iOS 7 changes are overwhelmingly cosmetic (hands-on) [Archive]

dangonay

06-11-2013, 06:50 AM

Maybe the MODS could just change the title to the iOS 7 Thread and merge this one with comments from the other thread. No need to have discussions spread around.

Been playing with the beta since last night and also with Xcode. They're right when they said there were a lot more changes than what they could go over at the keynote. Many items that just received a one-liner on the feature slides are actually significant. For example, gaming. They now have a hardware-accelerated animation system for developers along with a new framework for external wired/wireless controllers/profiles. Airdrop isn't just a feature - developers can use the AirDrop framework to add the ability to share to their own Apps. iOS already dominates Enterprise and they've improved it with enhanced VPN support and mobile device management features.

Eye-candy is nice, I guess, but not something I'm really interested in. Hell, I still have the default Windows wallpaper on my machines - that shows you how much I'm into customizing. But the interface is nice and clean and more consistent, which is good.

spades

06-11-2013, 07:24 AM

most of the new features are tweaks i had before i lost my jailbreak lol

MarkyMark

06-11-2013, 07:30 AM

Apple iOS 7 - Operating systems - CNET Reviews (http://reviews.cnet.com/apple-ios-7/)

Seems the changes are pretty good. Now I wonder how the actual new iphone looks like.

Google iphone 5 if you want to know what the next iPhone looks like
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Ilagon

06-11-2013, 08:42 AM

I updated my iPhone 5 to iOS 7 last night. I welcome the changes. My phone was previously jailbroken and the tweaks I was using are now integrated to iOS 7. For a beta, it runs great. I've discovered a couple of bugs but nothing major.
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SkinnyPupp

06-11-2013, 08:48 AM

Welcome to 2009!

gars

06-11-2013, 09:30 AM

It's funny, watching the live updates about the show. I definitely welcome some of the new changes to iOS7, but then you step back and realize it's crazy that some of those changes are features that have been missing for years.

When he demo'd the weather app, the app is great and all with the dynamic background... but why couldn't they get the icon on the main screen to just update with the current temp and weather? This is 2013, and all the other OS's have updating widgets and tiles.

Every coffeeshop/fast food join has free wifi now - did it really take this many years to have your wifi page easily accessible?

sonick

06-11-2013, 09:47 AM

new lockscreen looks like android haha

Vale46Rossi

06-11-2013, 10:25 AM

Played with it for two nights now... really enjoy it.

dangonay

06-11-2013, 10:31 AM

For a beta, it runs great. I've discovered a couple of bugs but nothing major.
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I've got loads of bugs, but mostly with Apps not working right. Lots of issues with music/audio Apps, wondering if this is due to the new Inter-App Audio framework Apple added. Also wonder what this means for Audiobus since its main functionality is now part of iOS.

Edited: Forgot that Inter-App Audio was on one of the slides for iOS 6, but never made it into the final version. Then Audiobus cameout and people wondered if this was the same thing. Now it looks like Apple has included it this time around. Big news for people doing anything with music.

Tim Budong

06-11-2013, 10:31 AM

Want to try out...all those UDID reg sites are down :(
want to try it on my ipod touch

jjson

06-11-2013, 10:49 AM

Apple iOS 7 - Operating systems - CNET Reviews (http://reviews.cnet.com/apple-ios-7/)

4:18 "Control center is something that's so simple and yet so essential"

More like control center is the SBSettings on my jailbroken 3G

.Renn.Sport

06-11-2013, 11:13 AM

willystyle

06-11-2013, 11:20 AM

This looks like a refresh to keep up-to-date with the other rising mobile OS'es (Android, WP8, Berry) rather than coming up with something entirely new. There's hardly any features that's unique to iOS7, and many new layouts reminds me of Android.

ForbiddenX

06-11-2013, 11:45 AM

I installed on my 5 and it's been alright. Been running into quite a few bugs but understandable since it is a beta release.

It is really more of a refresh, there isn't anything "new" I think the coolest thing is the parallax background lol.

SkinnyPupp

06-11-2013, 11:58 AM

gars

06-11-2013, 11:59 AM

for those without iphone 5, I won't recommend updating to iOS7, even when its final released. I installed it on a 4S and a 5... the 4S looks like windows running without aero, and the phone slowed down dramatically. iPhone 5 on the other hand looks much better
I can't imagine how slow it will run on an iphone 4... considering its already fucking slow when running 6.1

I installed it on my work iPhone 4. It's almost unusable, but I just wanted to play around with it for fun.

But for anyone who needs to use their phone on a regular basis - don't do it.

FerrariEnzo

06-11-2013, 12:20 PM

I guess this is what happens when they decide not to copy android features.. lol... nothing impressive....

dangonay

06-11-2013, 02:15 PM

For those who installed it, did you get a friend to give your device access, or are you actually developers (and have you played around with Xcode yet)?

ForbiddenX

06-11-2013, 04:39 PM

I'm an actual developer but I haven't played around with xcode yet going to poke around when I get home. No projects at work have switched to the new SDK/Xcode yet. Probably soon though.

DanHibiki

06-11-2013, 06:17 PM

iOS 7 feels slow when switching apps, going to home screen, multitasking, and tapping the screen for pop-up controls (ie. video player). The delay is definitely noticeable and I hope this is just a beta thing.

Also I noticed another problem. When trying to rearrange apps in a folder you can move anything to the right pages. It thinks you want to move the app out of the folder instead.

But other than the bugs this new OS looks and feels GREAT!

I complained bout the looks and all too but the transitions from app to app and such feels awesome.

Also. Vancouver now has 3D maps!

EmperorIS

06-11-2013, 06:54 PM

Don't like the new colour scheme.... like everything else.

You don't need to register your UDID... instead of restore .. chose update to apply IOS7 to your phone

StylinRed

06-11-2013, 08:32 PM

i hate to say it.... but i know some of you are expecting it from me :)

they copied a lot of Symbian in these changes and WebOS

Tim Budong

06-11-2013, 09:19 PM

Also. Vancouver now has 3D maps!

OH HAI! My favorite Goalie!

http://imageshack.us/a/img11/3886/imagezjig.jpg

I gotta say, the 3D maps are probably about a year to 6months old because I see my car at the new office

Minto

06-11-2013, 10:48 PM

Meh.

The redesign doesn't feel harmonious overall and looks pretty generic to me. The calendar also looks exactly like an app I've seen in the App Store.

LiquidTurbo

06-12-2013, 12:32 AM

The way to kill apps reminds me of WebOS..

WebOS was actually pretty good. Sad it got killed off.. had potential!

.Renn.Sport

06-12-2013, 03:18 AM

I notice there are quite a few bugs or missing features in this build already. Some of which are expected.

- Camera app crashes randomly
- No option to download all songs with one click in iTunes Match
- Huge Performance issues, overall responsiveness, app store, music app, everything just lags.
- Chinese handwriting is actually worst than before
- a lot of apps currently have compatibility issues (i.e. wechat not allowing pictures to be chosen, bejewelled blitz fail to launch etc)
- Can not swipe to delete in email app

gars

06-12-2013, 10:10 AM

For those who installed it, did you get a friend to give your device access, or are you actually developers (and have you played around with Xcode yet)?

Like someone mentioned already, you don't need to give your device access. You just need the .ipsw file for your specific phone and just force iTunes to update it.

It seems that some of the apps just took forever to boot the first time around, because there were new permissions - but it seems better after.

I like some of the transistions - with the folders and apps, etc - but they're way too slow.

RESN

06-12-2013, 10:27 AM

^ where can I find the ispw? I downloaded one, and it doesn't work :(

gars

06-12-2013, 11:05 AM

^ where can I find the ispw? I downloaded one, and it doesn't work :(

I have the iPhone 4 and iPhone 5 ipsw files. If you guys need them, pm me and let me know - I'll dropbox a link for guys. My coworker isn't in today, so I don't know if I can grab any other ones.

I got them through the Apple Developer site - my buddy downloaded it through his account.

dangonay

06-12-2013, 11:15 AM

Like someone mentioned already, you don't need to give your device access. You just need the .ipsw file for your specific phone and just force iTunes to update it.
I'm aware of that method. I'm really more interested in who's a developer (as I also develop for iOS). They will usually have a different perspective on things. For me the new API's are a bigger deal (compared to the UI) as this is what's going to allow developers to create better Apps. I mentioned two above (gaming and audio), but there's a lot more.
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dangonay

06-26-2013, 06:39 AM

Well this came out of nowhere. Just one day after Blackberry announced their MDM for iOS and Android, Apple puts a page up giving details about their new enterprise features.

iOS 7 For Business (http://www.apple.com/ios/ios7/business/)

Not good for BB, who always had an edge in this area. And even with that edge they were still losing enterprise customers to iOS. This will just make things worse for BB.

gars

06-26-2013, 09:01 AM

iOS7 Beta 2 was out yesterday. Fixed one big bug that I had found before - where if you go to the recent calls list - tapping a number on that list would automatically call them back, as opposed to opening up that number with extra options such as messaging back, adding to contacts, etc.

dangonay

06-26-2013, 09:20 AM

Mine now has the new side status bar. :)

http://dangonay.com/images/statusbar.jpg

HondaGuy

06-27-2013, 12:08 AM

For the ppl with ios7, any changes to the maps?

Currently on 6.1.3 (iphone 4s) and not liking the maps, really missing the old version mapping lol...
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threezero

06-27-2013, 02:10 AM

For the ppl with ios7, any changes to the maps?

Currently on 6.1.3 (iphone 4s) and not liking the maps, really missing the old version mapping lol...
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you know you can d/l google maps on ios right?

SkinnyPupp

06-27-2013, 07:56 AM

http://i.imgur.com/jXtAkIf.jpg

SkinnyPupp

06-27-2013, 07:59 AM

Mine now has the new side status bar. :)

http://dangonay.com/images/statusbar.jpg
Is that official? It looks like a really bad jailbreak hack :heckno:

dangonay

06-28-2013, 09:32 AM

Anyone else want to run some benchmarks on an iPhone 5 for comparison? I did the browser/Java ones first and was quite surprised (iOS 6 results are in brackets). This is on Beta 2.

Mozilla Kraken: 13,960 (20,630) lower is better
Sunspider 1.0: 730ms (845) lower is better
Browsermark 2.0: 2760 (2614) higher is better
Google Octane V1: 2820 (1728) higher is better

I ran Kraken first and thought it was a mistake since the results improved so much. But after running all benchmarks three times these results are consistent. Looks like some significant performance gains in Safari.

Tried running GFXBench but it crashed/won't load properly.

Acura604

06-28-2013, 11:24 AM

its nice... I like it.. slick...laggy on ipad 3 but fine on iphone 5.

HondaGuy

06-28-2013, 09:15 PM

you know you can d/l google maps on ios right?

yah but dont like the design as the old ios 5.1 lol...
Just missed the old setup.

Reason why I never updated my dad's ipad2 ios lol...

.Renn.Sport

06-30-2013, 12:09 AM

I downgraded all my devices back to iOS 6 after trying iOS7 beta... Just too much incompatibility at the moment. and really not a fan of how it looks after using it more.
I'll re-consider playing with it when final release is out. But for now, only the testing devices will be running beta iOS7.

Acura604

07-02-2013, 12:45 PM

anyone got the 'call blocker' to work? I blocked my work and home numbers...and then tried calling to iphone and they still get through. blocked from call history as well as contacts list..but no dice.

EDIT: it works.. looks like it needs a min or 2 to kick in before fully blocking the numbers.

Acura604

07-08-2013, 09:47 AM

ios7 beta 3 is out.. u can do update OTA via settings/software update.

Acura604

07-29-2013, 09:23 AM

after a 1 week hiatus, ios 7 beta 4 is NOW available OTA or download.

DanHibiki

07-29-2013, 12:46 PM

Debating or not if I should update to beta 4 or just wait for the final release
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trancehead

07-29-2013, 12:50 PM

is anyone having the issue of not being able to run the web inspector properly for your iphone/simulator once upgrading to ios7 sdk?

Quick Tip: Using Web Inspector to Debug Mobile Safari | Webdesigntuts+ (http://webdesign.tutsplus.com/tutorials/workflow-tutorials/quick-tip-using-web-inspector-to-debug-mobile-safari/)

Acura604

09-18-2013, 11:03 AM

OK..so who's updated so far?!

apparently the BETA GOLD MASTER is identical to the PUBLIC RELEASE so no need to upgrade....and therefore, there is no OTA prompt.

Vale46Rossi

09-18-2013, 11:54 AM

OK..so who's updated so far?!

apparently the BETA GOLD MASTER is identical to the PUBLIC RELEASE so no need to upgrade....and therefore, there is no OTA prompt.

I was just about to update :( nevermind LOL

k2_alpha

09-18-2013, 01:27 PM

Updated. The animations on my 4s are not very smooth. Color schemes are ok once you get used to it. Miss the old iPhone colors though
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aznkev03

09-18-2013, 01:33 PM

Updated. The animations on my 4s are not very smooth. Color schemes are ok once you get used to it. Miss the old iPhone colors though
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I find it a bit slow on the iPhone 5 too but barely noticeable. The new colors will take some time to get used to. I kind of like old safari better. The one one doesn't hide the address bar anymore so it's always in the way.
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Acura604

09-18-2013, 01:42 PM

keep in mind...that the iOS install might be slow at first while it is restoring your apps from backup. I've been running the beta since 1 on my ip5 and it is smooth and fast....

ToneCapone

09-18-2013, 01:48 PM

Just updated IP5... very refreshing so far. Feels like it's a mini techy Christmas :nyan:

IOS is very bright with a ton of color. Fairly easy to get used to.
Love the fact that they included new backgrounds and sounds.

I can't pin point it exactly but it has a Google feel to it...
Time to go look up some ios7 secrets The best hidden features in iOS 7 | The Verge (http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/18/4741412/the-best-hidden-features-in-ios-7)

Ikkaku

09-18-2013, 02:50 PM

aznkev03

09-18-2013, 02:57 PM

It seems they have restricted the scaling of photos in terms of resizing for wallpapers. Photos that I used to use as a wallpaper will not zoom out anymore, leaving me with just a portion of the actual photo itself.

Anybody else having this problem?
I do. First thing I noticed and was a bit irritating
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ToneCapone

09-18-2013, 03:18 PM

It seems they have restricted the scaling of photos in terms of resizing for wallpapers. Photos that I used to use as a wallpaper will not zoom out anymore, leaving me with just a portion of the actual photo itself.

Anybody else having this problem?

It's motion depth thing they have going on so the background moves. To shut it off go to Settings > General > Accessibility > Reduce motion

Ikkaku

09-18-2013, 03:21 PM

Even after disabling it, it will not let me zoom out like before. I'm guessing it is because they want to have the entire screen filled, which is why they limited how far you can zoom out.

Iceman_2K

09-18-2013, 03:27 PM

My 5 is running smoother and faster than it was before.

Jmac

09-18-2013, 04:32 PM

Loving it but finding it hilarious that all the Apple hipsters are raving about features webOS had 4 years ago :lawl:

FRStan

09-18-2013, 05:18 PM

About time they had a built in flashlight app!
Also, it generally runs quite smooth on my 4S except for text messaging
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!Yaminashi

09-18-2013, 05:24 PM

I like the refreshing new look of the os.
I've never been a huge apple fan but I've always had an ipod. Just updated it today and it looks awesome.

I just wish there was a setting to get rid of that blurred bar at the bottom of the homescreen. I feel like it takes away alot of wallpaper real estate

DanHibiki

09-18-2013, 05:31 PM

I feel like its a tad bit less snappy than ios 6 on my iPhone 5...

Anyone notice double tapping the home button to get to the multitask tray is slower? There's a split second delay before it jumps to it.
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!Aznboi128

09-18-2013, 05:50 PM

k3lv

09-18-2013, 06:27 PM

everything is smooth after 10-15 mins of loading up ios7 for the first time. I read it lags in the beginning due to it pre-loading all the old apps to be updated for ios7. I also got stuck at icloud for a while but everything worked out in the end.

Loving the new ios so far. The change up is a great fresher-upper

SkinnyPupp

09-18-2013, 06:48 PM

Downloading now for ipad 2 and iphone 5. I REALLY hope this addresses some of the main issues I have with ios. Dangonay says it does but I don't really trust him to be objective :fuckthatshit:

Iceman_2K

09-18-2013, 06:57 PM

what were your issues?

SkinnyPupp

09-18-2013, 07:06 PM

what were your issues?
Rather than go through point by point, I'll just say that iOS 6 is extremely outdated overall. Maybe you only really notice after using Android 4.x for a while.

Also performance is pretty bad for multitasking, even on the iphone 5. Hopefully 7 improves that, but with only 1GB of RAM I doubt it will make things better. If anything, it'll be worse. We'll see!

wreck

09-18-2013, 07:20 PM

anyone update to 7 on an ipad 2?

if so, how did it run?

SkinnyPupp

09-18-2013, 07:31 PM

Podcast app didn't get updated :seriously:

LiquidTurbo

09-18-2013, 07:59 PM

I like the subtle animation changes compared to before. Definitely my favorite addition is swipe from left
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Acura604

09-18-2013, 09:09 PM

Updated 3 devices with iOS 7

iPhone 5 16gig - smooth, fast, slick

iPad 3 16gig - minor, occasional lag but bearable

iPhone 4 16gig - fairly laggy navigating through folders and apps but somewhat bearable.
- changing wallpapers froze it for up to 10seconds.
- bit of lag when launching some apps.

tomatogunk

09-18-2013, 09:10 PM

anyone update to 7 on an ipad 2?

if so, how did it run?

I would say runs pretty well but the iPad 2 is definitely showing its age. Minor lag every now and then but it's bearable, probably same as iOS 6

nabs

09-18-2013, 09:12 PM

it will take some getting used to. not used to the iPhone to be running so fluidly.

DanHibiki

09-18-2013, 09:26 PM

ya this slight mutlitasking delay is bugging me...I can't be the only one who notices it

Harvey Specter

09-18-2013, 09:27 PM

Updated. The animations on my 4s are not very smooth. Color schemes are ok once you get used to it. Miss the old iPhone colors though
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My dad has complained about the same thing after he updated his 4s. He also said the display isn't as "crisp" as it was prior to the update.

LiquidTurbo

09-18-2013, 10:24 PM

Pretty cute ad.. Apple is the master of marketing..

Apple - iPhone 5c - Designed Together - YouTube

rice cooker

09-18-2013, 10:24 PM

I like the refreshing new look of the os.

I just wish there was a setting to get rid of that blurred bar at the bottom of the homescreen. I feel like it takes away alot of wallpaper real estatei would like to know also.....so irritating
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rice cooker

09-18-2013, 11:05 PM

I think I'm liking the ios7 theme for ios6 a lot more than the actual ios7
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NotDatGai

09-19-2013, 01:19 AM

updated my iphone 4s.. its running faster than before.
updated ipad 4.. also running faster

the bright colors are definitely something to get used to.
definitely feels like an android now though..

Acura604

09-19-2013, 07:42 AM

can't seem to find iTunes radio... launched music app but no listing for radio...odd....may have to restore to the PUBLIC RELEASE from the GM.

!Aznboi128

09-19-2013, 07:45 AM

itunes radio is only avaliable for us for now

if you have a us apple id you can get around it

lowside67

09-19-2013, 08:45 AM

I find the new iOS 7 to run faster on my iPhone 5. The new design is a little hit or miss and looks pretty androidy to me but some of the redesigned features such as faster access to camera modes, etc. all make a lot of sense to me and I like them.

TPMarko

09-19-2013, 08:56 AM

sounds like some positives and some negatives for iPhone4S users. my gf is still on iOS5, would you guys recommend her upgrading to iOS7 despite some of the noted lag issues?

!Yaminashi

09-19-2013, 10:58 AM

I've read the new iPod touch 5 has the same internals as the iPhone 4s and ios7 runs slower than it did on iOS 6 for me. Its not terrible but its noticeable.

So if she values speed I'd say update to iOS 6
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threezero

09-19-2013, 11:14 AM

!!!!! The new alarm sounds are so soft!!!
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asian_XL

09-19-2013, 07:04 PM

updated my ipad 2, probably not going to use it again, it looks like shit.

jtrinh

09-19-2013, 07:07 PM

I've been trying to update my iphone4 for the past 2 hours. Was running Jailbroken 6.1.2.
I've hit the "Restore iPhone..." button 3 times now and at the end of the Software Update download, it keeps telling me I have to restore my phone before anything can continue..
Can anyone help?

asian_XL

09-19-2013, 07:19 PM

^ master reset your phone first.

Minto

09-19-2013, 07:34 PM

sounds like some positives and some negatives for iPhone4S users. my gf is still on iOS5, would you guys recommend her upgrading to iOS7 despite some of the noted lag issues?
My friend has an iPhone 4S, upgraded to iOS7 today. We both thought it was much smoother and responsive. Give it a shot.

DanHibiki

09-19-2013, 07:45 PM

ok i checked with a few other people and i'm not the only one. there is DEFINITELY slight delay when going to the app switcher, going back to home screen and trying to click on another app or swipe right after, or going back a page (in any app) then clicking another link right away.

It's like there's 2 extra frames of animation added to the end of everything that requires u to wait a tad bit longer before clicking anything. Yes I know it's a small thing but my muscle memory has been used to the snappiness of iOS for the past many years that this is a big annoyance. I'm REALLY surprised not many people are talking bout this on the net. I wish there were more complaints so that apple can fix it in the next update.

!Yaminashi

09-19-2013, 07:45 PM

DanHibiki

09-19-2013, 07:57 PM

If you're having trouble with the animations being slightly choppy try going into settings > general > accessibility > increase contrast.

Your control center and notification area as well as your folder backgrounds wont be semi-transparent anymore, but your animations will be smoother

Thanks for the reply.

Ya I gave that a shot but it didn't work.

It's not that the animation isn't smooth but more like they added a few extra still frames to the end of all the animations. So what you think is "oh, the animation is completed and safe to press something now" but nope! it's not finished even though it looks like it is!

!Yaminashi

09-19-2013, 08:00 PM

Thanks for the reply.

Ya I gave that a shot but it didn't work.

It's not that the animation isn't smooth but more like they added a few extra still frames to the end of all the animations. So what you think is "oh, the animation is completed and safe to press something now" but nope! it's not finished even though it looks like it is!

I know what you mean and I think thats why non iphone 5s and 5c devices feel slower on the new ios. You'd think Apple would create speed optimizations for all of their supported devices.

The only positive to ios 7 to me is the prettiness factor.

My ipod definitely feels a tad slower compared to ios 6.

I really hope they release an update soon that's a little more polished and optimized for even the older devices

DanHibiki

09-19-2013, 08:09 PM

I know what you mean and I think thats why non iphone 5s and 5c devices feel slower on the new ios. You'd think Apple would create speed optimizations for all of their supported devices.

The only positive to ios 7 to me is the prettiness factor.

My ipod definitely feels a tad slower compared to ios 6.

I really hope they release an update soon that's a little more polished and optimized for even the older devices

It's weird because everything else seems just fine. It really feels like a poorly coded software issue and not a software/hardware issue.

And isn't the 5C the exact same as the 5? Specs wise?

SkinnyPupp

09-19-2013, 08:16 PM

Animations are definitely janky on the ipad 2.. it actually looks funny because sometimes some components travel faster than others. It also turns on and off with a 0.3-0.5 second lag each time which is kind of annoying.

Apps themselves seem the same though, but the already laggy app switching was just been made worse.. I guess we're supposed to upgrade our hardware as soon as they are all 64 bit! ;)

!Yaminashi

09-19-2013, 08:18 PM

It's weird because everything else seems just fine. It really feels like a poorly coded software issue and not a software/hardware issue.

And isn't the 5C the exact same as the 5? Specs wise?

I honestly have no idea what the specs on the 5s and 5c are.
But I'm guessing Apple optimized ios 7 to be perfect on the new devices, forcing people to upgrade.

rice cooker

09-19-2013, 08:21 PM

so many things to complain about fuuuuuuuuuu

the scroll down spot search is annoying
extra animated frames is irritating
the big fucking rectangle dock at the bottom is so gay

!Yaminashi

09-19-2013, 08:22 PM

the big fucking rectangle dock at the bottom is so gay

^That is my biggest complaint next to the slow downs
Is there any sort of feedback page where people can make suggestions for ios 7.x directly to apple?

SkinnyPupp

09-19-2013, 09:37 PM

There are a lot of really sketchy spy settings enabled by default in iOS 7.. if you upgraded you will want to go through and disable them:

Four privacy settings you should enable in iOS 7 immediately | ZDNet (http://www.zdnet.com/four-privacy-settings-you-should-enable-in-ios-7-immediately-7000020902/)

SkinnyPupp

09-19-2013, 09:53 PM

^That is my biggest complaint next to the slow downs
Is there any sort of feedback page where people can make suggestions for ios 7.x directly to apple?
Apple - iPhone - Feedback (http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html)

While you're at it, complain about the STUPID fade in animation when you turn the phone on.

VK79

09-19-2013, 09:58 PM

Updated a few of my devices and so far the only issue I have (which is a rather pressing one) is the fact that my bloody folders on my iPad are all now 3x3.

Seriously? So much wasted real estate. I know its to give the feeling of "zooming in" into the folder but 9 icons on a ~10 inch screen is outright idiotic and inefficient use of space.

The new launcher bar is a nice touch, quick access to BT/Plane/Sleep etc etc is very handy. Photos app is much improved and finally Newsstand can be placed in my "usless shit" folder.

SkinnyPupp

09-19-2013, 10:12 PM

If you have anything older than iphone 5 or ipad 3, you will want to go to Settings > Accessibility > Reduce Motion and enable that setting. It gets rid of the effect where icons wobble when you move the phone around.

I disabled it on the iphone 5 anyway because not only does it waste resources and battery, it actually looks really stupid.

Akinari

09-19-2013, 10:18 PM

I've been hesitant to update my 4S to iOS7 because my iPad 1G is completely crippled due to it being upgraded to iOS 5.1.1 to the point where it is so slow it is simply not usable.

A few friends of mine have been using the 4S updated with iOS7 without any issues whatsoever though, and I did have a chance to use a 4S on iOS7 and it feels no different from iOS6 in terms of speed (and according to online reviews, though there have been notes on keyboard and lockscreen lag in very rare cases).

Thing is, my iPhone is locked to Rogers but I'm using a Gevey SIM and using it with Fido. I'll have to purchase a Gevey Ultra S to have it work with Fido...

Anyone with connections that can unlock my phone for cheaper than Rogers charges ($50) :badpokerface:

dangonay

09-19-2013, 10:26 PM

So it's being reported that iOS 7 employs multipath TCP.

Apple iOS 7 surprises as first with new multipath TCP connections - Network World (http://www.networkworld.com/news/2013/091913-ios7-multipath-273995.html)

Apparently only being used with Siri right now, but hopefully they'll expand it to include the rest of iOS and third party Apps.

Nabatron

09-19-2013, 10:27 PM

wife updated her 4S to ios7 and no issues she likes it and I like it myself on my iphone5 really refreshing to see...

SkinnyPupp

09-19-2013, 10:28 PM

SkinnyPupp

09-21-2013, 06:38 AM

Most important update of iOS7

http://i.imgur.com/i4JOswL.jpg

Hehe

09-21-2013, 07:49 AM

Hey, new dictionary! :lawl:

LiquidTurbo

09-21-2013, 09:44 AM

It's a ducking miracle!
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LiquidTurbo

09-21-2013, 09:47 AM

SkinnyPupp

09-21-2013, 04:35 PM

How much battery is actually saved? I would think a negligible amount ?
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You'd have to test it.. it could be negligible. Personally I turn it off because it looks dumb with it on. In any case, it's pointless

Gucci Mane

09-21-2013, 05:39 PM

^ you were right about that though skinny. it definitely made my phone a little less slow. this is a 4s by the way. battery savings i could care less about, its always been good on this phone.

Iceman_2K

09-21-2013, 08:27 PM

Should just have a friend call Rogers for you to get it unlocked. If it's been used on the Rogers network for at least 3 months then it should be good to be unlocked.

I've been hesitant to update my 4S to iOS7 because my iPad 1G is completely crippled due to it being upgraded to iOS 5.1.1 to the point where it is so slow it is simply not usable.

A few friends of mine have been using the 4S updated with iOS7 without any issues whatsoever though, and I did have a chance to use a 4S on iOS7 and it feels no different from iOS6 in terms of speed (and according to online reviews, though there have been notes on keyboard and lockscreen lag in very rare cases).

Thing is, my iPhone is locked to Rogers but I'm using a Gevey SIM and using it with Fido. I'll have to purchase a Gevey Ultra S to have it work with Fido...

Anyone with connections that can unlock my phone for cheaper than Rogers charges ($50) :badpokerface:

LiquidTurbo

09-22-2013, 01:17 AM

Pro-tip. To close apps, you can use 3 fingers and close 3 at a time.

teekaywok

09-22-2013, 02:29 AM

Anyone's weather widget not working in notification centre? It just says "weather and stock information provided by Yahoo"

OriginalJC

09-22-2013, 10:48 AM

Anyone's weather widget not working in notification centre? It just says "weather and stock information provided by Yahoo"

Turn the weather on under Privacy>Location Services

v_tec

09-22-2013, 08:55 PM

http://i.imgur.com/S1Lir8d.jpg

silva95teg

09-22-2013, 09:28 PM

Does anyone with an iPhone 5 think it sounds different after the update?

LiquidTurbo

09-22-2013, 09:30 PM

Does anyone with an iPhone 5 think it sounds different after the update?

Yes, all the sounds got updated. You can still access the old sounds, they are in a 'classics' folder.

Gucci Mane

09-22-2013, 09:39 PM

Does anyone with an iPhone 5 think it sounds different after the update?

:rukidding:

nabs

09-22-2013, 09:46 PM

with this update.. i feel like this is the phone i should have gotten at the launch of iPhone 5.

LiquidTurbo

09-22-2013, 09:48 PM

with this update.. i feel like this is the phone i should have gotten at the launch of iPhone 5.

Yeah exactly. I'm going to forgo the 5s and just pretend I have a new phone because this new update is pretty nice.

Can't wait to see the iPhone6. Probably a good chance a larger screen will be available.

silva95teg

09-22-2013, 10:06 PM

Yes, all the sounds got updated. You can still access the old sounds, they are in a 'classics' folder.

I am not referring to the new sounds... I am referring to the same sounds that I had set now sound different. Email sounds tinny, music doesn't seem to go as loud and the new tones all seem pretty quiet. Even the lock sound seems different to me.

LiquidTurbo

09-22-2013, 10:31 PM

I am not referring to the new sounds... I am referring to the same sounds that I had set now sound different. Email sounds tinny, music doesn't seem to go as loud and the new tones all seem pretty quiet. Even the lock sound seems different to me.

Yeah the tri-tone sounds different to me. They got remastered. Whatever that means.

MTV Cribs

09-25-2013, 04:49 PM

Since updating to ios 7, my battery drain was a lot. I always restore as a new phone and never from a backup for major updates. Anyways after about 7 battery cycles (charged to 100% and leave it plugged in for additional 5 hours and then drain till it turns off) , the battery life is back to normal now for the last 2 days.
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SkinnyPupp

09-25-2013, 05:18 PM

Yeah I noticed the battery drains a lot on the ipad 2 at idle... I disabled background updates but that didn't really help.

Also the poor performance is starting to get to me.

No turning back I guess, but this kind of sucks.

!MiKrofT

09-25-2013, 07:38 PM

Yeah worse battery life and slower performance. Good thing this is only my work phone.

Acura604

09-27-2013, 11:48 AM

really? LOL :ilied:

http://i.imgur.com/bNGndqh.jpg

!Aznboi128

09-27-2013, 12:00 PM

^ :suspicious: not even the right font

I'm getting better battery life and performance on my iPhone 5, and opposite on my iPad 3rd gen

lilaznviper

09-27-2013, 02:12 PM

had serveral people at work update to IOS 7 on their iphone 4 and 4s ... got some people complaining of how slow it became. Since there is no going back i guess new phones for everyone now :fullofwin:

sonick

09-27-2013, 02:16 PM

:joy:

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/a5dn8dL_700b_v4.jpg

Groot

09-27-2013, 03:34 PM

JKam

09-27-2013, 03:42 PM

guess i will not be updating my 4S anytime soon..

my 4s is perfectly fine. Just lags once in a while for apps that haven't optimized for ios7.

inv4zn

09-27-2013, 04:28 PM

My girlfriend's 4S is fine - she's happy with it
My sister's 4 is slower than two snails racing through peanut butter - i hear her screaming on a regular basis now.

SkinnyPupp

09-27-2013, 05:06 PM

Apparently iOS 7 is buggy on all ipads, not just slower ones like the ipad 2. All the lag and battery drain isn't due to the hardware being too slow, so it is fixable. And this also means it is fine on the 4S.

jtrinh

09-27-2013, 06:18 PM

Took me a few "Restores" to finally get iOS7 running.

iOS7 on my iphone4 runs fine. Faster than jailbroken 6.1.2. Battery life is the same as well.

Nabatron

09-27-2013, 06:39 PM

mine is trash after i updated on my iphone5

!Yaminashi

09-27-2013, 07:23 PM

Hopefully they optimize it properly for the next update.

I'm thinking they rushed to release it when they announced the 5S and 5C.

VK79

09-27-2013, 10:29 PM

Discovered a bug in the music player.

Searching for a song in the Music App by Artists crashes the app (I discovered about 20+ songs so far). However, searching for the SAME SONG by Album or Genres does not!

This only happens on iPad 2/3 & iPad Mini, searching for the same song (All my music lib syncs from the same iTunes on my Mac) by Artists on iPhone 4/4s, iTouch 5 works with no problems.

Kinda shocked that Apple actually allowed such an obvious/major bug to go live. Guess not many ppl play/stream/AirPlay their music using iPads during the Beta testings?

DJ Milk

09-28-2013, 12:40 AM

I found many crashing bugs with ios7 that I can't remember them anymore.

I don't know if this is a bug but it annoys me is the messages app. If I clear the conversation and the contact is still in there for quick access to message and I turn the phone off or reboot it, the time stamp for all the contacts where the conversation is cleared all have the same time and is displayed at the top of the list instead of at the bottom like ios6. The time changes everytime I reboot the phone.

The picture shows what I mean. I blanked out the names. I reboot at 1:44am so all the contacts where the conversations has been cleared it's all time stamped 1:44am and is display at the top. So now instead of clearing the whole conversation, I just leave one message in there so the last person I messaged will be displayed at the top.
http://oi43.tinypic.com/4jx0ex.jpg

Also I don't know if it's supposed to be like this but in the photo app, the album pictures has 2 lines at the top of each picture that is distorted. It doesn't look right
http://oi44.tinypic.com/3539tns.jpg

Ikkaku

09-28-2013, 12:20 PM

occasionally when I swipe my lock screen the opposite way, the background changes to my homescreen lol

Both me and my friend who uses the iphone 5 came to the conclusion that our battery life seems to have improved a tad.

DJ Milk

09-30-2013, 02:11 PM

Sometimes when scrolling in an app, the scrolling freezes and doesn't respond. The only thing that works is the back button. After that the scrolling works again.

370z370z

09-30-2013, 03:25 PM

iOS7 gives me a headache looking at the animations

sonick

09-30-2013, 03:26 PM

iOS7 gives me a headache looking at the animations

lol I was reading online people were complaining of motion sickness with the new ios7 animations.

DanHibiki

10-23-2013, 04:12 PM

New 7.0.3 update. They got rid of the zooming out animation to make things speedier. In general everything feels faster.
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kcl38

10-23-2013, 05:35 PM

Anyone know if its possible to get an AT&T phone unlocked up here? Any reputable websites?

rice cooker

10-23-2013, 10:07 PM

The zooming in/out is still there
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SkinnyPupp

10-23-2013, 10:21 PM

They updated the podcast app, unfortunately it's pretty much just cosmetic. It still won't download from password protected sites (even though itunes does)

mos_skeeto

10-23-2013, 10:24 PM

The zooming in/out can be disabled when you go in accessibility settings.

Anjew

10-24-2013, 12:24 AM

its fine on the 4s with the bells and whistles turned off but still slow on the 4. ipad 3 reminds me of android at times but the ipad 4 was perfectly snappy.

Acura604

10-24-2013, 08:22 AM

i think with the new .3 update, my ipad3 and iphone5 is a lot more snappier.. I love it ! ! !

Akinari

10-25-2013, 04:50 PM

SkinnyPupp

10-25-2013, 05:09 PM

That 'other' is icloud waiting to be uploaded. It's stupid, and the reason I have to turn icloud off

DJ Milk

10-25-2013, 06:21 PM

Upgraded to iOS7 on my 4S, and my "Other" shot to 9.17GB. Nothing I did would make it reduce in size, had to do a full new phone restore :okay: Seriously don't understand how hard it could be for Apple to fix this issue that's been going on since the first iOS.

I always have my iCloud turned off and one day I noticed my free space which should normally be 12gb drop to 5gb for no reason. I was about to restore my phone but decided to try an app called iClean (https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/iclean-remove-clean-all-deleted/id661800424?mt=8). It got back my free space to what it should be but it was only able to get back about 1gb at a time. I had to run the app many times but it worked.

!Yaminashi

10-25-2013, 08:23 PM

I'm liking the new speed on 7.0.3. Those dumb zoom animations were useless
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dangonay

10-27-2013, 08:23 AM

Looks like 64bit isn't the "gimmick" all the uneducated naysayers were claiming it was.

Several developers have already created 64bit versions of their Apps, and many have added new features that were not possible on the iPhone 5/iOS 6 because the performance simply wasn't there. Moreover, developers have been able to take 64bit code directly from their Mac Apps and port it over to the 5S/iOS 7, bringing additional desktop features to mobile devices.

This is a bigger deal than most people think. Although we take many features on our PC's for granted (the ability to edit photos/video or do 3D animation) many seem to forget that this capability was once reserved for high-end workstations by companies like Silicon Graphics. This is how it's always been in the computer world - as technology gets better and our PC's get faster, software that was once the domain of mainframes or minis has trickled down to the PC. We are now seeing this with mobile devices (phones/tablets).

Apple making a 64bit processor and OS is going to accelerate this on iPhones and iPads since developers can share a 64bit codebase between the Mac and iOS. Developers who have spent time creating and optimizing 64bit code to perform various high-end functions on the Mac are now going to be able to bring some of those over to iOS devices.

I predict Microsoft is going to quickly follow this path as well (64bit Windows Phone). With the huge number of programs running on Windows, developers have a massive resource of code/features they can also port to WP.

Apple and Microsoft are the only two companies who can really make a smooth transition in bringing powerful desktop features to mobile devices. Everyone else is pretty much left out. I'm just wondering how long it will take MS to release 64bit WP.

LiquidTurbo

10-27-2013, 11:55 AM

this whole pro to 64bit is probably in anticiptation of an iPad "pro", thats like 13", and a true answer to the laptop. It will be able to run desktop class apps.

Akinari

10-27-2013, 06:45 PM

That 'other' is icloud waiting to be uploaded. It's stupid, and the reason I have to turn icloud off

I always have my iCloud turned off and one day I noticed my free space which should normally be 12gb drop to 5gb for no reason. I was about to restore my phone but decided to try an app called iClean (https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/iclean-remove-clean-all-deleted/id661800424?mt=8). It got back my free space to what it should be but it was only able to get back about 1gb at a time. I had to run the app many times but it worked.
Restored it twice, and restored from back-up after the second clean restore and the "Other" is now only ~760mb :badpokerface: even lower than it was when I was using iOS6.1.3

Now I have absolutely no need to upgrade to the 5s, until the 6 comes out with a larger screen.

SkinnyPupp

10-27-2013, 06:52 PM

this whole pro to 64bit is probably in anticiptation of an iPad "pro", thats like 13", and a true answer to the laptop. It will be able to run desktop class apps.
Unless Apple moves completely to ARM, or develops a really good x86 chip, that'll never happen

BTW the 64 bit Exynos is ready, and will be in the next Galaxy phone

dangonay

10-27-2013, 10:22 PM

this whole pro to 64bit is probably in anticiptation of an iPad "pro", thats like 13", and a true answer to the laptop. It will be able to run desktop class apps.
Tim Cook said (rightly so) that iOS and Mac OS will not be merged. This makes sense as the paradigms for a touch device and traditional PC are significantly different.

I doubt we'll see Photoshop on an iPad. But I can see Adobe making a "lite" version. And by "lite" I mean that it's a subset of all the features of Photoshop, not that the features themselves are lower quality versions. This will be possible as Adobe can take their existing 64bit highly optimized and fine tuned algorithms and bring them straight over to iOS virtually unchanged.

So to slightly reword your post, I think it's safe to say we'll see Apps with desktop class features, not the entire desktop App itself.

Unless Apple moves completely to ARM, or develops a really good x86 chip, that'll never happen

BTW the 64 bit Exynos is ready, and will be in the next Galaxy phone
Don't need to. What many people don't realize is that Apple made iOS 7 to have the same application binary interface (ABI) as Mac OS. For people who don't understand that term, it basically means that if two operating systems have the same ABI then an App compiled to run on one should also run on the other.

This is possible because Apple's implementation of ARMv8 is slightly different from ARM's standard specification. Clearly Apple has thought way ahead when they designed the A7 in order to allow developers to easily code for both iOS and Mac OS, and to start bringing features (by way of existing code) down to iOS.

As to a 64bit Exynos, the chip might be ready but what OS will it run? Just like there are numerous bloggers intent on minimizing the significance of the A7 and Apple's move to 64bit there are also numerous bloggers claiming that Android can be converted to 64bit virtually "overnight" and that making a 64bit DalvikVM will benefit all existing Apps. It's not going to be nearly that easy or "clean".

And unlike iOS or WP (who have "parents" in Mac OS and Windows), there's no huge library of 64bit software developers can call on to start bringing desktop class features to Android Apps. Nobody's coding Photoshop (or similar high-end software) in Java.

Mr.HappySilp

10-27-2013, 10:33 PM

Tim Cook said (rightly so) that iOS and Mac OS will not be merged. This makes sense as the paradigms for a touch device and traditional PC are significantly different.
.
Agree! Just look at Win 8 and all the negative feedback it have. Win 8 is good on a tablet/cell phone but not on a PC. I actually downgrade my laptop which had Win8 install to Win7. Took a long time to get all the drivers but is well worth the time.

rice cooker

03-20-2014, 08:47 PM

Anyone else find the swipe down search annoying as fuck
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Mr.HappySilp

03-20-2014, 10:35 PM

Unless Apple moves completely to ARM, or develops a really good x86 chip, that'll never happen

BTW the 64 bit Exynos is ready, and will be in the next Galaxy phone

Next Galaxy phone as in S5 high end version or the Note 4? Just curious because the S5 isn't really all the impressive.

Not sure if it is the phone or android 4.3 but when I am using wechat and other messages at the same time my Z1 lag like crazy and drains battery too. Phone was sitting at 70% and down 22% in a few hours..... switch back to iphone 5s and no issue like this at all........

My other friend who also message a lot had the same issue with her 4s.

Ikkaku

03-20-2014, 11:03 PM

wechat drains my battery pretty quickly as well, using the iphone 5. Feels like it uses more power than whatsapp.

No lag though.

LiquidTurbo

03-21-2014, 06:18 AM

Can someone explain how the change in green of the icons in iOS7.1 makes a meaningful difference? haha Geez.

SkinnyPupp

03-21-2014, 07:21 AM

I was having major performance issues with 7, and bad battery drain. I tried a full wipe and restore, but that didnt' fix it. This time I tried a wipe and start from scratch, reinstalling apps. Performance was fixed, but it still drains 10-15% battery a day, and I only use it about 30-60 mins a day. 7.1 didn't fix this either :(

It is connected to wifi on idle, and checking email.. if that is draining the battery that much, wow

Hakkaboy

03-26-2014, 11:33 AM

Is there a way for the default Mail app to automatically download full versions of HTML emails?

5S on IOS 7.1

Some of my work emails are showing up as plain text when it should be HTML and it's really really annoying to scroll all the way to the bottom and pressing the "Download full page"

ps. Lack of a notification LED is one of the stupidest oversights in today's day and age. Not sure why anyone would want to use an iPhone as a work phone (or personal phone) without one

Iceman_2K

03-26-2014, 08:39 PM

You can use the flash as a notification light. Its in the settings.

Hakkaboy

03-26-2014, 09:46 PM

^yes but that's only one and done. If you miss it you do not see it. You have to constantly press the home button to turn on the screen to see if you have any notifications or not

Unlike Blackberries and most Android phones where there is a light that beeps every few seconds letting you have a message/email/text/push notification waiting

You can even set different colours LEDs depending on what type of notification

!Aznboi128

03-26-2014, 09:55 PM

iirc notification light keeps blinking as long as you don't turn cancel the notification

Hakkaboy

03-27-2014, 01:39 PM

Ikkaku

03-27-2014, 03:14 PM

if you're so unhappy with it, sell it and get a nexus 5 and be done with it.

!Aznboi128

03-27-2014, 04:11 PM

Unfortunately i have not found a setting for it, only for it to use the flash led when the notification comes in. At least not Jailbroken, anyways.

And even if there is some sort of JB hack, it's on the wrong side anyways so you would have to leave the phone face down at all times. Bottom line is no front led notification light is a major oversight.

Don't even get me started on the lack of numbers/symbols on the keyboard w/o toggling. Wow. I knew that not being able to change the KB on IOS is a limitation versus other phones, but I didn't know it was that limited...
it sounds like the iPhone isn't for you.

There are plenty of other devices I would suggest you to choose from, maybe a Blackberry since you love the notification light and the fact that Blackberry has a physical keyboard might appeal to you more.

I think a lot of iPhone/iOS users are more then happy with a simple notification. I myself have a pebble so I can check notification whenever I want with out touching my phone.

Hakkaboy

03-27-2014, 04:33 PM

Yeah, you're right. An iPhone is not for me. Unfortunately this is a work phone. I have Note 2 as my personal phone and have gone thru 3 other Android phones (including Nexus 5). Only my first Android phone (original Galaxy S) from 3 1/2 years ago didn't have a notification light, which is why i'm surprised the latest 5S does not have it.

As for Blackerries, yeah have used 4 different ones for work in the past 5+ years and they finally kicked us off BB's. Too bad they didn't really give the OS10 a chance.

I do find that the predictive text (and swype capability) on the Swiftkey (keyboard) on my Android phones work quite well tho

And lastly, a smartwatch is definitely on my "to buy" list. Just waiting on the moto 360

Anyways sorry for the rant, back to my original question. Is there a way to enable auto-download full HTML messages for emails? TIA