[toyota86]

I realize these posts come up a lot. I'm not a 16 year old looking for a first car. After numerous discussions with my car guy friends about what car to get next, I've come to a point where I've run out of fun cars I get super excited over to a point where I have to own/drive/try it. Talk about first world problems. Throw some ideas around. Thanks guys.

Here are my basic requirements:
-rwd or rear based awd
-manual
-no sunroof, no targa, no convertible
-not a boat, ideally between 1000-1500kg
-no rust
-no solid axle
-LSD must, clutch type preferred, ok with torsen, settle with viscous
-a/c, heat
-electric windows
-central lock
-abs
-seats 4 ok
-2 dr, 4 dr, or wagon
-na or boosted
-250 hp and up
-no beaters
-can be DIY/tinkered with at home
-parts availability high preferred
-something I haven't owned before
-within $10-20k budget

Here is what I've already owned:
1985 BMW E30 325E White
1985 TOYOTA AE86 SR5 COUPE Two Tone Silver/Black
1985 TOYOTA AE86 GTS HATCH Silver
1985 TOYOTA AW11 MR2 White
1986 TOYOTA AE86 GTS HATCH Two Tone Blue 1st
1986 TOYOTA AE86 GTS HATCH Two Tone Blue 2nd
1986 TOYOTA AE86 GTS HATCH Black
1986 TOYOTA AE86 GTS HATCH Black #2
1986 TOYOTA AE86 GTS HATCH Red
1987 TOYOTA AE86 GTS HATCH Red
1987 TOYOTA AE86 SR5 HATCH White
1987 MERCEDES BENZ 190E 2.3 16V Smoke Silver MT
1988 BMW E30 325ES Black
1988 BMW E30 325IS Dolphin Gray
1988 BMW E30 M3 Black
1989 TOYOTA AE95 Corolla SR5 AWD Wagon Red
1990 BMW E30 325IS Sterling Silver
1990 TOYOTA JZA70 Supra Blue
1990 NISSAN BNR32 Skyline GTR Nismo #440 Gunmetal
1991 BMW E30 318IS Red
1991 TOYOTA Cressida Black
1991 LEXUS UFC10 LS400 Gray
1992 SUBARU Legacy Sport Sedan 5 Speed Silver
1992 BMW E36 325IS Diamond Black
1993 BMW E36 325IS Red
1993 TOYOTA VCV10 Camry Sport Green
1993 TOYOTA AE95 Corolla 4WD Wagon Red
1993 TOYOTA Camry Sport Blue
1994 Volvo 940 Turbo Blue
1995 TOYOTA Avalon Red
1995 BMW E34 540i Black
1995 Honda Civic DX SE Coupe Red
1999 AUDI B5 A4 1.8T White
2001 BMW E38 740I Sport Black
2002 LEXUS IS300 Pearl White
2003 TOYOTA Camry Silver
2005 SUBARU Legacy GT Wagon Blue
2006 MAZDA Mazdaspeed 6 Silver
2006 SUBARU Legacy Silver
2007 SUBARU Legacy Spec B Diamond Gray Metallic
2010 MERCEDES BENZ GLK350 4matic Tenorite Grey
2013 BMW 328i XDrive

Cars I'm on the fence, sorta gusta:
JDM FD RX7 5MT
JDM JZA80 Supra 6MT
JDM S15 Spec R 6MT
JDM AE86 Trueno
JDM Altezza RS200
JDM JZX100 Chaser
EVO 6
240Z with Frankenstein swap LS, RB, 2J
BMW 2002 roundie
BMW E9 3.0CS
BMW E46 M3 6MT
BMW E39 M5
BMW Euro E36 M3 3.2L 6MT

[Lomac]

...and I thought I had ADD when it came to car ownership...

Sorry, no suggestions. Everything I can think of either falls outside your price range or requirement list...

Edit: Fiero GT?

[T4RAWR]

my vote goes to the chaser.

[Traum]

Good luck with maintenance on the FD RX-7. As nice a driver's car as that may be, reliability is not a strong suit for that car, especially when even the newest example of those are already 10+ years old. On the other hand, since you haven't tried a rotrary yet, I would suggest giving a late model RX-8 some thoughts. The car is loads of fun and sufficiently reliable if you stick to the later model years.

[Gucci Mane]

Mord Fustang?






:troll:

[twitchyzero]

I thought I clicked into the Gran Turismo thread :derp:

my vote goes to holding out for a few more months for an imported S15

[Stiig]

automatic v6 mustang

[jing]

RB25 or 1.5JZ Kouki S14
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[Energy]

Wow, you're looking for a very specific car.

2003-2005 AUDI B6 S4 AVANT Dolphin Grey

Meets almost all requirements... except sunroof?

[godwin]

RWD will take out most of the competition for parts availability.. BRZ.

[xjc11]

e46 m3

although a lot of them are probably over 20k.

[Energy]

2005 SUBARU IMPREZA WRX STI World Rally Blue

[Timpo]

Autobacs Garaiya

I believe they're 2001 and up so have to wait til 2016 or so...

http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/option_z32/imgs/5/5/55656e28.jpg

[jjson]

2004+ Honda S2000 with Spoon hardtop? :badpokerface:

[tofu1413]

heres one.

1974 Datsun 260Z w/ Skyline RB25DET Engine (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/bnc/cto/4002577074.html)


Id say JZX100 Chaser V out of that list.

[kakucaekz]

I'd say Chaser or an R34.

[boostfever]

2004+ Honda S2000 with Spoon hardtop? :badpokerface:

he said 250 bhp and up :derp:

i vote for skyline. R33 GTR or R34 GTT. easy to find a clean one between 10-20K

[Fafine]

e46 m3
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[CorneringArtist]

Would agree with an X100 Chaser or R34 GT-T. I would say JDM GC8 STi ver.6 or Mitsubishi Legnum/Galant VR4, but I think both fail to meet some of the criteria.
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[sdubfid]

C5 Z06
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[punkwax]

Probably don't meet all your criteria, but I've always thought a Lotus Elise would be a fun little car to rip around in. Not fun to get in or out of, but fun once you're in it..

[Timpo]

Probably don't meet all your criteria, but I've always thought a Lotus Elise would be a fun little car to rip around in. Not fun to get in or out of, but fun once you're in it..

Lotus is too expensive.

Mazda AZ-1
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6149/5925701789_24aca0f9ee_o.jpg

Daihatsu Copen
http://221616.com/shop/blog/p_08/G00912/files/20130717%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9A%E3%83%B3%E6%A8%AA.jpg

Honda Beat
http://cvimg01cv.c.yimg.jp/cvmaterials/magazine/photo_impression/2011/honda_beat/01_l.jpg

Suzuki Cappuccino
http://cdn.mkimg.carview.co.jp/carlife/images/UserCar/244028/p1.jpg

[see.lai]

^
lol

[tofu1413]

id actually like a cappuccino

[dared3vil0]

E46 M3 in Laguna Seca Blue. :sweetjesus:

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/8053/164ve.jpg

[roastpuff]

http://hooniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/1995-Toyota-Previa-LE-SC.jpg

:troll:

[Timpo]

http://www.aquasunmotorsports.com/images/campagna_t-rex_lrg.jpg

[toyota86]

Thanks guys for the input. Keep them coming. I actually love the cappuccino and previa. But it didn't make the cut because of availability. It's impossible to find a cap or a supercharged previa 5 speed. Been looking a C6 vettes as well but I need a 4 seater. Also why I'm only looking at JDM FD with the optional dog seats. As much as I want a Chaser, I refuse to buy a JDM car sight unseen. No one locally has one for sale that isn't a thrashed ex-drift car. E46 M3 seems to fit best but my sister is planning on picking one up in a year or so. It would be silly to have the same car. I can just hoon her car.

[toyota86]

http://www.aquasunmotorsports.com/images/campagna_t-rex_lrg.jpg

No

[tofu1413]

Thanks guys for the input. Keep them coming. I actually love the cappuccino and previa. But it didn't make the cut because of availability. It's impossible to find a cap or a supercharged previa 5 speed. Been looking a C6 vettes as well but I need a 4 seater. Also why I'm only looking at JDM FD with the optional dog seats. As much as I want a Chaser, I refuse to buy a JDM car sight unseen. No one locally has one for sale that isn't a thrashed ex-drift car. E46 M3 seems to fit best but my sister is planning on picking one up in a year or so. It would be silly to have the same car. I can just hoon her car.

four seats + vette = Pontiac GTO.

2004 pontiac GTO..5.7L. V8. 6speed. TRADES N (http://skagit.craigslist.org/ctd/4005827612.html) :lawl:

[Timpo]

Datsun SRL311
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6070/6106074472_ea3c17bbbf_o.jpg

Toyota Sport 800
http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/gamagori-toyota-sports-800.jpg

Mazda Cosmo Sport
http://www.mad4wheels.com/webpics/hires/00002903%20-%201967%20Mazda%20Cosmo%20sport/1967_Mazda_Cosmo_sport_004_8827.jpg

Isuzu 117 Coupe
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/drivingroovin/imgs/9/2/9210ab04.JPG

Honda S800
http://userdisk.webry.biglobe.ne.jp/015/297/72/N000/000/004/137491991221713221005_002.JPG

Nissan Skyline GT-R
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/kgc10kai47/imgs/5/3/53ab8e46.JPG

[dovo]

buy my jdm subaru :D its a fun car and almost meet all the req.
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[jaemc]

Wait for the S15

[320icar]

Genuine question, but if you haven't been satisfied by any of your previous cars, what makes you think a new one that is already extremely similar to 90% of your previous cars will fill that void?

I am not trying to be a smart ass. But maybe if you are getting another super similar car, it's time to try something completely different? Maybe it will fill your void.

Also, save up more money and import a Sierra cosworth or sapphire cosworth? Big turbo 2.0L fast fords might be your answer.
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[lowside67]

Is it really necessary to list 9 AE86s on separate lines?

[StylinRed]

GT Four Celica, mod it funs will be had

http://img.dooyoo.co.uk/GB_EN/orig/0/6/7/0/0/670010.jpg


600 bhp celica gt4 awd vs subaru sti vs supra 1020hp - YouTube

[twitchyzero]

Autobacs Garaiya

I believe they're 2001 and up so have to wait til 2016 or so...

weren't they built to customer specifications?

ha..good luck finding one under $20k any time soon



Also, save up more money and import a Sierra cosworth or sapphire cosworth? Big turbo 2.0L fast fords might be your answer.
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how much do they go for these days? 25k?
220hp AWD 1300kg :ahwow:

[TheBisnac]

An FD Rx7 is an extremely fun car. If you keep them well under 400whp, they actually are quite reliable as long as you watch things closely and maintain them. When my large single turbo FD was over 450, things started to go boom. Over 550, they really liked to go boom, but it was fun as hell!
If you do get an FD, I'd really look into the legality of the back seat. It is not bolted in at all, just glued. I personally wouldn't put my kids in the back, but to each their own :). The other thing with the back seats is that, as soon as you are more than 2ft tall, you really have to cram in there. My wife is around 5ft1, we had the front passenger seat moved all the way forward, and her knees were against her face being in the back seat, lol
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[ilvtofu]

Is it really necessary to list 9 AE86s on separate lines?

yeah I would suggest different cars if I thought he never owned a 2 tone AE86 lol

I know its not RWD but ITR might be a car you could get excited about. Fairly reliable and parts are not hard to find/relatively cheap.

Perhaps a good FWD is what you need to take you out of the "Must have RWD" mentality. I feel it's the same way most people are about Automatics, people drive so many shitty/boring automatic gearboxes and shun what the manufacturers are coming out with nowadays that are actually a lot of fun.

Genesis coupe gt might also fit your description and there are a few under 20k. Car is a little heavy but its not a bad drive.

[gilly]

a JDM AE86 Trueno does not have over 250hp lol

[smarv]

I like the evo 6 on your list, any other evo above it in year should meet most of your requirements. My first choice though would be a e46 m3 like some others were saying.

[gilly]

perhaps an evo 5?

1998 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution V GSR (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/cto/3934450771.html)

[BaoTurbo]

I would go for the supra. I was just about to pick that when I see it also on your interested list :)

Other option for below 250hp I would try FC maybe. No power but just fun I guess. Just a suggestion...

[westopher]

euro e36 M3 or supercharged NA spec e36 M3. For all the guys saying e46 m3, you wont find a decent one in that price range.

[dink]

BMW M coupe!!!

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicles/mseries/z4mcoupe/2006/allfacts/_shared/img/engine_m_chassis.jpg

[westopher]

Are those under 20k? Not being a dick, genuinely asking. Although I totally forgot, why the fuck isn't the earlier M coupe listed. I couldn't imagine a better fun car.
Ugh.... The clown shoe is so fucking awesome.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7112/7562706596_22d768448f_b.jpg

[westopher]

High milage, but cheap as fuck, and you can take a trip to cali to pick up the car and use the spare cash for maintenance, mods, and a cali vacation/roadtrip.
1999 BMW M Coupe (Bay Area, CA) **Updated Price** (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?2030088-1999-BMW-M-Coupe-(Bay-Area-CA)-**Updated-Price**)
Or supercharged mint as fuck daytona e36 M3 with only 59k for 15 grand
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?1982521-UBER-RARE-1995-BMW-M3-Daytona-Violet-59k-miles-supercharged-coilovers-BBS-in-GA

[duc_evo_sp]

1977 Porsche 911S (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/nvn/cto/4031558189.html)

[hud 91gt]

Z4 M is closer to 30g's. Ill get one, one of these days. the Z3 would certainly be in there though. Love them all.

[hk20000]

Unfortunately Previa here are the S/C and the 5 speeds are mutually exclusive.

Because this looks like hellafun.

PREVIA DRIFT - YouTube

A hardtop one of these will be LOL I can probably find a hard top version somewhere with that 286HP V6.
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/ctd/4012589226.html
Because you haven't specified a curb weight or if it has IRS yet.
keep that transfer case in 2WD high and off you go lol.

[T4RAWR]

Probably have more fun in a previa than any of those other cars

:ifyouknow:

[ae101]

^
or get a hiace lol

[xpl0sive]

I've been seriously considering this Z06 vette... just haven't convinced myself that I want it yet. I've spoken to the owner, he doesn't have the stock wheels which is a bit of a shame. Car needs to be tuned. Will easily do 500WHP... I haven't gone to look at it, but from the mod list, it's a good deal... no accidents/local car too

2002 Z06 Corvette (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/cto/3972898080.html)

[PLUJ]

G35 coupes are pretty cheap now, but maybe a bit heavy

[dared3vil0]

I've been seriously considering this Z06 vette... just haven't convinced myself that I want it yet. I've spoken to the owner, he doesn't have the stock wheels which is a bit of a shame. Car needs to be tuned. Will easily do 500WHP... I haven't gone to look at it, but from the mod list, it's a good deal... no accidents/local car too

2002 Z06 Corvette (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/cto/3972898080.html)

If i saw that a month ago it would be in the driveway... that is a damn good deal.

[dvst8]

S2000 with hardtop or get a FD if your mechanically inclined. :)

[fliptuner]

1992 toyota previa manual transmission 1500 (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/cto/4032131481.html)

Turbo it.

[fliptuner]

FS: 1990 Toyota Cressida 5spd (http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/bnc/cto/4059675158.html)

[Timpo]

What about that Low Cost vehicle called Locost?

http://www.locostusa.com/

http://www.locostusa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1872

http://www.locostusa.com/e1done3.jpg

[fliptuner]

Lotus Super 7? Those are fun.

[320icar]

^^ future realistic dream car
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[Timpo]

What about Saker GT? Powered by Subaru Impreza WRX STi. :fuckyea:

http://www.scorpiocars.net/images/fb_folder/8112.jpg
http://sakerracing.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/sakerus9bg.jpg
http://www.maycodesign.nl/images/saker_street_02.jpg
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4135/4782198891_83344ed9fe_z.jpg
http://www.knfilters.com/images/press/saker-sportscars1.jpg
http://imagineauto.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/blue-red.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i7/KiwiCarguy/Saker%20Stuff/SakerSVSinOzzie.jpg
http://www.gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/DSC_8884.jpg

[Timpo]

Lotus Super 7? Those are fun.

Caterham just introduced entry level Super 7
http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/602538.jpg
http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/602532.jpg
http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/602541.jpg
http://response.jp/imgs/zoom/602539.jpg