Akinari
04-14-2013, 10:03 PM
This is photography related, so I thought I'd share this issue that's going on with Speedhunters Editor Dino Dalle Carbonare and 7Tune CEO/Managing Director Adam Zillin.
Long story short, 7Tune keeps stealing Dino's watermarked Speedhunters photos and reposts them on their site, effectively cropping out his watermark and failing to give him credit for his images.
Dino's initial post
http://i.imgur.com/IvfyCPJ.png
7Tune's response
http://i.imgur.com/IDx50cq.png
Adam's PM to Dino #1
http://i.imgur.com/KfzSpgt.png
Adam's PM to Dino #2
http://i.imgur.com/BEdC669.png
This is the main forum of discussion being used on the 7Tune page, some serious butthurt and douchebaggery going on in here, mostly from the 7Tune guys though, seemingly...
https://www.facebook.com/7Tune/posts/517108974993210
Adam's most recent post on his Facebook page:
Sad but true. I think professional photographers are a molested and much maligned bunch but I also blame the camera manufacturers for some of the problem.
Nowadays, any Joe-blow off the street can get themselves a DSLR because they are constantly getting cheaper and cheaper. Plus, the quality and durability of images, bodies and lenses is ever increasing. Photoshop has made photography a walk in the fucking park, blindfolded.
I've lost count how many pages and business cards I've seen by self-proclaimed "Photography professionals" that couldn't even shoot straight at a toilet bowl with the lights on. Their work absolutely sucks and that's before we even get to the issue of being paid for what they do. It's shameful that these people try to convince others that they are professional photographers.
The vast majority of them never get paid a cent and that's just as well, simply because they fucking suck, but it hurts the people that do know what they're doing because the value of THEIR work, in the eyes of a potential client, now has absolutely ZERO meaning.
The saddest part is that clients often doesn't know the difference between a Good photographer and a Shit photographer. They often don't understand the technical aspects to what makes a shot superior. They say things like, "Your equipment is the same. What makes your photos any better?" or "Why the hell should I pay YOU when I can get this done for free?"
These people are simply clueless, believing that a faux "Professional" can deliver a superior product despite being an inferior producer and then, to top it all off, do it for absolutely nothing. What planet are we on again?
Then, on the other hand, you have REAL photographers who have a God given, natural talent for what they do, are technically sound, possess a sensitivity toward a given subject being aimed at through the viewfinder, are flexible in any condition, weather or situation and have a genuine interest and concern about the finished product, going without money for their services simply because there is a boatload of photographic refugees bringing the industry to a standstill by offering an inferior product at a ridiculous price... or worse... for FREE. And all because the modern DSLR is so fucking cheap.
Owning or shooting with a DSLR does NOT instantly make you a camera god. Just like winning the lottery, in 95% of cases, it will lead you to living on the streets without a cent in your pocket if you are that naive.
But professional photographers need to realize that they MUST be paid for the time and effort and resources it takes to produce superior images and if a client still refuses or baulks at the suggestion of paying you for a superior product, even after being educated as to why they should pay you for your services, it's best to leave them to find someone who will do it for free and learn the hard way.
http://i.imgur.com/5e8QOTx.png
:lawl:
Moral of the story: if using someone else's images, never crop out the watermark, never, and always credit as well.
EDIT: Just to be clear to avoid fails, I'm not taking anyone's side, just pointing out that credit should be given to images!
Long story short, 7Tune keeps stealing Dino's watermarked Speedhunters photos and reposts them on their site, effectively cropping out his watermark and failing to give him credit for his images.
Dino's initial post
http://i.imgur.com/IvfyCPJ.png
7Tune's response
http://i.imgur.com/IDx50cq.png
Adam's PM to Dino #1
http://i.imgur.com/KfzSpgt.png
Adam's PM to Dino #2
http://i.imgur.com/BEdC669.png
This is the main forum of discussion being used on the 7Tune page, some serious butthurt and douchebaggery going on in here, mostly from the 7Tune guys though, seemingly...
https://www.facebook.com/7Tune/posts/517108974993210
Adam's most recent post on his Facebook page:
Sad but true. I think professional photographers are a molested and much maligned bunch but I also blame the camera manufacturers for some of the problem.
Nowadays, any Joe-blow off the street can get themselves a DSLR because they are constantly getting cheaper and cheaper. Plus, the quality and durability of images, bodies and lenses is ever increasing. Photoshop has made photography a walk in the fucking park, blindfolded.
I've lost count how many pages and business cards I've seen by self-proclaimed "Photography professionals" that couldn't even shoot straight at a toilet bowl with the lights on. Their work absolutely sucks and that's before we even get to the issue of being paid for what they do. It's shameful that these people try to convince others that they are professional photographers.
The vast majority of them never get paid a cent and that's just as well, simply because they fucking suck, but it hurts the people that do know what they're doing because the value of THEIR work, in the eyes of a potential client, now has absolutely ZERO meaning.
The saddest part is that clients often doesn't know the difference between a Good photographer and a Shit photographer. They often don't understand the technical aspects to what makes a shot superior. They say things like, "Your equipment is the same. What makes your photos any better?" or "Why the hell should I pay YOU when I can get this done for free?"
These people are simply clueless, believing that a faux "Professional" can deliver a superior product despite being an inferior producer and then, to top it all off, do it for absolutely nothing. What planet are we on again?
Then, on the other hand, you have REAL photographers who have a God given, natural talent for what they do, are technically sound, possess a sensitivity toward a given subject being aimed at through the viewfinder, are flexible in any condition, weather or situation and have a genuine interest and concern about the finished product, going without money for their services simply because there is a boatload of photographic refugees bringing the industry to a standstill by offering an inferior product at a ridiculous price... or worse... for FREE. And all because the modern DSLR is so fucking cheap.
Owning or shooting with a DSLR does NOT instantly make you a camera god. Just like winning the lottery, in 95% of cases, it will lead you to living on the streets without a cent in your pocket if you are that naive.
But professional photographers need to realize that they MUST be paid for the time and effort and resources it takes to produce superior images and if a client still refuses or baulks at the suggestion of paying you for a superior product, even after being educated as to why they should pay you for your services, it's best to leave them to find someone who will do it for free and learn the hard way.
http://i.imgur.com/5e8QOTx.png
:lawl:
Moral of the story: if using someone else's images, never crop out the watermark, never, and always credit as well.
EDIT: Just to be clear to avoid fails, I'm not taking anyone's side, just pointing out that credit should be given to images!