[jonnymooshoo]

So... found out today that my scissor jack font fit under the car now that I'm slammed so... what portable options are out there for jacking up a low car?

Considerations:

Car MK4 VW R32
I think I'm about 3 inches off the ground at the front jack points.
The VW R32 stock doesn't have a spare (doesn't fit over stock calipers), just puncture sealant and a 12v air compressor.
Yes I have wood but this is in case of a flat, where the tire is deflated I may not be able to drive up onto wood
I do have BCAA membership

Potential Options:

1) A scissor jack from another car that's a little shorter. $ cheap cheap
Hard part is finding one that will work. Anyone have any experience with others that could potentially fit?

2)Exhaust Jack. (You can also use a compressor which I do have) $150 ish
I like the fact that it has soft contact points... also many 4x4 use them to get out of ditches etc... can do many things a traditional jack cant.
Contact (http://www.streamlineimport.com/Contact.htm)

Exhaust Air Jack -- www.streamlineimport.com - YouTube

Cheesy video but shows the potential uses
AirJack domkrats - YouTube

3) Tri-c Engineering Flat Jack $180 ish

Flat Jack - Good for 1000lbs but may be sufficient to raise it enough to get my stock scissor jack under the car

Even slammed, ground hugging cars and trucks need a jack, especially one that will slide underneath. The Tri-C Flat Jack was designed to solve this problem.
This jack measures only 1-1/2" high and fully extends to 6-1/2". Made of aluminum with a heat treated steel screw shaft. The Flat Jack will lift up to 1,000 pounds and the 5x13" base makes the Flat Jack Stable, yet easy to store. Any 7/16" socket can be used to raise the Flat Jack.

Tri-CEngineering - Custom Auto's : Classic Rebuilds : Stunt Cars : Custom Hot Rod Parts (http://www.tri-cengineering.com/Parts_by_Tri-C.htm)

http://image.lowridermagazine.com/f/images/17798511+w799+h499+cr1+ar0/lrmp_0806_08_z%2bnew_lowrider_products%2bflat_jack _flor_jack.jpg



What have you guys used? any experience with any of the above?

[Recon604]

this

Floor Jack With Rapid Pump®, 2.5 Ton Heavy Duty Steel (http://www.harborfreight.com/low-profile-floor-jack-with-rapid-pump-25-ton-heavy-duty-steel-68049.html)

[dovo]

Just drive on wood planks and jack it up from there
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[jonnymooshoo]

PORTABLE... we're talking flat tires on the side of the road here... besides.. I have this at home but it's certainly not portable at 103lbs

Lift height 2.56" to 23.8"

http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/additional_images/24992_3_lg.jpg
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Arcan Ultra Low-Lift Garage Jack — 2-Ton Capacity, Model# XL2T | Floor Jacks| Northern Tool + Equipment (http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200514333_200514333)

[jonnymooshoo]

Yes I have wood but this is in case of a flat, where the tire is deflated I may not be able to drive up onto wood

if the tire is fully deflated driving up onto wood is not going to help....

[falcon]

Just put a piece of wood in your car and use the scissor jack. That's what I've always done. Or raise your car... if a scissor jack can't even fit under it it's past the point of being practical. I used scissor jacks on my low cars to lift them enough to fit under my regular jack. The fact you can't even use one anymore is silly. But I guess it looks cool and you get all the ladies, right?

[BrRsn]

scissor jack is best jack.

Just make sure its not a BMW one where the nut that holds it up is plastic lol.

Older toyota scissor jacks are money

[westopher]

if the tire is fully deflated driving up onto wood is not going to help....
If your front right is deflated put the wood under your back right and jack it up from the rear. You will have such minimal suspension travel that you can easily lift the whole side of the car with an oem vw jack. Ask me how I know.:ahwow:

[jonnymooshoo]

for a laugh check out 1:27 of this video

AirJack domkrats - YouTube

[Fafine]

just carry 2 pieces of wood in the trunk
something the size of 2"x4"x10"
stack those, drive over it and bam you can use your scissor jack

[jonnymooshoo]

do people even read threads before replying?...

:suspicious:

[mb_]

I'm pretty sure you can still drive on wooden planks even with a flat.

[BrRsn]

do people even read threads before replying?...

:suspicious:

No. I usually have a reply formulated before entering the thread.

I guess this post kind of negates the above statement.

Fuck you.

[jonnymooshoo]

again...

if the tire is fully deflated driving up onto wood is not going to help....

at least westhopher had some reasonably practical advice.

[jonnymooshoo]

No. I usually have a reply formulated before entering the thread.

I guess this post kind of negates the above statement.

Fuck you.

Thanks for your contribution you were extremely helpful. :squint:

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[daval]

well, maybe you can lift your fender and slide that scissor jack in.

or might be able to use ur 12v compressor and air up to whatever psi and drive on 2x4. If its like a burst and air don't even worth the time, then i guess worst case you have to drive on the 2x4. Hope that short roll onto the wood won't damage the inside of the tire.

[BigBadWhitey]

what do the jacking points look like?

The jack in my 1997 camaro is a scissor style, and at full...compression? its only a few inches tall. But, if you are only 3 inches tall with air in the tires, it might not be flat enough.

[Special K]

Why do you need a jack when you said your calipers can't clear a spare? Are you carrying a 5th wheel in the car?

Am I missing something?
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[SpuGen]

Driving up on wooden blocks with a flat, isn't going to make your car spontaneously combust.

Oh no, your wheel has to roll a whole 4 inches forward on a flat!
What ever shall you do?!?

Unless your wheels are made of Paper Mache/Rotas, you're fine.

again...



at least westhopher had some reasonably practical advice.

[jonnymooshoo]

@SpuGen I'm not really worried, it's just that if it's completely deflated it's not going to help add much height even if a 2x4 is under it.

After a second thought as well as with dhillon09's :fullofwin: help I think a scissor jack may do the job.....

the Fitment issue with the mk4 vw jack is that it's not a real scissor jack.. it's a "widdow maker" and attempts to fit and lift from the side and the slanted arm gets in the way.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/VOLKSWAGEN-VW-GOLF-GTI-JACK-SPARE-EMERGENCY-TOOLS-OEM-USED-2010-2011-2012-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/ZAgAAOxy5P9RHCMT/$(KGrHqR,!kwFEQYjP)Y1BRHCMS)lB!~~60_35.JPG
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I may try finding a scissor jack from a small car to see if it fits better. There's no upward arm to get in the way.
http://www.garagejack.org/store/img/wilmar-w1600-1-12-ton-scissor-jack_3170_500.jpg

@Special K
That's a good question. Strange that VW supplies a jack given that there's no spare. I guess it's for safety/other potential issues. I've never used the OEM sealant so I'm guessing you don't need to be jacked up to use it.

[BrRsn]

I was trolling with some real information mixed in.

Get the jack out of any 90's corolla or camry and it should be under 2 inches and be $20 or less .. and they are solid. I've used one to lift my 4000lb jeep more times than I probably should have lol

[jonnymooshoo]

I was trolling with some real information mixed in.

Get the jack out of any 90's corolla or camry and it should be under 2 inches and be $20 or less .. and they are solid. I've used one to lift my 4000lb jeep more times than I probably should have lol

that's great info thx.. I'll check the junker this week to see if the have one

[danizer]

I may try finding a scissor jack from a small car to see if it fits better. There's no upward arm to get in the way.
http://www.garagejack.org/store/img/wilmar-w1600-1-12-ton-scissor-jack_3170_500.jpg

@Special K
That's a good question. Strange that VW supplies a jack given that there's no spare. I guess it's for safety/other potential issues. I've never used the OEM sealant so I'm guessing you don't need to be jacked up to use it.

in my opinion scissor jacks are garbage...especially the one pictured...even though it fits under your car, you have a really hard time getting the car up

[GabAlmighty]

if the tire is fully deflated driving up onto wood is not going to help....

do people even read threads before replying?...

:suspicious:

again...



at least westhopher had some reasonably practical advice.

That's because your reasoning is stupid. If you get a flat tire, chances are you'll be driving another 30-100' on it in order to pull off to the side of the road. Driving an extra 6" to get up on to little pieces of foot isn't going to damage your tire anymore. This is why people keep bringing it back up, because your argument isn't substantiated and is stupid.

[?uestlove]

I think the guy means even if he gets it on 2x4's it will still be too low (since the car will be sitting lower since the tire is flat)
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[westopher]

That is what he means, but as I already said it won't be too low. We have the same jack, and basically the same ground clearance. Jack it from the other corner. Its not hard. I don't know why this needs to be any more complicated. Keep a stock jack and a shorter 2x4 nailed to a longer 2x4.

[Phil@rise]

Take two piecesof 2x4 one 12" long the other 6" long screw them together like a step and drive on up

[jonnymooshoo]

I think the guy means even if he gets it on 2x4's it will still be too low (since the car will be sitting lower since the tire is flat)
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Exactly.. and as I said.. at least westhopher had some practical real world advice. Still doesn't mean that I won't explore any other options... I'd rather carry a jack that works in my trunk than a 2x4... and from the looks of it the exhaust jack seems to work quite well.

[dared3vil0]

I'd suggest using 2x8's, less chance of the car slipping off or the wood kicking out...

[godwin]

If you guys are super paranoid and picky.. why not install an pneumatic jack system? Ksport Pneumatic Air Jack (http://ksportusa.com/products/air-jack/)

They are much lighter (just a couple pounds / cylinder) and less bulky than any low rise steel jacks or wood ramps you are carrying around. Not to mention a whole heck less hassle.

[melloman]

I was trolling with some real information mixed in.

Get the jack out of any 90's corolla or camry and it should be under 2 inches and be $20 or less .. and they are solid. I've used one to lift my 4000lb jeep more times than I probably should have lol

Older Hondas 89+ should work too, they're pretty god damn small.

in my opinion scissor jacks are garbage...especially the one pictured...even though it fits under your car, you have a really hard time getting the car up

This is for an emergency on the side of the road.. It'll atleast get the car up so you can throw another wheel on. That and I've never seen a scissor jack fail. Not like the widow maker that throws the car on you :heckno:

[Matsuda]

when Rcubed had an Audi A4, he used the stock scissor jack, well it broke and the car fell. Luckily he wasn't under the car at the time.

[westopher]

when Rcubed had an Audi A4, he used the stock scissor jack, well it broke and the car fell. Luckily he wasn't under the car at the time.
No one should EVER go under the car with a scissor jack anyways. Anyone who goes under a car without jackstands is risking their life IMO. As much as I'd like to fix my loose drain plug or cracked oilpan on the side of the road, I'm not willing to die to do it, so I'll deal with the inconvenience of waiting for a tow truck, or just pack jackstands for that matter.

[A-Dev]

why keep a jack in your car if you don't have a spare?

I'm not understanding the need for a jack.

[westopher]

To take a properly inflated wheel off of the car, stand on top of it and balance while running backwards in order to get to the nearest tire shop without damaging your heels if you are wearing improper shoes for running. Duh.
But seriously, I know jonny has aftermarket wheels so I assume he has a stock wheel he can throw in the back. I think him mentioning it didn't come with a spare was just a random piece of info. At least thats the only explanation I can think of.