[Acura604]

i can only imagine the anger when this actually happens to someone...cell/smart phones are like an extension of our frickin lives nowadays.




Police are seeking the power to seize mobile phones from distracted drivers and keep them for 24 hours, according to a report by 24 Hours.

The B.C. Chiefs of Police Association reportedly passed a motion Thursday to request changes to provincial laws.

"That means, on the roadside, we drop your phone into a seizure bag then you can show up at the police station 24 hours later to pick it up," Victoria police chief Jamie Graham told 24 Hours.

Police also want to be able to seize the user's vehicle, says the report.

Justice minister Shirley Bond is reported as saying she would be willing to discuss the matter with police chiefs.

The chiefs are also considering making a formal request to have the penalty for distracted driving increased from the current $167, according to the report.

Driving while using a handheld device was made illegal in B.C. in 2010.

© Copyright (c) The Province


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[gdoh]

do it, some people need to learn the hard way. I never used to be that bothered by people on their phones until I started riding.

[Volvo-brickster]

They should seize the dogs that drivers let climb all over them first.

[heleu]

"That means, on the roadside, we drop your phone into a seizure bag then you can show up at the police station 24 hours later to pick it up," Victoria police chief Jamie Graham told 24 Hours.

Police also want to be able to seize the user's vehicle, says the report.

[/url]

Seizing the phone, I get. Seizing the car is a little extreme.

[freakshow]

Seize my phone?? lol.. good luck.

When I get a speeding ticket, maybe they should seize my right foot also?

[dlo]

Wtf? A hefty fine is more than enough.... A cell phone is an essential part of ur day and I can understand the danger of distracted driving (did a case study for ICBC) but seizing it for a day? There can be so many issues with that...
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[TjAlmeida]

Time to keep a spare cell in the glove box.
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[Eff-1]

Shirley Bond will no longer be in government most likely a month from now. Not to worry.

[snails]

Time to keep a spare cell in the glove box.
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actually used to have a spare iphone i left in my car incase something happened to the current one i could just switch sims, not a bad idea... mind you not touching your phone while driving is probably a better idea lol :badpokerface:

[SB7]

I don't agree with the seizures because it will probably lead to a shitstorm Of other problems culminating in breaches of privacy and more. What's to stop an officer to casually browsing through your photos and messages/email if you happened to leave your phone unlocked or don't have a password.

In my opinion they should increase the fine if the driver is blatantly on their phone or texting but you should still have access to your phone on the road for emergency purposes or when your stopped at a red light/traffic jam within reasonable cause. Not everyone has a dashcam and being able to quickly snap pictures/videos on the road can still be pretty useful. Funny thing is I've seen cops on their phone during a red light and wondered what would happen if I whipped out my phone to take a picture. Would they be able to exercise this new law and confiscate my phone for 24 hours and *poof* those pictures magically disappear. Brb putting passcodes on everything.
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[BrRsn]

set up your phone to record/audio video
listen in on cop banter
send to CTV/news outlets

Hilarity will ensue?

[Tim Budong]

A hefty fine means people will pay, confiscating someone's cell is too far

increase the fine with maybe 4pts and risk a license suspension is overkill, but if thats what it takes...then thats too bad for people that break the rule

This is an instance in which we know about it, and we continue to do so. No one to blame at times but ourselves.

[snails]

emergency vehicle drivers are allowed to use there devices and drive, i remember when the law first passed that it was one of the rights of emergency responders, you can use your phone in the cas e of an emergency though

[dared3vil0]

Yeah... Sorry but no. We have a charter of rights and freedoms to protect against this exact kind of thing. Illegal seizure without a warrant.

[nma]

sounds like highschool, get your phone taken away if teacher sees you texting.. lol

[Dragon-88]

I say charge more to repeat offenders, and if they still offend, then apply a suspension to their license, or even impound their car.

Then they cant complain they need to drive to work, as you can take a bus or taxi. If your job consists of driving well then you should've had a headset like most transport drivers do.

For them to take you phone, I think that's taking it a little to far.

Do cops themselves use BT headsets? If not why wouldn't they make it mandatory? I mean even most courier drivers use a headset.

[melloman]

I'm going to be blunt..

Police need to learn to FUCK OFF.

Personal privacy is PERSONAL PRIVACY. You can't just go around and do whatever the fuck you want.

Increasing fines is one thing. Taking someones property is another. I'd rather SMASH my phone infront of the officer before I give it to him for 24 hours.

[T4RAWR]

Yeah... Sorry but no. We have a charter of rights and freedoms to protect against this exact kind of thing. Illegal seizure without a warrant.

I'm going to be blunt..

Police need to learn to FUCK OFF.

Personal privacy is PERSONAL PRIVACY. You can't just go around and do whatever the fuck you want.

Increasing fines is one thing. Taking someones property is another. I'd rather SMASH my phone infront of the officer before I give it to him for 24 hours.


i'm sorry but...

police can make seizures in order to prevent continuation of the offence...... without a warrant...... :pokerface:



are we still friends? :tears:

[GLOW]

since they're trying to be creative...leave the phone, take the SIM card :troll:

increasing it is an easier option IMO

[The_AK]

At this rate we should need more electric chair, but not to kill a person, only fry them a little to teach them a lesson. Nom saiyan?

[vafanculo]

I bet there will be "seizure" fee involved too Lol.

I just don't like the power cops have. What if they catch you with your head down and it looks like you are texting? Then you lose your phone. Same can be said about speeding over 40. At least with speeding they have some sort of proof.
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[FerrariEnzo]

maybe they should work on getting the speeding mainlanders in their expensive cars first... lol they get caught, pay fine, get car and do it again!

[donjalapeno]

I have nothing against cops, all the cops ive ever met were really chill.

But damn taking my phone, wtf. Teachers couldnt take it away from me in highschool, Cops cant take it away from me when im a grown ass man!

[noventa]

that bullshit! gun's don't kill people, people kill people. Cellphones helps say lives. Like the time somebody asked me to help them call the cops because they were getting raped but I had to tell them to hold out for another 24hrs because my phone had been confiscated.

[Matlock]

Sounds OK to me if they actually did the crime, but if they are wrongly accused then WTF? I'd be livid.

One thing about giving people a fine is that many people can afford to pay money, but most people can't afford to give up the time to go out and get their phone. Taking away a cell phone could be a greater deterrent to many people who text/talk while using a cell phone with their hands on it.

[twitchyzero]

yeahhh no.
a phone is vital for emergencies.

[604STIG]

I could see lots of scenarios (as extreme as some may be) where lawsuits will come into play if phones are seized. Everything from business people claiming all the business they lost due to customers/clients unable to contact to schools calling emergency contact and no response. Just a few examples off the top of my head.

[tarobbt]

When pulled over throw it in your gloves box and lock it.

Remember cops can't search your vehicle :fullofwin:

[bloodmack]

yeah if they take my phone im taking my sim card, sd card and battery out. But first they'd have to pry it from my hands.

[Manic!]

Whats next? Taking away a persons wheel chair because he illegally crossed the street?

[FerrariEnzo]

When pulled over throw it in your gloves box and lock it.

Remember cops can't search your vehicle :fullofwin:
and what makes you think they cant?

[snails]

and what makes you think they cant?


without consent police need warrants if they do not have probable cause

[Great68]

Man, the Liberals sure used their 3rd term in power to declare war against motorists.

How about you assholes get at fixing the stuff that's REALLY wrong in the province mmmmkay?

I. Can't. Fucking. Wait. Until May.

[SpeedStars]

Fine for me. But i guess they might need to think about those that use their cell phones to conduct business...It would suck for someone to lose out on a 25K deal just because their cell was seized.

[beproud]

lucky I carry two phones eh lol. But I don't see myself getting my phone seized anytime soon, texting/talking while driving is a no no=P

[falcon]

I can't belive the amount of people here that think its' OK for the govnt. to TAKE your phone away for 24hours? Without sounding like a broken record and a bit cliche, this is not Germany in the 40's. We live in a free country. Sure it's against the law to use a phone while driving. So maybe do a bit more enforcement and make the fine higher. Every police officer I know (and I know quite a few) say the traffic enforcement has dropped to the floor in the last few years due to under staffing and way more important things to attend to like domestics, robbery etc. I remember I used to see 5-10 cop cars a day on the roads. Now I see maybe 2 if I'm luck.

LA has had a no phone rule for a while and nearly everyone follows it there, why? Because there is actual enforcement and larger fines. Heck, I remember having a cop car pull next to me one day and the car infront of him was on his phone and he didn't even notice (or didn't care because he had more important things to do?)

[vitaminG]

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[adambomb]

They can't even prove the effectiveness of existing distracted driving laws and they already want to introduce more invasive laws.
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:werd: /thread.

[Soundy]

Wtf? A hefty fine is more than enough....
Apparently it isn't, since so many people are still doing it... and still complaining about it when they get caught.

There's a really simple solution to make sure you don't get a ticket, and potentially don't get your phone seized:

DON'T FUCKING PHONE/TEXT AND DRIVE.

Problem solved.

[Soundy]

Man, the Liberals sure used their 3rd term in power to declare war against motorists.
I must have missed where this initiative had anything to do with the Liberals. It's a motion put forward by the Union of Police Chiefs.

I. Can't. Fucking. Wait. Until May.
I fear for the future of the province. Un/mis-informed emotional votes like this have fucked us over enough already. :seriously:

[Soundy]

Fine for me. But i guess they might need to think about those that use their cell phones to conduct business...It would suck for someone to lose out on a 25K deal just because their cell was seized.

It's pretty easy to avoid that possibility:

DON'T FUCKING PHONE/TEXT WHILE YOU'RE DRIVING.

Pretty simple solution, no?

[Soundy]

yeahhh no.
a phone is vital for emergencies.

Yeah, that's why everyone in the fucking world made do without them for thousands of years :seriously: When's the last time you actually dialled 911 on your cell phone?

[Great68]

I must have missed where this initiative had anything to do with the Liberals. It's a motion put forward by the Union of Police Chiefs.


I must have missed where I was speaking about this initiative specifically?

My point was valid, the Liberals introduced the original electronic devices law, mandatory impoundments, civil forfeitures and fucking gasoline "carbon" taxes. All in this third term in power.



I fear for the future of the province. Un/mis-informed emotional votes like this have fucked us over enough already. :seriously:

I fear for the future of this province with authoritarian pigfuckers like you who selfishly only think about the economy when they cast their vote.

[Splinter]

Here's an idea: Don't talk on your cell while you're driving and you won't have to worry about it being seized

police are in favour of any law that gives them more power.

They can't even prove the effectiveness of existing distracted driving laws and they already want to introduce more invasive laws.
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I don't need any proof. Almost every time I'm stuck behind someone failing to make a turn, or who can't get out of a parking space, or nearly hits me, they're on a damn cellphone.

Fine for me. But i guess they might need to think about those that use their cell phones to conduct business...It would suck for someone to lose out on a 25K deal just because their cell was seized.

It would suck for someone to lose a child or a parent because someone was too concerned about some stupid business deal to concentrate on driving.

[Gridlock]

Rage Against The Machine - Killing In The Name - YouTube

[T4RAWR]

:facepalm:

[dared3vil0]

:facepalm:

:lawl:

[RRxtar]

This is starting to get out of hand. First with the road side impoundment and suspension that used to require a review, now cops want the ability to seize cellphones? Whats next?

There used to be a legal process for this kind of thing and alot of the powers police now have at roadside are things that probably needed a criminal code conviction in the past. the power given in the MVA seems to be far surpassing the criminal code. Cops should not be given that authority simply based on their opinion without PROOF shown in front of a judge. It is all their word against yours which is pointless anyway because by the time you have a chance to fight it, its already over. It is you, standing there at that moment, with ZERO power against another person given all of the authority.

It was one thing with the increase in fines, I can buy that, as its fairly obvious fines are being used as a massive revenue stream. But seizures don't benefit the police or the province, they simply just fuck people over.

What if a cop came to your door with no warrant and seized your computer on the spot for suspected computer piracy because his UNPROVEN opinion is that you may have downloaded something. Not because an overseeing authority gave the go ahead, simply because he felt like being a dick that day.


I have nothing against cops individually. I haven't ever had a bad experience with one, and I know a few amazing people who are cops. But the law is giving them as a whole too much power.

[twitchyzero]

Yeah, that's why everyone in the fucking world made do without them for thousands of years :seriously: When's the last time you actually dialled 911 on your cell phone?

so you never ever had a serious and urgent call where your family was trying to get a hold of you? It's the 21st century where having a phone is a piece of mind.

also, a phone is just as important as having my license in case my car ever breaks down/get into accident...not to mention how handy the camera on your phone becomes to take photos of the accident.

[xilley]

lol, Police seeking POWER

man, dont these cops got better SHIT to do?!

[RRxtar]

Being vital for emergencies is a bit of a bad argument.

A better argument would be that a cellphone is hardly a cellphone anymore, and it is now a personal device that does way more than talk and text. Hell, I run my business from my phone.

[vitaminG]

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[THORISHERE]

I loathe people who talk and drive (I was once sandwiched between a SUV and a Civic because the Civic driver prioritized talking on his phone over paying attention to his driving) but I am definitely not in favour of giving Big Brother more arbitrary power over us.

[dared3vil0]

It's like when they first started seizing vehicles for going 40 over, Everyone was in an uproar and then it became "normal". What's next is what we need to be worried about.

[Splinter]

WHY THE FUCK NOT?

Drivers on Cell Phones Are as Bad as Drunks - University of Utah News Release: June 29th, 2006 (http://www.unews.utah.edu/old/p/062206-1.html)
ScienceDirect.com - Accident Analysis & Prevention - Wireless telephones and the risk of road crashes (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000145750200043X)
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/facts-research/media/webinar-09-06-03-transcript.pdf
404 - Image Not Found (http://www.ama.ab.ca/images/images_pdf/FinalReport_CellPhones4.pdf)

[JesseBlue]

first world problems here....and a lot of guilty parties...lol

[Grim]

can i just state something.

I eat my mcd meals on the go everytime i go out to a job site etc.
I eat with one hand, drive with another while chatting up with my passenger.
Im constantly digging for fries, shoving that burger IN MY FUCKING FACE.
AND to top it off, chat and smoke n drink w.e while drive.

thats ok.


im on the PHONE 1 hand driving the other hold it towards me with speakers on.
that is NOT OK

dafaq?


ps: nasty fart girls putting on make up at red light/driving.
is OKAY.................. srsly?

[A-Dev]

I am not in favour of anyone seizing a personal or business phone. Here is my thing, what does a phone have to do with the motor vehicle act?

You want to talk on your phone and drive, no problem. how about a 24 hr license suspension. The next day you can talk/browse on your phone from the bus or taxi on your way to work.

24 hrs without a phone that can be used to communicate/do business can actually be very costly. I know a few people that without a cell phone they would not be able to work at all.
24 hrs without a license on the other hand. There are other ways to acquire transportation.

[FerrariEnzo]

Fine for me. But i guess they might need to think about those that use their cell phones to conduct business...It would suck for someone to lose out on a 25K deal just because their cell was seized.
thats what bluetooth head is used for.. if you gotta email or whatever to make the deal, how are you going to do it properly while driving to begin with.. either pull over or call them back later...

[Splinter]

thats ok.


just because there isn't a specific law against it doesn't make it ok

that's why we have things like 'Driving without due care and attention'

[RRxtar]

So when did driving without due care become insufficient for cellphones?

[vantrip]

There's gotta be better use of police resources then to confiscate people's phones :suspicious:

[tarobbt]

I am not in favour of anyone seizing a personal or business phone. Here is my thing, what does a phone have to do with the motor vehicle act?

You want to talk on your phone and drive, no problem. how about a 24 hr license suspension. The next day you can talk/browse on your phone from the bus or taxi on your way to work.

24 hrs without a phone that can be used to communicate/do business can actually be very costly. I know a few people that without a cell phone they would not be able to work at all.
24 hrs without a license on the other hand. There are other ways to acquire transportation.

Exactly! Someone with brains wow.

Take away their license but I still fail to see how intruding on someones right to have a phone have anything to do with the MVA.

Anyone else notice how cops love to use the excuse that they have 'special training' to be able to use electronics while they are driving? Why isn't this 'training' readily available to the general public? If driving with your cellphone impairs your brain just like alcohol that means that cops also have 'training' to feel no effects of alcohol? :fulloffuck::seriously:

[Happy]

my favourite post about this topic on news 1130

"would this apply to police officers driving while reading a computer screen? No, because they are exempt – but are they distracted? No, Police say because they have special training. So – this training should be available (I didn’t say free) for everybody. Serious, advanced training to operate a motor vehicle with retesting"

seriously though, if they do this it should be mandatory for cops to use bluetooths. For every 3 or 4 people I see using a cellphone, I always see one cop talking on his phone driving (even swerving while doing so)

[ancient_510]

I could see lots of scenarios (as extreme as some may be) where lawsuits will come into play if phones are seized. Everything from business people claiming all the business they lost due to customers/clients

Exactly. If somebody is a sole proprietor, the police may have just shut down their business for 24 hours.

[JesseBlue]

Easy answer to that is to either:

1) not use cell phones as per the law
2) not get caught..
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[AW607]

my favourite post about this topic on news 1130

"would this apply to police officers driving while reading a computer screen? No, because they are exempt – but are they distracted? No, Police say because they have special training. So – this training should be available (I didn’t say free) for everybody. Serious, advanced training to operate a motor vehicle with retesting"

seriously though, if they do this it should be mandatory for cops to use bluetooths. For every 3 or 4 people I see using a cellphone, I always see one cop talking on his phone driving (even swerving while doing so)

This.

Several times I have seen cops on the road while talking on the phone or using their laptops. I've even seen a cop in traffic talking on the phone while pulling somebody over (who was also on the phone) :suspicious:

[RRxtar]

This.

Several times I have seen cops on the road while talking on the phone or using their laptops. I've even seen a cop in traffic talking on the phone while pulling somebody over (who was also on the phone) :suspicious:
Lol. I have my phone number on the side of my truck and sometimes I wonder if it is a cop calling me to see if I check my phone when it rings.

[Splinter]

So should we not impound the cars of people who drink and drive because they need them to get to work?

Maybe we shouldn't imprison murderers because they have a family to support?


When you commit a crime you chose to accept the risk of punishment. Don't like the punishment? Don't do the crime.

[Manic!]

So should we not impound the cars of people who drink and drive because they need them to get to work?

Maybe we shouldn't imprison murderers because they have a family to support?


When you commit a crime you chose to accept the risk of punishment. Don't like the punishment? Don't do the crime.

If you get caught drinking and driving you are banned from driving. So they take away your car. You get caught using a phone well driving you are not banned from using any phone anywhere for 24 hours.

[Drow]

Drivers on Cell Phones Are as Bad as Drunks - University of Utah News Release: June 29th, 2006 (http://www.unews.utah.edu/old/p/062206-1.html)
ScienceDirect.com - Accident Analysis & Prevention - Wireless telephones and the risk of road crashes (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000145750200043X)
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/facts-research/media/webinar-09-06-03-transcript.pdf
404 - Image Not Found (http://www.ama.ab.ca/images/images_pdf/FinalReport_CellPhones4.pdf)

:gtfo:

[Geoc]

Paint a bar of soap black to look like a cellphone, and when the cops pull you over to confiscate it, you just hand them over saying "I didn't know about the soap driving laws" :troll:

[tarobbt]

So should we not impound the cars of people who drink and drive because they need them to get to work?

Maybe we shouldn't imprison murderers because they have a family to support?


When you commit a crime you chose to accept the risk of punishment. Don't like the punishment? Don't do the crime.

Huge apples to oranges comparison.

The thing is they CANNOT prove you were on your phone while driving unlike alcohol.

What are they going to do? Carry cameras with them and snap a picture? Pay a fine to release your cellphone back to you?

You can't have two sets of laws for two different scenarios. Alcohol applies to both parties while cellphone use does not.

[bing]

just because there isn't a specific law against it doesn't make it ok

that's why we have things like 'Driving without due care and attention'

And you could say the opposite too about certain laws in general. Just because we have a law doesn't mean their always 'right' or appropriate. For example, in the Morgentaler case nobody on the jury would convict the abortion doctor even though they knew he was guilty. Response? Parliament forced to change law or continue making an ass of themselves.

So should we not impound the cars of people who drink and drive because they need them to get to work?

Maybe we shouldn't imprison murderers because they have a family to support?

When you commit a crime you chose to accept the risk of punishment. Don't like the punishment? Don't do the crime.

You cite examples that aren't even comparable. Cell phone usage is on the same level as drinking and driving and murder now? too bad you forget that punishment has to be proportionate to the crime. We live in a "democracy", there are considerations for things such as undue hardship. Don't be so simple minded.

[Splinter]

:gtfo:

Yea, why would we want facts and proof in this thread :suspicious:

You cite examples that aren't even comparable. Cell phone usage is on the same level as drinking and driving and murder now? too bad you forget that punishment has to be proportionate to the crime. We live in a "democracy", there are considerations for things such as undue hardship. Don't be so simple minded.

As bad as murder, obviously not. As bad as drinking and driving? Yep. I'd say so. That's what the studies say.

And yea, they punishment is proportionate. They're not giving you 20 years in jail or cutting off your hand, they're taking away an item used to commit a crime for 24 hours.

If you get caught drinking and driving you are banned from driving. So they take away your car. You get caught using a phone well driving you are not banned from using any phone anywhere for 24 hours.

So would you be happier if you got a 24 hour driving suspension for talking on your cellphone? I'd be ok with that.

[extracrunchie]

There's gotta be better use of police resources then to confiscate people's phones :suspicious:

Why seize their phone?

If they catch them texting and driving, just suspend their drivers license for a day. Thats more effective in my opinion.

[Matsuda]

this is what happened to me when I was rear ended by a texter =(

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/31098_423367536211_6847980_n.jpg

[Eff-1]

wow that's quite a hit. are you ok? I was hit in similar circumstances and the whiplash was brutal.

[Graeme S]

That's quite a bit of damage, especially for a Volvo. Ouch.

[Drow]

Yea, why would we want facts and proof in this thread :suspicious:


your facts / proofs can go to hell :gtfo:

[Matsuda]

wow that's quite a hit. are you ok? I was hit in similar circumstances and the whiplash was brutal.

that was about 3 years ago, had to do physio for a few months.

[adambomb]

Crisis Averted!! :argue:


The province isn’t supporting the controversial idea from The BC Chiefs of Police Association to seize phones of people who get caught using them while behind the wheel.

BC’s Justice Minister Shirley Bond doesn’t think that’s a good solution for now. “I’m certainly not considering the seizure of cell phones. I am concerned though that we continue to see distracted driving as a major issue in our province. It’s not unlike seatbelts, it took a long time for people in our province to make that a normal habit.”


Province shoots down taking phones from distracted drivers | News1130 (http://www.news1130.com/2013/03/11/province-shoots-down-taking-phones-from-distracted-drivers/)

[BaoTurbo]

That's good to hear :)

[vafanculo]

I think the best way to handle people texting and driving is to keep things the way they are, but allow device handling when at a red light.
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[Klobbersaurus]

I think the best way to handle people texting and driving is to keep things the way they are, but allow device handling when at a red light.
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then you will have people that dont go on when the changes from red to green cuz they are too busy texting,

what they should do is have an increasing fine and points, fine goes up everytime you get busted

[mac25]

well we are all car enthusiasts here and i'd like to think we are all decent drivers. but you have to remember some people can hardly handle a car while just driving and some of these people also try to text or check facebook or tweet while driving.

i can understand using the phone as a phone while driving, that's just like talking to a buddy in the car, but anything that draws your eyes off the road continuously is risky.

they could make it a second offense penalty.

[Matlock]

Hit by a texter? I don't know if I would be able to not kill the moron.

I yell at people if I see them texting or talking on the phone while driving.

[Jegz]

I sometimes eat holding a plate with my left hand and a fork in the other hand, text in between and drive with my knee. Still drive better than half of richmond. Police should ban c lais

[Graeme S]

ITT: Confess to terrible driving habits that haven't gotten you killed.


Yet.

[albertcua]

I think the police just have no consistency. Some police catch people using their phones and driving religiously, while others tend to disregard them and that's what makes people mad and feel like they can get away with it.

You'll be driving on the highway or something, and see a guy having a very long phone call, or typing a long text when he almost merges into your lane by accident; you'll be peeved that he's using his phone, and then a police will pull you over for speeding 5km/hr over the speed limit.

At least for me, that's what pisses me off the most about the stupid rules and the bad apples in the police force. Most of the rules that they make have a legitimate reason as to why they impose it, but how they inconsistently enforce these rules is what presses my buttons.

They also have to realize, that you can't really "enforce" all things that distract drivers, and that's probably why they have targeted cell phones. Imagine if they tried targeting things like eating, or drinking, or picking up a baby bottle that your baby threw, or adjusting the radio. These all cause accidents, just as much as talking on your cellphone. Bluetooths don't really help either, because at the end of the day it's about being distracted, and having a conversation while driving for some, is an extremely difficult task.

[Splinter]

And what a lot of people don't understand is that having a conversation with a passenger is NOT the same as having a conversation with a person on a cellphone. A passenger can see hazardous situations and break off the conversation accordingly, or even alert the driver to something they haven't noticed

A person on a bluetooth will just keep jabbering away til you tell them to shut up.

[twitchyzero]

And what a lot of people don't understand is that having a conversation with a passenger is NOT the same as having a conversation with a person on a cellphone. A passenger can see hazardous situations and break off the conversation accordingly, or even alert the driver to something they haven't noticed

A person on a bluetooth will just keep jabbering away til you tell them to shut up.

I dont know what it is...it's like people talking on their phone get so caught up in their convo they kinda forget their surroundings...ie driving below speed limit...not shoulder checking etc

whereas that doesn't really seem to happen if you are carrying a conversation with someone in the passenger seats.

[Klobbersaurus]

what bc police should have is a snitch website, send the picture of the offenders licence plate with a picture of them on the phone and ticket the registered owner like they do with the red light cameras, if the RO doesnt want to pay, then they will have to snitch on the real culprit

with dash cams gaining in popularity, we should be able to submit videos of people running red lights or performing u-turns if you can catch them in the act, get a clear licence plate and have the RO get a ticket for whatever was done

[Splinter]

what bc police should have is a snitch website, send the picture of the offenders licence plate with a picture of them on the phone and ticket the registered owner like they do with the red light cameras, if the RO doesnt want to pay, then they will have to snitch on the real culprit

with dash cams gaining in popularity, we should be able to submit videos of people running red lights or performing u-turns if you can catch them in the act, get a clear licence plate and have the RO get a ticket for whatever was done

Disagree. That's a little too 1984 for my tastes.

[originalhypa]

what bc police should have is a snitch website

Go back to north Korea, Kim Il.

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[freakshow]

what bc police should have is a snitch website, send the picture of the offenders licence plate with a picture of them on the phone and ticket the registered owner like they do with the red light cameras, if the RO doesnt want to pay, then they will have to snitch on the real culpritI'm not sure if I'm following you.. So we should report people that are using their cellphone while driving, by using our cellphones while driving to take a picture of them..

[BrRsn]

this is what happened to me when I was rear ended by a texter =(

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I guess his reaction time....





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