[pb.kidz]

I'm interested in their 1 series 2008 Red BMW 135i Coupe Dinan - $19,980 - For Sale, Finance Lease or Buy Car's Vancouver, BC - Bluestarmotors.com (http://www.bluestarmotors.com/index.php?page=showroom&vehicle_id=2268)

anyone deal with these guys before?

[mb_]

Yeah they're legit, my work deals with them when we get trade ins from time to time
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[a00755836]

i never delt with them. but at the bottom of the page, it "states" its a bbb accredited business, so it should be a reputable company. what a great price on the car.

[SpeedStars]

Personally, I have never dealt with them before. But as with all used car dealerships, i'd still recommend you to research the car above of what the salesman has told you. Remember to either ask for a car history report or at least get the VIN # and search it up yourself. Also make sure if it is out of province or BC Local. If it's out of province, this could mean that he car has hidden issues outside of BC. Finally, if you are confident the car has no hidden issues, bring in a mechanic that YOU trust. Often times, the mechanic the shop uses are heavily biased.

[sexyaccord]

car looks great, hope you get it

[nma]

That's pretty cheap... could have accident claims

[heleu]

Independent inspection is a must. I actually trust dealerships less than private sellers.

[pb.kidz]

They were pretty honest about the car but tried to sugar coat the fact that the car has 15K worth of damage from accident and had its engine replaced on separate occasion worth $17k, too bad so sad I actually like it, total about 30k worth of repairs... I wouldn't pay more than 15k for this lol
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[tofu1413]

well that explains the price. 20 grand for a 135i is a bargain. probably 5-8 grand cheaper than anything else out there... along it has Dinan kit with M sport pkg.. 6 speed too!

looks like a canadian car also...

keep in mind, repairing a BMW is not cheap if it got into an accident.... a side swipe repair on a 3 series is close to 20 grand.

if the engine has been repair / replaced under warranty by a reputable BMW dealer, then why the hell not. new engine, along with a warranty of workman ship from bmw themselves.

Bluestar is a pretty legit dealer, but along with independent lots, do some homework and research first.

[Gazorcoop]

^I agree. It's not a Honda family sedan. It won't be cheap to replace if it got hit on the side lightly (bumper/fenders/doors/lights). That will undoubtedly run you at least $10k.

[tofu1413]

^ my Si got rear ended while parked on the street... all said and done, it was a $7500 claim!!!

[supafamous]

Motor replacement is not particularly rare for that motor so I wouldn't call it a big deal in terms of whether the car is good or bad. The fuel pump caused lots of problems and BMW extended the warranty on those engines as a result. I had a couple thoughts about looking into that car as well but I wasn't ready to bite the bullet on the reliability issues of that motor.

Good luck with it though - it looks like a sweet ride.

[Energy]

Even minor accidents on a bimmer can add up pretty quickly. I had a recent claim and the final cost was way over what I was expecting.

[pb.kidz]

I'm going to go in tomorrow and take a look at it, problem is I've never driven standard

[tofu1413]

a 135i isnt a good idea to learn standard with....
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[bcrdukes]

I'm going to go in tomorrow and take a look at it, problem is I've never driven standard

a 135i isnt a good idea to learn standard with....
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:badpokerface:

[tofu1413]

400lb/ft of torque and drop the clutch... truly a power launch
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[pb.kidz]

HAHA can you tell its going to end up bad LOL... Apparently BMW's standard are very forgiving, but I'll find out :failed:

[bcrdukes]

Apparently BMW's standard are very forgiving, but I'll find out :failed:

:rofl: :joy:

[mb_]

HAHA can you tell its going to end up bad LOL... Apparently BMW's standard are very forgiving, but I'll find out :failed:

Good luck LOL.
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[J89]

Don't be a dick man.. go in there with someone who can drive a manual transmission. You will look like a retard not to mention, how the hell can you "test out" a car if you can't even drive it..

:rukidding:

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w203/CoolJamJar/Automotive%20Images/BMW-135iCoupe-0.jpg

[dared3vil0]

What's that smell? Oh nevermind, just PB Kidz clutch again.

[pb.kidz]

LOL aight guys, forget about the idea of driving it.

[dared3vil0]

LOL aight guys, forget about the idea of driving it.

Do what i did, Take a friend/dad/relative that can drive stick, have them test drive it for you.

[pb.kidz]

Alright took a look at it today, everything looks clean, car looks beautiful.
I was given all the ICBC repairs information. Have a look at it, what do you guys think?
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u165/cuong0226/747c0baf-9909-4210-8cc4-1fa2a11f7c22_zps50401d79.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u165/cuong0226/IMG_1777_zpscf3e141d.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u165/cuong0226/IMG_1776_zpsbdd5b5d3.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u165/cuong0226/IMG_1778_zpse34ae31f.jpg

[pb.kidz]

Now I'll want it independently inspected, have someone test drive it for me, what do you think I should offer them for it.

[dared3vil0]

Already a pretty damn good price... I'd offer 19,500 out the door and leave with 20,500 otd.

EDIT: Accident? I would pass.
EDIT 2: Twenty grand accident would have me RUNNING for the door.

[tofu1413]

ahh. a front end accident... thats about right. take it to a trusted mechanic to take a look at it. are you dealing with Rob?
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[Energy]

Pretty big accident. I would pass unless they lower the price even more.

[beproud]

They are given the BBB therefore I will trust. But I personally wouldn't buy any veh with accidents little or big.

[Shorn]

haha. BBB can't do shit to companies anyway so i don't see why they really hold any weight instead of a nice little logo on the website

anyway higher powered cars are easier to learn to drive standard. it has more power that you don't really need to feather the clutch/add gas as much as a low powered car, it'll just start moving by itself

my friend thought a 335i was so much easier to drive after learning manual on a miata lol

[pb.kidz]

so I should forget about this one eh
car still has warranty from BJ BMW apparently

[bcrdukes]

I'll play Devil's Advocate.

Despite you not knowing how to drive standard and the car has a pretty ugly and costly accident, just #YOLO.

[pb.kidz]

:okay:

[bcrdukes]

The numbers don't look "bad" - somewhat normal and expected, I would say.

If you want it so bad, get it inspected. But keep in mind that if you buy it, the next person is going to be like :fuckthatshit: and :heckno: once they see the repairs. Otherwise, fuck what Revscene thinks and #YOLO. :fullofwin:

[Gazorcoop]

If you really really like it, then buy it. Think about the pros and cons of upgrading from a 3 series though.

[yray]

it's a bmw, its gonna fall apart eventually... like mines :troll: :ilied:

[bcrdukes]

Yours was broken from the start. :fuckthatshit:

[VRYALT3R3D]

The fact it wasn't stated in the ad that the car was involved in an accident speaks volumes.

I would pass on the car and save up for a clean, no accident one. When it comes down to you selling it down the road, the accident will make it much harder to sell.

[El Bastardo]

BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU RATINGS MEAN NOTHING. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CONSUMER PROTECTION IN BRITISH COLUMBIA. IT IS UP TO YOU TO DETERMINE IF YOU ARE BEING RIPPED OFF OR NOT. IF YOU GET FOOLED BY SOME USED CAR SALESMAN THERE IS NO LAW TO PROTECT YOU

If a BBB "accredited" business sees their rating suffer as a result of a complaint they can pay a "fee" and get their A+ rating back. A BBB rating is not a good indicator of whether or not a car dealership will treat you fairly and be honest with you. Only word of mouth can do that. You took the right step by asking Revscene about this car and now that you've provided Revscene with information and they've responded, please listen to them. They don't know you well enough to want to lie to you.

[Jgresch]

The fact it wasn't stated in the ad that the car was involved in an accident speaks volumes.

I would pass on the car and save up for a clean, no accident one. When it comes down to you selling it down the road, the accident will make it much harder to sell.

I would say the fact that they gave him the entire breakdown of the accident/repair bill speaks greater volumes than not listing it in the ad.

[VRYALT3R3D]

I would say the fact that they gave him the entire breakdown of the accident/repair bill speaks greater volumes than not listing it in the ad.

I don't disagree.

You're right. But I'd still pass on the car due to the amount of damages.

[J89]

I would get a 5 series man for $20,000 I mean if you like Beamers. You can ball it out and bitches will ride your cock.

2006 BMW 550i 550 5 series (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/ctd/3627184476.html)
2006 BMW 5 Series 530i 85,000 KMs Extra Clean 1 Owner (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rch/ctd/3598949557.html)

Not to mention it's auto :troll:

[pb.kidz]

I would get a 5 series man for $20,000 I mean if you like Beamers. You can ball it out and bitches will ride your cock.

2006 BMW 550i 550 5 series (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/ctd/3627184476.html)
2006 BMW 5 Series 530i 85,000 KMs Extra Clean 1 Owner (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rch/ctd/3598949557.html)

Not to mention it's auto :troll:
I had a e90 3 series... I don't drive anyone but my self 99% of the time - reason for getting a 1/coupe

[tofu1413]

a good portion of the repair bill is the cost of parts... look at the cost of one headlight unit!

[Harvey Specter]

I would personally stay away from older BMW's especially 5 & 7 series. There's a reason why they're dirt cheap because no one wants to buy them and get stuck with a expensive repair bill when things go haywire.

[westopher]

Call me crazy, but a 135i for under 20k? I don't think I'd give a fuck about the accident provided the car passed a third party inspection from a trustworthy source. I kinda want to see how much I could get for my gti as a trade in.

[bcrdukes]

I had a e90 3 series... I don't drive anyone but my self 99% of the time - reason for getting a 1/coupe

Dude, take public transit or ride a bicycle. :troll:

[UFO]

The fact it wasn't stated in the ad that the car was involved in an accident speaks volumes.

I would pass on the car and save up for a clean, no accident one. When it comes down to you selling it down the road, the accident will make it much harder to sell.

Not really. "Car has been in a major accident" is not exactly a marketable sales appropach...

Say you save $5-7000 right now due to the accident claim (20-25% savings). When you resell the car, as long as you keep in mind how much less you paid because of the accident and price the car accordingly, there should be no problems. If you try to get clean market value when you sell the car, of course it will be much harder if not impossible.

Looking at the claims sheet, there's nothing that is really concerning assuming everything was repaired properly. The more important part is looking at what the damage was, instead of just freaking out at how much the damage was. I think there's a deal to be had here, if not because of people seeing the high claim amount and writing the car off because of it without further investigation

[Fafine]

if you plan on keeping the car for the next 5-7 years then do it
if you plan on only keeping it for a short amount of time, then there's no resale value when you want to give the car up because most people will look at the accident total price rather than whats fixed, as mentioned in the post above

[joeli27]

they are legit.... i bought a car from them 2 years ago.... they detailed the car before i picked it up...

[GS8]

Bump

Saw this

1982 Platinum Metallic Porsche 928 - $8,980 - For Sale, Finance Lease or Buy Car's Vancouver, BC - Bluestarmotors.com (http://www.bluestarmotors.com/index.php?page=showroom&vehicle_id=2595)

And became tempted...

Already emailed Rob. I want to see proof of everything written, particularly the 'well maintained' part since that is what makes or breaks (literally) these cars.

[thumper]

Bump

Saw this

1982 Platinum Metallic Porsche 928 - $8,980 - For Sale, Finance Lease or Buy Car's Vancouver, BC - Bluestarmotors.com (http://www.bluestarmotors.com/index.php?page=showroom&vehicle_id=2595)

And became tempted...

Already emailed Rob. I want to see proof of everything written, particularly the 'well maintained' part since that is what makes or breaks (literally) these cars.

that last part of the description is the same cut and paste catchall phrase they use on all their car adverts.

i've always been told to run away from 928's, and that top gear episode is still fresh in my mind... no offense but what are you thinking?!?

[Peturbo]

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[GS8]

that last part of the description is the same cut and paste catchall phrase they use on all their car adverts.

i've always been told to run away from 928's, and that top gear episode is still fresh in my mind... no offense but what are you thinking?!?

I've been researching these cars for years and there are a lot of myths around them. They are actually very reliable IF the previous owner(s) did the routine scheduled maintenance. Now, of course, with a car of this age, that would be hard to know unless paperwork was provided.

Porsche built these with very high grade parts and higher build standards and even decades later, it still shows provided you get a good example.

Not saying I'm going to run out and buy this but I've loved them since I was a kid and sometimes I say YOLO, lol.

[lowside67]

1982 Platinum Metallic Porsche 928 - $8,980 - For Sale, Finance Lease or Buy Car's Vancouver, BC - Bluestarmotors.com (http://www.bluestarmotors.com/index.php?page=showroom&vehicle_id=2595)

And became tempted...
Nothing gets me going like an early 80s "metallic oatmeal" coloured Porsche with an automatic and engine in the front...

[white rocket]

Nothing gets me going like an early 80s "metallic oatmeal" coloured Porsche with an automatic and engine in the front...

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j217/whiterocket/Lindsay-Lohan-Spits-Out-Drink_zpsa95fae8f.gif (http://s81.photobucket.com/user/whiterocket/media/Lindsay-Lohan-Spits-Out-Drink_zpsa95fae8f.gif.html)

all jokes aside, I have purchased product from Rob and can vouch for the quality of it and how he conducts himself. Still though, with a car of that age the available paperwork, if any, will dictate it's value.

[GS8]

Nothing gets me going like an early 80s "metallic oatmeal" coloured Porsche with an automatic and engine in the front...

Scarface and Gobots made me love the 928. The auto is more reliable and the colour is well....I've seen worse...

[thumper]

Scarface and Gobots made me love the 928. The auto is more reliable and the colour is well....I've seen worse...

let's not forget "risky business"... proof that 928's do not float.

[supafamous]

Still though, with a car of that age the available paperwork, if any, will dictate it's value.

The purchase price on any 928 is just a rounding error compared to the maintenance costs. That shouldn't stop anyone from buying one though.

[GS8]

The purchase price on any 928 is just a rounding error compared to the maintenance costs. That shouldn't stop anyone from buying one though.

Got the Carproof

2 Accidents (1 RF hit @ $3000 + 1 Comprehensive @ $3000)
1 Vandalism ($500)

^ I'd still consider the car with these in the mix

Service Report:

Valve Covers, Transmission, Power Steering Pump & Hoses all leaking oil.

I'd only buy this car if I needed lube for my fleshlight :heckno:

[westopher]

That literally sounds like a 3k car to me. Approaching 10k could get you a really nice 944 if you are interested in getting into a Porsche.
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[westopher]

1987 Porsche 944S not 944 Black on Black (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/4323507618.html)
Apparently they are even cheaper than I thought.

[bcrdukes]

Maybe it'll bounce back and appreciate like the aircooled 911SC and Carreras. :troll:

[westopher]

Well honestly mint examples will climb with cars like that as the shit ones die off. An automatic, leaky, 2 accident, "metallic oatmeal" (I love that BTW) classifies as a shit example IMO.

[GS8]

1987 Porsche 944S not 944 Black on Black (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/4323507618.html)
Apparently they are even cheaper than I thought.

They are both steals in the used market which is why I'd rather take the V8 equipped Porsche. It's way more GT than sports car. I don't mind paying more for a car with higher mileage yet more documentation.

The sound alone...

Porsche 928 S4 Sound - YouTube

:sweetjesus:

[westopher]

I'm sure if you wanted to get into a 928 there are plenty out there better than that one. I do love a nice 928 as well, but like I said, good examples of rare sports cars have shown signs of climbing no matter what they are. An accident free car is a very important part of getting into older cars like this. Buy nice and cry at the hit your bank account takes once, as opposed to trying to find a bargain and crying over multiple bank account hits trying to make an OK 30 year old german sports car into a nice one. There is nothing more expensive than a cheap german car.
I don't mind paying more for a car with higher mileage yet more documentation.:
Definitely a smart way to look at it.

[GS8]

I'm sure if you wanted to get into a 928 there are plenty out there better than that one. I do love a nice 928 as well, but like I said, good examples of rare sports cars have shown signs of climbing no matter what they are. An accident free car is a very important part of getting into older cars like this. Buy nice and cry at the hit your bank account takes once, as opposed to trying to find a bargain and crying over multiple bank account hits trying to make an OK 30 year old german sports car into a nice one. There is nothing more expensive than a cheap german car.

Definitely a smart way to look at it.

I agree with everything you say.

If I found one, it would only be a summer ride. Since buying my low mileage Regal back in July 2013, I've only racked up 2000 km and that's with 6 months of insurance starting in October.

The Porsche would be May to September at most. The G8 is my 'beater' lol.

[thumper]

They are both steals in the used market which is why I'd rather take the V8 equipped Porsche. It's way more GT than sports car. I don't mind paying more for a car with higher mileage yet more documentation.

The sound alone...

Porsche 928 S4 Sound - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbRju8oRghA)

:sweetjesus:

siren song...