step down has anything to do with the allegations laid out in the recently released HBO documentary (released a few days ago) "Mea Maxima Culpa". The doc raises some major allegations about Pope Benedict, seeing as he was the main Inquisitor for the Catholic church for about 25 years, and in fact enacted rules within the church that any child molestation allegations would be reported to his desk and only his desk.

The man covered up a shitload of molestations, he's a piece of shit, and I guarantee more will come out about this as his reasoning for stepping down.

I watch this doc, shocking stuff and I wouldn't be surprised if this is the reason why he stepped down.

Mr.Money
02-13-2013, 01:11 AM
PROPAGANDA | FULL ENGLISH VERSION (2012) - YouTube

Go To 19:35 on Youtube

SkinnyPupp
02-13-2013, 03:28 AM
PROPAGANDA | FULL ENGLISH VERSION (2012) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NMr2VrhmFI&t=19m35s)

Go To 19:35 on Youtube
Fucking sick man... North Korea is pretty much at the point where there will never be "normal" people coming out of there for the next 100 years, no matter what happens.

dvst8
02-13-2013, 09:32 AM
For the most part, religion is the number one cause for hate in this world.

mikemhg
02-18-2013, 06:57 PM
I'll just leave this here, further to my point earlier:

Pope will have security, immunity by remaining in the Vatican | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/15/us-pope-resignation-immunity-idUSBRE91E0ZI20130215)

StylinRed
02-19-2013, 01:04 AM
that's interesting i thought he was going to live in seclusion only because it wouldn't look right for there to be 2 popes around and that he'd get bombarded by press etc for a multitude of reasons

protection from prosecution is an interesting one although i doubt that he'd get subpoenaed ever anyhow

noventa
02-20-2013, 11:03 PM
at least we still have jesus christ

Foralark
02-21-2013, 12:07 AM
This is stupid, but it gave me a chuckle...

noventa
02-21-2013, 12:09 AM
Psy should be the next pope

noventa
02-21-2013, 12:10 AM
opa gangnam style op op op opa opa

boss_clad
02-23-2013, 09:51 AM
i hate this fucking guy.
i hate religion.

there's been no sign or symbol of a greater power since how long?

i hope the enlightenment of our era comes soon. people need to wake up and stop believing in shit that doesn't matter anymore.


if the higher power just came down and did some cool shit like cure cancer and made it so harlem shake never existed, i would believe in a god, but this shit's getting old. hopefully it's phased out in our children's generation.

boss_clad
02-23-2013, 09:54 AM
and another thing, doesn't he look like the biggest goof in the popemobile.

gods representative on earth needs bulletproof protection? fucking jokes