[Traum]

Fall vote could mandate new limits across BC | News1130 (http://www.news1130.com/2013/08/24/city-speed-limits-could-drop-from-50kmh-to-40kmh/)

VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) – An upcoming vote by the Union of British Columbia Municipalities (UBCM) could have drivers slowing down across the province.

Victoria councillor Shellie Gudgeon says the move would blanket all cities in the province and would reduce the default un-posted speed limit from 50km/h to 40km/h.

“It would be beneficial if it was a blanket 40k and where it was necessary to have it 50, 60, 70 kilometres an hour, then it would be signed,” says Gudgeon.

...

“I’ve heard some people make some comments that this is a non-driving crowd that’s pushing this. For the record, I drive a Porsche,” she says.
:lawl:

Who is UBCM and who is this idiot woman? Obviously she is living in her own little world in some small enclosed part of Victoria, and has never made the trip to any of the bigger municipalities across the province.

It never fails to amaze me how blatantly stupid some of our "politicians" are...

[wingies]

HAHA some of those "tour de france" sunday bikers could easily go 40km/h. Give them a ticket for speedin on their bike?

[bloodline129]

Soon enough we won't be able to drive at night cause its dangerous :P
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[twitchyzero]

the article doesn't even provide a rationale behind this move.

this city is trying to discourage everyone from driving or even taking the transit

#bikelanes4eva

[EmperorIS]

why 40 ? why not 30? hell why don't we go back to riding horses and man powered carriage? Those are way more romantic and great for uneducated manual labour job creation

[Vale46Rossi]

What the fuck?

"I drive a Porsche" doesn't mean anything.

Shut the fuck up, fucking methed up bitch.

http://www.timescolonist.com/polopoly_fs/1.70397.1360394664!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_563/vka-recovery-007-jpg.jpg




Fucking big difference between a Cayenne and a 911.

[TheStig]

I heard they're also voting on this proposal ;)

http://media.merchantcircle.com/18743170/car-insurance-bubble-wrap-small-84841_full.jpeg

[sdubfid]

ICBC offers tests in 11 different languages so we should have 11 different signs so nobody feels discriminated against.

Councillor Shellie Gudgeon's bad driving habits - VibrantVictoria.ca Discussion Forum (http://www.vibrantvictoria.ca/forum/victoria-politics-63/councillor-shellie-gudgeons-bad-driving-habits-5818/)

[Vale46Rossi]

^^^^ Beat me to it :(


This is from a local forum of Victoria.

http://i.imgur.com/jI1ke0c.jpg


(remember this is someone's observation and can't be taken for validity)

[GLOW]

clai's everywhere will rejoice!

[Jmac]

The rest of the world speeds up, we slow down ...

[ShadowBun]

Vancouver!

[Bouncing Bettys]

Speed limits on Bowen Island are 40 max because the tree hungers don't want the 'precious' deer, who have free reign on the island and destroy everyone's gardens, to be harmed. I used to get yelled at to slow down while going slower than the limit. Hit a deer with your car and you are worse than hitler. Bowen has all these developments going on and rich people buying up properties who are only there seasonally. They don't give a shit about the politics of the island, speed limits, or the deer. People often speed to the cove to catch the ferry. The cops catch plenty of speeders.

[DC5-S]

i dont give a shit, ill still go 60

[trip]

i dont give a shit, ill still go 60

http://images.wikia.com/theinternetbox/images/9/9b/Watch-out-we-got-a-badass-over-here-meme.png

[sekin67835]

I'll have what she's smoking please.
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[SB7]

Vancouver drivers are retarded. I see at least 2-3 fucked up shit from my commute around Richmond daily. I don't think decreasing the speed limit is going to benefit most people, instead they should make sure people know how to drive with more rigorous tests for both automatic and manual separately. They should also subsidize dash cams and promote them within their respective communities. Too many people get away with driving like total asshats on the road and I would be so happy if the trend was towards safe and responsible driving (doesn't mean you can't have fun....) and such.
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[BBMme]

I hope that doesn't happen.
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[elwell]

id still hit 100 down kingsway :lawl:

[Noir]

Speed limits aren't going to change the natural flow of traffic. That for some reason just dictates itself
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[4444]

This city is very anti-car, this wont change in the next decade... I used t enjoy living here, but each day my enjoyment is taken away from me little by little, and the level of frustration in just doing stuff increases

Such a shame, we have such a beautiful position in the world, but that clearly attracted the retards here a number of years ago

Such a shame

[Lomac]

When I read "Porsche," my first thought was that she drives a 914 :lol

[JaPoola]

They've realized people drive 80 in the 50 zones most of the time, so now they want to lower the limit in order to get more over 40 impounds.

[LP700-4]

I actually dont mind this as long as they raise most big and popular roads up to 60. Leave the default 40 limit on smaller residential roads

For example at least 70 on Cambie, 60 on Marine Dr, 70 on Oak, 60 on Granville, 60 on Kingsway etc etc.

Kinda like Richmond where they have Garden City and other "Big" roads on 60 limit

[SpeedStars]

This city is very anti-car, this wont change in the next decade... I used t enjoy living here, but each day my enjoyment is taken away from me little by little, and the level of frustration in just doing stuff increases

Such a shame, we have such a beautiful position in the world, but that clearly attracted the retards here a number of years ago

Such a shame

This. The BC government just doesn't like cars. With carbon tax rates and ever expanding bike lanes, it feels like they're giving a big FU to drivers.
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[Mr.HappySilp]

Lol even some of the buses go over 50km on a 50 road.

[mr_chin]

This city is very anti-car, this wont change in the next decade... I used t enjoy living here, but each day my enjoyment is taken away from me little by little, and the level of frustration in just doing stuff increases

Such a shame, we have such a beautiful position in the world, but that clearly attracted the retards here a number of years ago

Such a shame

Yeah I hate vancouver now. I used to be able to drive 50 above speed limit and won't get suspension or impound.

I used to be able to drink and drive and the worst consequences was going to the drunk tank with 24 hour suspension.

Fuck vancouver.

:D

[bing]

Is this woman just clueless? she needs to get out of her bubble and stop being so arrogant for thinking this would work province-wide :fuckthatshit:

You can practically get anywhere in Victoria in 15 minutes and many people drive super slow. According to Wikipedia, the city only has a population of around 80,000.

[Lomac]

I wonder how this will impact cities like Kelowna, Vernon, Salmon Arm (hell, almost all of the Interior cities) where the highway actually goes straight through the centre of them. I'm assuming they'd change the limits for these places to fit a higher speed, but... ugh. BC is a hell of a lot bigger than just the GVRD, people.

[Graeme S]

Back streets in Burnaby (at least in my neighborhood) are all 40. And there are a quintrillion signs to remind you of the speed limits, and also that they end at Hastings street.

I would love to see the cost on those, and what the cost:benefit was that Burnaby used to decide to implement this.

[dark0821]

i Thought any street without a center line is 40kph, any with one is 50kph unless specified.... I personally dont think it will affect us that much.

I mean most of us just kind of drive with the flow of traffic anyways... I mean I drive on marine drive (from vancouver to bby) around 7:45AM everyday monday to friday...annnnnnnnd i get passed all the time and I do 70 on there in the slow lane ....

my 0.02

[stewie]

so go from 30-45min to get to work to an 1.5 - 2 hours to get to work....and then back again.

might as well just put up a tent at work lol.

unless she's willing to pay me for the hours I waste in traffic, she can go squat on a bed post.

[SkinnyPupp]

This. The BC government just doesn't like cars. With carbon tax rates and ever expanding bike lanes, it feels like they're giving a big FU to drivers.
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The whole world has to go anti cars eventually to survive. Eventually they'll be relegated to luxury items... Kind of sucks but we have to adapt... it's kind of what we do.

[Traum]

The whole world has to go anti cars eventually to survive. Eventually they'll be relegated to luxury items... Kind of sucks but we have to adapt... it's kind of what we do.
If the infrastructure supports a car-free environment, I'm all for cars becoming a luxury / play item. The problem is, Vancouver's public transit SUCKS. How can residents adapt when the infrastructure isn't there to support them?

[stewie]

^^ I'd only take transit IF I lived in walking distance to a skytrain station, and my work was walking distance from a skytrain station.

if not, theres really no incentive for me to take transit. I don't enjoy waking up an hour early to bus hop to jump on a train to bus hop some more to get to work, and do it all over again on the way home...id rather pay the few bucks in gas and go directly from point A to B.

[SkinnyPupp]

If the infrastructure supports a car-free environment, I'm all for cars becoming a luxury / play item. The problem is, Vancouver's public transit SUCKS. How can residents adapt when the infrastructure isn't there to support them?
Clearly they need better infrastructure then. I have been relying on public transport for 7 years in Hong Kong (almost exclusively buses in the last 2), and I have relatively few complaints. I would still like to have a car for leisure, but I definitely would prefer public transport over taking it to work every day.

[Graeme S]

^^ I'd only take transit IF I lived in walking distance to a skytrain station, and my work was walking distance from a skytrain station.

if not, theres really no incentive for me to take transit. I don't enjoy waking up an hour early to bus hop to jump on a train to bus hop some more to get to work, and do it all over again on the way home...id rather pay the few bucks in gas and go directly from point A to B.
Busses can be more efficient than the skytrain.

Also, "A few bucks in gas"...and a couple hundred a month in insurance, a thousand or two a year in maintenance, tens of thousands up front OR hundreds a month in loan payments...


But yeah. A few bucks in gas.

[Speed2K]

Fail, this publicity seeker just wanted to tell all of BC that she drives a Porsche!

[Traum]

Clearly they need better infrastructure then. I have been relying on public transport for 7 years in Hong Kong (almost exclusively buses in the last 2), and I have relatively few complaints. I would still like to have a car for leisure, but I definitely would prefer public transport over taking it to work every day.
For most regular day-to-day life, I am sure public transit would work for the majority of people in London, Paris, Hong Kong, Taipei, and maybe even in Montreal. But Vancouver isn't anything like that. Public transit in Vancouver is dramatically better than it used to be, but it still sucks for the most part.

[stewie]

Busses can be more efficient than the skytrain.

Also, "A few bucks in gas"...and a couple hundred a month in insurance, a thousand or two a year in maintenance, tens of thousands up front OR hundreds a month in loan payments...


But yeah. A few bucks in gas.

i will gladly pay every cent towards that if I can get from point A to B faster then public transit, then it makes my life easier which in return makes my life happier.

I plan on buying a house in maple ridge in the next few years, so waking up at 5am to bus and train/bus again just to get to work by 7am, spend 8 hours outdoors doing physically hard work, just to spend another 2-3 hours getting home in rush hour traffic while on public transit would just destroy my day and make my life a miserable hell. i don't plan on changing my job anytime soon as its a job i went to school for and actually like/comes with damn good benefits plan and amazing union. id have to wake up at 5am and not get home till 6pm if not a bit longer/possibly a bit less. id basically get home, feed my dogs, make dinner, then go straight to bed. im not gonna let that happen to me. if I had kids id never see them except for weekends..by the time id get home they'd be in bed (infant) or they'd be going to bed within 2-3 hours(younger kids 4-8ish). so im sticking with my vehicles. personal choice.

[meme405]

Fail, this publicity seeker just wanted to tell all of BC that she drives a Porsche!

:lawl:

This is just retarded. I mean most people who aren't complete asshats don't go ripping down small residential streets at 50 just because thats what the limit is, and if they do these are the types of people that will continue to do so after this stupid law is implemented.

So effectively what this means is nothing in terms of actual driving style will be affected, which means no benefits, and the province will end up spending millions on 50KPH & 60KPH signs for roads like marine, willingdon, kingsway, knight, etc. etc.

[Timpo]

why are they lowering it to 40km/h?

more speeding ticket revenue? :confused:

[Timpo]

Vancouver drivers are retarded. I see at least 2-3 fucked up shit from my commute around Richmond daily. I don't think decreasing the speed limit is going to benefit most people, instead they should make sure people know how to drive with more rigorous tests for both automatic and manual separately. They should also subsidize dash cams and promote them within their respective communities. Too many people get away with driving like total asshats on the road and I would be so happy if the trend was towards safe and responsible driving (doesn't mean you can't have fun....) and such.
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For some reason in Canada and USA, cops don't like drive recorder.
If you go on YouTube, when people get pulled over, cops tend to yell "Turn it off!!!"

In Japan, however, having a drive recorder is more like a mandatory thing especially for commercial vehicles. In fact, they'll get lower insurance rate and stuff if you have a drive recorder.

[Brianrietta]

For some reason in Canada and USA, cops don't like drive recorder.
If you go on YouTube, when people get pulled over, cops tend to yell "Turn it off!!!"

http://www.marriedtothesea.com/092811/legal-to-videotape-police-officers.gif

The problem with provincially mandated speed limits is that while there are no doubt many roads in BC where the speed limit should be 40 instead of 50, there are just as many where they should be 60-80 instead. Although if the default speed is dropped down perhaps that would force some of the municipalities to increase the main thoroughfares to a more reasonable speed. For example in Chilliwack I routinely drive down Evans Road, which has a long stretch of 4 lanes plus bike lanes and sidewalks on either side in a half agricultural area and the speed limit is 50. (https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=evans+road&ll=49.128946,-121.977564&spn=0.000713,0.002064&hnear=Evans+Rd,+Chilliwack,+British+Columbia&gl=ca&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=49.128946,-121.977564&panoid=C9hKgzAxvt19bnU9qOfG-Q&cbp=12,8.32,,0,0.23) Narrow, no shoulder, no sidewalk, etc high pedestrian areas, sure - 40. Everywhere else probably needs some degree of reanalysis.

[Happy]

Man.. Richmond is bad enough driving around with a 50km speed limit. I can't imagine how backed up No.3 road would be with a 40km/h limit.. Line up would be from city hall to like yaohan centre

[Vale46Rossi]

Actually, to me this will not affect the majority of the drivers. They will still be doing 50+ on a regular basis just a better chance to give a speeding ticket and someone doing 80 on Westminister Hwy will now get excessive and impounded.

[Graeme S]

i will gladly pay every cent towards that if I can get from point A to B faster then public transit, then it makes my life easier which in return makes my life happier.

I plan on buying a house in maple ridge in the next few years, so waking up at 5am to bus and train/bus again just to get to work by 7am, spend 8 hours outdoors doing physically hard work, just to spend another 2-3 hours getting home in rush hour traffic while on public transit would just destroy my day and make my life a miserable hell. i don't plan on changing my job anytime soon as its a job i went to school for and actually like/comes with damn good benefits plan and amazing union. id have to wake up at 5am and not get home till 6pm if not a bit longer/possibly a bit less. id basically get home, feed my dogs, make dinner, then go straight to bed. im not gonna let that happen to me. if I had kids id never see them except for weekends..by the time id get home they'd be in bed (infant) or they'd be going to bed within 2-3 hours(younger kids 4-8ish). so im sticking with my vehicles. personal choice.

And for those who can make the personal choice, that's totally awesome. I plan on getting a car again (it'll be number six), mainly because I don't work DT anymore and while I don't need it, it'll make my life easier.

But in your explanation I saw more than just a choice of a car--you're keeping your job in a place you don't like living (a choice). You're choosing to move away so you can own a home rather than rent (a choice). All of these things are personal choices, and as long as we have the earning power that's awesome. But public transit isn't and shouldn't be billed as "a choice equal to a car". Lots of people can't afford cars, either because of the upfront or because of the continuing costs--as a result, they have to spend a lot of time (as you've mentioned before). Providing subsidies which allow those people to maximize their own time will allow them to live better lives and will help them and everyone else.

Ever felt so tired after work that you just decided to say "fuck it" and order pizza instead of cooking? Not a choice for a lot of people--they need to spend their time cooking afterwards because they haven't enough money to adjust for the time they spend. "Just get a better job" "go back to school and learn something".

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-15193-Can-t-get-a-job-because-I-don-sgyC.jpeg and so on. Getting a better job for some people is a choice--not a choice everyone has. I'm pretty sure if people could choose a better life they wouldn't work as janitorial staff cleaning up other people's shit, or working at McDick's dealing with your drunk ass thinking it's hilarious to order a whopper FIVE TIMES while you're smashed out of your mind and then decide to puke either on the floor in front of the counter or in their bathroom.


We should be glad that we have the opportunity to make choices, and do our best to pass that opportunity on to others.


[/socialist rant]

[BaoTurbo]

Really? 40km? :facepalm:

[Spidey]

What needs to happen is ICBC needs to be way more stringent when it comes to international drivers. It is ridiculous that "students" can use the foreign DL for the whole time they are here for school. No testing, nothing, and they bring over these DL's that is near impossible to prove is real, since there is nowhere we can go to compare the validity of them. I don't understand why ICBC does not make it mandatory for all driver's that are residing in BC for longer than a month, but are still visiting, to obtain some kind of valid short term licence.

[sebberry]

(remember this is someone's observation and can't be taken for validity)

Actually, by her own admission during an interview on CFAX1070 in Victoria, Gudgeon has had her licence suspended due to too many speeding and other violations.

The Saanich based group "Community advocates for reduced speed (https://www.facebook.com/CommunityAdvocatesforReducedSpeed)" are also behind this push.

[Graeme S]

What needs to happen is ICBC needs to be way more stringent when it comes to international drivers. It is ridiculous that "students" can use the foreign DL for the whole time they are here for school. No testing, nothing, and they bring over these DL's that is near impossible to prove is real, since there is nowhere we can go to compare the validity of them. I don't understand why ICBC does not make it mandatory for all driver's that are residing in BC for longer than a month, but are still visiting, to obtain some kind of valid short term licence.
Legally you are at most allowed to use a non-BC driver's license for six months: that's as long as you're allowed to claim you're 'visiting'. International driver's licenses actually only permit you to use them for 3 months before you've got to switch over to one that's from the area (read the fine print).

The problem, however, is exactly the same as all the people who drive on suspended licenses: the only time you get your license checked is when you do something wrong and get caught for it. So, I guess that means we need more cops on the streets checking for traffic infractions? :badpokerface:

[stewie]

The problem, however, is exactly the same as all the people who drive on suspended licenses: the only time you get your license checked is when you do something wrong and get caught for it. So, I guess that means we need more cops on the streets checking for traffic infractions? :badpokerface:

when you have your license suspended, do they attatch it to your vehicle?(never even had a ticket*knock on wood* so I don't know these things)

if so, they should just put one of those police cars with the plate scanners on the bridges, every car that pops up with an attachment saying that the registered owner has a suspended license, just pull em over and do a quick dbl check as to whos driving.

[sebberry]

if so, they should just put one of those police cars with the plate scanners on the bridges, every car that pops up with an attachment saying that the registered owner has a suspended license, just pull em over and do a quick dbl check as to whos driving.

That's what they already do.

[alpinestars]

Surprised no one read past the part about 40km/h, which says:

"where it was necessary to have it 50, 60, 70 kilometres an hour, then it would be signed"

This could mean places where everyone speeds anyways, like Marine Drive or Knight Street, could receive higher speed limits by their posted sign, and places where people ought to be driving slower (narrow part of 12th street, pedestrian laden parts of Fraser) will not have a sign.

We may just see more signs everywhere showing what the speed limit is. The whole city could have signs that say 50kph, meanwhile a few streets are sign-less so they are 40kph.

Consider weighing both the potential benefits and drawbacks before concluding that lowering the speed limit is a bad thing. Right now, this article hasn't quantified anything, it just proposes a new rule which gives city road engineers more room to fine tune traffic speeds.

[sebberry]

This doesn't give city engineers any more room to fine tune traffic speeds than our current statutory speed limits.

City councils are free to set speed limits for individual roads at will now, and will be free to continue to do so.

What this will do is see minor and major roads that fall under the statutory limit of 50 reduced to 40 unless they're all re-signed at 50, with city bylaws written to allow 50.

If the will doesn't presently exist to increase the limit on Marine, Knight, etc... then it likely won't after the limit is dropped.

[E-SPEC]

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Shellie-Gudgeon-Victoria-City-Councillor/179257022149489

Dumb broads page..

[Traum]

Surprised no one read past the part about 40km/h, which says:

"where it was necessary to have it 50, 60, 70 kilometres an hour, then it would be signed"

This could mean places where everyone speeds anyways, like Marine Drive or Knight Street, could receive higher speed limits by their posted sign, and places where people ought to be driving slower (narrow part of 12th street, pedestrian laden parts of Fraser) will not have a sign.

We may just see more signs everywhere showing what the speed limit is. The whole city could have signs that say 50kph, meanwhile a few streets are sign-less so they are 40kph.

Consider weighing both the potential benefits and drawbacks before concluding that lowering the speed limit is a bad thing. Right now, this article hasn't quantified anything, it just proposes a new rule which gives city road engineers more room to fine tune traffic speeds.
Undoubtedly, I saw that when I was reading the article. But then, what's the point of lowering the speed limit to 40km/h when they are still gonna put up signs for higher speeds, which would then be starting at 50km/h?

The thing to consider is, for the majority of roads that are capable of 50km/h, are there more of them around? or are there more roads (not side streets) where 40km/h should be the norm? If there are more roads suitable for 50km/h than those suitable for 40km/h, it makes more financial sense to stick with the current 50km/h unposted speed limit, and sign the 40km/h roads instead of doing it the other way around. And currently, I 100% believe we have more roads where the speed limit should be set at 50km/h than 40km/h.

[Great68]

Surprised no one read past the part about 40km/h, which says:

"where it was necessary to have it 50, 60, 70 kilometres an hour, then it would be signed"

This could mean places where everyone speeds anyways, like Marine Drive or Knight Street, could receive higher speed limits by their posted sign, and places where people ought to be driving slower (narrow part of 12th street, pedestrian laden parts of Fraser) will not have a sign.

If a major arterial road like Knight or Marine is not already signed to a higher limit, they're not going to raise it once the defaults change to 40.


We may just see more signs everywhere showing what the speed limit is. The whole city could have signs that say 50kph, meanwhile a few streets are sign-less so they are 40kph.


If the majority of the streets will be re-signed to stay at 50km/h, that would be a massive expense for pretty much nothing. If the majority of streets can stay at 50, why not keep the default at 50?


Consider weighing both the potential benefits and drawbacks before concluding that lowering the speed limit is a bad thing. Right now, this article hasn't quantified anything, it just proposes a new rule which gives city road engineers more room to fine tune traffic speeds.

This rule wouldn't give city workers any more room or tools than they already have now to tune speeds. They'd just be starting from a 10km/h lower baseline.

This Gudgeon woman pisses me off. What might be a good idea for her pimple of a community, doesn't mean it's good for all of BC. A dense urban community like James Bay has about as much in common with a rural BC town as an apple has in common with an orange.

[Spidey]

when you have your license suspended, do they attatch it to your vehicle?(never even had a ticket*knock on wood* so I don't know these things)

if so, they should just put one of those police cars with the plate scanners on the bridges, every car that pops up with an attachment saying that the registered owner has a suspended license, just pull em over and do a quick dbl check as to whos driving.

if you are the registered owner of the vehicle, and your vehicle is run, then it will show the attached driver's licence, along with its suspension/prohibition

Legally you are at most allowed to use a non-BC driver's license for six months: that's as long as you're allowed to claim you're 'visiting'. International driver's licenses actually only permit you to use them for 3 months before you've got to switch over to one that's from the area (read the fine print).

The problem, however, is exactly the same as all the people who drive on suspended licenses: the only time you get your license checked is when you do something wrong and get caught for it. So, I guess that means we need more cops on the streets checking for traffic infractions? :badpokerface:


International students do not need to apply for an International drivers licence. If they can prove that they are full time students, they can use their illegible foreign licences (for as long as they are in school), but are required to have translation papers, and ICBC's authorization stamp/signature.

http://www.icbc.com/faqs/questions/student-out-of-province-licence

[Graeme S]

if you are the registered owner of the vehicle, and your vehicle is run, then it will show the attached driver's licence, along with its suspension/prohibition




International students do not need to apply for an International drivers licence. If they can prove that they are full time students, they can use their illegible foreign licences (for as long as they are in school), but are required to have translation papers, and ICBC's authorization stamp/signature.

ICBC | FAQs | Im a student coming to BC and I have an (http://www.icbc.com/faqs/questions/student-out-of-province-licence)
First: it's eligible.
Second: I would call ICBC to make sure that's the way it goes. ICBC (the licensing branch in BC) says:
Splash page: ICBC | Moving to BC (http://www.icbc.com/driver-licensing/moving-bc)
Welcome to B.C.!

You have 90 days to switch over your licence after moving to B.C.

Detailed info page: ICBC | Moving from another country (http://www.icbc.com/driver-licensing/moving-bc/other-country)

[b]What country are you from?[b]
There are different licensing requirements depending on where you’re from. B.C. has reciprocal agreements with certain countries, including the U.S. If you’re from one of the following countries and have enough driving experience, you can usually get your licence right away:
Austria Guernsey, Jersey, Isle of Man South Korea (not motorcycles)
Australia Japan Switzerland
France Netherlands* United Kingdom**
Germany New Zealand United States***

I've had students of mine pulled over and told to show up at the officer's detachment within seven days to prove that they've switched out their licenses. Having the double-standard of "You must change within 90 days" to "You can keep your own country's license" results in some serious chaos within the force. I would expect that the internationals keeping their licenses would most likely apply mainly to exchange students, not to students doing full degree programs...but again, a call to ICBC would clear that all up, since the site does say "For more information call...".

[Spidey]

First: it's eligible.
Second: I would call ICBC to make sure that's the way it goes. ICBC (the licensing branch in BC) says:
Splash page: ICBC | Moving to BC (http://www.icbc.com/driver-licensing/moving-bc)


Detailed info page: ICBC | Moving from another country (http://www.icbc.com/driver-licensing/moving-bc/other-country)


I've had students of mine pulled over and told to show up at the officer's detachment within seven days to prove that they've switched out their licenses. Having the double-standard of "You must change within 90 days" to "You can keep your own country's license" results in some serious chaos within the force. I would expect that the internationals keeping their licenses would most likely apply mainly to exchange students, not to students doing full degree programs...but again, a call to ICBC would clear that all up, since the site does say "For more information call...".

First: I meant what I said, when I said illegible as I don't read Chinese or any foreign language for that matter http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/illegible?s=t

Second: I have called ICBC in the past for verification. Students can use their foreign licence as long as they are full time students. They must swap for a BCDL if they plan on becoming a resident or prolong their visitation, more than (I think it is 6 months). The reason why your students may have been forced to get a BCDL is probably because of;

1) they had foreign licences that the police officer could not prove was real/read (as I posted in my initial post, there is no way for cops to ensure the foreign licence is "real")

2) the officer was misinformed

[xSin]

Big waste of time and energy spent debating something the mass mass majority of British columbians just don't care about!!!

The speed limits that are in place are rarely enforced as it is, I don't think dropping the unposted speed limit by 10km/hr is going to have any impact whatsoever on how traffic moves or how the police just don't enforce the speed limits. (maybe in some areas they do but I actually get pleased when I see a cop pulling someone over for speeding where I live, its such a rare sight)

[melloman]

Very informative youtube video about speed limits and why they are TOOOOOO LOOOOWWW in BC.

Speed Kills Your Pocketbook - YouTube

[corollagtSr5]

The only reason why they want to lower the speed limit is if you go over 80km they can tow your vehicle for a week and make money off of the offenders. The current speed limit which is 50km, the offender would have to travel at the speed of 90km in order for them to get impounded. By lowering the speed limit, they can now impound you going over 80km an hour, which the city knows is the ultimate money grab. It keeps the local tow truck drivers and impound lots busy. The city is looking at revenue here. Plain and simple.

[jaguar604]

The only reason why they want to lower the speed limit is if you go over 80km they can tow your vehicle for a week and make money off of the offenders. The current speed limit which is 50km, the offender would have to travel at the speed of 90km in order for them to get impounded. By lowering the speed limit, they can now impound you going over 80km an hour, which the city knows is the ultimate money grab. It keeps the local tow truck drivers and impound lots busy. The city is looking at revenue here. Plain and simple.

Excessive speeding is a huge pain in the ass for police officers to process, takes up a good couple hours. I highly doubt municipalities and POLICE CHIEFS are willing to tie up cops for hours on end just to make a little extra chump change in the grand scheme of things.

[sebberry]

The only reason why they want to lower the speed limit is if you go over 80km they can tow your vehicle for a week and make money off of the offenders.

Not true. I've been following this for quite a while in Victoria. Special interest groups and misguided city councillors think lowering the default speed limit will make neighbourhoods quieter, safer, cleaner and will get more people cycling and riding bikes.

[meme405]

Excessive speeding is a huge pain in the ass for police officers to process, takes up a good couple hours. I highly doubt municipalities and POLICE CHIEFS are willing to tie up cops for hours on end just to make a little extra chump change in the grand scheme of things.

Uhhh yes they are, its not chump change, its one of the main ways that our police system is funded...:failed:

[meme405]

Very informative youtube video about speed limits and why they are TOOOOOO LOOOOWWW in BC.

Speed Kills Your Pocketbook - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BKdbxX1pDw)

I have no idea how you found this but it is brilliant. EVERY MAN, WOMEN AND CHILD SHOULD WATCH THIS VIDEO.

[sebberry]

Uhhh yes they are, its not chump change, its one of the main ways that our police system is funded...:failed:

Police departments are paid primarily through property taxes, not traffic fine revenue. It is true that the province returns a portion of traffic revenue back to the municipalities, but it's not a "main source of revenue" for the police departments.

[meme405]

Police departments are paid primarily through property taxes, not traffic fine revenue. It is true that the province returns a portion of traffic revenue back to the municipalities, but it's not a "main source of revenue" for the police departments.

If you have only three streams of revenue, then it makes sens that atleast the two largest be considered "Main"...

[Speed2K]

Proposal to lower the speed limit rejected! But photo reader might return ( still needs government approval).

Municipal leaders vote down proposal for lower speed limits in B.C. | Globalnews.ca (http://globalnews.ca/news/853133/municipal-leaders-ask-b-c-government-to-bring-back-photo-radar/)

[Traum]

The reduction of unposted speeds down to 40 km/h was never going to get approved. It drew the attention it did only because the mere suggestion of it is so ludicrous (and the Victoria councillor that brought it up looked the part as well).

[fliptuner]

Next proposal: Barricades for each lane, lined with pillows.

[GLOW]

Next proposal: Barricades for each lane, lined with pillows.

just like bowling bumpers!
http://www.murreybowling.com/Murrey_Bowling/Bowling_Alley_Lane_bumper_system_files/DSC00600.jpg