[shenmecar]

TELUS is transitioning to a model of two-year contracts along with the rest of the Canadian market, and is set to increase monthly prices accordingly when the changes take effect at the end of the month.

Specifically, TELUS will be separating its voice-and-text from its data pool charges as a way to more clearly delineate between parts of the business that are revenue positive (the latter) and revenue neutral (the former).

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Dubbed SharePlus, the company has broken down the base price into five categories: Smartphone, Smartphone Lite, BYOD-SIM-only (bring your own device), Tablet, and Tablet BYOD. All voice portions include unlimited nationwide talk and text, and include voicemail, call display and call waiting.

Once selected, the individual or family will then choose to add a certain amount of data from the pool, for single use or to be shared with up to five devices on the same account. The range spans $15 for 250MB to $100 for 6GB and $150 for 10GB. The base price of a typical high data-need smartphone user who purchases a new iPhone 5 with a 6GB plan will increase from $100 today to $155 on July 30th, when the plans go into effect.

While the second part of the equation — revised subsidy costs on the smartphones themselves — have not been revealed, it appears that monthly prices for the majority of users will be increasing, especially for those with higher data needs. Because the company doesn’t mention hardware pricing in the press release, we’re under the assumption that they will remain unchanged for the time being, and the trend towards increased prices on a two-year term will begin in the coming months.

TELUS is also incentivizing users to bring their own devices to their network by discounting $20 from the monthly voice-and-text price; there are no discounts for data, though, when choosing the BYOD option.

The company will also be introducing a new set of two-year plans for small businesses, some of which will offer built-in U.S. roaming.

If I'm understanding this correctly, the comparable Fido/Koodo/Virgin $60 plan is $90 at Telus (Smartphone lite + 2GB). It seems to me Telus will be the first one to ass rape new customers with a thorn bush with hot sauce as a lubricant. Will Rogers and Bell follow suit? Is this to show their resentment to the CRTC's new policies?

[Kilinim]

Seems very similar to US voice/data plans.
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[m3thods]

Yep, except some carriers have an "unlimited" higher-tier option. Even though there's throttling after some point, at least there's no overage with an unlimited plan.

[shenmecar]

Yep, except some carriers have an "unlimited" higher-tier option. Even though there's throttling after some point, at least there's no overage with an unlimited plan.

Sprint has a unlimited everything (including data) plan for $80. I'm not sure if it is throttled after a threshold though.

Telus is expensive once they move to the 2 year structure.

[Mr.HappySilp]

Wow that's really expensive! Currently paying fido $45 with unlimted Canada Voice mail call display and 2GB. The same package with Telus assuming I have my own phone $35 + $45 for 2GB of data my bill would be $80 almost 2x as much as I paid now.......

[FerrariEnzo]

BYOD-Sim only $35!!! So if you have your own phone, you get unlimited nationwide talk/text for $35/month! seems ok deal.. but bummer not deals on data!!

[mos_skeeto]

Makes me happy that I signed up on a 2 year Fido agreement with a free Nexus 4 and pay 39 bucks a month for 600mb.

[winson604]

Makes me paying $77 after taxes for a 6gb plan cheap now :okay:

[aphextwin]

when i was with telus, i was paying $56/month for...
-200min weekday
-weekend and evening from 6pm
-100mb

it was to help a buddy with his ACN commision, but it was also one of the worst decision ive ever made in my life.

[skiiipi]

If I'm understanding this correctly, the comparable Fido/Koodo/Virgin $60 plan is $90 at Telus (Smartphone lite + 2GB). It seems to me Telus will be the first one to ass rape new customers with a thorn bush with hot sauce as a lubricant. Will Rogers and Bell follow suit? Is this to show their resentment to the CRTC's new policies?

I think there is 2 ways for the companies to "ass-rape" their customers.
Option a) less subsidy on the phones on a 2yr contract..so $399.999-44.99 for a top tier $699.99 reg price phone on a 2 year year.
Option b) same subisdy as now, but a price hike on their plans..so if you want your Galaxy S4 for $149.99, your $60 plan will now be $90.
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[MarkyMark]

100 bucks for 6 gigs what a joke
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[Iceman-19]

I got my 6 gigs included in my plan. If they charge me 100 for that I'm out.

[Gtrr33]

well i am paying $58 tax in for my plan which includes 6gb data ulimited everything, 300 day, 5pm free and weekends. if they fuck with that im out too

[Mr.HappySilp]

They won't change your plan for now but if you want a new phone on a contract they will most likely froce you onto the new plans.

[saveth]

3 year contracts don't look that bad when compared to what they're planning on bringing in.
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[Neva]

Well that's the trap I think. They're going to make prices so ridiculous that people are going to demand three year contracts to come back.

[RacingMetro92]

Well that's the trap I think. They're going to make prices so ridiculous that people are going to demand three year contracts to come back.

I'm hoping the CRTC catches on to this bullshit if this is the case. The whole point was to help consumers with these new laws, and if providers are going to circumvent this by pulling this off, it isn't right.

I'm at $70 for 200 min, 6PM Ev/Wknd, unlimited text/picture messaging, CID/VM, 6GB data...looks cheap in comparison to this new structure.

[vitaminG]

I'm hoping the CRTC catches on to this bullshit if this is the case. The whole point was to help consumers with these new laws, and if providers are going to circumvent this by pulling this off, it isn't right.

I'm at $70 for 200 min, 6PM Ev/Wknd, unlimited text/picture messaging, CID/VM, 6GB data...looks cheap in comparison to this new structure.

CRTC's job isnt to enforce prices. I think the CRTC already overstepped by enacting 3 year max contracts. it was just a feel good move in response to complaints. Robellus shouldnt be forced to reduce their profits so this is what happens.

[MeowMeow]

I thought my $50 for 6gb data plan was shitty
after seeing this.... :fuckthatshit: thanks fido.

[StylinRed]

Wind...

[Psykopathik]

Wind...

werd.

[tiger_handheld]

Telus CEO calls for ‘level playing field’ if Verizon moves in (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/telus-ceo-urges-level-playing-field-for-wireless/article13300039/)



i lol'ed when I read it

[FerrariEnzo]

Telus CEO calls for ‘level playing field’ if Verizon moves in (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/telus-ceo-urges-level-playing-field-for-wireless/article13300039/)



i lol'ed when I read it
LOL where was this plea when Wind/Mobi/Public started up!! what a load of crap robelus is... did they go easy on the small 3... I dont think so..

[Iceman_2K]

Anyone paying more than $30 for 6 gigs of data is getting raped.

[Soundy]

I'm hoping the CRTC catches on to this bullshit if this is the case. The whole point was to help consumers with these new laws, and if providers are going to circumvent this by pulling this off, it isn't right.

Well, congratulations OpenMedia and all you "I want it all and I don't want to pay for it" whingers... you got what you asked for. Surely you didn't think the providers wouldn't find some other way to make up the shortfall?

Now you're all going to bitch and moan about this, and so the CRTC will step up and enforce some kind of cap on the plan fees... and next thing you know phones will be going for $1000, or a nice cheap $400 if you get a two-year contract, or some other way they can skate around the regulators.

Way to go, fuckers.

I'm at $70 for 200 min, 6PM Ev/Wknd, unlimited text/picture messaging, CID/VM, 6GB data...looks cheap in comparison to this new structure.
I got in on the "$15 unlimited data" deal Telus had years ago with their CDMA smartphones... had to give that up when I switched to GSM phone, but they did give me 6GB for $30. Also got in a nice promotional deal... oh, 7 or 8 years ago? $45/mo for 450 minutes, free weekends and evenings from 5pm to 7am, and unlimited talk and text to 10 favorites. Pretty happy with that deal.

CRTC's job isnt to enforce prices. I think the CRTC already overstepped by enacting 3 year max contracts. it was just a feel good move in response to complaints. Robellus shouldnt be forced to reduce their profits so this is what happens.

Been with Telus for over 15 years (since BC Tel had their "Big Flippin' Deal" promotion for a Motorola flip-phone) and been pretty happy with them over the years. Never had an issue with three-year contracts. People just get greedy, and now it's biting them in the ass.

[MarkyMark]

What happened to the days of yearly hardware upgrades so long as your contract was renewed every time you did it? We're the carriers just being super generous back then or what
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[StylinRed]

cousin switched from Wind to Bell because his phone has shitty reception he was always complaining about losing signal/disconnected calls in the same areas where my phone is perfectly fine so he switched to Bell and got a new phone to boot lol

anyway his monthly is like $65 with 2gb of data :heckno:

[Domani]

What happened to the days of yearly hardware upgrades so long as your contract was renewed every time you did it? We're the carriers just being super generous back then or what
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the days when decent phones only cost 300-450 bucks are long gone.

[terkan]

meh i'm glad i switched my rogers plan to the bc health corporate plan under my dad for 50bux.. it's 7.50 more than what i used to pay but at least i don't have to worry about discount shit wearing off.. so how does renewal work with the new 2yr structure now?? are they going to say oh in order to renew and get a new phone.. you must be on the new "2yrs" plan and the old grandfathered plan are no longer eligible??

[shenmecar]

heres Rogers' 2 year plans. wireless service is becoming unaffordable now.

http://mobilesyrup.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/rogers2-year.png

[Soundy]

heres Rogers' 2 year plans. wireless service is becoming unaffordable now.

http://mobilesyrup.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/rogers2-year.png

A wise man once said (a few messages up in this thread): "Well, congratulations OpenMedia and all you "I want it all and I don't want to pay for it" whingers... you got what you asked for. Surely you didn't think the providers wouldn't find some other way to make up the shortfall?"

[FerrariEnzo]

lol... I though with Verizon knocking on the doorstep, robelus would wise up.. but seems to be the opposite...

[StylinRed]

lol you gotta be kidding

well customers keep willing to go to them and pay their high fees so until that changes prices wont

[RacingMetro92]

It seems better to just sign up for a plan now rather than wait. I'm hoping that when my contract runs out, I can just buy a phone and go month to month with my current plan because that pricing is shit.

I'm also not an advocate of openmedia (I think they're way too leftist)...but I was hoping that robelus would try to offer better plans to keep customers from going to verizon if that deal goes through, obviously not though. I don't get how they can essentially double the 6gb plan that I have right now...but offer the exact same service.

It looks like the route of just buying phones outright is the way to go right now.

[FerrariEnzo]

It seems better to just sign up for a plan now rather than wait. I'm hoping that when my contract runs out, I can just buy a phone and go month to month with my current plan because that pricing is shit.

I'm also not an advocate of openmedia (I think they're way too leftist)...but I was hoping that robelus would try to offer better plans to keep customers from going to verizon if that deal goes through, obviously not though. I don't get how they can essentially double the 6gb plan that I have right now...but offer the exact same service.

It looks like the route of just buying phones outright is the way to go right now.
they are probably trying to get as many people locked into a stupid plan before the take over..
If people do sign up before that happens, I think they are misinformed by others or just plain stupid...

[Soundy]

I'm also not an advocate of openmedia (I think they're way too leftist)...
I don't think they're too different from a lot of consumer-advocacy groups: they got together to fight one (perceived) injustice, got a lot of support, won(?) their battle against Goliath... and suddenly got all full of themselves and now have to go looking for windmills to tilt at to maintain their legitimacy. If that means stirring some people up with a bunch of hyperbole and "us against them" sentiment and damn the consequences, then so be it.

[Marioo1991]

Does anyone know if 3 year contracts are still enforceable? buddy of mine was telling me i should renew my 3 year contract because they wont be able to enforce the 3 year contract anymore.

[FerrariEnzo]

the thing is.. they dont force you to sign a contract.. they have pay as your go plans... but if you want something for free, then you have to give up something...

[roastpuff]

Screw this... I'm going to stick with the Google Nexus phones and grandfathering my plan in.

[shenmecar]

Does anyone know if 3 year contracts are still enforceable? buddy of mine was telling me i should renew my 3 year contract because they wont be able to enforce the 3 year contract anymore.

CRTC made it impossible to renew 3 year contracts starting December 2013.

[terkan]

you can't renew your contract.. but i'm sure you can keep your plan on a month to month.. i rather pay 50bux a month and buy my own phone.. than pay 100bux

[!MiKrofT]

Glad I still have just over 2 years left on my 6gb contract.

[Soundy]

I don't know about other carries, but with Telus, the contract has only (functionally) ever been for the hardware itself; the voice/data plans don't "expire" with the contract requiring a new/different plan. I've had my same plan (more or less) for three phones now. Basically the "contract" is just saying, in return for getting this phone cheap, you're gonna stick with us for the next "X" years.

[Marioo1991]

I'm with Telus and i'm halfway through my 3year contract, was thinking of renewing early for an S4, but not if i have to switch to their shitty plans.

my plan with 1GB data is $50 now, would cost $85 with the new ones. :fuuuuu:

after my 2 years are up, i would really consider switching to a different provider

[Soundy]

You shouldn't have to change your plan when you renew and get a new phone... isn't that what I just said? I even got to keep my same airtime plan when I switched from CDMA to a GSM phone (although they had to change the data plan because my old "unlimited for $15/mo" package wouldn't transfer to the newer system... but at least they gave me 6GB for $30)

[GLOW]

i wonder how this will affect corporate plans?

[Marioo1991]

You shouldn't have to change your plan when you renew and get a new phone... isn't that what I just said? I even got to keep my same airtime plan when I switched from CDMA to a GSM phone (although they had to change the data plan because my old "unlimited for $15/mo" package wouldn't transfer to the newer system... but at least they gave me 6GB for $30)

if i was going to renew, they said i would need to bring my own phone or buy one outright in order to stay on my existing plan. if i were to buy a phone on one of their 2 year contracts, i would need to change to one of their shitty plans

[shenmecar]

You shouldn't have to change your plan when you renew and get a new phone... isn't that what I just said? I even got to keep my same airtime plan when I switched from CDMA to a GSM phone (although they had to change the data plan because my old "unlimited for $15/mo" package wouldn't transfer to the newer system... but at least they gave me 6GB for $30)

they cannot renew 3 year contracts according to CRTC's new policy. therefore, you MUST change your current 3 year plan when its up if you want hardware subsidy. If you don't want hardware subsidy then you can keep your plan on month to month.

[inv4zn]

they cannot renew 3 year contracts according to CRTC's new policy. therefore, you MUST change your current 3 year plan when its up if you want hardware subsidy. If you don't want hardware subsidy then you can keep your plan on month to month.

I thought CRTC made it so that carriers can't charge cancellation fee after 2 years out of a 3 year contract.

Nowhere can I find something that says they banned 3 year contracts altogether. That looks like something the carriers did to screw the consumer again.

[dub.g]

i just made a switch from wind to fido since i need a more stable cell reception for a new career and i just picked their unlimited everything 2gb plan for $60.. since i had my own unlock phone, im not on contract

when i was with wind and being a note 2 user, i rarely go over 2gb per billing unless i watch alot of youtube vids and with the optional incrimental $10/gb if i go over, thats $70 for a 3gb its still cheaper than what the new 2 year contract is offering..

i really wish i picked that 6gb plan from last summer

[!MiKrofT]

i wonder how this will affect corporate plans?
They'll go up as well. Not sure how much though.

[BaoTurbo]

The thing I'm worried about now is that everyone is stuck on their grandfather plan after the end of this year. Reason why is because your plan is actually now much cheaper than the in market plans even if you don't like it. But wait, you can probably talk to retentions right? No, because retentions will just compare to what the market has which is already 10x worse than yours so you won't get anything better. Thats what I speculate

[yogenfruz]

^ Once my plan with Telus is up, I'm thinking of switching to Wind, Fido, or Koodo. How did you find Wind, and how much better is Fido?

Checked out the price for essentially the same plan I have now with Telus under their new plan system: 85$/month vs my current 60$/month....

[BaoTurbo]

Wind runs on AWS. You won't get anything higher than 3G coverage. And so are their phones because they run on a much weaker spectrum frequency. I have a friend who has a Note 2 from Wind and used it on Koodo, he only got HSPA+ which is 4G rather than LTE. Also network coverage isn't that stable but $40/month unlimited everything. You go figure. But with that price no one can argue

Fido is decent with Fido dollars which is somewhat a bonus. Fido plans and coverage are whatever the subsidy market has. So they copy what Koodo and Virgin has and so do they are pretty similar.

[Geoc]

i currently have a 3 year contract, does that mean I am not eligible to renew the terms of my contract for a additional 2 years?

[Derek128]

I have been using Wind since End of 2011........ :fullofwin:
I'm very happy I'm done with Roger/Bell/Telus


Holiday Miracle Plan
40.00 month

Unlimited Features: (from anywhere on our network)
Canada-wide calling
All incoming calls
Incoming/Outgoing Text (CA/US)
WIND to WIND calling across Canada
US Long Distance Calling
Incoming/Outgoing Global Text
Incoming/Outgoing Picture Messaging (CA/US)
Infinite BlackBerry/Infinite Mobile Data Service
Included Features:
Call Control (Caller ID, missed-call alerts, call forward, call conferencing, call waiting, call hold)

Voicemail

[shenmecar]

I thought CRTC made it so that carriers can't charge cancellation fee after 2 years out of a 3 year contract.

Nowhere can I find something that says they banned 3 year contracts altogether. That looks like something the carriers did to screw the consumer again.

The CRTC has unveiled a new code of conduct that forbids cellphone companies from charging customers fees to break their contracts after two years and makes it easier to unlock cellphones.

Those are two of the biggest takeaways from a new code of conduct that the broadcast regulator unveiled on Monday and will come into effect for contracts signed after Dec. 2, 2013.

New CRTC wireless rules ban contract break fees after 2 years - Business - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2013/06/03/business-crtc-wireless.html)

For contracts signed after Dec 2013, they cannot charge you cancellation fees after 2 years, but carriers are already ridding all their 3 year contracts starting now anyways.

If you signed a contract before Dec 2013, they can still charge you cancellation after 2 years.

[FerrariEnzo]

I still :fulloffuck: at people who signs a contract before this rule takes place...