[striderblade]

Anyone here own one of these? Would like to know how costly are the maintenance fee like service and oil change. Comfortable to drive?

[SpeedStars]

Drove in one before, it feels like a heavy Honda Fit lol. The 08 gen B200 Turbo feels like it could be improved but ride feels quite comfortable...it's a Merc afterall.

[Grim]

dont get it, think about it or even look at it.

my sister had a B200, and holy shit it was crap balls.
after the 3yr lease the car had little over 20,000KM and that piece of crap was breaking apart.
windows don't function 20% of the time.
the steering wheel made HUGE clunking noises while turning, brought it to MB over 4-6 times in the course of the 3 yr lease. MB couldnt fix shit, as well as the window problem.
there were a lot more but i only drove it once in a blue moon.
the plan was to keep the car cz of the low milage as well as the exterior was kept pretty mint.
but yea, even my sister who knows squat balls about cars didn't wanna keep it.

cant say the B250 is worst or better... but just dont.
please dont.
srsly... dont.

[tofu1413]

better off with X1 or a matrix.

[knight604]

Just no.

[!SG]

new plateform, so dont know. doesnt share a thing with the b200. completely new plateform. A class, new B class 246plateform, and coming CLA and GLA (i believe also) all share the new plateform

[Akinari]

New B250 is great to drive and looks awesome too. Miles above the old piece of junk. The CVT was terrible as well.

[asian_XL]

My sis has the new 2013 B200 in Asia...not a bad car, but definity not fun for guys to drive around. It fits for girls a lot more

[!SG]

we only get the b250 here in canada.

car sits a lot lower and looks more sporty than the 245 first gen b200.

the interior is more cleaned up. has a lot of goodies off the higher end benzs.

[ts14]

german :fuckthatshit:

[beproud]

I would not do it eh. So many better cars out there.
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[ilvtofu]

New B250 is great to drive and looks awesome too. Miles above the old piece of junk. The CVT was terrible as well.

Agreed that CVT was so noisy lol, the new car has a double clutch should be a lot better.
Overall its well priced but mercedes IMO is the most unreliable of the german brands and has by far the shittiest service departments (vancouver/richmond)

[vantrip]

Yeah the B-class seems quite weird, you can have all the cargo space in a fit or something cheaper.

[yray]

Are you talking the about new B class or the old one?

New one has 7 speed DCT, should be much better than the old one. But after all, its a german :troll:; if you need to claim warranty, blow things out of proportion or else it will never get done.

[striderblade]

I'm talking about the new 2013 models. If you guy have a choice for a car that is around 29,000 dollars what are your options? Don't have to be bsporty. But still prefer nice and comfy interior. And thanks for all your input guys much appreciated.
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[tofu1413]

13 accord
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[VRYALT3R3D]

Bland, ugly and boring to drive.

[VRYALT3R3D]

I'm talking about the new 2013 models. If you guy have a choice for a car that is around 29,000 dollars what are your options? Don't have to be bsporty. But still prefer nice and comfy interior. And thanks for all your input guys much appreciated.
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2013 Chevrolet Camaro LS
2014 Ford Mustang V6 (300HP and 30MPG+) you can order it with factory Recaros which are super comfy.

[sexyaccord]

why not wait for the CLA ?
wouldn't be that much higher than the B class.

SG! do you have a ball park figure of the starting CAD price for the CLA?

[trix4kids]

BRZ/FRS

[Akinari]

I'm talking about the new 2013 models. If you guy have a choice for a car that is around 29,000 dollars what are your options? Don't have to be bsporty. But still prefer nice and comfy interior. And thanks for all your input guys much appreciated.
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As tofu mentioned above, 2013 Honda Accord Sport with a 6spd stick would fit your needs perfectly.

[yray]

I'm talking about the new 2013 models. If you guy have a choice for a car that is around 29,000 dollars what are your options? Don't have to be bsporty. But still prefer nice and comfy interior. And thanks for all your input guys much appreciated.
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lease, don't buy LOL

400$ with 0 down... it's not bad but you can lease an accord too :fullofwin:

[PJ]

Can't speak for the B250, but my friend had the B200, and like others said, it was pretty bad. Nothing but trouble.

In regards to hatchbacks, I'd easily take a Fit, Prius C, Matrix, Mazda3... or almost anything over the Merc. Or if you must be fancy, there's the new(ish) Lexus CT thats 31k or so.

[tofu1413]

LOL i like how people are suggesting B250 to camaro mustang brz/frs. Just like another thread a guy is asking for a full size sedan and they suggest STi or evo. :rukidding:

I know this is a car forum and all, OP is looking to LEASE or FINANCE a economical hatchback.

rates would be different is one thing and completely different cars are being compared.



what would i suggest OP for 30 grand if i was ignorant? a tidy, used E39 M5.

[VRYALT3R3D]

How about the Focus ST? Stylish and cool

Focus ST TV Commercial - YouTube

Brand new and in your price range.

[Shorn]

I think you should take a look at the golf tdi.
They start around $25k I believe and interior is decent. Plus you weren't gonna win any races in the B class anyway so at least save some gas with the diesel. Also it's still german if that's your thing.

[ilvtofu]

LOL i like how people are suggesting B250 to camaro mustang brz/frs. Just like another thread a guy is asking for a full size sedan and they suggest STi or evo. :rukidding:

I know this is a car forum and all, OP is looking to LEASE or FINANCE a economical hatchback.

rates would be different is one thing and completely different cars are being compared.



what would i suggest OP for 30 grand if i was ignorant? a tidy, used E39 M5.

classic car forum advice lol, that and 99% of the posts are bashing the old car, wouldn't doubt some similarities but come on...

[BEEB]

don't be afriad to own a Benz, if you can do oil change yourself, you can save a lot already. Throughout the 7 years of owning a C230 1.8L supercharged Benz, zero mechanical problem. Did all my own oil change after the first 4 years after warranty expired. Mercedes are solid cars when you don't drive the sh!t out of it. You can take my words for it and this is coming from a real owner.

[SpeedStars]

^if religiously maintained that is... My dad's 06 mercs R350 has had its fair share of problems. During the winter of 08, much of the wood accents around the doors cracked, the suspension had major problems, and halo bulbs would not last longer than 3 mounths. In 2011 and 2012 the trunk hydraulics failed, tranny started to slip, and panoramic roof was stuck. By now, it has amassed more than 10K in maintenance, all being serviced by Mercedes Benz. Though I might add, the first gen R-Class was problematic and older mercs classes such as the C class, S class, or E class might fair better..
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[SoNaRWaVe]

although i don't have an experiences with b250, here are my 2 cents regards to b200. it is a steaming pile of crap. it was nothing but trouble for my in laws. the window motor broke so they went to fix it through the warranty. less than a day, it broke again, and apparently it was a faulty wire. fixed it again. shortly after, it got busted again and they returned the car. this was all after they had to bring it in for a service. it was called Service Package A. it cost $500 + tax.

[ilvtofu]

^if religiously maintained that is... My dad's 06 mercs R350 has had its fair share of problems. During the winter of 08, much of the wood accents around the doors cracked, the suspension had major problems, and halo bulbs would not last longer than 3 mounths. In 2011 and 2012 the trunk hydraulics failed, tranny started to slip, and panoramic roof was stuck. By now, it has amassed more than 10K in maintenance, all being serviced by Mercedes Benz. Though I might add, the first gen R-Class was problematic and older mercs classes such as the C class, S class, or E class might fair better..
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There are some things that aren't excusable simply due to poor maintenance, my mom's w203 was dealer serviced for everything and followed the maintenance schedule religiously, but shit like spark plug wires within the first year of ownership is unacceptable, the spring that holds the trunk up should not go at <50,000 km or ever really :/ having to change your lightbulbs biannually is not an uncommon occurrence with mercedes either. sunroofs and airmatic suspension should be avoided with a 10 foot pole

[Hakkaboy]

I usually don't put as much stock in listening to other people when it comes to how cars drive, since everyone will have different preferences and i always want to drive it for myself first.

anyways, my gf was given a B200 as a courtesy car and as soon as she came home told me the car was a piece of crap. She's not a "car person" so I didn't believe her, but I drove it yesterday. YEP, the car is a POS.

I'm not sure how many B200s they sold, but reading from everyone else's posts about the B200 and my own driving experience with it, I have no idea how they sold more than 3 or 4 before people will notice how crappy it is. My old 88 Civic drives better than it. Everything from the seating position, mirrors, head rests and the uninspiring ride was wrong in the B200. Can't speak about maintenance issues, but it doesn't seem all that positive from this thread.

I know it's not the B250, but you have to wonder about how the B200 was allowed to be sold in the first place.

[bing]

I usually don't put as much stock in listening to other people when it comes to how cars drive, since everyone will have different preferences and i always want to drive it for myself first.

anyways, my gf was given a B200 as a courtesy car and as soon as she came home told me the car was a piece of crap. She's not a "car person" so I didn't believe her, but I drove it yesterday. YEP, the car is a POS.

I'm not sure how many B200s they sold, but reading from everyone else's posts about the B200 and my own driving experience with it, I have no idea how they sold more than 3 or 4 before people will notice how crappy it is. My old 88 Civic drives better than it. Everything from the seating position, mirrors, head rests and the uninspiring ride was wrong in the B200. Can't speak about maintenance issues, but it doesn't seem all that positive from this thread.

I know it's not the B250, but you have to wonder about how the B200 was allowed to be sold in the first place.

Because it has a Mercedes logo.

[dared3vil0]

B-class? :lawl:

[a00755836]

why not a subaru impreza wrx? has awd. and lots of cargo room for hatchback. and FAST

[Iron Chef]

I have driven the new B250 quite extensively and it is a night and day difference from the old B200. The driving dynamics are nothing like the old 245 chassis.

The B200 was built and designed in the daimler-benz era so they didn't age or drive very well, but not much they made in the time did either. The cvt trans was horrible but i don't think i drove any cvt that did drive nice. It not like it was unreliable it just didn't drive nice. It has a high center of gravity and couldn't put the power down very well especially if you had a turbo. The B200 turbo with 6sp actually pretty fast and drove and handled alot better

The B250 is all new, 2L turbo 200hp 260lb/tq 7sp DCT and gets 10l/100km with stop/start technology. The engines for fat midrange torque, the 7spd DCT shifts really fast and rev matches on the downshift. Suspension has been greatly improved compared to the previous generation. I think its a pretty good value when you consider the old non turbo B200 cost $29, turbo B200 $33 where as now you get the turbo 7sp DCT for under $30k.

I think the direct comparative is the 4dr GTI. They both 4dr hatchbacks, both start at $29k, both have 200hp but B250s got 50ft/lb more torque, both have dual clutch tranny but B250 has 7spd. I think cost of ownership would be more or less the same.

I would argue that the B250 is the fastest in this segment except for mazda speed 3.

[observer]

I agree the B250 is very different from the old one and is not a bad choice.

The Golf is about to be replaced by a new model next year.