[VRYALT3R3D]

top gear usa ford-raptor - YouTube

I am thinking of possibly picking one up at the end of the year as a DD...thoughts?

Note: I am aware of the shitty MPG.

[El Bastardo]

They're hot. I like them.

[heleu]

They're expensive, but awesome.

...but where would you use one locally? You need to drive pretty far to find sand dunes, and it's not built to be a rock crawler.

[Mr.Money]

Ford Raptor jumps 90 feet! - YouTube

[VRYALT3R3D]

They're expensive, but awesome.

...but where would you use one locally? You need to drive pretty far to find sand dunes, and it's not built to be a rock crawler.

Yeah they are. I priced one out and with incentives I'm looking at $61k-66k depending on the options.

Honestly, I'd probably barely use it offroad. I sort of want a badass, and very different DD that stands out. I am also doing some weird cross shopping and I looked at a '13 C63 and a '13 300 SRT8. I wasn't really a fan of the Mercedes though. SO that is probably out. I also like to travel a lot, and this is pretty much nearly invincible in the snow.

For 2013 it has:
Heated/Cooled Seats
My Ford Touch
Front and Rear Camera
Projector HIDs
And cool stuff like this:
http://media.ford.com/images/10031/031011_truck_App.jpg
and so on

[MarkyMark]

I love that truck, if I could afford it I'd have one.
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[MindBomber]

The Raptor is a cool truck, I'd love to own one.

The catch: I would only purchase one as an addition to a stable of a dozen other vehicles.

The Raptor has numerous bespoke features which are not shared with other F-series trucks and that's reflected in the price. Those expensive features enable the truck to do amazing things in certain types of terrain, which happen to not be readily accessible locally.

If I were in the market for a cool looking truck with wicked performance, I'd be looking at modifying a standard F150, Ram, Silverado, Taco, and would be looking at Jeeps too. Going this route, you'll be able to build something suited to exactly your tastes with features you'll actually use and quite possibly spend less doing it.

A SRT-10 would be very high on my list of consideration for "factory tuner" daily driven trucks, and if I wanted an off-road toy, I'd throw another $5-10k on a built 4runner. Best of both worlds; Viper engine for the street, and body panels I can scratch and dent without a second thought for the trail.

[GabAlmighty]

For what they are they're sweet, i'd rock one for sure.

[tofu1413]

+1 to rocking one.


perhaps one of the coolest trucks out there for the average consumer!

[dared3vil0]

Yeah they are. I priced one out and with incentives I'm looking at $61k-66k depending on the options.

Honestly, I'd probably barely use it offroad. I sort of want a badass, and very different DD that stands out. I am also doing some weird cross shopping and I looked at a '13 C63 and a '13 300 SRT8. I wasn't really a fan of the Mercedes though. SO that is probably out. I also like to travel a lot, and this is pretty much nearly invincible in the snow.

For 2013 it has:
Heated/Cooled Seats
My Ford Touch
Front and Rear Camera
Projector HIDs
And cool stuff like this:
http://media.ford.com/images/10031/031011_truck_App.jpg
and so on

That off road screen honestly isn't very useful... I have it in an F150 (NOT A RAPTOR) and for the ~5 ish times i've had it off road, it's been useful a grand total of 0 times. If you're not going to use it off road why buy it? Just buy like an FX2 or a Lariat. Just my .02

[Brianrietta]

Love Raptors. I particularly like that Rigid and VisionX make kits for easy applications of LED's. Not a fan of the dark. Rigid 40" behind the grill:

Rigid Industries 40" Light Bar Raptor Upper Grill - YouTube

[BrRsn]

Why no jeep srt8?
Aside from the fact that there's a wait-list for them, it is in the same price range and fun as hell to drive

Raptor is a sweet truck though, either way you'll be happy

[tee-tea]

+1 I would kill someone for one

VelociRaptor 600 Twin Turbo - 2010 Ford Raptor 6.2 Truck - YouTube
SDHQ's Twin-Turbo Eco-Raptor - TUNED - YouTube

[gilly]

coworker has one. the truck is massive.

[604STIG]

Those trucks are insane, I'd definitely jump all over one if I ever had a chance.

[slicrick]

Yeah they are. I priced one out and with incentives I'm looking at $61k-66k depending on the options.

Honestly, I'd probably barely use it offroad. I sort of want a badass, and very different DD that stands out. I am also doing some weird cross shopping and I looked at a '13 C63 and a '13 300 SRT8. I wasn't really a fan of the Mercedes though. SO that is probably out. I also like to travel a lot, and this is pretty much nearly invincible in the snow.


they are awesome trucks my neighbour has one it's pretty cool, (I'm not trying to discourage or say anything bad about ford)

this probably wouldn't affect you but he told me something about bent frames being a problem it hasn't affected him SVT boss goes on record about Ford Raptor frame damage claims [w/video] (http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/21/svt-boss-goes-on-record-about-ford-raptor-frame-damage-claims-w/) http://i.imgur.com/gLfYQ.jpg http://www.gotsvt.com/pics/var/resizes/Raptor/Frame/inside_frame_drawing.JPG?m=1308937393

I'm sure it's a lot to do with how you treat/use the truck. After seeing some of the video's I have seen of people "off roading" in them this is stuff that would bend damn near any frame

my neighbour really likes his and it has not given him any problems he doesn't baby it but doesn't use it like some of the people on youtube and stuff if you can afford it and like I would say go for it also they are really cool trucks

[cdizzle_996]

My old man has one. Great truck, but be prepared to spend a small fortune on fuel.

I took it to Kelowna over the holidays, averaged 14mpg driving it normally..

[stewie]

I originally wanted one but ended up with the lariat.

Just didn't seem worth it. Sure it has some awesome bells and whistles, but they'll never be put to use in the bush.
If you want a truck that's probably better, just build up an old pick up, it's cheaper and if your going into the bush to 4x4, you WILL eventually break something.

Easier to buy parts for an old truck than these.


But none the less, it's a fucking sexy beast, if you've got the cash for it, then go for it!

:p just remember, from empty to full, it's aprox 200$ in gas :p
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[VRYALT3R3D]

they are awesome trucks my neighbour has one it's pretty cool, (I'm not trying to discourage or say anything bad about ford)

this probably wouldn't affect you but he told me something about bent frames being a problem it hasn't affected him SVT boss goes on record about Ford Raptor frame damage claims [w/video] (http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/21/svt-boss-goes-on-record-about-ford-raptor-frame-damage-claims-w/) http://i.imgur.com/gLfYQ.jpg http://www.gotsvt.com/pics/var/resizes/Raptor/Frame/inside_frame_drawing.JPG?m=1308937393

I'm sure it's a lot to do with how you treat/use the truck. After seeing some of the video's I have seen of people "off roading" in them this is stuff that would bend damn near any frame

my neighbour really likes his and it has not given him any problems he doesn't baby it but doesn't use it like some of the people on youtube and stuff if you can afford it and like I would say go for it also they are really cool trucks

I know all about that, the owner was an idiot. The other idiots who had their frame bent did either one of these two:
1. Modified stock suspension and went way too fast offroad(Raptors aren't invincible)
2. Towed way beyond its rating. I think the crew cab is rated at 6k#s and someone towed 12000 pounds and wondered why it bent.

[RHMadness]

I looked at a raptor before i bought my ram.. They are nice trucks but not worth the serious coin.. GO with a top of the line RAM 1500.. They are bad ass trucks.. then you can come muddin with us haha

[hkRicer]

When i see a truck pull up all I can think of are rednecks, hillbillies and country music :troll:

60-70k can probably get you a nice used landrover for dd

[some_punk]

When i see a truck pull up all I can think of are rednecks, hillbillies and country music :troll:

60-70k can probably get you a nice used landrover for dd

yes buy a used suv that will have alot more problems than the ford, and cost alot more to repair than the ford.

[VRYALT3R3D]

When i see a truck pull up all I can think of are rednecks, hillbillies and country music :troll:

60-70k can probably get you a nice used landrover for dd

F YH!

I can be like this guy in my later days....

Irate Redneck Goes HAM On Neighbor. - YouTube

Not interested in a Landrover. They are pretty fugly and super unreliable and they have deep depreciation. I want to keep my next DD for at least 8+ years and be able to tow 7000 pounds, possibly.

[MindBomber]

F YH!

I can be like this guy in my later days....

Irate Redneck Goes HAM On Neighbor. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knypc_OjZEw)

Not interested in a Landrover. They are pretty fugly and super unreliable. I want to keep my next DD for at least 8+ years and be able to tow 7000 pounds, possibly.

Raptors don't make the best tow vehicles because of the soft race suspension, you might want to look into that a bit if towing is a consideration.

[VRYALT3R3D]

Raptors don't make the best tow vehicles because of the soft race suspension, you might want to look into that a bit if towing is a consideration.

I did. There are plenty of people who tow with the Super crewcab Raptors and have no issues with it.

http://i44.tinypic.com/nsv8w.jpg
(...lol)

[StylinRed]

expensive for an f150 but mmmmm worth it

[slicrick]

I know all about that, the owner was an idiot. The other idiots who had their frame bent did either one of these two:
1. Modified stock suspension and went way too fast offroad(Raptors aren't invincible)
2. Towed way beyond its rating. I think the crew cab is rated at 6k#s and someone towed 12000 pounds and wondered why it bent.

that's what I thought also, I used to work for GM as a lot boy and heard some pretty crazy stories and claims people did and tried to get warranty from

[Timpo]

Ford Raptor vs Ram Runner! - Head 2 Head Episode 14 - YouTube

[Lomac]

Ram Runner...

:heckno:

That thing is fugly as hell. I love ugly looking trucks, but it has to be something like an old 80's era Toyota pickup for it to have that ugly/beautiful combination to work.

[1990TSI]

I've worked on a few raptors and they are 100% awesome. From a reliability stand point they are great, I haven't had one come in with any problems at all. They seem expensive, yes, but build a loaded f150 and the raptor starts to seem like a good deal. Especially considering the options it comes with stock. Many of the f150s I work on are very similar msrp but not raptor.

[twitchyzero]

Ford Raptor jumps 90 feet! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKQdlXvbWSU)

http://www.autonorth.ca/storage/BuiltFordTough.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1319 632624822:troll::troll:

[predom]

Top gear usa...nuf said
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[Rich Sandor]

Just remember the Raptor is a bit taller than any other F150 and doesn't clear all underground parkades like the other F150s do. It is also a bit wider than the other F150s which are already super wide when parking in side-by-side parking stalls. If you want something different and cool - the Raptor fits the bill. If you want a truck that is slightly more practical and a WAY better deal, get an FX4. Still looks almost as cool as a Raptor - almost as rare - but about $10k cheaper for almost exactly the same truck minus the wider body and suspension. Non-SVT trucks will get lower interest rates and huge discounts off MSRP compared to Raptors.

I've got a 2011 F150 XTR CrewCab 5.0L short box, Black, and I fucking LOVE my truck. It's been great towing the race car, mud crawling, in snow, around town... camping.. I never ever thought I would be bombing around in a pickup.. but the interior space and confidence to go ANYWHERE is great.. plus it's a really good looking truck, everyone always says what a good looking truck it is!

PS make sure you get the CrewCab.. SO much more practical than the stupid superCab.

[604STIG]

I've got a 2011 F150 XTR CrewCab 5.0L short box, Black, and I fucking LOVE my truck. It's been great towing the race car, mud crawling, in snow, around town... camping.. I never ever thought I would be bombing around in a pickup.. but the interior space and confidence to go ANYWHERE is great.. plus it's a really good looking truck, everyone always says what a good looking truck it is!

PS make sure you get the CrewCab.. SO much more practical than the stupid superCab.

+1 I absolutely love my 12 SCREW, the interior space is absolutely ridiculous especially in the rear passenger area. I've got some friends that are in the 6'-3" height range and they have leg room in the back, with room to spare, it's nuts.

[dared3vil0]

Just remember the Raptor is a bit taller than any other F150 and doesn't clear all underground parkades like the other F150s do. It is also a bit wider than the other F150s which are already super wide when parking in side-by-side parking stalls. If you want something different and cool - the Raptor fits the bill. If you want a truck that is slightly more practical and a WAY better deal, get an FX4. Still looks almost as cool as a Raptor - almost as rare - but about $10k cheaper for almost exactly the same truck minus the wider body and suspension. Non-SVT trucks will get lower interest rates and huge discounts off MSRP compared to Raptors.

I've got a 2011 F150 XTR CrewCab 5.0L short box, Black, and I fucking LOVE my truck. It's been great towing the race car, mud crawling, in snow, around town... camping.. I never ever thought I would be bombing around in a pickup.. but the interior space and confidence to go ANYWHERE is great.. plus it's a really good looking truck, everyone always says what a good looking truck it is!

PS make sure you get the CrewCab.. SO much more practical than the stupid superCab.

Oooh, That road looks like fun. Where is it?

[Iceman-19]

Im a huge ford fan, and I wouldn't bother with a Raptor, ever. My buddy keeps telling me to buy one as I am in the market to trade in my old 2011 Ram. SO OLD. I want nothing to do with them. I would rather get the new FX4 with appearance package and eco-boost. The Raptors are essentially useless. They don't even really get many looks since they are a production vehicle. I would rather see a custom lifted truck then a Raptor. They can't tow fuck all, they get AWFUL gas milage, and power wise they aren't very impressive. 411hp form a 6.2L? My Ram is 391 stock out of a 5.7L. With the gearing my truck has, I suspect I am just as quick off the line and in a race with a Raptor. Im either going to get a 2012 Cummins or a 2012/13 FX4 Eco-boost.

[Rich Sandor]

Oooh, That road looks like fun. Where is it?

It's our private off-road training course. That's the V-ditch, looks crazy when you're in the truck, but looks tame when looking at the trucks from outside. We have a few obstacles, like log crossings, hills and berms, and various ditches to practice crossing and getting stuck/unstuck.

[MarkyMark]

90% of the people buying raptors get it for the looks I imagine. You could get an FX 4 but it won't be quite the head turner that the raptor is.

Although some of the allure might wear off when you can't fit into a lot of parking spaces and it's too tall to go into certain undergrounds.

I have a 2010 Tacoma doublecab long bed and I think it's a great size for what I use it for...but I don't tow anything.
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[donjalapeno]

make sure you get it in black :megusta: ... looks so fckin bad ass.

http://www.mycarportal.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/ADV1-and-Wheels-Boutique-Ford-Raptor-02.jpg

[Great68]

When the Raptor came out I thought about trading in the MS3 for one. I think it would be perfect for all the accessible gravel roads the island has. Would make the road out to Bamfield feel like a limousine ride.

But I just can't bring myself to daily drive a truck.

[broken_arrow]

I really want the 800 hp Hennessey VelociRaptor 800 TT! :fullofwin:

[beproud]

I think it's an incredible truck, looks good and provides the performance when needed. But 6.2L V8? I can't imagine the gas bills eh.

[asahai69]

get a ram

[RHMadness]

get a ram


agreed!!!!

[sdubfid]

I'd consider one with the 3.2l power stroke and if the shift knob was the top of the cane from Jurassic park
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[BABU]

http://www.truckcustomizers.com/images/prods/EPC/Pro-Comp-6-inch-Crossmember-and-Knuckle-Lift-Kit-Chevrolet-Silverado-2500HD-and-GMC-Sierra-2500HD-01-large.jpg
http://norcaltruck.com/components/com_ixxocart/images/products/secondary/54.jpg
http://norcaltruck.com/components/com_ixxocart/images/products/secondary/198.jpg

no love for the Sierra/Silverado 2500 duramax ?

[sdubfid]

comparing apples to oranges

you wont be jumping a stock duramax for long and a stock raptor wont be towing 30000lbs for long

[MindBomber]

no love for the Sierra/Silverado 2500 duramax ?

Endless love, but like sdubfid wrote, they're very different trucks.

[VRYALT3R3D]

http://www.truckcustomizers.com/images/prods/EPC/Pro-Comp-6-inch-Crossmember-and-Knuckle-Lift-Kit-Chevrolet-Silverado-2500HD-and-GMC-Sierra-2500HD-01-large.jpg
http://norcaltruck.com/components/com_ixxocart/images/products/secondary/54.jpg
http://norcaltruck.com/components/com_ixxocart/images/products/secondary/198.jpg

no love for the Sierra/Silverado 2500 duramax ?

The Raptor is pretty much the only truck I'd ever own. Besides, it will hold its value higher.

I made up my mind, and Raptor it is. The dealers here tempted me with some really good prices, but its too early to purchase it. I am holding off to the end of the year to get one...:) My DD gets around 18MPG city and drinks Premium fuel, so I am not too worried about the fuel costs. The fun factor and all the features make up for it. Parking it on the other hand......

[Rich Sandor]

If you've never owned a big truck before, the only advice I have is to plan ahead for parking before leaving home. If you have an appointment downtown, plan to be there 10-15min EARLY so you can find an outdoor parking lot, because about 75-90% of empty street parking is too tight for my truck (crew cab short box) and you won't be able to get into many undergounds. Sometimes you luck out though. Don't worry too much about door dings.. most ppl's car doors will hit your running board before they hit your door panel.

[brute_4s]

I love the truck but for that kind of money I'd buy a diesel truck. Way better reliability or even an Eco boost for better fuel economy. But judging by the other cars on ur list fuel economy is not a worry for u so all the power to u. Still a sweet truck.

[Rich Sandor]

I love the truck but for that kind of money I'd buy a diesel truck. Way better reliability or even an Eco boost for better fuel economy. But judging by the other cars on ur list fuel economy is not a worry for u so all the power to u. Still a sweet truck.

Today's diesel truck engines are no more or less reliable than their gas engine counterparts. If anything, I'd argue that my 5.0L gas V8 is MORE reliable than the new ecoboost or even the diesel. It's less complicated, runs cooler, and runs under less compression than the turboed motors. I would comfortably say it's one of the best V8 engines ever made, considering power, economy and reliability.

[brute_4s]

Today's diesel truck engines are no more or less reliable than their gas engine counterparts. If anything, I'd argue that my 5.0L gas V8 is MORE reliable than the new ecoboost or even the diesel. It's less complicated, runs cooler, and runs under less compression than the turboed motors. I would comfortably say it's one of the best V8 engines ever made, considering power, economy and reliability.

i guess i shouldnt have said more reliable as all cars are made to be reliable nowadays and not just toys. what i meant to say is that a diesel's life expectancy is generally longer than the average gas motors. ive seen considerably more diesel engines roll over 400,000 kms than i have gas engines do that unless we're talking toyotas or something.

[Rich Sandor]

They don't have 400,000kms on them JUST because they are reliable. They have that many KMs because they are WORKHORSES and they are driven A LOT. And they are serviced A LOT.

Most gas cars or trucks never even get the chance to make it to 400,000kms because they are traded-in or scrapped or worthless by the time they hit 200,000km.

There are gas and LPG taxis and cop cars and other service vehicles that hit 400,000km on the original engines.. you just never see them because no one wants them when they are 'retired' from service.. hell, my '99 528i has 337,000km on the original engine!! It's not because it's a 'good engine' but because it was driven A LOT and serviced to the tits! But for some reason, people still want those old 7L diesel Fords because mechanics say they are easy to work on.

I'm not trying to shit on diesel engines, they are great, but it bugs me when people say diesel this and diesel that and they don't even really understand the whole picture.

Sorry for Hijacking this thread!!! :angel2:

[donjalapeno]

i guess i shouldnt have said more reliable as all cars are made to be reliable nowadays and not just toys. what i meant to say is that a diesel's life expectancy is generally longer than the average gas motors. ive seen considerably more diesel engines roll over 400,000 kms than i have gas engines do that unless we're talking toyotas or something.

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/35445771.jpg

[RRxtar]

i would actually put a vote to the opposite and say diesels are overall less reliable than gas trucks. the engine itself may last longer, but to get it there is going to cost in the service area.

my f150 with a 4.6L V8 has 360k on it with nothing done to it other that your usual plugs and wires. which is generally rather inexpensive.

on the other hand, any diesel newer than about 02 is considered to be fairly unreliable unless maintenance is followed right to the letter. and that maintenance isnt a $39 oil change. you're talking $150-$200 oil changes, and any repair is going to come in at $500-$2000, and fairly regular. sure there are lots of old 5.9L dodge diesels, and ford 7.3L diesels with 400k on them, but most of them have had service money put into them to keep them going, and the newer the engine generation, the worse they get.

you see more diesels with high K because those trucks are built to last in a work environment. smaller gas trucks fall apart in 15 years and get scrapped.

service cost of ownership per km, gas wins hands down.

[VRYALT3R3D]

If you've never owned a big truck before, the only advice I have is to plan ahead for parking before leaving home. If you have an appointment downtown, plan to be there 10-15min EARLY so you can find an outdoor parking lot, because about 75-90% of empty street parking is too tight for my truck (crew cab short box) and you won't be able to get into many undergounds. Sometimes you luck out though. Don't worry too much about door dings.. most ppl's car doors will hit your running board before they hit your door panel.

Thanks for the tips :)

[penner2k]

F YH!

I can be like this guy in my later days....

Irate Redneck Goes HAM On Neighbor. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knypc_OjZEw)

Not interested in a Landrover. They are pretty fugly and super unreliable and they have deep depreciation. I want to keep my next DD for at least 8+ years and be able to tow 7000 pounds, possibly.

Get a new Dodge then. They have an air suspension which is supposed to make for a really smooth ride and automatically levels the truck when towing. The Laramie is a luxury vehicle inside.

[penner2k]

I've worked on a few raptors and they are 100% awesome. From a reliability stand point they are great, I haven't had one come in with any problems at all. They seem expensive, yes, but build a loaded f150 and the raptor starts to seem like a good deal. Especially considering the options it comes with stock. Many of the f150s I work on are very similar msrp but not raptor.

I think the Raptor should also hold value a bit better. $10k price difference now might work out if you try to sell it in 5 years.

[Hex]

Dunno if OP is still planning on a Raptor, but thought I'd chime in since I own one.

I wouldn't worry about the bent frames.. I'll tell you this, any one of those guys with the bent frames.. earned it. You can't blame stupid on Ford. And hate to say it, but pickup trucks just like performance cars... tend to attract a whole lot of stupid. Anyone who thinks they can do what they see in a commercial, is a moron.. plain and simple.

As far as reliability... We've had several fords.. and have never had any of these over sensationalized issues people like to invent. (Usually people who own or favor another auto maker.. and who do not own the vehicle they are bashing or know ONE guy who experienced it...). All brands are going to suffer issues. Not all vehicles are going to experience them. Especially if you take care of them.

Our Screw Lariat is going on 11-12 years now? No problems beyond regular wear small things.... above average mileage.
That was the 5.4L.. Still looks great, still runs fine, no rust issues.

Have had the Raptor with the 6.2L for 2.5 years now? Have had no problems. Quality of both trucks has been fantastic. Raptor is my daily. I commute... roughly 24,000km per year mixed driving. I have been off road.. The raptors fantastic... Contrary to popular misconceptions this is not simply a "desert Baja truck" it's a truck. With off road capabilities, targeted at people who will mostly use it ON ROAD. It is a very comfortable city/highway commuter. I have friends who drive higher end luxury vehicles who claim it's more comfortable on the road in the Raptor... The seats are amazing, road noise is minimal, and the suspension feels great. The engineers themselves have said time and time again, it is intended for mostly on road driving, with off road capabilities. Off road does not mean desert. Have been out with several other Raptors for some off roading, and a lot of the Raptor guys have been rock crawling, mudding, and they do a massive winter event too. Sure you can find more purpose built vehicles, that are better at specific things, but it is a pretty good all round truck. Winter is cake. I've never had to use 4x4 on the road. And have never lost traction unintentionally. (stock tires) And in fact... I've still got a good amount of tread left on my factory tires.

Insulting the towing capacities is pretty pointless. It is not intended for that. They tow just fine, guys tow their show cars, or their boats or trailers just fine. But if you want a tow/haul truck...That really isn't the raptors intended purpose. For most people it hauls more than enough. Not everyone tows their home.

I also had a car that ran on premium and got 18mpg (13L/100km) - 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS.. And hate to break it to you.. but you are definitely going to feel a hole burning much deeper in your pockets in the Raptor. A lot of guys on the forums get single digit MPG. I am getting 11 mpg (21L/100km) mixed driving now, and that is after breakin improvements. I started out single digit mpg too.

Yearly fuel costs approx. 7.5k A full tank is not 200 bucks.. Closer to 160-170 depending on prices.

Our Lariat is a Supercrew, My Raptor is a Supercab. It is super easy to park the supercab raptor. It's wider, shorter, higher... It honestly is 10x easier to park than my Camaro was.. in spite of it's size. It's easier to park than a supercrew... and easier than a mini van. I would say it's comparable to a lot of average sized cars as far as ease... because you are high up with great visibility and the turning radius is surprisingly good. I do not have a backup camera, or sensors. Never had a problem.

Outdoor parking lots are not really an issue... as someone pointed out, door dings are unlikely. 99% of the time if someones dumb enough to swing their door out, it's going to hit the side step which is not going to be kind to their paint. But I've never had an issue parking in lots, and leaving enough room for people to get out. Center it.. Or take the end spots. I can even fit into "small car" spots. It blows my mind when I see little cars over the lines.. Just shows how careless people are when the Raptor fits just fine. A Raptor will fit in the small car spots just barely.. Tires will be just at the lines on each side. (Fold in ur mirrors). But realistically... Don't park in small car spaces.. Self explanatory.

Street parking is fine... I don't know why anybody would have problems parking on the street. I am downtown during peak hours all the time. No issues.

Parkades are a different story. The Raptor is about 6'8. Some parkades will say 6'9 or whatever, but they have inclines and shit hanging from the ceiling that.... will disagree with the 6'8 height still. I avoid most parkades, but you'll learn which ones you can fit in.. And at least they all have the height posted at the entrance. Anything 6'10 - 7'0 + worry free. Your antenna might take a beating and probably give you a heartattack the first time it goes mental on the ceiling.

Worth noting.... Some outdoor parking lots do have cross beams... that will rip your roof off... For example... Metrotown, going from Chapters towards Sears. That bar right there.. Don't bother. You're not going to see a lot of smiles when you're forcing everyone behind you to back up so you can get back out. And it's extra awful if it's a busy day.. Fun watching 4-5 cars reversing in your rear view.

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A few more thoughts...

- Can't stress enough, make sure you're ready for the gas bill. I thought I was... coming from the 6.2L Camaro which I fueled strictly with 94 octane. getting 13L/100km... It really is the only downside.

-Test drive... before you decide on Supercrew/Scab.. I really dislike the supercrew... It makes a huge difference in handling/turning. The larger fuel tank is great in the Screw though.. The leg room in the back of the Scab is just fine. I've never had anyone complain... Front passengers gotta unbuckle to let rear passengers in though. And floor space is reduced if you get the amp.

-If you get the bed extender... Line-X your bed right away. The extender will strip paint. exposed metal will eventually rust.. etc... Besides, only a matter of time before you slip back there on the bare paint while you wash the roof.

-Raptor's don't like to fit in most home garages.

Raptor does get quite a bit of attention... I get stopped all the time to talk about it.
Often... However, coming from the Camaro to the Raptor, the Male:Female attention ratio definitely swayed more to the Male side in the Raptor.. lol

They are not rare, but they really are not all that common out here. Some days I might run into 3-4 and then not see any for a month straight. And even then its usually the same Raptors I see, in the same areas.

Get ready to deal with lots of douches in Fit's / Yaris / Prius... Seems like a lot of little cars have something to prove. Next in line would be any truck that isn't a Ford.. Stereotypical brand rivalry never fails. Can't tell you how many douchey truck drivers want to try and start a race. Small cars will always try to cut you off... Either A. because they assume you're going to be slow. Or B. because they can't past you from behind. Or C, because you are pretty much Satan for driving a big truck. A lot of sports cars or nicer cars, will not drive nearby... Probably because the Raptor tires throw everything up in the air.

-Invest in mudflaps. The Raptor will not stay clean for 2 minutes without them. Seriously.. rain/dirt/sand/mud/rocks... Watch the rooster tails up both sides of the truck everywhere you go if you don't install flaps.

I love the Raptor, but personally I am probably parting with it in the near future. 7.5K per year on gas is mental.