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6 motorcyclists nabbed going 162 km/h in Squamish
Traum
08-23-2013, 03:35 PM
Six motorcyclists nabbed going 162 kilometres an hour in Squamish - BC | Globalnews.ca (http://globalnews.ca/news/799180/six-motorcyclists-nabbed-going-162-kilometres-an-hour-in-squamish/)
Police stopped six motorcyclists in their tracks after they were caught speeding upwards of 162 kilometres an hour on the Sea to Sky Highway in Squamish.
Traffic officers pulled over the group driving Ducati, Honda and Aprillia motorbikes at around 9 p.m. while they were travelling southbound on Highway 99 at Porteau Road on Thursday.
The group was observed driving at around 140 kilometres an hour, but sped up when they saw police.
The lead motorcyclist was clocked speeding 162 kilometres an hour in an 80 kilometre zone.
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(full story from above link)
I fully expect the usual debate between the 140-isn't-that-fast crowd and the OMFG-they-were-doing-double-the-speed-limit group. What struck me, however, was that they sped up when they saw the police.
Do people really think they can outrun the cops? :badpokerface:
twitchyzero
08-23-2013, 03:40 PM
160kph in the dark
i'd like to see them outmanuever a deer at that speed coming around a bend
Gumby
08-23-2013, 03:45 PM
Video: Motorcyclist Crashes Into Bear in Canada - YouTube
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Do people really think they can outrun the cops? :badpokerface:[/QUOTE]
yes, people think so, its been done;;
MindBomber
08-23-2013, 04:56 PM
yes, people think so, its been done;;
Well, let's see.
Radio waves constitute a narrow band in the electromagnetic spectrum that includes light, radio, cellphone, and et cetera. The entire es travels at the speed of light, which is 186,000 miles per second, or more pertinently, 1,079,252,848 kilometers per hour. The Squamish Constable's radio to police patrolling the Sea to Sky ahead of the motorcyclists was thus travelling 6,662,054 times faster than them. The motorcyclists stood no chance, outrunning police on the Sea to Sky is impossible.
E60_M5
08-23-2013, 06:07 PM
I wouldn't believe all of what they are saying and take the part that "they were trying to outrun the cop" with a grain of salt. the news media is known to make shit up.
jnesss
08-23-2013, 06:17 PM
you can outrun the cops, but you cant outrun the radio and helicopters LOL.
punkwax
08-23-2013, 07:56 PM
A lot of guys on street bikes drive like assholes. Not all of them. Lots of responsible riders out there, but a LOT do. We've all seen them.
I know a guy who outran a cop on his R1 IN THE STATES. He didn't realize how fast he was going until he looked down and saw his speedo bouncing on the (IIRC) 220 mark. When he told me the story I told him it was pretty stupid.
Got through the border too... lucky the cop didnt notice the BC plate.
68style
08-24-2013, 06:25 AM
I don't know their circumstances, but honestly anytime I've ever taken my bike on S2S at some point when it was a clear straightaway with no cars I've eclipsed 200 for a few seconds and then slowed back down, never felt like I was in danger... like that uphill straightaway before Squamish... meh. It only takes like 4-5 seconds of acceleration on a big bike to hit north of 200.
That said, doing it in a big group with poor visibility is just asking for it and everyone worth their salt knows S2S is a complete heat score at the best of times.
Soundy
08-24-2013, 06:29 AM
I was listening to this story on the radio yesterday; the cop being interviewed stated the bikes were running 1-2m apart at those speeds. Nevermind wildlife, all it takes is one bike to lose it, and everyone behind him is toast too.
i'll admit it....first thing i thought when i read this...
DMX - Ruff Ryders' Anthem - YouTube
Gridlock
08-24-2013, 08:16 AM
Well, let's see.
Radio waves constitute a narrow band in the electromagnetic spectrum that includes light, radio, cellphone, and et cetera. The entire es travels at the speed of light, which is 186,000 miles per second, or more pertinently, 1,079,252,848 kilometers per hour. The Squamish Constable's radio to police patrolling the Sea to Sky ahead of the motorcyclists was thus travelling 6,662,054 times faster than them. The motorcyclists stood no chance, outrunning police on the Sea to Sky is impossible.
Thanks Spock! Glad we have you on the bridge.
ToneCapone
08-24-2013, 09:22 AM
Do people really think they can outrun the cops? :badpokerface:
I heard if you can do better than 180 they can't catch you, so they don't even try.
:pokerface:
Do people really think they can outrun the cops? :badpokerface:
COPS TV Show, Officer Joe Morgan Talks About, Stuck on the Tracks, Des Moines Police Department - YouTube
:lawl:
MikeyStyle
08-24-2013, 11:31 AM
I heard if you can do better than 180 they can't catch you, so they don't even try.
:pokerface:
Tokyo Drift Skyline vs. Rx7 - Police Drive By
skip to 1:15
Mancini
08-25-2013, 08:50 AM
Good thing they weren't going really fast.
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FerrariEnzo
08-25-2013, 10:17 AM
they need to watch all those cop videos on youtube about trying to outrun cops...
Vale46Rossi
08-25-2013, 11:12 AM
More of this shit again.
kev1n9121
08-25-2013, 11:15 AM
you can outrun the cops, but you cant outrun the radio and helicopters LOL.
If Guy Martin can do it, so can you! :fullofwin:
How to out run a helicopter on a GSXR 1000 Superbike by Guy Martin - YouTube
ilvtofu
08-25-2013, 10:11 PM
I think the Tokyo Drift reference actually might have a point to make here. If the cops chasing you down makes you go even faster it not only increases the threat you pose to the public and to yourself, but also the chase car etc. poses.
It might not be worth it to make the roads more dangerous for everyone to hand out that ticket/impounding. Then again most motorists would probably stop/pull over at the sight of cops
xpl0sive
08-26-2013, 11:36 AM
they picked a shitty place to try and outrun the cops.. no where to go on the sea to sky. a bunch of my buddies with bikes have told me stories of taking off from a cop trying to pull them over on the highway. the key is to get off the highway, since apparently they are not allowed to chase people on city streets....
Soundy
08-26-2013, 08:15 PM
the key is to get off the highway, since apparently they are not allowed to chase people on city streets....
Just keep believing that... :troll:
Spidey
08-26-2013, 08:20 PM
lol, just because you "outrun" the cops, doesn't mean you are in the clear. There are things called your licence plates. There are support units called "Air 1" aka helicopter. There are things called "be on the look out for" which are broadcasted to other jurisdictions. oh yea, and there is a Motor vehicle act fine for failing to stop for police, and a criminal code offence called obstruction.
Nlkko
08-26-2013, 08:26 PM
they picked a shitty place to try and outrun the cops.. no where to go on the sea to sky. a bunch of my buddies with bikes have told me stories of taking off from a cop trying to pull them over on the highway. the key is to get off the highway, since apparently they are not allowed to chase people on city streets....
Did they also tell you that the cops showed up at their places later? Because that's what my buddy with bike told me.
Hard to outrun the long dick of the law.
xpl0sive
08-26-2013, 08:28 PM
most people I know with bikes have this clever contraption installed...
License Plate flipper - YouTube
i'm not promoting running away from the police, i'm just saying that it's been done and it's not impossible....
Soundy
08-26-2013, 08:30 PM
most people I know with bikes have this clever contraption installed...
License Plate flipper - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maIsH2Nf2IU)
That's so cool, so they can get a ticket for that as well when Air One follows them home!
BoostedBB6
08-26-2013, 08:34 PM
162 in an 80....that's the definition of moron right there.
I bet they were all rocking the stick on mullets and decked out in ICON gear.
There really should be an iQ test before the knowledge test.
Spidey
08-26-2013, 08:36 PM
162 in an 80....that's the definition of moron right there.
I bet they were all rocking the stick on mullets and decked out in ICON gear.
There really should be an iQ test before the knowledge test.
at least they got caught and lost their vehicles for 7 days. and a hefty VT
BoostedBB6
08-26-2013, 08:43 PM
More than double the posted limit....yeah 7 days losing there vehicle is enough.....yeah no.
License=privilege....privileges should be permanently revoked when you pull crap like this.
JaPoola
08-26-2013, 11:32 PM
162 in an 80....that's the definition of moron right there.
I bet they were all rocking the stick on mullets and decked out in ICON gear.
There really should be an iQ test before the knowledge test.
A sportbike can easily take a corner at double the posted speed, especially true with the low posted speeds on BC roads.
46_valentinor
08-26-2013, 11:38 PM
i like how the moment a thread like this pops up, everyone (well a number) suddenly becomes a 100% law abiding citizen in the thread.
dee242
08-27-2013, 02:27 AM
Running from the Cops 101 - YouTube
pretty easy imo
Soundy
08-27-2013, 06:47 AM
A sportbike can easily take a corner at double the posted speed, especially true with the low posted speeds on BC roads.
I'm sure the same thing was the last thought going through Luc Bourdon's mind. Well... second-last, right before "OH SHI....."
91civicZC
08-27-2013, 07:19 AM
A sportbike can easily take a corner at double the posted speed, especially true with the low posted speeds on BC roads.
I disagree 100% with this statement.
But even if it WAS true, it doesn’t matter what the bike CAN do, it matters what the rider DOES.
I would say over half of the people I see riding bikes in the GVA ride poorly, or with a huge chip on their shoulder trying to make sure they look as bad ass as possible.
It hard to look awesome when your crumpled into a wall wondering what’s going to be amputated, or watching a cop pull your missing fingers out of a Truck grill because the rider couldn’t keep up with what the bike COULD do in a corner. Fast bike does not equal automatic talent for the rider.
JaPoola
08-27-2013, 10:31 AM
I disagree 100% with this statement.
But even if it WAS true, it doesn’t matter what the bike CAN do, it matters what the rider DOES.
I would say over half of the people I see riding bikes in the GVA ride poorly, or with a huge chip on their shoulder trying to make sure they look as bad ass as possible.
It hard to look awesome when your crumpled into a wall wondering what’s going to be amputated, or watching a cop pull your missing fingers out of a Truck grill because the rider couldn’t keep up with what the bike COULD do in a corner. Fast bike does not equal automatic talent for the rider.
DO you even ride dude?
dachinesedude
08-27-2013, 10:46 AM
162 in an 80....that's the definition of moron right there.
I bet they were all rocking the stick on mullets and decked out in ICON gear.
There really should be an iQ test before the knowledge test.
is that your stereotype for a motorcyclist?
DO you even ride dude?
hillmar
08-27-2013, 10:50 AM
I disagree 100% with this statement.
But even if it WAS true, it doesn’t matter what the bike CAN do, it matters what the rider DOES.
I would say over half of the people I see riding bikes in the GVA ride poorly, or with a huge chip on their shoulder trying to make sure they look as bad ass as possible.
It hard to look awesome when your crumpled into a wall wondering what’s going to be amputated, or watching a cop pull your missing fingers out of a Truck grill because the rider couldn’t keep up with what the bike COULD do in a corner. Fast bike does not equal automatic talent for the rider.
Most riders that aren't that great of riders hang out at Starbucks shinning up there new sportbike, probly has chicken strips all over there tires. Don't think those poser's would want to get bug mess over there new rides taking it up there.
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91civicZC
08-27-2013, 12:36 PM
DO you even ride dude?
Yup.
xpl0sive
08-27-2013, 12:39 PM
^
I think he was asking if you ride a motorcycle, not every cops and retarded law maker's dicks... same goes for other "saints" in this thread
91civicZC
08-27-2013, 01:00 PM
^
I think he was asking if you ride a motorcycle, not every cops and retaded law maker's dicks... same goes for other "saints" in this thread
Funny guy.
First, if you going to be internet hard, please do a spell check before you post, You spelled retarded wrong in an effort to mash that reply button.
Second, yes I ride. Not a sport bike, it’s right there in my sig, and certainly not everyone’s cup of tea. I grew up around bikes, Harleys mostly, but I have only been riding for a few years with a license. I’m betting I’ve put more mileage on my bike than most with trips around the Okanagan and out to places like Head smashed in Alberta. I’m ashamed to say though; I have yet to even be on my bike this year. Car projects came first. Not sure what any of that has to do with my comments above
As far as being a “dick rider” for the cops and “law makers”, I’m thinking you have me mistaken. Perhaps your reading comprehension is not the best. Re read my post, and please point out the portion that makes me a “dick rider”.
91civicZC
08-27-2013, 01:20 PM
And just as a note here, I haven’t even made comment on the people speeding, or the punishment. I still believe impounding vehicles or property is a power that should NOT be given to law enforcement unless directly related to a violent crime or purchased with money directly obtained by illegal means.
My only comment pertains to what I quoted, that a sport bike can easily do double the limit in a corner. Way to much to quantify here, type of corner, surface, other traffic, weather, tires, and way more. But most importantly, THE RIDER.
As above, it takes more than a fast bike to be fast in a corner and handle the bike well. I personally don’t think that many of the riders I see day to day can actually do that in an uncontrolled environment at 160km in most situations.
xpl0sive
08-27-2013, 02:06 PM
Funny guy.
First, if you going to be internet hard, please do a spell check before you post, makes you look like a twit when you spell retarded wrong in order to get to press that reply button as quickly as possible.
Second, yes I ride. Not a sport bike, it’s right there in my sig, and certainly not everyone’s cup of tea. I grew up around bikes, Harleys mostly, but I have only been riding for a few years with a license. I’m betting I’ve put more mileage on my bike than most with trips around the Okanagan and out to places like Head smashed in Alberta. I’m ashamed to say though; I have yet to even be on my bike this year. Car projects came first. Not sure what any of that has to do with my comments above
As far as being a “dick rider” for the cops and “law makers”, I’m thinking you have me mistaken. Perhaps your reading comprehension is not the best. Re read my post, and please point out the portion that makes me a “dick rider”.
Seems I hit a nerve there?
it actually seems that you're the one who's nerve has been struck. I hope you forgive me for my typo, as I usually prefer for my responses to be immaculate...
91civicZC
08-27-2013, 02:16 PM
Meh. I take exception to being called a dick rider, and offence to the idea that I am blindly defending the RCMP, Police, or governments of BC. I don’t see that anywhere in what I posted.
twitchyzero
08-27-2013, 02:27 PM
i like how the moment a thread like this pops up, everyone (well a number) suddenly becomes a 100% law abiding citizen in the thread.
there's a time and a place for everything
double the speed limit in the dark on the S2S surely can't be a good idea....I'm curious if at that speed if it's overdriving the headlights even on the straights.
most people I know with bikes have this clever contraption installed...
i'm not promoting running away from the police, i'm just saying that it's been done and it's not impossible....
try doing that in the US...skip to 3 min mark
Maryland State Trooper draws gun on speeding motorcyclist - YouTube
Soundy
08-27-2013, 05:30 PM
Funny guy.
First, if you going to be internet hard, please do a spell check before you post, You spelled retarded wrong in an effort to mash that reply button.
you're*
:lawl:
91civicZC
08-27-2013, 06:10 PM
you're*
:lawl:
LOL
We don't have a foot in mouth icon?
Spidey
08-27-2013, 06:50 PM
I am still appalled by the ignorance in people's replies. Who gives a flying duck if someone goes 160 in an 80, and ends up killing him/herself. I know I couldn't care. It is when they take out innocent people with them, that is the issue (for me personally). And for that reason, I am all for keeping the speed limits the way they are right now, and the severe punishments associated with the offence. The laws are made to protect people. Sure, there are laws that are enforced to protect the individual, like seat belts, but speed limits and distracted driving laws are there to protect innocent people who have no reason to be killed because some moron decided to go 160 in an 80, or had their head down looking at their cell phone.
Soundy
08-27-2013, 08:55 PM
LOL
We don't have a foot in mouth icon?
Close enough! :duh:
Guy gets caught doing circle wheelies and runs from cops - YouTube
Soundy
08-27-2013, 09:39 PM
Guy gets caught doing circle wheelies and runs from cops - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9za7KDiSQo)
I was waiting for the big *BANG* a couple blocks down the street.
162 on the S2S? They were just cruising :ifyouknow:
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68style
08-27-2013, 10:39 PM
You guys are over-reacting... I've been on many group rides on S2S where we maintained constant speeds of 130-140km/h and nobody was being stupid or being dangerous or out of control or going above their abilities in any way whatsoever and most of those guys are well into their 40's (or even older!) with families and stuff so they're not your prototypical squid. It's very much relevant on a bike. I'm not saying it's "right" by the letter of the law, but some of you guys are acting like overbearing parents, which is fine I guess but don't judge unless you've been there yourself.
I'm certainly no daredevil myself and I could steer through most of the corners on that highway without my hands on the bars at those speeds on a 10+ year old 600cc sportbike... it's really not some life risking crazy thing like you're making it out to be.
Nlkko
08-27-2013, 11:07 PM
All fun and games until something unexpected happens and somebody ends up dead. Then people make threads to say RIP and how wonderful people they were.
68style
08-27-2013, 11:21 PM
^
That can happen to anyone... doing pretty much anything............................ there's risk involved in every single thing you do in your life every single day. How much? How little? It's still risk... so basically that statement is a cop-out. Every single person speeds every single time they drive no matter what they say whether it's by 1kmh or 20km/h or worse, that person has consciously accepted the risk that they may get ticketed... and yes, even accepted the risk that maybe something will happen and they'll die. That's life man, can't live in a bubble being afraid of what "might" happen all the time, you just have to make sure you don't take someone else with you if you're doing something socially unacceptable because that's not fair to the person who didn't accept that risk.
JaPoola
08-28-2013, 09:42 AM
Yup.
You've ridden / been around shitty cruisers your whole life yet you are commenting on sportbikes and sportbike riders? GTFO :stfu:
Ducdesmo
08-28-2013, 12:10 PM
The stuff that makes news these days..lol. 140 on S2S is pretty much crusing speeds for a bike that can outperform 99% of cars on the streets (given the right rider). Also I really dont see whats the big deal. For those that claim that they are endangering others, when do you ever see them take out anyone but themselves? No idea why everyone gets their panties in a wad over this.
snails
08-28-2013, 12:25 PM
^ i agree with you guys in the sense that its not the most outlandish thing ever and i have also driven the s2s in my car around this speeds with nothing dramatic in the way of losing control let alone even hearing a tire squeal
but
i think the reason media blows it out of proportion is to scare people from doing it, regardless if our cars can handle it or not, how a car loses control at high speeds vs low speeds are completely different and the edge of a cliff and a rock wall are both bad places to end up in a wreck.
last years bust on those 240's cruising the s2s scared me from cruising at those speeds this year going up to whistler... i like my car and i dont want it impounded, i know at those speeds my car handles those corners just fine... but still, not worth it
JaPoola
08-28-2013, 12:29 PM
The stuff that makes news these days..lol. 140 on S2S is pretty much crusing speeds for a bike that can outperform 99% of cars on the streets (given the right rider). Also I really dont see whats the big deal. For those that claim that they are endangering others, when do you ever see them take out anyone but themselves? No idea why everyone gets their panties in a wad over this.
Vancouver and BC in general is a very anti-car city / province, but even more anti-motorcycle. Probably because the cagers get all butthurt in the summer ( when most motorcyclists ride ) when I go right by in traffic while they're stuck in the scorching heat. Or maybe because when riding season come, they have to be double cautious when texting and driving, else they might kill a motorcyclist, and that would be a huge headache. Either way, the motorcyclist hate is strong in this city for sure.
xpl0sive
08-28-2013, 12:50 PM
American version of the S2S....
*MUST SEE* Bike Clocked at 153mph Cops Give up! - YouTube
NeoKaze92
08-28-2013, 01:13 PM
I'm really curious whether the Ducati was Jeffield Mak's Ducati, the guy shows it off everywhere he goes
Soundy
08-28-2013, 04:34 PM
The stuff that makes news these days..lol. 140 on S2S is pretty much crusing speeds for a bike that can outperform 99% of cars on the streets (given the right rider).
:derp:
Spidey
08-28-2013, 06:33 PM
:derp:
I am glad I was not the only one that thought that after I read it..... public streets are unpredictable, it isn't a race track. I don't care how good of a rider you are, you cannot predict an animal, pedestrian, a rock, or another vehicle. At such high speeds, I am pretty sure you won't be able to safely avoid sudden obstacles.
falcon
08-28-2013, 07:17 PM
Before the 40k over rules I remember riding the S2S on my bike in the +150's. And that was taking it pretty easy. It's not even a twisty highway, they are all very long open slow curves. Not tight. But these days I'm pretty lame and drive the limit everywhere mostly
twitchyzero
08-28-2013, 07:43 PM
The stuff that makes news these days..lol. 140 on S2S is pretty much crusing speeds for a bike that can outperform 99% of cars on the streets (given the right rider). Also I really dont see whats the big deal. For those that claim that they are endangering others, when do you ever see them take out anyone but themselves? No idea why everyone gets their panties in a wad over this.
my bad Larry Chu...140kph no problem.
If you don't think bike accidents can cause serious harm to other parties...do you wanna volunteer yourself to be in the head-on car when a bike collides into you @ double the speed limit to validate your claim? 140+ 80 impact...I'll even let you do the math.
Spidey
08-28-2013, 08:27 PM
my bad Larry Chu...140kph no problem.
If you don't think bike accidents can cause serious harm to other parties...do you wanna volunteer yourself to be in the head-on car when a bike collides into you @ double the speed limit to validate your claim? 140+ 80 impact...I'll even let you do the math.
I will pay to see this.
coolname
08-28-2013, 11:09 PM
American version of the S2S....
that lady that had the bikes crash into her was a bitch "i was scared because i could of been injured" that is your main concern not the dead bikers next to your car
Umm.. SUVs regularly drive north of 120KPH through S2S....
I cruise down there from time to time. Even a mediocre rider can definitely take those turns at 140.
While I'm not encouraging it, but come on, when do you drive AT 80 on S2S with no traffic? e-Saints here got to be a little more realistic and not over-exaggerate the severity of the speed. When you put it in proper context of the road conditions and the average driving speeds in those conditions, it's not as "extreme" as people make 162kph sound like.
It's like driving 80 on a 50 zone. Not that it's legal, but we've all done it.
Spidey
09-01-2013, 10:57 AM
Umm.. SUVs regularly drive north of 120KPH through S2S....
I cruise down there from time to time. Even a mediocre rider can definitely take those turns at 140.
While I'm not encouraging it, but come on, when do you drive AT 80 on S2S with no traffic? e-Saints here got to be a little more realistic and not over-exaggerate the severity of the speed. When you put it in proper context of the road conditions and the average driving speeds in those conditions, it's not as "extreme" as people make 162kph sound like.
It's like driving 80 on a 50 zone. Not that it's legal, but we've all done it.
Have we all done it? Yes. Would all of us on here own up to it if we were caught? By the replies on here, no.
snails
09-01-2013, 01:19 PM
Have we all done it? Yes. Would all of us on here own up to it if we were caught? By the replies on here, no.
lol i kinda did.. :lawl:
twitchyzero
09-01-2013, 01:25 PM
Umm.. SUVs regularly drive north of 120KPH through S2S....
I cruise down there from time to time. Even a mediocre rider can definitely take those turns at 140.
While I'm not encouraging it, but come on, when do you drive AT 80 on S2S with no traffic? e-Saints here got to be a little more realistic and not over-exaggerate the severity of the speed. When you put it in proper context of the road conditions and the average driving speeds in those conditions, it's not as "extreme" as people make 162kph sound like.
It's like driving 80 on a 50 zone. Not that it's legal, but we've all done it.
I'm not saying going over the speed limit is unreasonable
I'm saying doing 160 in the dark is extreme compared to the 220kph+ daredevil videos...but it is senseless regardless.
so you should learn to put it into context yourself...my statement was towards this case specifically don't generalize it.
mikemhg
09-04-2013, 04:29 PM
:lawl: At some people posting that you can't outrun the police.
I know a few guys out there that really don't care, they ride with hot plates, or with flippers, and don't stop if attempted to be pulled over (a lot of these guys have suspended licences in fact)
Can they get away? Sometimes yes.. Do they get caught? Some eventually, some not.
BTW, I am not avocating any of this, just FYI.
Traum
09-04-2013, 07:49 PM
:lawl: At some people posting that you can't outrun the police.
In general, do you think it is more likely to successfully outrun the police (and not get caught afterwards)? or is it more likely to be caught?
Hurricane
09-06-2013, 07:40 AM
In general, do you think it is more likely to successfully outrun the police (and not get caught afterwards)? or is it more likely to be caught?
Are you kidding me? You guys watch way too much TV.
Its much more likely to get away. Just drive like a maniac and they will lose you or call off the chase. Helicopters and heavy reinforcements don't get called in for speeding tickets.
I would venture to guess more chases end in crashes than anything else. So if you can avoid crashing, you will probably get away.
If you notice something about almost all of the chases on COPS and RealTV and so on - the people are being pursued for different reasons (armed robbery, kidnapping, outstanding felony warrants, shooting an officer) so they are throwing everything at them.
Also lol@ 160km/h being fast for a sportbike. They must have been taking the next exit.
Its impossible to go the speed limit on a sportbike on a nice highway like the s2s - and if you do, you shouldn't own one. Hence the reason I stopped riding sportbikes.
Its like owning a bunch of piranhas and feeding them lettuce.
I'm not saying going over the speed limit is unreasonable
I'm saying doing 160 in the dark is extreme compared to the 220kph+ daredevil videos...but it is senseless regardless.
so you should learn to put it into context yourself...my statement was towards this case specifically don't generalize it.
And this is where your context is inaccurate. The context is 162 in near dark, on the sea to sky highway, with no traffic, on sportbikes that can go up to 120kph on first gear.
You're either an inexperienced driver, or an e-saint, because you seriously lack the understanding of the mechanics of a sports bike, and the ability to contextualize a near empty highway with high speed turns.
Please learn to analyze before calling people out incorrectly. If cars can go 200+ on the highway without a problem, bikes can and. Therefore, 162kph is not an "extreme" speed in that situation. Nor is a bike going 162 extreme by any means because it'd probably still be using its 2nd /3rd gear.
Just hoping you'd understand.
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Soundy
09-06-2013, 11:21 AM
And this is where your context is inaccurate. The context is 162 in near dark, on the sea to sky highway, with no traffic, on sportbikes that can go up to 120kph on first gear.
You're either an inexperienced driver, or an e-saint, because you seriously lack the understanding of the mechanics of a sports bike, and the ability to contextualize a near empty highway with high speed turns.
Please learn to analyze before calling people out incorrectly. If cars can go 200+ on the highway without a problem, bikes can and. Therefore, 162kph is not an "extreme" speed in that situation. Nor is a bike going 162 extreme by any means because it'd probably still be using its 2nd /3rd gear.
Just hoping you'd understand.
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Analyze these, and keep in mind that, being a very twisty highway, the S2S has plenty of blind curves that give you little warning of objects in the road even AT the speed limit, let alone twice the limit with poor light:
Canada: Speeding Biker Hits Brown Bear At 87mph - YouTube
Shocking Motorcycle Crash into Bicycles 4/27/2013 - YouTube
Motorcycle Hits Deer @ 85 mph | Helmet Cam - YouTube
Dog vs Motorcycle rider caught on cam helmet accident crash - YouTube
Motorcycle Hits Deer @ 85 - FRAME/FRAME Slow-mo (watch original 1st) - YouTube
Notice Mr. Bigshot Rider screaming like a little bitch here after a deer runs in front of him too fast for him to even react, sending him ass-over-teakettle... and he's not even going that fast!:
Motorcycle Hits a Deer - YouTube
Motorcycle Hits Kangaroo dashcam - YouTube
Motorcyclist hits bird with face - YouTube
Note: when you come around the corner at double the speed limit, and a 900lb. animal suddenly appears in front of you, what gear you're in will be completely irrelevant to your survival.
Please learn about physics before calling people out incorrectly.
xpl0sive
09-06-2013, 11:41 AM
Note: when you come around the corner at double the speed limit, and a 900lb. animal suddenly appears in front of you, what gear you're in will be completely irrelevant to your survival.
Please learn about physics before calling people out incorrectly.
But at the end of the day, the rider is choosing to risk his own life and go double the speed limit. Most likely, he will not kill anyone else but himself if he were to crash. If this news story was about a bunch of cars racing up the S2S going double the speed limit, then sure they are idiots are deserve to have their cars impounded and licenses suspended.... But I don't think a bunch of bikes doing 160 is news/discussion worthy, since they most likely know what they are doing and are aware of the fact that, if they crash, they die.
Jas29
09-06-2013, 03:14 PM
Don't want to start a new thread so I'll put it here
VICTORIA (NEWS1130) – A man who was clocked going more than three times the speed limit will get to keep his luxury motorcycle.
The director of civil forfeiture took Jason Alan Dery to court in an attempt to seize the 40-year-old’s Ducati motorcycle for the speeding violation.
A court document says Dery exceeded a speed of 200 kilometres an hour on July 2, 2011 while on a road near Victoria.
BC Supreme Court Justice Gregory Bowden says while he doesn’t condone Dery’s behaviour, the government didn’t prove the motorcycle was an “instrument of unlawful activity.”
He says the act of speeding was not enough to result in forfeiture, and the government didn’t prove the motorbike’s operation was likely to cause serious bodily harm to a person.
Bowden’s ruling says Dery, who has committed 39 motor-vehicle offences since 1990, has been deterred from similar behaviour in the future because of the penalties he’s accumulated.
Vancouver Island man won't lose bike for breaking 200 km/h | News1130 (http://m.news1130.com/2013/09/06/vancouver-island-man-wont-lose-bike-for-breaking-200-kmh/?cid=dlvr.it)
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4nik8
09-06-2013, 05:34 PM
Ah The age old wolf vs the sheep debate. I love these. Everyone clinging to that 80kph sign like Allah,God,Zeus and Horus placed it upon the earth them selves are the sheep. you obey the majority rule, these rules set out by men who seek to control you. It feeds you security makes you feel safe. like sheep passing laws about vegetarian practices. The wolf will undoubtedly and stubbornly disagree till your last breathe.
But that's just my opinion.
MindBomber
09-06-2013, 05:50 PM
Ah The age old wolf vs the sheep debate. I love these. Everyone clinging to that 80kph sign like Allah,God,Zeus and Horus placed it upon the earth them selves are the sheep. you obey the majority rule, these rules set out by men who seek to control you. It feeds you security makes you feel safe. like sheep passing laws about vegetarian practices. The wolf will undoubtedly and stubbornly disagree till your last breathe.
But that's just my opinion.
That is an absurdly existential take on obeying speed limits.
Wait. Wasn't the argument about the how extreme 162kph people made it sound like, not whether a fucking deer or a bear jumps out onto the road?
Regardless. 160 is not extreme, it's just simply fast. Therefore, it's not a daredevil act, and they're not insane. Pretty sure with all those turns (since s2s consists of sweepers after sweepers), the riders know what they're doing.
Again, I don't condone speeding, but you e-saints got to take your foot off your ass and be a little more in tune with reality.
Marco911
09-07-2013, 08:58 PM
Don't want to start a new thread so I'll put it here
Vancouver Island man won't lose bike for breaking 200 km/h | News1130 (http://m.news1130.com/2013/09/06/vancouver-island-man-wont-lose-bike-for-breaking-200-kmh/?cid=dlvr.it)
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This is the first case I have heard of a victim of civil forfeiture laws actually taking the case to court. Most of the previous cases where the Ferrari/M6 etc were "seized" was a result of out of court settlement. I am glad that the court is coming out against these unjust laws.
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