[Ronin]

04/26/ Update:

Did interviews with CBC and the Richmond Review today. I'll be on 6PM on Sunday. :)

Also...you have to install some sort of app to vote now. I know it sucks but the app just ensures people aren't duping votes and it does not do anything to your timeline/profile/etc.

You can vote once every 24 hours!

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UPDATE:

I made it into the 12 person shortlist for the job. They're now doing an open vote where the top vote getter is in the top 3 and Richmond picks another two for a second interview.

You can vote for me here: http://bit.ly/I311vL

Gimme a hand in getting my dream job!

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Hey guys. :spamarama:

I don't know if you've heard of this contest, 365 Days of Dining (http://www.365daysofdining.com), but I'm hoping they pick me. :accepted: I've been on RS for over a decade now, with much of that decade as part of the staff. I've probably met you at meets or other RS events. Heck, quite a few of you have said "Oh, you're Ronin." when we just meet randomly so I hope you guys can give me a hand with a little something. Won't take more than a minute or two of your time.

I'm not claiming to be the best blogger out there but I do think I'm the best for the job. I know Richmond like few do. Are you kidding me? I am Queen's Boulevard...I mean, Richmond. Plus I'd have a heck of a lot of fun with this. If I can run it like I want, trust me, it'll be awesome. Pretty much the only reason I don't do stuff like this full time already is because it isn't my full time job.

I would love it if you guys would support me with this. You can do so by visiting Tourism Richmond's Facebook page and like the post I made: https://www.facebook.com/RichmondBC/posts/208976992536568 or leave a comment for yourself.

If you have Twitter, then if you could tweet out the following things in any way you like:

#Richmond365
#EdEatsRichmond
@TourismRichmond
@edlau
ow.ly/9NT7D

For example: Hey @TourismRichmond, give @edlau the #Richmond365 job! #EdEatsRichmond ow.ly/9NT7D

Whatever you want.

I've always tried to make REVscene as awesome as it can be and trust me, if I get a gig as cool as this, you can bet I'll be bringing the fun to the forums. :fullofwin::awwyeah:

P.S. before you ask, even though I'm a head mod myself, I asked the execs before posting.

[Roach]

You've been around a long time, so I'll actually take the time.

Liked.

All the best :)

Kev

[murd0c]

You should of posted it in the voting thread since you have been here so long but since you have been I will shoot out some twitter msgs for ya.

[fishCak3s]

liked!

[punkwax]

I'll help a brother out.

[noTirl]

good luck!

[artmotion]

Liked and tweeted!

[hsh4]

liked

[RFlush]

How do we see the full list of all the other contestants? I would like to vote for the best suitable person.

[mrclean604]

Liked! Good luck!

[vyrospec]

liked and tweeted

[HonestTea]

Done and done!

[Tim Budong]

Support ronin. Many food adventures with him and a few others here
Always always fun
Posted via RS Mobile (http://www.revscene.net/forums/announcement.php?a=228)

[!Tigger]

in ed i trust, you better win

[Grandmaster TSE]

good luck ed!!!!

we will join you on the food adventures lol

[jACEDesignsLtd]

Exec Approved by jACE.

Behind the scenes, Ronin has done a lot for the RS community as a whole. It's time for us to give back.

Please join me in supporting him in his goal.

Vote for Ed!

[Tim Budong]

IF ONLY THERE WERE PICTURES OF GHOSTRIDER'S FACE OF...well..FUCK U GUYS THIS BEEF TOUGNE STILL SU..........bwahahahah

too damn good

[Ronin]

LOL that was awesome when we convinced him to eat the beef tongue...

[Ronin]

How do we see the full list of all the other contestants? I would like to vote for the best suitable person.

There isn't one. Feel free to browse the Richmond BC Facebook page for other people entering.

[HonestTea]

IF ONLY THERE WERE PICTURES OF GHOSTRIDER'S FACE OF...well..FUCK U GUYS THIS BEEF TOUGNE STILL SU..........bwahahahah

too damn good

LOL that was awesome when we convinced him to eat the beef tongue...

:rofl: Was it that time at Nan Chuu?

[Obsideon]

Liked and commented Ed :thumbs:

Sounds like an awesome opportunity, I would love to do this but I am stuck at my job :okay:

[Mike Oxbig]

Voted.

[Presto]

So we just gotta hit the 'Like'? Done.

[Ronin]

:rofl: Was it that time at Nan Chuu?

Yep, he was all "This is okay, I guess..."

Thanks for the support, guys.

So we just gotta hit the 'Like'? Done.

A comment in on the https://www.facebook.com/RichmondBC page would be fantastic but yeah, a like here and there would be appreciated.

[Ronin]

Update:

I made it into the 12 person shortlist for the job. They're now doing an open vote where the top vote getter is in the top 3 and Richmond picks another two for a second interview.

My first interview is tomorrow.

You can vote for me here: Ed Eats in Richmond, BC: Vote Now: 365 Days Of Dining (http://bit.ly/I311vL)

Gimme a hand in getting my dream job!

[BlackZRoadster]

Mijune is pretty good looking, :)

[Sky_High]

Surprisingly...only 2 ish of the 12 finalist are "Asian".....and only half of the list was people from Vancouver. Everyone else...was all across North America. Looks like they did a really good job is diversifying the entries.

[Tim Budong]

I'll say it right now
Ed Lau is the ONLY PERSON that will represent Richmond Food Culture correctly.

This is gonna sound a bit racist, but you bring in some big white boy from the NYC into Richmond, the guy will get lost. sadly if your not asian, you might and most likely will miss out on specialties

this is in fact the very nature of why white boys even from Langley get confused coming into Richmond and think everything is garbage. Sure, the night market is fun and games, and/or Richmond's huge overflow of chain mid-range spots such as Cactus, BostonPizza or even Earls, but to get the real feel of Richmond, you need a local man. and that guy is Ed

[Vansterdam]

VOTE FOR ED LAU OR DIE

[kcl38]

Voted! Gave me advice when starting up my own food blog :D I was talking to my boss when I was at work yesterday and he was talking about Ed being a great guy and always enjoying having him at the restaurant

[Ronin]

Plenty of people gave me advice when I was starting out blogging and stuff. Only right that I do the same. :)

Who's your boss?

[winson604]

Update:

I made it into the 12 person shortlist for the job. They're now doing an open vote where the top vote getter is in the top 3 and Richmond picks another two for a second interview.

My first interview is tomorrow.

You can vote for me here: Ed Eats in Richmond, BC: Vote Now: 365 Days Of Dining (http://bit.ly/I311vL)

Gimme a hand in getting my dream job!

Voted for you mang but looks like your getting rocked right now. I'll spread the word though I feel your the right man for the job.

[BlackZRoadster]

I'll say it right now
Ed Lau is the ONLY PERSON that will represent Richmond Food Culture correctly.

This is gonna sound a bit racist, but you bring in some big white boy from the NYC into Richmond, the guy will get lost. sadly if your not asian, you might and most likely will miss out on specialties

this is in fact the very nature of why white boys even from Langley get confused coming into Richmond and think everything is garbage. Sure, the night market is fun and games, and/or Richmond's huge overflow of chain mid-range spots such as Cactus, BostonPizza or even Earls, but to get the real feel of Richmond, you need a local man. and that guy is Ed

you mean chinese or asian?

because i see another local asian

[Ronin]

Voted for you mang but looks like your getting rocked right now. I'll spread the word though I feel your the right man for the job.

Yeah, I know but I gotta do what I can.

The winner of the vote is just automatically in the top 3. I'm quite confident I can get there with my interview but hey, couldn't hurt to have a guaranteed spot.

Thanks guys. I honestly appreciate you guys helping me out.

[Gnomes]

We need more rs support for Ed!

[Manic!]

voted.

[winson604]

Yeah, I know but I gotta do what I can.

The winner of the vote is just automatically in the top 3. I'm quite confident I can get there with my interview but hey, couldn't hurt to have a guaranteed spot.

Thanks guys. I honestly appreciate you guys helping me out.

Yea dude the voting shiet most of the time is just a matter of who knows the most people and has nothing to do with who's deserving. Got faith in you mang you got this shiet.

[Phozy]

Voted! Hope you get this. Show em how RS does it!

[Ronin]

I'll say it right now
Ed Lau is the ONLY PERSON that will represent Richmond Food Culture correctly.

This is gonna sound a bit racist, but you bring in some big white boy from the NYC into Richmond, the guy will get lost. sadly if your not asian, you might and most likely will miss out on specialties

this is in fact the very nature of why white boys even from Langley get confused coming into Richmond and think everything is garbage. Sure, the night market is fun and games, and/or Richmond's huge overflow of chain mid-range spots such as Cactus, BostonPizza or even Earls, but to get the real feel of Richmond, you need a local man. and that guy is Ed

I assume if they're in this thing then they can order more at Chinese restaurants than sweet and sour pork, spring rolls and chicken fried rice.

If not, well, they won't get very far in Richmond, I guess.

[Tim Budong]

I assume if they're in this thing then they can order more at Chinese restaurants than sweet and sour pork, spring rolls and chicken fried rice.

If not, well, they won't get very far in Richmond, I guess.

Kinda what I mean. If it was scored on customer service...then yea..our city would look like shit.

[Wilsonia]

Voted! hope you'll win it!

[$_$]

Hey, I can help you rig the contest, but don't know if it's what you want. Can get you lots of votes :). PM if you want more details. Love to help out RS members/mods

[Ronin]

Nah. Thanks for asking though. :)

You can help me out by pressing a blue button once a day and asking your friends to as well. I appreciate any help I can get.

[CharlieH]

voted

[dinfung]

liked n done, good luck

[HonestTea]

Voted!

[red_2]

good luck!

[twitchyzero]

voted good luck

[RacePace]

gaining speed buddy, let them behold the power of Revscene

[Vansterdam]

i think this thread deserves to be sticky to the top ;)

[Ch28]

1st place!

Let's make sure he continues staying on top

[Matsuda]

holy crap, power of RS lol

[Dinan3]

Voted. Good luck.

[TjAlmeida]

voted for you.. Now to remember to do it daily

[bing]

Voted.

[timmytimtimtim]

Definitely supporting this campaign by voting daily. TEAM ED LAU!

[Meowjin]

I'll say it right now
Ed Lau is the ONLY PERSON that will represent Richmond Food Culture correctly.

This is gonna sound a bit racist, but you bring in some big white boy from the NYC into Richmond, the guy will get lost. sadly if your not asian, you might and most likely will miss out on specialties

this is in fact the very nature of why white boys even from Langley get confused coming into Richmond and think everything is garbage. Sure, the night market is fun and games, and/or Richmond's huge overflow of chain mid-range spots such as Cactus, BostonPizza or even Earls, but to get the real feel of Richmond, you need a local man. and that guy is Ed

DIU >=(

but yeah white people are pretty dumb

edit: I am white.

[Not really racist!]

oh man, i love rs when i see threads like this
4th place to 1st place within 15 hours.. awesome

voted!!

[Obsideon]

You're gonna have to take us out for dinner when you land this dream job ;)

[RacePace]

You're gonna have to take us out for dinner when you land this dream job ;)

And then review the restaurant we go to :fullofwin:

[Gumby]

You're gonna have to take us out for dinner when you land this dream job ;)
Or negotiate a discount for RS members!

[Ronin]

Update:

Did interviews with CBC and the Richmond Review today. I'll be on 6PM on Sunday. :)

Also...you have to install some sort of app to vote now. I know it sucks but the app just ensures people aren't duping votes and it does not do anything to your timeline/profile/etc.

You can vote once every 24 hours!

[Meowjin]

I really don't want to see some gwai - lo win. Seriously, I'm the only one thats eat at all these places in Richmond!!!

[Tim Budong]

I really don't want to see some gwai - lo win. Seriously, I'm the only one thats eat at all these places in Richmond!!!

to me, your chinese...ur white card is almost dead to me

[Ronin]

I really don't want to see some gwai - lo win. Seriously, I'm the only one thats eat at all these places in Richmond!!!

You're like SkinnyPupp...more Asian than I am.

YOUR CALLER ID SAYS GWAI LO

[Ronin]

Well, I'm back down to 2nd. :(

[Ch28]

Keep voting guys.

There's no way that Lindsay girl will do a better job than Ed

[Ronin]

I'm going to be on CBC News Vancouver at 11pm...er...right now, along with a few of the other finalists. Tune in!

....and vote for me. :)

[Oleophobic]

Wow they sure gave a lot of camera time to Mijune and Lindsay lol.

[Ronin]

...yeah, they didn't use my interview footage. Just me holding up my blog. Oh well.

It's true though, P1 is awesome. :)

[beansbaxter]

I'm going to be on CBC News Vancouver at 11pm...er...right now, along with a few of the other finalists. Tune in!

....and vote for me. :)

For those who missed it, you can watch it here (http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Canada/BC/1258521056/ID=2228589926). FF to 15:20.

Good luck, Ed!

[BaoTurbo]

I voted again

[Vansterdam]

you were featured on cbc eating pho lol thats preety epic

[StylinRed]

wow they're really milking this you'd think they would have ended the contest already after Ronin got top spot :D


edit: holy shit that other chick shot up in votes wth

[Tim Budong]

Dont know how..
Im surprised Mijune hasnt made a big push for this oh well

[muteki]

Voted

[jACEDesignsLtd]

Voted again. Come on people!!

[SkinnyPupp]

I don't get where that girl is getting her votes from. Her blog (which doesn't even have its own domain name) is a PR0 (so nobody links to it) and she only has like 300 twitter followers (so she has no readership)... so what gives? :suspicious:

I have been voting for Ed because as far as I know he's the only other one besides me who would do Richmond food any justice...

[Jer3]

I don't get where that girl is getting her votes from. Her blog (which doesn't even have its own domain name) is a PR0 (so nobody links to it) and she only has like 300 twitter followers (so she has no readership)... so what gives? :suspicious:

I have been voting for Ed because as far as I know he's the only other one besides me who would do Richmond food any justice...

im sure u would know better than me skinny but i assume proxies?

[Tim Budong]

I don't get where that girl is getting her votes from. Her blog (which doesn't even have its own domain name) is a PR0 (so nobody links to it) and she only has like 300 twitter followers (so she has no readership)... so what gives? :suspicious:

I have been voting for Ed because as far as I know he's the only other one besides me who would do Richmond food any justice...

ive wonder as well
hhaha

[Phozy]

Me too..that girl...where she getting those votes from? Jumped from 1400 to 3k in a mere 4 days?

:(

Majority of the comments about her were made on April 24th

Not to mention, that mijune pak girl is kinda cute :P

[SkinnyPupp]

im sure u would know better than me skinny but i assume proxies?
How would I know? lol

I don't think she's cheating... it must be pure word of mouth, which is really weird.

The winner is chosen as a job, so votes don't mean much in the end. I doubt they'd hire her in the end, but it sucks that she'd be put over people who would do a better job because of this

[Tim Budong]

How would I know? lol

I don't think she's cheating... it must be pure word of mouth, which is really weird.

The winner is chosen as a job, so votes don't mean much in the end. I doubt they'd hire her in the end, but it sucks that she'd be put over people who would do a better job because of this

amongst all the locals, I've only met Mijune and I know Ed...
Both of which are influencers in the Social Media scene in town

So who knows what she is doing.

[Teriyaki]

voted. good luck!

[RecklessNS]

voted
good luck man!

[Ikkaku]

I am very curious about one thing. How many people voted purely based on word of mouth aka spammed on fb/rs/twitter/other social media, and how many actually voted based on honest judgment?

[Manic!]

I am very curious about one thing. How many people voted purely based on word of mouth aka spammed on fb/rs/twitter/other social media, and how many actually voted based on honest judgment?

Voted couse RS told me too.

[JackAss]

voted... go Ed go!!!

[-lincolnboi-]

My vote goes to you. Go RS power! :fullofwin:

[rexsomnii]

My vote is in :D

[Tim Budong]

i made my final votes
Good Luck bud
I expect that Bacon party.

[Tim Budong]

I am very curious about one thing. How many people voted purely based on word of mouth aka spammed on fb/rs/twitter/other social media, and how many actually voted based on honest judgment?

I voted with honest judgement

[StylinRed]

she's now got 900 more votes than ronin

:suspicious:

[Ronin]

I am very curious about one thing. How many people voted purely based on word of mouth aka spammed on fb/rs/twitter/other social media, and how many actually voted based on honest judgment?

I voted based on honest judgment. :)

Looks like I'll finish second in the voting. Thanks so much, guys. I'm grateful you guys would take the time to help me out. RS is awesome.

[Ronin]

In all seriousness, I don't think she's cheating but she has a very fanatical support network that's willing to spend hours convincing others to vote and consistently getting them to vote every day. I have a big reach in social media but most of those people don't know me personally and while I can convince them to vote for me once or twice, most aren't going to have a set time each day when they log into Facebook and vote together, like I know some of her friends are doing. I don't want to be that much of a bother to that many people anyways. I feel bad enough for the spam.

The solution would've been to allow one vote per person rather than allowing one vote per 24 hours. That would've been a true look at how many people any one of the finalists reach.

[pastarocket]

-voted based on honest judgement.

[Ch28]

Macro that shit :p

[Vansterdam]

i voted for you everyday that i could

will be expecting bacon. lots of it :troll:

[Matsuda]

I voted for you whenever I could

[Tim Budong]

voting has ended
2400 even lawls

the tweet say they will release the top 3 within the hour

[Vansterdam]

dam looks like ed didnt make it in the top 3

http://365daysofdining.com/

[StylinRed]

that sucks based on the news clip on sunday i got the feeling that they were hoping for a female finalist and judging on those that they chose it pretty much confirms that


oh well at least you got some exposure from this contest

[artmotion]

It's too bad you didn't get the top vote, Ronin :( Definitely came close though.

[jACEDesignsLtd]

Good run, Ed. Thanks everyone for voting.

[Ronin]

voting has ended
2400 even lawls

the tweet say they will release the top 3 within the hour

My mom told me she was #2400, LOL.

Hey, thanks guys...I appreciate your support. Seriously, it means a lot to me.

Not the result I wanted :okay: but hey, it is what it is. :) Honestly, I was way more disappointed when we lost game 7 (both times). At least they didn't jerk me around for another month like the two that aren't going to win. I can sleep easy again and not put any more time into this because...well, it's been tiring.

But again, thank you everyone. It's been fun. :)

[Ronin]

Remember to unlike the page, BTW, if you guys didn't want to like it in the first place. I know some of you guys only did it to help me out. I don't want you guys getting spammed with further contest updates...y'know, unless you want to and in that case, continue to like away! :)

[SkinnyPupp]

Wow ed you got totally fucked. Linds Eats is a cunt.

They already have their winner chosen anyway, they want a female writer obviously. They haven't interviewed anyone right? I thought they would at least conduct interviews of the top 12.

The only one with a decent blog other than edeats.com was Melanie Hillier's site. The other two finalists are a fucking TUMBLR SITE and a fucking BLOGSPOT site with no traffic

:fulloffuck:

My advice is take this exposure and make edeats.com a bigger site than any of them.

It's going to be so wierd having a white chick from Ottawa blogging about Richmond food :lawl:

[Ronin]

No, they interviewed all of us. I thought I did quite well.

[SkinnyPupp]

Ah so they just wanted a white female for some reason. I wonder if they thought you would spend too much time talking about asian food

[Ronin]

If you don't want to talk Asian food, you're clearly in the wrong town.

[Bonka]

I am surprised. I browsed through the Linds site the other day and the content is lousy, especially as of late. I hope whoever wins doesn't spend their time writing about blueberry farms and restaurants in Steveston.

As Skinny has mentioned, hopefully this exposure will spring you onto other, bigger and better opportunities.

[SkinnyPupp]

That's why it's so :fulloffuck:

They got to pick two people out of twelve. One of them is obviously not going to win, and shows that the voting system is stupid. But two out of twelve and they didn't pick the one person who has shown themselves to be very active in local social media and food blogging? Instead, they went with someone with a crappy tumblr account and a chick from ontario?

Something doesn't add up...

[Matsuda]

actually the other two were from Ontario, wtf? at least pick people that know the city or are from here

[Ronin]

I am surprised. I browsed through the Linds site the other day and the content is lousy, especially as of late. I hope whoever wins doesn't spend their time writing about blueberry farms and restaurants in Steveston.

As Skinny has mentioned, hopefully this exposure will spring you onto other, bigger and better opportunities.

Fuck blueberry farms. ...but not blueberries, they're fucking delicious.

Just to give you an idea of the stuff I was thinking of...if I won, I was going to invite the other 11 finalists out to eat. Beforehand, we'd go go karting with a couple of GoPros mounted to them so we can see who the winner would've been if the competition was decided by go kart driving skill. Then head to a Chinese seafood restaurant for a multi-course meal. All filmed on my new 5D Mk III. If they weren't going to pay for a 12 person dinner, then I would've paid it out of the $50k. Only seems right that you say good game to everyone else.

Every week would be a 7 restaurant reviews, a "What's happening in Richmond this week" news post on Sundays, a random photo blog post...shit like just what happens in Richmond on a daily basis on another day and a weekly video of that week's restaurants and food related happenings.

I thought that would've been fun as hell.

[BlackZRoadster]

Lol I saw the interview... It's pronounced "fuh"
not "foe" for pho.

[Ronin]

I'm well aware it's called "fuh".

But when I do, I have to explain to the thousands of people that call it "pho" what the fuck I'm saying. So I choose to just not bother with something that's rather insignificant. Who the hell cares what it's called?

Besides, if you call it "fuh" then that fucking RUINS so many of the hilarious joke signs at a lot of modern pho restaurants. Like PHO SHO...FUH SHO just isn't as funny.

[SkinnyPupp]

Lol I saw the interview... It's pronounced "fuh"
not "foe" for pho.
He's speaking English, not Vietnamese. In English, you pronounce it "Foe"

Just don't be like my and Ed's friend who calls it "fur" for some stupid reason, even though we constantly tell him it's wrong.

[Mike Oxbig]

:fulloffuck: How did Ed lose to those 3 cunts even with the help of RS

[SkinnyPupp]

:fulloffuck: How did Ed lose to those 3 cunts even with the help of RS
The vote itself is a sham. Being the winner means nothing, except they get "included" in the top 3 consideration. Obviously they had their own top 2 choices... So whether Linds Eats Cunt wins, or Ed wins, they are going to pick one of the top 2 anyway. Unless Linds Eats Cunt was one of their top 3 already, and they pick her, in which case the whole city is a sham anyway.

In any case, whether Ed won the vote or not, they were going to pick one of those boring white girls from ontario regardless.

[Meowjin]

What a joke. I'm actually writing a letter to the city of richmond. Why ignore someone who already knows the city. Why does it have to be female? Are they trying to be so politically correct that they have to hire some white girl to show that they wouldn't favour asians in a city thats MAJORITY ASIAN RESTERAUNTS. I knew it was going to be some gwai lo.

Fuck I know they are going to do a bad job, because I'm the only fucking white guy thats eat at these places in Richmond. They literally call me "THE GWAI-LO".

It also looks like who ever is running the twitter account is already on the defense.

[KingDeeCee]

I'm mind blown that you didn't even make the top 3. Why are they all white females too?! I loved ededition when I first saw it a few years back and was a consistent follower for awhile. Just visited your blogs and damn, I don't know why I stopped.

You have my support for future contests and keep what you're doing. This contest was obviously premeditated and rigged.

[StylinRed]

Lindsay looks mixed in that cbc interview


but i really dont see why race should be a consideration

sex on the other hand

[Santofu]

I bet all of us are reacting like this...
http://emotibot.net/pix/4447.gif

[Grandmaster TSE]

should do your own eat 365 in Richmond Ed

I'll support you......lets go eat together lol

[Ronin]

Heh...I don't feel the need to stay in Richmond.

[Grandmaster TSE]

eat 365 BC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ch28]

It actually bothers me that two well known local foodies (Ed & Mijune) with a huge support base didn't get it.

Instead they chose to pick two people from fucking ONTARIO when Ed lives in Richmond and knows all the great little shops to eat.

Mijune is on the British Columbia Chef’s Association Board of Director's for fuck's sake

[bing]

I was hoping Ed would win so he could show me more of my city's best eats. I guess the objective here is to give Richmond's food scene more exposure (and promote tourism?) and the city decided that to extend their reach choosing two non-locals would be ideal. I mean they probably think that locals will probably eat at many of these places regardless since we live here and the local bloggers will... keep blogging anyways.

Btw KingDeeCee, you can't say its premeditated and rigged because it was clear from the start that only the top voted person would be guaranteed a spot in the final round (not the 2nd and 3rd runner up). Ultimately, the city has its bigger objectives and is entitled to best decide how to fulfill it. Tourist $$ = benefits BC economy.

[Ronin]

If that was the case, I'm going to take a wild guess and say the majority of Richmond tourists are Chinese? Probably from Hong Kong?

Maybe they want someone from out of town and they get random people from Richmond to show them around?

[SkinnyPupp]

I was hoping Ed would win so he could show me more of my city's best eats. I guess the objective here is to give Richmond's food scene more exposure (and promote tourism?) and the city decided that to extend their reach choosing two non-locals would be ideal. I mean they probably think that locals will probably eat at many of these places regardless since we live here and the local bloggers will... keep blogging anyways.

Btw KingDeeCee, you can't say its premeditated and rigged because it was clear from the start that only the top voted person would be guaranteed a spot in the final round (not the 2nd and 3rd runner up). Ultimately, the city has its bigger objectives and is entitled to best decide how to fulfill it. Tourist $$ = benefits BC economy.
Not a fail worthy post, but I disagree

[MindBomber]

I don't find the choice of a non-Asian, non-Richmond resident an unusual choice at all. The tourism board is looking to promote visitors of all ethnic back grounds, which an Asian resident of Richmond, reviewing almost exclusively Asian food would not do. It's like the thread in off-topic not long ago, where it was discussed how even in heavily Asian and South Asian ridings the politicians are often caucasian, because they have the ability to best appeal to all races for whatever reason.

[bing]

If that was the case, I'm going to take a wild guess and say the majority of Richmond tourists are Chinese? Probably from Hong Kong?

Maybe they want someone from out of town and they get random people from Richmond to show them around?

I think the tourism board that put this marketing ploy out probably wanted to promote non-Chinese visitors as Chinese tourists will come here regardless because there is an established Asian community, good quality of life, and some of the best Asian food outside of Asia. It's probably safe to say that when they do visit, they have friends/family that will take them to local favorites already.

Don't take this the wrong way. I'm not against you, I'm just trying to explain the mentality/influences that affect the board's decision-making.

[SkinnyPupp]

I don't find the choice of a non-Asian, non-Richmond resident an unusual choice at all. The tourism board is looking to promote visitors of all ethnic back grounds, which an Asian resident of Richmond, reviewing almost exclusively Asian food would not do. It's like the thread in off-topic not long ago, where it was discussed how even in heavily Asian and South Asian ridings the politicians are often caucasian, because they have the ability to best appeal to all races for whatever reason.

But the main thing going for richmond is the ethnic diversity of the cuisine. Compare it to every other SUBURB of vancouver, and you'll see they are missing an opportunity to have someone local to promote the city and what it has to offer.

[rb]

wtf. I went through computer hell trying to vote for ed. (my comp doesn't like facebook). They just used you guys with the social media connections to market their shitty contest, etc.

[Eff-1]

For those questioning the choice of two finalists from Ontario, you know the contest is being held by TOURISM Richmond, right?


Tourism Richmond is a non-profit, membership – driven destination marketing organization (DMO) that promotes Richmond, British Columbia, Canada as a destination to leisure travelers, meeting planners, travel media and organizations that influence travel.

Almost certainly, the contest was designed as a tool to raise awareness of Richmond to those outside Metro Vancouver. And tourism marketing is almost always done through the eyes of a visitor, rarely a local.

I imagine those two Ontario finalists had very good interviews. Both have blogs that are well written and showcase some decent photography. That's the basic stuff.

More importantly, you wouldn't choose someone who is already an expert on Richmond. Instead you want someone with fresh eyes willing to try something new and convey the experience in a genuinely positive way.

It's a fairly basic social media-based tourism ad campaign.

[SkinnyPupp]

For those questioning the choice of two finalists from Ontario, you know the contest is being held by TOURISM Richmond, right?



Almost certainly, the contest was designed as a tool to raise awareness of Richmond to those outside Metro Vancouver. And tourism marketing is almost always done through the eyes of a visitor, rarely a local.

I imagine those two Ontario finalists had very good interviews. Both have blogs that are well written and showcase some decent photography. That's the basic stuff.

More importantly, you wouldn't choose someone who is already an expert on Richmond. Instead you want someone with fresh eyes willing to try something new and convey the experience in a genuinely positive way.

It's a fairly basic social media-based tourism ad campaign.

OK let's say you are visiting richmond from England. Who would you want to show you around, someone who has lived there all their life, or someone who moved there from Ontario a week ago?

I don't see why it's not so obvious for people. The winner should be an AMBASSADOR for the city, not an outsider who has never been there before. :fulloffuck:

[bing]

OK let's say you are visiting richmond from England. Who would you want to show you around, someone who has lived there all their life, or someone who moved there from Ontario a week ago?

I don't see why it's not so obvious for people. The winner should be an AMBASSADOR for the city, not an outsider who has never been there before. :fulloffuck:

I am sure the board has already discussed in detail the best way this contest should be held. Judging by their profiles, many are veterans in the tourism industry with a wealth of varied experience. It might not be obvious to you or me, but it is to them what they wanted to do here. Feel free to browse their profiles if you must, it may give you an indication of the type of people they are and what they are looking for.

Our Team | Tourism Richmond (http://www.tourismrichmond.com/corporate-information/our-team)

Lastly, nobody has outright won yet. The board did provide an opportunity for a local rep to get to the final round and that was through the voting system.

[Phozy]

I get their point of view: they want somebody to look at the city and try the food with new eyes, to "sympathize" with future tourists.

But seriously, why wouldn't you pick somebody LOCAL who knows the city inside out to represent richmond? Tourists aren't going to put a lot of spirit into people who've never been there before. They want someone who's experienced and show them all the hidden jewels.

[Meowjin]

I hate those travel books. They are useless and written by Australians.

[Tim Budong]

Richmond Tourism...
in terms of food... we MIGHT have a huge density in terms of restaurants, but most places are almost the same.

Id say GOODLUCK on Alexandra St.

[GGnoRE]

Damn, sucks that our fellow RS brother didn't win it. I put in my votes for Ronin.


I would assume most of the top 12 candidates have a very good insight into culinary arts. In terms of Richmond's interests, the winner has to promote tourism for Richmond. Lindsay's blog has subscribers all over the world so she does appear to be a strong competitor.

[Grandmaster TSE]

the thing is, when you visit someplace new its not always the best to get advice from tourist that go to tourist attractions. If you want to get the great feel of a city, you want to go where the locals go, the hole in the wall places that only the locals know about.

thats why i see that an outsider's point of view isn't the best view for tourism marketing, you want the local to give great insider tips of which restaurant to eat especially when you find similar restaurants around every corner

[Meowjin]

Dropped a bomb on their FB page. The white people will probably think im whiney.

[Gumby]

Dropped a bomb on their FB page. The white people will probably think im whiney.
I liked your bomb. :thumbsup:

[CRS]

Dropped a bomb on their FB page. The white people will probably think im whiney.

I liked your bomb. :thumbsup:

Same. Liked it.

[vyrospec]

good bomb you planted there majin +1

[chun]

Dropped a bomb on their FB page. The white people will probably think im whiney.

They DID give them consideration. They just didn't win.

[Tim Budong]

My perspective is the same as yours Majin... Local homegrown talent to sell Richmond. Of course we dont want our beautiful city to be misrepresented to the world. The "safe" route you can say.

Heres an outside perspective tho, have an outsider come in and write about her experiences finding places in our dump. Sure, some things will be missed, but the storytelling aspect could be a great read.

Im still stickin to my original thought, dont send the wrong person doing this job. I dont want to see a fucking wonton shootout from a real gwai lo(sorry majin, you lost your white card..hahaha)

The REAL sad part of the internet nowadays is that ANYONE with a camera/cellphone can go eat, start a blog and become a foodie in an instant

[Meowjin]

It's ok, my godmother just calls me Chinese now.

I agree with richmond food being pretty much the same everywhere though. Although I have yet to try the cheap goodies at RPM.

[BaoTurbo]

Ed didn't win? :(

[Tim Budong]

It's ok, my godmother just calls me Chinese now.

I agree with richmond food being pretty much the same everywhere though. Although I have yet to try the cheap goodies at RPM.

I personally HAVE NOT been to RPM for food EVER in my 21 years in Canada...

HAHAH

[Meowjin]

I personally HAVE NOT been to RPM for food EVER in my 21 years in Canada...

HAHAH

Apparently its good and cheap. RS Meet?

[Tim Budong]

Apparently its good and cheap. RS Meet?

agreed

LAWLS :nyan:

Im curious.. How does Majin survive Lido?

HAHAH

[Meowjin]

I know how to order in cantonese. And I'll always order something on the lunch menu.

Was so happy to see malay curry at alleliua the other day, ordered it and got the regular chinese green shit >:(

[Expresso]

It's ok, my godmother just calls me Chinese now.

I agree with richmond food being pretty much the same everywhere though. Although I have yet to try the cheap goodies at RPM.

You need to start a Richmond Food Blog NOW! Call it The Gwai Lo.

[SkinnyPupp]

Apparently its good and cheap. RS Meet?
Oh man I used to go to RPM for teriyaki chicken all the time, it was so fucken good :sweetjesus:

[SkinnyPupp]

If the first dim sum restaurant this person blogs about is Sun Sui Wah, we know it was a big stupid mistake to hire an outsider.

Remember this post. When the blog starts, you'll see. It will be Sun Sui Wah, and she will lie about how good it is.

[Ronin]

Best thing at RPM is the clay pot rice place.

You need to start a Richmond Food Blog NOW! Call it The Gwai Lo.

I'd read that! Seriously.

And guys, thanks for voting for me. I honestly do appreciate it. It's not every day that so many people support you in something you're doing. Seriously, I'm honored. :bowdown:

I don't agree with their chosen marketing plan but hey, there's no reason to slag the other competitors. We have enough shit to be pissed about on the internet...food blogging shouldn't be one of them. Talk shit here if you want because hey, this is REVscene...if someone doesn't like what we say here, they can fuck off. But the other 11 finalists are good people. Half of them have asked me if I wanted to go eat sometime already. :)

I'm disappointed I didn't win but you can't win 'em all. I'm not pissed about that but there are some things that went down during and after the competition that I didn't appreciate. But that isn't the fault of the other competitors so if you're talking on the Facebook site or Twitter, don't insult the other 11 people. They don't deserve that.

[Ronin]

If the first dim sum restaurant this person blogs about is Sun Sui Wah, we know it was a big stupid mistake to hire an outsider.

Remember this post. When the blog starts, you'll see. It will be Sun Sui Wah, and she will lie about how good it is.

That place hasn't been good for years and years.

I happen to really like Sea Harbor but they're a little expensive. My friends and I usually go to Ga Lok. Gingeri is decent too. My favorite little ghetto spot with $2.50 dim sum recently closed... :okay:

[SkinnyPupp]

That place hasn't been good for years and years.

I happen to really like Sea Harbor but they're a little expensive. My friends and I usually go to Ga Lok. Gingeri is decent too. My favorite little ghetto spot with $2.50 dim sum recently closed... :okay:
That's my point. It has gone waaaaaaaaaay downhill. Hasn't been good since, oh about 2001 or so. But it's still the most popular with 'non locals'

The others you mention are good (Sea Harbor has gone down as well though IMO). Gingeri is good but I don't go there for personal reasons (I know the former owners and well for reasons I won't go into here regarding he new owners, I don't go there)

[BaoTurbo]

Kirin isn't bad. Doing well lately actually. I have heard sometimes Kirin is booked so full on weekends or special dates they just tell customers to come back the next day instead.

[LSF22]

Dropped a bomb on their FB page. The white people will probably think im whiney.

"Liked" your bomb as well.. especially regarding the food capital part :fullofwin:

[Tim Budong]

Kirin isn't bad. Doing well lately actually. I have heard sometimes Kirin is booked so full on weekends or special dates they just tell customers to come back the next day instead.

Kirin in richmond is fucking disgusting. Kirin at Starlight is great
Sea Harbor, Fishermans Terrance or even Empire by LD is good

I like the claypot rice at Empire Mall, never been to RPM:okay:

[winson604]

Kirin in richmond is fucking disgusting. Kirin at Starlight is great
Sea Harbor, Fishermans Terrance or even Empire by LD is good

I like the claypot rice at Empire Mall, never been to RPM:okay:

The claypot rice at RPM is classic, been around for years but I haven't gone in like 7 years lol. Empire one isn't too shabby as well.

[Phozy]

Dropped a bomb on their FB page. The white people will probably think im whiney.

Which ones yours? Nevermind, i realized which one was yours because of the "Gwai-Lo" part haha

Nice bomb!

[death_blossom]

does RPM still have $1.99 beef brisket on rice?

[Lomac]

While I understand the logic behind having someone from outside of the city being the one to review restaurants, I don't agree with it. Watch pretty much any food travel show (currently watching Anthony Bourdain, so that's what makes me want to write this), and the host almost always meets up with locals in order to find where the best food can be had. It just makes sense. There are hundreds of restaurants in Richmond, some giant chains, some tiny hole-in-the-wall mom-and-pop shops. And unless you know where to look for the latter ones, chances are the person that wins this is going to miss out on some great places.

[civicyvr]

The vote itself is a sham. Being the winner means nothing, except they get "included" in the top 3 consideration. Obviously they had their own top 2 choices... So whether Linds Eats Cunt wins, or Ed wins, they are going to pick one of the top 2 anyway. Unless Linds Eats Cunt was one of their top 3 already, and they pick her, in which case the whole city is a sham anyway.

In any case, whether Ed won the vote or not, they were going to pick one of those boring white girls from ontario regardless.

Yep. Looks like that to me.

Well, on with better things for you Ed.

[Tim Budong]

I'll be following their blogs
but for those that want a local perspective on everything... umm Chowtimes has a pretty extensive Richmond section

[sh0n]

LOLercopters

Can't believe Richmond Tourisim selected the Gwai Por (I know it's probably best for their own interest) but she'll know JACK SHIT about asian cuisine.

I had a chance to check out her blog to - so fucking hipster. LOL

Guess they had to go that way to appeal to people who are not from Vancovuer & Richmond like your average Canadian & American traveling to Richmond for Tourism.

The Gwai Mui will not hold her weight in any of her opinion for her reviews in asian restaurants.

Bitch PLEASE step aside (I ATE MSG more than she ate rice - Chinese slang for me eating salt more than her eating rice)

[Eff-1]

OK let's say you are visiting richmond from England. Who would you want to show you around, someone who has lived there all their life, or someone who moved there from Ontario a week ago?


They aren't mutually exclusive. If I'm visiting Richmond as a tourist, I'd rather read content written by someone else who has done the same thing (another tourist). That gives it relevance. But then to add credibility to the information, it's also a good idea to include insider tips and details straight from a local.

[TjAlmeida]

more reasons to not like richmond, their food blog is going to suck.

Sorry you didn't win ronin, im sure yourself and your blog has got a lot publicity through this competition though!

[Lomac]

LOLercopters

Can't believe Richmond Tourisim selected the Gwai Por (I know it's probably best for their own interest) but she'll know JACK SHIT about asian cuisine.

I had a chance to check out her blog to - so fucking hipster. LOL

Guess they had to go that way to appeal to people who are not from Vancovuer & Richmond like your average Canadian & American traveling to Richmond for Tourism.

The Gwai Mui will not hold her weight in any of her opinion for her reviews in asian restaurants.

Bitch PLEASE step aside (I ATE MSG more than she ate rice - Chinese slang for me eating salt more than her eating rice)

:fulloffuck:

[Grandmaster TSE]

You need to start a Richmond Food Blog NOW! Call it The Gwai Lo.

the gwai lo down

[BlackZRoadster]

Lomac: it's an old Chinese saying, "I've ate more salt in my life than you have in rice"

Rice is usually consumed on a daily basis and salt of course but not as much. So the elders will say this to generally someone younger that they have more experience in life just because they have been around longer.

Hope this makes sense

[niu99]

What a disappointment. :okay:

[RacePace]

If the first dim sum restaurant this person blogs about is Sun Sui Wah, we know it was a big stupid mistake to hire an outsider.

Remember this post. When the blog starts, you'll see. It will be Sun Sui Wah, and she will lie about how good it is.

I would rage hardcore

[SkinnyPupp]

I would rage hardcore
Since Ed has suddenly turned into Mr. Nice Guy with these tools, my guess is he'll let them know what's up, and prevent them from embarrassing themselves

:okay:

[Ronin]

I'm not saying to not discuss what you guys think. I just don't think it's right to talk shit about the other finalists. It isn't their fault. I just put myself in their shoes. They must be happy they made it. It's like Joel Ward scoring that game 7 OT goal. Happiest moment of his life and then he has to deal with people calling him a n*****. It's one thing to tell Tourism Richmond they made the wrong call but that's on them, not the finalists.

Since Ed has suddenly turned into Mr. Nice Guy with these tools, my guess is he'll let them know what's up, and prevent them from embarrassing themselves

:okay:

As for this, it's doubtful that I will be involved with their campaign at any point. I don't feel it's necessary to air what happened to the public but if you really want to know, we can talk privately but basically, if they don't want someone from Richmond representing Richmond, I'm not going to help them for free.

[drunkrussian]

^well put man. though i agree with a few of the theories here as a whote guy who lives in richmond and goes regularly to hole in the wall places where im the only white guy, i was getting a bit annoyed at some of the comments in this thread as they were starting to profile. notthat i expected any less - there are a lot of racist pieces of shit in this city and its one of the reasons im looking to leave bc

[Ronin]

Apparently its good and cheap. RS Meet?

Lemme know and we'll go get clay pot rice. I haven't been in a long time too.

[Meowjin]

^well put man. though i agree with a few of the theories here as a whote guy who lives in richmond and goes regularly to hole in the wall places where im the only white guy, i was getting a bit annoyed at some of the comments in this thread as they were starting to profile. notthat i expected any less - there are a lot of racist pieces of shit in this city and its one of the reasons im looking to leave bc

grow some thick skin.

[Tim Budong]

Rather than sulk at these ladies not being able to bring out the best of asian cuisine. What about wrongfully representing Richmond with restaurants that offer GREAT FOOD...but CRAPTACULAR SERVICE.

Lets take for example.. 80% of Alexandra give her a rough time with service...what will that say to the outside? The Richmond food scene is like that of Asia in some aspects, dont expect much for service. Its generally accepted by the public already within asians richmond residents to not expect anything.

So the target of this is to open up to the rest of the world and not just Asian tourists that will come here no matter what, the rest of north america will just think our city is crap.

The fact of hte matter is that as a PROUD resident of Richmond, I dont want the city to be misrepresented to the outside world. This is basically a showcase to the world on what we, as Richmond has to offer and if yes, the service at certain places is going to suck. Having someone that KNOWS our city can mask and explain that in a cultural aspect to the world. A visitor might not have the same thing to say

The City of Richmond is PROUD of 3 areas in cuisine. Steveston, Alexandra(food street) and "golden village"

[RacePace]

Honestly, I don't even expect those restaurants on Alexandra to be so ignorant as to not recognize Tourism Richmond's food blogger, and not give them better than usual service

[Tim Budong]

Honestly, I don't even expect those restaurants on Alexandra to be so ignorant as to not recognize Tourism Richmond's food blogger, and not give them better than usual service

becuz most of those restaurants dont give a shit. As long as the food tastes good and the service is bearable to patrons, people will come.

Lido, Kam Do and SOMETIMES silver tower is a prime example of this

[Ronin]

Those restaurants couldn't care less if you think their service sucks. Business never slows down so zero fucks to give.

[drunkrussian]

grow some thick skin.

nah im aite it doesnt affect me or anything in my daily life not saying i cant take it. im just saying ppl are racist in this province and some of the comments here reflected that for me.. its not a blatant racism, its a more reserved one

regarding service, if a white person brings a chinese person to a dim sum place here, they get seated fast and served well. in other places not so much. it works both ways and both ways are racist.

[LiquidTurbo]

Un-Liked their FB page.

[rsx]

Food bloggers are as annoying as people constantly posting instagram pictures of their food. Is it me or is taste relative? The only real thing they can have any objective opinion on is service, pricing and parking; the rest is subjective.

Edit: The only real opinions I care about are people who actually know how to cook. Civilians who know how to real food (not just pasta and steaks) and chefs.

[Meowjin]

Food bloggers are as annoying as people constantly posting instagram pictures of their food. Is it me or is taste relative? The only real thing they can have any objective opinion on is service, pricing and parking; the rest is subjective.

Edit: The only real opinions I care about are people who actually know how to cook. Civilians who know how to real food (not just pasta and steaks) and chefs.

then unfollow them on instagram dumbass

it's like dumbfucks who come up to me "HEY MAN ALL YOU DO IS POST FOOD ON FACEBOOK"

then unsubscribe.

[Vansterdam]

+1 unsubscribe if you dont like

all i do is take pics of my food lol U MAD BRO?

[bing]

Food bloggers are as annoying as people constantly posting instagram pictures of their food. Is it me or is taste relative? The only real thing they can have any objective opinion on is service, pricing and parking; the rest is subjective.

Edit: The only real opinions I care about are people who actually know how to cook. Civilians who know how to real food (not just pasta and steaks) and chefs.

Even more annoying are people who bitch and whine when they have a choice to read or ignore it. How is this any different than movie critics? newspapers/media with political leanings? political parties who espouse certain ideology? lots of things are subjective but they provide a certain viewpoint that is up to you whether to accept or reject it.

[rsx]

I do unsubscribe from them. I'm just stating my opinion on 'foodie critics'

Although, I will disagree with Bing's comment; I think political, ideology or philosophical commentary is entirely in a different tier.

[drunkrussian]

im all for amateurs posting food - thats not a money making food blog, its ur personal blog. im also for ppl who can write and blog who food blog.

what annoys me is the amateur who acts all pro...or the pro who takes himself far too seriously. the key is to enjoy it and have fun wit it - its food

[Tim Budong]

The definition of a Foodie in the past 18months has become...

I have a camera, I post pictures, I write a paragraph about food. Im a foodie

[too_slow]

^It's true... All of a sudden, everyone's a foodie/food critic

[Meowjin]

I just like fucking eatting good food

[BlackZRoadster]

The definition of a Foodie in the past 18months has become...

I have a camera, I post pictures, I write a paragraph about food. Im a foodie

That describes most foodies out there.

I find if you know how to take pictures and write, it doesn't mean you have good taste in food.

I find all these bloggers don't know anything about good food, more like they write on cheap food.

[Meowjin]

cheap food can be good, just gotta find the super in the whole in the wall.

[Tim Budong]

"foodie"

pics of azns taking pics of food (http://picsofaznstakingpicsoffood.tumblr.com/page/2)

BWAHAHHA

[Ronin]

Food bloggers are as annoying as people constantly posting instagram pictures of their food. Is it me or is taste relative? The only real thing they can have any objective opinion on is service, pricing and parking; the rest is subjective.

Edit: The only real opinions I care about are people who actually know how to cook. Civilians who know how to real food (not just pasta and steaks) and chefs.

Food blogging is the same as anything else. It's opinion. You're free to agree or disagree.

However, lots of good food bloggers give lots of information that isn't subjective. Is a medium rare steak medium rare? How long does it take to get service? Do they take reservations? Plus you usually get pictures/video from real life people rather than the restaurant's website...and if you're like me, you absolutely HATE how most restaurants do websites with stupid flash movies, loud lounge music and you have to dig through mountains of shit just to find their menus which don't have f'n prices on them.

And hey, if food blogging annoys you, you don't have to read. No one is pulling a Clockwork Orange on you. That just tells me you're annoying yourself on purpose, you masochist weirdo.

I find all these bloggers don't know anything about good food, more like they write on cheap food.

I find that anyone that says something like this doesn't know what good food is.

[BlackZRoadster]

^i know tonnes of good food, but i'm not a good writer nor am i creative.

my post wasnt directed at you, but in general.

[LiquidTurbo]

Here's how you determine whether food is good or not. You remove price from the equation. Good food comes cheap, or expensive, and bad food is available in both.

[LiquidTurbo]

Edit: The only real opinions I care about are people who actually know how to cook. Civilians who know how to real food (not just pasta and steaks) and chefs.

Cool. But I gotta ask, do you take the same approach toward people who review cars who don't design them, or movie reviewers who can't direct films?

[BlackZRoadster]

^ I agree with you, but most good food (michelin star(s)) are expensive.

[LiquidTurbo]

^ I agree with you, but most good food (michelin star(s)) are expensive.

How do you define 'good' food? I know a TON of good food that isn't 'Michelin Star' rated. Heck, there aren't even any Michelin Star restaurants in Canada. Does that mean there isn't good food in vancouver? :concentrate:

[Phozy]

Everyone has different tastes. Curry can taste like shit to someone and amazing to others.

"Good food", to me, is food that stands out from the rest of its kind. Be it pho, dim sums, steak houses, if its better than the rest I've eaten, it's good food to me. Sure all the rest tastes good, just not AS good. And if a group of people agree, then it just means you're not alone when you say its good.

[BlackZRoadster]

I'm not saying all good food must be Michelin star, I'm just using it as an example.

Quality food will always be expensive.

[LiquidTurbo]

I'm not saying all good food must be Michelin star, I'm just using it as an example.

Quality food will always be expensive.

http://camerasandcuisines.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/DSC_5039e-950x629.jpg

Chicago Hot Dog, $2.50. Many agree one of the best hot dogs in Chicago.

Quality food doesn't mean fine dining. A lot of home cooked food is pretty quality, ie. mom's cooking. Food made with love usually is good quality also.

Just my two cents.

[Meowjin]

I think the best thing to eat in vancouver is the nammer subs from hung ting. Seriously.

[LiquidTurbo]

^ Do you mean Tung Hing?

[Ronin]

I'm not saying all good food must be Michelin star, I'm just using it as an example.

Quality food will always be expensive.

That's exactly what I'm talking about. Price has no bearing on whether food is good or not. None. One of the best steaks I've ever had in my life was $5, bought on the streets of Frankfurt from a non-descript tent during the 2006 World Cup. Not near the stadium...in the business district. Seriously. Amazing fries as well. My friends and I regard that as one of the highlights of our backpacking trip.

On the flip side, I've had steaks that claim to be raised on grass that only grows on the moon, dry aged for an eternity and cost a fortune that...well, just weren't that good.

It doesn't matter what food costs. It just matters how it tastes.

[BlackZRoadster]

I like o-toro and I can't find a place that serves it cheap. I like steaks aged 90-120 days and those come at a premium. I like wagyu and it's not cheap.

I love ikura, uni, geoduck, hamachi, Madai sushi but can't find any place that serves it cheap and good at the same time. Steamed rock cod is one of my favorite cooked fish dishes, and most restaurants serve it at $25 a pound.

Of course I also love cheap food like poutine, fried chicken , pho and what not. The last time I read a blogger talk about red wagon, I went there to try it and was hugely disappointed. I find the "hole in the wall" places are really subjective. I don't like phom penh and ppl praise it like no tomorrow. For me personally, I like to read about fancy specialty restaurants and go try them if they are good.
Are there any bloggers in Vancouver that focus mostly on fine dining?

[SkinnyPupp]

Strong user status

[Ronin]

I remember I gave him that awhile back but I don't remember what for.

But I guess this is a pretty good example.

[MindBomber]

I like o-toro and I can't find a place that serves it cheap. I like steaks aged 90-120 days and those come at a premium. I like wagyu and it's not cheap.

I love ikura, uni, geoduck, hamachi, Madai sushi but can't find any place that serves it cheap and good at the same time. Steamed rock cod is one of my favorite cooked fish dishes, and most restaurants serve it at $25 a pound.

Of course I also love cheap food like poutine, fried chicken , pho and what not. The last time I read a blogger talk about red wagon, I went there to try it and was hugely disappointed. I find the "hole in the wall" places are really subjective. I don't like phom penh and ppl praise it like no tomorrow. For me personally, I like to read about fancy specialty restaurants and go try them if they are good.
Are there any bloggers in Vancouver that focus mostly on fine dining?

In other words, the cost of the ingredients used to prepare a dish is of greater importance than the preparation in your assessment of it.

[CRS]

I like o-toro and I can't find a place that serves it cheap. I like steaks aged 90-120 days and those come at a premium. I like wagyu and it's not cheap.

I love ikura, uni, geoduck, hamachi, Madai sushi but can't find any place that serves it cheap and good at the same time. Steamed rock cod is one of my favorite cooked fish dishes, and most restaurants serve it at $25 a pound.

Of course I also love cheap food like poutine, fried chicken , pho and what not. The last time I read a blogger talk about red wagon, I went there to try it and was hugely disappointed. I find the "hole in the wall" places are really subjective. I don't like phom penh and ppl praise it like no tomorrow. For me personally, I like to read about fancy specialty restaurants and go try them if they are good.
Are there any bloggers in Vancouver that focus mostly on fine dining?

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Ah, yes, quite.

Hmm, rather.

[CorneringArtist]

For me it's a balance between food being filling and overall cost. I can't justify paying $100 for a 2-inch by 2-inch piece of space grass-fed steak, and three small pieces of vegetables grown in the Himalayas and have to go to McDonalds after the meal because I was still hungry (This is why I hate shows like Top Chef, where they consider a tiny-ass plate of food a "complete dish"). On the other hand, I'd pay $20 for a decent steak, with a sizable portion of greens on the side, and leave satisfied.

[BlackZRoadster]

In other words, the cost of the ingredients used to prepare a dish is of greater importance than the preparation in your assessment of it.

It's not the cost of the ingredients that makes the dish good, but the quality of the ingredient does play a huge part in it.

I've steamed fresh rock cod and pan fried Australian wagyu at home. Both were easy to make but it was so damn good. Better than steak I've had at Hy's.

[too_slow]

I like o-toro and I can't find a place that serves it cheap. I like steaks aged 90-120 days and those come at a premium. I like wagyu and it's not cheap.

I love ikura, uni, geoduck, hamachi, Madai sushi but can't find any place that serves it cheap and good at the same time. Steamed rock cod is one of my favorite cooked fish dishes, and most restaurants serve it at $25 a pound.

Of course I also love cheap food like poutine, fried chicken , pho and what not. The last time I read a blogger talk about red wagon, I went there to try it and was hugely disappointed. I find the "hole in the wall" places are really subjective. I don't like phom penh and ppl praise it like no tomorrow. For me personally, I like to read about fancy specialty restaurants and go try them if they are good.
Are there any bloggers in Vancouver that focus mostly on fine dining?


Do you use $100 bills to wipe your ass and your face too? This thread isn't about you. Nobody cares

[drunkrussian]

Quality food will always be expensive.

i suggest you watch a few episodes of anthony bourdaine's no reservations. it will prove that quality food can be dirt cheap or incredibly expensive. like many products, food pricing is determine by cost of goods and moreso, marketing. Jordan sneakers are made in a chinese factory for cheap, but cost $250+ and regarded by many sneaker freaks as the only shoes to collect.

[BlackZRoadster]

Do you use $100 bills to wipe your ass and your face too? This thread isn't about you. Nobody cares

Still hurt over something?

[too_slow]

Still hurt over something?

Yeah, that you have to resort to scamming people to pay for your leased toys.
Stay classy, Philip.

(too bad that thread got black-holed in the FC..)

[HonestTea]

Yeah, that you have to resort to scamming people to pay for your leased toys.
Stay classy, Philip.

(too bad that thread got black-holed in the FC..)

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[Ronin]

Congratulations, BlackZRoadster. You've successfully found the one and only wrong answer for "What makes food good?"

[BlackZRoadster]

Yeah, that you have to resort to scamming people to pay for your leased toys.
Stay classy, Philip.

(too bad that thread got black-holed in the FC..)

Sorry all my cars were bought out except the 335i, i want a new car every 3-4 years so it's best to lease. I've never scammed anyone, i just remember selling you a lcd screen that you installed incorrectly and caused it to flicker. That was like 8 years ago? Get a life and move on. You'll never get anywhere in life living in the past. You still talk like the guy who was whining 8 years ago.

If you want to continue on, send me a PM instead of posting in other peoples threads and going off topic.

[BlackZRoadster]

Congratulations, BlackZRoadster. You've successfully found the one and only wrong answer for "What makes food good?"

You have your opinion and i have my own on what is good food to me.

So anyone who disagrees with you needs to be put down by you?

When you are a food blogger who has a public page, i'm sure not everyone agrees with you.

Anyways, i dont want to argue with you, but i'm sure you are proud of what you do. Just need to be less agressive towards others with different opinion.

Let's leave it at that.

[Ronin]

That's what happens when you tell people the only way food is good is if it costs a ton of money. :lol

[BlackZRoadster]

I didn't say all, I just said most good food is expensive.


Good job for qualifying in the top 3 though, you beat most of the competition. By that fact I should stop debating about food with you.

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[Tim Budong]

NO
most of the best food i've had in fact wasn't expensive

Food is a culture. I hate how some people just HAVE to think that good food is expensive when it isnt.

[Graeme S]

Expensive ingredients can taste good and make good food. An idiot can also make them taste like ass. Having expensive ingredients does not make good food. But good food can be made out of less costly ingredients as well.

[SkinnyPupp]

Sometimes the most expensive food is horrible tasting, bland, or at least pointlessly expensive. Re: shark fin, abalone, anything with truffle oil

[Grandmaster TSE]

simple is always good in my books

[Meowjin]

Yeah, that you have to resort to scamming people to pay for your leased toys.
Stay classy, Philip.

(too bad that thread got black-holed in the FC..)

coles notes?

[LiquidTurbo]

Sometimes the most expensive food is horrible tasting, bland, or at least pointlessly expensive. Re: shark fin, abalone, anything with truffle oil

YES. Fuck everything about sharkfin, etc. Shark fin is nothing but a bunch of "BlackZRoadsters" thinking they are eating 'good food'. Shark Fin is NOT good food.

[Ronin]

It's a real shame they don't just make the delicious broth with other stuff rather than shark fin. Seriously, it's the broth that makes that dish, not the shark fin. The fin is mostly tasteless and I could do without the texture if it was replaced with something else.

[Ch28]

I actually much prefer the crab meat and fish maw soup over shark fin soups during chinese dinner banquets

[BlackZRoadster]

YES. Fuck everything about sharkfin, etc. Shark fin is nothing but a bunch of "BlackZRoadsters" thinking they are eating 'good food'. Shark Fin is NOT good food.

I actually like sharks fin soup, but i don't eat it ever since i found out how cruel and inhumane it is.

[BlackZRoadster]

It's a real shame they don't just make the delicious broth with other stuff rather than shark fin. Seriously, it's the broth that makes that dish, not the shark fin. The fin is mostly tasteless and I could do without the texture if it was replaced with something else.

You probably have tried "immitation shark fin soup"? I find those are quite a good substitute.

I actually like thick snake soup, try the place in empire food court. They are pretty good but sold out by afternoon.

[sonick]

anything with truffle oil

Especially considering the fact that truffle oil is mostly synthetic and probably doesn't contain ONE molecule that comes from a real truffle.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/16/dining/16truf.html?_r=1

[freakshow]

I feel like i'm just throwing gasoline on a fire.. but just to clarify, the ingredients CAN make a HUGE difference on the food.
It's obviously not true that all expensive food is good, or that all cheap food is bad, but I think BlackZ is just saying that there are a lot of times where, to have the best food, you need to pay a higher price, and the higher price comes partially from the quality of the ingredients used.

[BlackZRoadster]

^ exactly.

When people ask where is the best sushi, probably 8 out of 10places listed are nice places that arent cheap.
Where is the best steak? Most times Gothams, Hy's is mentioned, and they aren't cheap.
Best Chinese Dim sum? Sea Harbour is my favorite and it's not cheap.
Best French Restaurant? Le Crocodile, and again it ain't cheap.

Again, people can disagree, but i'm just saying whenever you hear "good food" most people would associate it with fine dining or nice places with higher prices.

[Graeme S]

No, I think when you hear good food you think fine dining. When I think good food, I think something that satisfies. Fine dining is often an acquired taste, something that needs to be tasted into. If you got ten random people to taste the difference between keg prime rib and Gotham's, I'm not sure they'd all agree.

One of my dad's friends is a wine aficionado. He spends a ton of money on wine, and I got to try a few of his at a tasting. Turns out the one I liked most was a lower-middle end one. My dad likes the cheap stuff. In the end you yourself are the only one who can decide what good food means for you; what's good is just what you like.

[Ronin]

You probably have tried "immitation shark fin soup"? I find those are quite a good substitute.

I actually like thick snake soup, try the place in empire food court. They are pretty good but sold out by afternoon.

Well, no, I basically mean shark fin soup made at the same high level that it is WITH the shark fin but without the actual shark fin. The "imitation" shark fin soup is basically made quickly with the same ingredients but not quite the same. Actual shark fin soup's broth is thick and rich.

[Ronin]

^ exactly.

When people ask where is the best sushi, probably 8 out of 10places listed are nice places that arent cheap.
Where is the best steak? Most times Gothams, Hy's is mentioned, and they aren't cheap.
Best Chinese Dim sum? Sea Harbour is my favorite and it's not cheap.
Best French Restaurant? Le Crocodile, and again it ain't cheap.

Again, people can disagree, but i'm just saying whenever you hear "good food" most people would associate it with fine dining or nice places with higher prices.

Which would be wrong.

You're right in that expensive food is usually good. That's a no brainer. Restaurants that charge high prices can usually justify those prices with good food and the ones that can't aren't in business very long.

HOWEVER, you're saying that only expensive food is good...that food has to be expensive to be good, which is ridiculous. Yes, great steaks are expensive but as I said, one of the best steaks I've ever had cost $5. Food doesn't HAVE to be expensive to be good. Heck, the best sushi I've ever had...heads and shoulders above anything I've ever had here in Vancouver (haven't been to Tojo) was $30.

Fine dining means table cloths and waiters that tell me I've made a good choice, SIR, not that the food is better than a cheap hole in the wall.

And the argument falls apart when you get to food where it is NEVER expensive. I don't mean like...hot dogs and burgers because I've eaten a $100 burger but what about when you head to Asia? Are you going to tell me none of that food is good because none of it costs more than $10?

I apologize that I was a bit rude earlier but still, I can't begin to tell you how wrong this is. You're right that high quality ingredients make better food but it isn't necessary. Hell, if you asked me tomorrow to make a stew with wagyu, I'd tell you you'd save money AND make a better dish with cheap shoulder cuts.

[Ronin]

No, I think when you hear good food you think fine dining. When I think good food, I think something that satisfies. Fine dining is often an acquired taste, something that needs to be tasted into. If you got ten random people to taste the difference between keg prime rib and Gotham's, I'm not sure they'd all agree.

One of my dad's friends is a wine aficionado. He seems ends a ton of money on wine, and I got to try a few of his at a tasting. Turns out the one I liked most was a lower-middle end one. My dad likes the cheap stuff. In the end you yourself are the only one who can decide what good food means for you; what's good is just what you like.

Good food to me is "Oh man, this is awesome, I want more of this in my face right the fuck now."

Doesn't matter if it's hand made pasta with sea urchin and caviar dusted with truffles or a chili cheese dog. Good food is good food.

[dinamix]

Good food to me is "Oh man, this is awesome, I want more of this in my face right the fuck now."

Doesn't matter if it's hand made pasta with sea urchin and caviar dusted with truffles or a chili cheese dog. Good food is good food.

u nailed it.

[dinamix]

This thread reminds me of Anthony Bourdain for some reason. He knows what good food is.

[Tim Budong]

This thread reminds me of Anthony Bourdain for some reason. He knows what good food is.

he also understands food culture
makes a world of a difference

[SpuGen]

Good food to me is "Oh man, this is awesome, I want more of this in my face right the fuck now."

Doesn't matter if it's hand made pasta with sea urchin and caviar dusted with truffles or a chili cheese dog. Good food is good food.

Exactly.

Good food could be that bowl of Pho at Phnom Penh, at 5am, after a long night of drinking. It could be the Double Quarter Pounder Meal + 20 Piece nuggets with Big Mac sauce, after a sesh. Or, It could just be the 6 Strips of Bacon, and 4 eggs in the morning with a cup of coffee.

I'm surprised Hyde hasn't shown up in this thread, talking about how he wont eat anything that isn't covered in shaved gold.

Back on topic though.
I'm totally expecting these girls to react like this when they eat in Richmond.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NoGnOpVI1U