[afro521]

my lease is up in 2 weeks, would like to take the car out to do what its good for, off-road

any local noob friendly route suggestions? preferably day trip

thank you

[bcrdukes]

This forum may have some quick answers:

4x4's and the Great outdoors - Vancouver's Top Classifieds and Automotive Forum - REVscene.net (http://www.revscene.net/forums/4x4s-great-outdoors_226/)

Edit: Okay, maybe not. Too soon, bcr.

[yray]

inb4 bmw suv

[murd0c]

Harrison west to Pemberton FSR is prob the best and easiest road to take it on for more of an adventure.

[T4RAWR]

what are you driving? :suspicious:

[stewie]

stave lake mud flats :ilied:

[Phil@rise]

have you ever taken it off road?

[afro521]

have you ever taken it off road?
nope first time

what are you driving? :suspicious:
2011 range rover sport with stock wheels

Harrison west to Pemberton FSR is prob the best and easiest road to take it on for more of an adventure.
thank you,
From Vancouver, take Highway 7 to Harrison Mills. Turn left onto Morris Valley Road and turn left again onto West Harrison Forest Service Road
is this the one?

[Phil@rise]

are you giving it back after the lease? the reason I ask is why did you wait so long to enjoy it.

[The_AK]

triangle road in richmond behind silvercity lol...

[afro521]

stave lake mud flats :ilied:
that looks fun, but seems easy to get stuck? will be going solo

are you giving it back after the lease? the reason I ask is why did you wait so long to enjoy it.
yes giving it back, no reason really...never too late!

[stewie]

that looks fun, but seems easy to get stuck? will be going solo


yes giving it back, no reason really...never too late!

if you go to stave, make sure you have a few tow straps so others can pull you out when you get stuck...might also want to consider bringing some cash up as well as a "thank you" for pulling you out (cash or beer works), cause a tow truck to come up there and pull you out will cost you hundreds of dollars.

[T4RAWR]

i dont recommend stave. i dont think hes going to be buying recovery straps and equipment for a one time deal. theres a good chance hes going to destroy his range rover at stave and all the rednecks will be laughing at him. plus he'll have to pay a fuck load in "reconditioning" costs if he wrecks it before returning it on lease.

if you'd like to go "off-road" and for a nice cruise with the girlfriend you should hit up east side of harrison lake.

the road starts here: http://goo.gl/maps/jMTdO

when you get to the fork take the left side, that will be harrison east forest service road.

you could easily get out to cogburn beach with your range rover although i dont recommend going past silver river (you'll know you're at silver river when you pass the large logging station) as the road gets pretty rough and i'm not really sure you want to risk it especially going solo.

make sure you take some spare clothes, water, food, etc. theres plenty of traffic on that road, especially on weekends so i doubt you'll have any trouble if you get stuck or break down but its always good to be prepared to spend a night out should something go wrong. theres no cellphone reception out there so be mindful of that and leave a trip plan with a family member letting them know when you'll be back.

drive slow and use your gears instead of riding the brakes. theres active logging on the road during weekdays so watch out for logging trucks.

have fun and take lots of pictures. maybe this little trip will inspire you to get something a bit more off road capable for your next suv. maybe a land rover LR4 or a lexus gx460 if you plan on sticking with luxury vehicles

:fullofwin:

[tonyvu]

take your truck up to Harrison. Sasquatch provincial park logging road is a pretty good one for off roading

[godwin]

For a first timer, stick with roads that are on a mapbook.. NOT JUST GOOGLE MAP! Rely on a mapbook you can buy at the grocery store. Mapped road = ICBC covers you if things go bad, unmapped trails you are on your own and leasing company would come after you.

If you are a typical leaser who don't really care much about their cars.. your tires are probably tired. I would suggest you just stick with flat tops for the next 2 weeks.

It is all fun and games until things go bad.

[T4RAWR]

harrison east is graded reasonably well and he'd make it through with highway tires no problem.

he can pick up a copy of the backroads map book at canadian tire or london drugs which has all the routes that are mentioned in it.

you need atleast $200,000 third party liability insurance in order to travel on forest service roads regardless of what vehicle you take.

harrison east is pretty tame, i've seen people bring civics up to cogburn beach although they did drive pretty damn slow and had to pull over for the trucks passing them.

[Phil@rise]

bc back roads books

[Phil@rise]

harrison east is graded reasonably well and he'd make it through with highway tires no problem.

he can pick up a copy of the backroads map book at canadian tire or london drugs which has all the routes that are mentioned in it.

you need atleast $200,000 third party liability insurance in order to travel on forest service roads regardless of what vehicle you take.

harrison east is pretty tame, i've seen people bring civics up to cogburn beach although they did drive pretty damn slow and had to pull over for the trucks passing them.

Um any current plated vehicle has liability $200000 is the minimum

[RRxtar]

do whipsaw

[murd0c]

do whipsaw

going there send out Sep for a stag, going to be a fricken gong show :drunk:

[dangonay]

Bad idea IMO. Done a lot of off-roading over the years and you don't want to go out if you have no experience or equipment to help you if you get in a bind. And this close to your lease expiring? Last thing you need is to break something expensive because something happened off-road that you weren't expecting.

If you stick to the easy roads where you're not going to have any problems then you're not really off-roading. If you attempt a challenging route then you're taking a big risk. You should have tried this early on in your lease, starting with some easy routes and going with a few buddies until you get a feel for it. Off-roading is far more than having a good vehicle - you need to know what you're doing.

I would compare off-roading to weekend track racing - you need to start slow and practice. Taking an SUV off-roading just before your lease is up is like buying a 911 and tracking it just before you return it. Sorry, I just don't see the point.

[Soundy]

Honestly... go with a group. Not just for safety, but it's more fun that way. There are lots of places that can provide some excitement and great views with just a little challenge and not much chance of damaging your ride - West Stave/Pemberton for a longer trek, Britannia Mines (not the museum) for a bunch of history, Elaho... go up to the end of Florence Lake FSR along west Stave for some cool views, but do it on a weekday when the weekend warriors aren't overrunning the place.

Tag along with some experienced guys who can show you the way and help you out if you run into any trouble. The 4x4s forum is a better place to ask, there are always guys willing to ride out for some quick wheeling.

[T4RAWR]

Um any current plated vehicle has liability $200000 is the minimum

my bad,

i remember $200,000 being the magic minimum number for all vehicles including atvs and dirt bikes for use on FSRs.

if the min is $2,000,000 on plated vehicles then OP should be good to go.

[afro521]

thanks for the great tips and suggestions guys!
will def start easy to have a taste of off-roading

waiting for new car to arrive in oct, full size range rover, so figure this would be a good start to get some runs in during the dry season

[yray]

just go to triangle, at least you can walk back to cineplex for help

[Soundy]

just go to triangle, at least you can walk back to cineplex for help

Yeah, I can see that playing out...

You get stuck in a mud pit, you get all covered trying to free yourself... you go trudging over to Silver City where a horror movie is just letting out, and the moviegoers just see this coming toward them...

http://store.samhainpublishing.com/product_images/SwampMonsterMassacre72lg.jpg

[T4RAWR]

thanks for the great tips and suggestions guys!
will def start easy to have a taste of off-roading

waiting for new car to arrive in oct, full size range rover, so figure this would be a good start to get some runs in during the dry season

i dont think a full size range rover is exactly going to be a good off roader :pokerface:

[Soundy]

http://sp0.fotolog.com/photo/48/59/61/str33t_virtua1/1252617730622_f.jpg

http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/attachments/f26/3990d1240594310-pics-lifted-sds-postm-up-img_1694-medium-.jpg

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachments/land-rover/511992d1270003357-post-pic-your-rover-img_1201.jpg

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/3569/4401/21422200033_large.jpg

[T4RAWR]

the older full size ones i can understand, but the brand new ones?

they're built and designed for street use first and foremost. i'm sure if you spent enough money and time on something it'll become off road worthy but i dont think OP is going to be doing that as I'm assuming its going to be another lease and not a purchase.


the first and second gen range rogers did come with off road capability in mind but the 3rd and current ones are basically designed as luxo-grocery getters.


OP could do well to find a 1996 (end of the 1st gen) range rover and turn it into a proper off roader if he so chooses.

or opt for a new LR4 which still retains its off road pedigree.


or he could opt for one of the many other luxury vehicles out there that are off road capable with little modification.

[murd0c]

It's a good truck to hit up a FSR and bomb around in. Keep it on the easy trails just for fun since the OP is a n00b and doesn't want to wreck anything.

[Soundy]

Yeah, that's the thing... I keep seeing assumptions that everyone who wants to go off-road must want to be able to run Rubicon and thus must naturally need an uber-built-up rig. Personally, I'm having plenty of fun in my bone-stock YJ and just learning proper technique, for now. Eventually I'll probably look at some low-key mods to improve the experience, but I'm not rushing out to crawl the face of The Chief or anything.

[murd0c]

Yeah, that's the thing... I keep seeing assumptions that everyone who wants to go off-road must want to be able to run Rubicon and thus must naturally need an uber-built-up rig. Personally, I'm having plenty of fun in my bone-stock YJ and just learning proper technique, for now. Eventually I'll probably look at some low-key mods to improve the experience, but I'm not rushing out to crawl the face of The Chief or anything.

exactly, going off road doesn't mean extreme wheeling like some are used to (including myself) just go on a well groomed gravel road and check out the site and views and maybe have a bbq half way through. I really enjoy just hitting up a FSR for the fun of it and not having to worry if I'm going to cave in a door or pop a tire.

[T4RAWR]

i too enjoy cruising FSRs but once in a while its fun to hit a side trail thats a bit more challenging.


:okay:

[murd0c]

i too enjoy cruising FSRs but once in a while its fun to hit a side trail thats a bit more challenging.


:okay:

If you haven't done it before do the Harrison east to Boston Bar run, super fun and great views with lots of side trails to mess around on.

[T4RAWR]

If you haven't done it before do the Harrison east to Boston Bar run, super fun and great views with lots of side trails to mess around on.

done it.

tried to cross a 12 foot wide washout with make shift log bridges up kookapi and got stuck bad.

suburban snapped front u-joint trying to yank me out and my buddy's 3rd gen didnt have to power to do it.

had to get winched out :okay:

[murd0c]

sounds like a good day of wheeling to me!!

[R&R]

let's do a group run to cogburn!?
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[Phil@rise]

going there send out Sep for a stag, going to be a fricken gong show :drunk:

Woot Cant wait!!

[Phil@rise]

Yeah, that's the thing... I keep seeing assumptions that everyone who wants to go off-road must want to be able to run Rubicon and thus must naturally need an uber-built-up rig. Personally, I'm having plenty of fun in my bone-stock YJ and just learning proper technique, for now. Eventually I'll probably look at some low-key mods to improve the experience, but I'm not rushing out to crawl the face of The Chief or anything.

the most fun can quite often be found in a stock truck. If your up for a challenge. I got a pretty built jeep and it makes some trails just boring easy compared to the fun I used to have. That means more challenging trails sure but then I'm not wheelin with alot of the friends I used to

[godwin]

Princess Auto has 7500lb recovery straps for 7 bucks.. They are part of my tool kits along with a few D rings and rags. You put rags on top of metal components when you tow, so crap don't fly off as far (usually it will hit the rag and fall on the ground) if things go south.

It is always good to practice using these things even when you are just at your driveway.

[saveth]

That's perfect for a car but I question if its strong enough to pull out my pathfinder.
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[murd0c]

Woot Cant wait!!

You telling me, can't fricken wait either

[T4RAWR]

Princess Auto has 7500lb recovery straps for 7 bucks.. They are part of my tool kits along with a few D rings and rags. You put rags on top of metal components when you tow, so crap don't fly off as far (usually it will hit the rag and fall on the ground) if things go south.

It is always good to practice using these things even when you are just at your driveway.

That's perfect for a car but I question if its strong enough to pull out my pathfinder.
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general rule of thumb that i was taught is to get a recovery strap thats rated at 3 times the weight of your vehicle.

my truck weighs 4500-5000lbs so i opted for 15000lbs straps and they havent failed me so far. pulled lots of cars and trucks out of stucks with it and its been great.

make sure you buy a RECOVERY strap and not a TOW strap if you do plan on picking them up.

make sure its the one with loops sewn in and no metal parts on the strap what so ever like ratchets or hooks.

some heavy duty shackles in various sizes can also be found at princess auto.

[murd0c]

DO NOT trust the straps from PA, They are good if you have nothing but are cheap shit and will snap.

[T4RAWR]

DO NOT trust the straps from PA, They are good if you have nothing but are cheap shit and will snap.

they're not too too bad. i've used mine plenty of times and its worked great for the times ive needed it.

always best to ride with someone who has a winch though :fullofwin:

[Soundy]

I picked up some nice 10,000 hooks with safety clips, $7.95 on sale at KMS.

There's one guy on BC Jeep Club who's been a heavy crane operator for 20+ years and now sells offroad recovery gear on the side... we've done a couple "newby" runs lately that he's come along and done winching and recovery demos. It's been some really good learning, and he has a great handle on what's good gear and what's sketchy (has to - the stuff he deals with for work is rated 100x what you'd use with your 4x4).

Highly recommend signing up at bcjeepclub.ca and watching for the next Newby Run to get in on his little seminars :) Also check out his thread here (login required) (http://www.bcjeepclub.ca/index.php?topic=27132.0) - tell him I sent ya. :D