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ae101
09-02-2013, 12:12 AM
Kim Jong-un's ex-lover 'executed by firing squad'
Kim Jong-un's ex-girlfriend was among a dozen well-known North Korean performers who were executed by firing squad nine days ago, according to South Korean reports.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02655/kim-jong-un_2655850b.jpg

The reports in South Korea's Chosun Ilbo newspaper indicate that Hyon, a singer with the Unhasu Orchestra, was among those arrested on August 17 for violating domestic laws on pornography.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02655/north-korea_2655901c.jpg
All 12 were machine-gunned three days later, with other members of North Korea's most famous pop groups and their immediate families forced to watch. The onlookers were then sent to prison camps, victims of the regime's assumption of guilt by association, the reports stated.

“They were executed with machine guns while the key members of the Unhasu Orchestra, Wangjaesan Light Band and Moranbong Band as well as the families of the victims looked on,” said a Chinese source reported in the newspaper.

Hyon's band was responsible for a string of patriotic hits in North Korea, including "Footsteps of Soldiers," "I Love Pyongyang," "She is a Discharged Soldier" and "We are Troops of the Party." Her popularity reportedly peaked in 2005 with the song "Excellent Horse-Like Lady."



The 12 who were executed were singers, musicians or dancers with the Hyon's band,, the Unhasu Orchestra or the Wanghaesan Light Music Band and were accused of making videos of themselves performing sex acts and then selling the recordings.

The reports stated that both groups have been disbanded as a result of the scandal.

Some of the musicians were also found to have bibles when they were detained and all were treated as political dissidents.

Kim Jong-un, who became leader of North Korea after the sudden death of his father in December 2011, is believed to have met Hyon about 10 years ago and struck up a relationship.

His father, Kim Jong-il, did not approve of the relationship and ordered him to break it off. Hyon subsequently married an officer in the North Korean military and reportedly had a baby, although there are suggestions that Hyon continued to see Kim after her marriage.

Kim's wife, Ri Sol-ju, was also a member of the Unhasu Orchestra before marriage and one theory is that Ri objected to the continuing high profile of her husband's former girlfriend.

North Korea's Communist dictator reportedly purged his own step-mother, Kim Ok, from her post as a senior official in the Workers' Party Finance and Accounting Department as he sought to tighten his grip on power within the country.

She was luckier than Kim Chol, vice minister of the army, who was executed with a mortar round in October 2012.

Kim Chol was reportedly executed for drinking and carousing during the official mourning period after Kim Jong-il's death.

On the explicit orders of Kim Jong-un to leave "no trace of him behind, down to his hair," according to South Korean media, Kim Chol was forced to stand on a spot that had been zeroed in for a mortar round and "obliterated."

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02288/20120706-band_2288812c.jpg

Kim Jong-un's ex-lover 'executed by firing squad' - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/10272953/Kim-Jong-uns-ex-lover-executed-by-firing-squad.html)

Kim Jong Un
09-02-2013, 12:16 AM
NOOOO!! :QQ:

Gazorcoop
09-02-2013, 12:58 AM
^ +1
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Hurricane
09-02-2013, 04:17 AM
So how do we get a hold of aforementioned videos?

Kinda curious about this mortar strike one too. :suspicious:

z3german
09-02-2013, 06:21 AM
So how do we get a hold of aforementioned videos?

Kinda curious about this mortar strike one too. :suspicious:

Ya link to videos....

For science of course

MG1
09-02-2013, 06:50 AM
RIP to those people who were masacred.

Iceman-19
09-02-2013, 07:35 AM
When are they just going to assassinate Kim Jong-Un? Like seriously. The guy is a fucking maniac.

dinosaur
09-02-2013, 07:42 AM
The guy is a fucking maniac.

Tommy Boy I'm a Maniac - YouTube

:fullofwin:

Gridlock
09-02-2013, 08:27 AM
Tough love.

I kind of want to hear the North Korean hit, "I Love Pyongyang". I suspect that its sung to the tune of Joan Jett's "I Love Rockn'Roll"

I love Pyongyang
Put another bullet in my bandmate's temple
I love Pyongyang
Citizens being shot is fine with me

Boostslut
09-02-2013, 08:43 AM
Footsteps of Solders, for science. It's kinda catchy, in a North Korean kinda way.

NocutView - ?? '??????' ???? ?? - YouTube

Bouncing Bettys
09-02-2013, 09:30 AM
May this act, or a similar injustice, be the catalyst to the downfall of Kim Jong Un and his muderous, represive regime by the people of North Korea.

satek
09-02-2013, 09:33 AM
"All 12 were machine-gunned three days later, with other members of North Korea's most famous pop groups and their immediate families forced to watch."

That's brutal.

4444
09-02-2013, 09:36 AM
So, Syria is on everyone's lips for the absolutely disgusting things going on there, but the western world doesn't really want to get involved (as its all looking quite Cold War-y with Russia again), yet this has been going on for 50 years, yet we won't do shit bc china doesn't want to go against its communist brothers, and the western world doesn't want to start another democracy vs communism thing. (If china didn't realize, they're all capitalists now, not exactly in line with communism).

Makes me sick, I'm all for a country deciding how it wants to be governed, but I'm sure the people of North Korea would be way better off, in the long run, if there was UN intervention.

Really makes me sad about how we let this happen, day in, day out. Kim Jung Un is not better than his muppet dad, I was hoping that, being educated in the west, he may actually have had some empathy, clearly not

dinosaur
09-02-2013, 11:18 AM
^^people (gov'ts) are scared of N. Korea....they are not scared of Syria.

Tapioca
09-02-2013, 12:23 PM
^^people (gov'ts) are scared of N. Korea....they are not scared of Syria.

Yep.

North Korea has nuclear weapons and Syria does not. Assad may be ruthless, but he's not stupid enough to bomb Israel, while North Korea would not hesitate to nuke Seoul.

LiquidTurbo
09-02-2013, 02:03 PM
Yep.

North Korea has nuclear weapons and Syria does not. Assad may be ruthless, but he's not stupid enough to bomb Israel, while North Korea would not hesitate to nuke Seoul.

Source?

dangonay
09-02-2013, 03:50 PM
Yep.

North Korea has nuclear weapons and Syria does not. Assad may be ruthless, but he's not stupid enough to bomb Israel, while North Korea would not hesitate to nuke Seoul.

North Korea doesn't have nukes. They have firecrackers. Time to repost a couple pics from the other North Korea nuke thread...

First up? A North Korean nuke if it could actually be launched and land in Seoul.

http://dangonay.com/images/korea1.jpg


Next up? A single Trident from a US submarine.

http://dangonay.com/images/korea2.jpg

ae101
09-02-2013, 08:15 PM
So, Syria is on everyone's lips for the absolutely disgusting things going on there, but the western world doesn't really want to get involved (as its all looking quite Cold War-y with Russia again), yet this has been going on for 50 years, yet we won't do shit bc china doesn't want to go against its communist brothers, and the western world doesn't want to start another democracy vs communism thing. (If china didn't realize, they're all capitalists now, not exactly in line with communism).

Makes me sick, I'm all for a country deciding how it wants to be governed, but I'm sure the people of North Korea would be way better off, in the long run, if there was UN intervention.

Really makes me sad about how we let this happen, day in, day out. Kim Jung Un is not better than his muppet dad, I was hoping that, being educated in the west, he may actually have had some empathy, clearly not

actually china just say there capitalists but its pretty communist in the country

& they reason why they dont want anyone to attack the north is because china is afraid of the north koreans charging in to china as refuge, china is already over populated period

4444
09-02-2013, 08:42 PM
actually china just say there capitalists but its pretty communist in the country

& they reason why they dont want anyone to attack the north is because china is afraid of the north koreans charging in to china as refuge, china is already over populated period

Are you serious!?!? I'll leave the first part (freedom of ppl to move freely, open business, do international business - not perfect, but it's no commie state as it was)

North Korea, population 24m, most would reintegrate the two koreas (south korea would give them all passports in a second), but even if all went to china, it's a blip on their population, so I don't buy your second point one iota

ae101
09-02-2013, 08:50 PM
Are you serious!?!? I'll leave the first part (freedom of ppl to move freely, open business, do international business - not perfect, but it's no commie state as it was)

North Korea, population 24m, most would reintegrate the two koreas (south korea would give them all passports in a second), but even if all went to china, it's a blip on their population, so I don't buy your second point one iota

i live & work in china now & i can tell that just its a quite open now but its still pretty commie here, 90% of the old generation still use old commie ways to do business

same with the how the government runs, also in a commie country military is SUPER important & they get lot of say which in china still happens (in smaller cities)

theres more north koreans in china bejing then in south korean & they were raise to believe that south is evil/horrible place

CharlesInCharge
09-02-2013, 11:16 PM
I cant believe The Province is even running with this story.

Is it a coincidence that Dennis Rodman is heading to North Korea on Tuesday and these executions having been committed at the same time?

A celebrity like Rodman has already changed millions of American minds of the North Korean leader in a good light, even though he threatened the states with a nuclear bomb... and to further stop more good publicity no doubt this story is just that... a story.
The ZioAmerican elitist are desperate to win hearts and minds. They are desperate to gas women and children in Syria and this is another cheap attempt to flood people and sheeples minds with propaganda.

NKC ONE
09-02-2013, 11:26 PM
I cant believe The Province is even running with this story.

Is it a coincidence that Dennis Rodman is heading to North Korea on Tuesday and these executions having been committed at the same time?

A celebrity like Rodman has already changed millions of American minds of the North Korean leader in a good light, even though he threatened the states with a nuclear bomb... and to further stop more good publicity no doubt this story is just that... a story.
The ZioAmerican elitist are desperate to win hearts and minds. They are desperate to gas women and children in Syria and this is another cheap attempt to flood people and sheeples minds with propaganda.

Does every single post revolve around zionism with you?

CharlesInCharge
09-02-2013, 11:27 PM
Guess what kind of person used to own the Telegraph.

Energy
09-02-2013, 11:31 PM
I cant believe The Province is even running with this story.

Is it a coincidence that Dennis Rodman is heading to North Korea on Tuesday and these executions having been committed at the same time?

A celebrity like Rodman has already changed millions of American minds of the North Korean leader in a good light, even though he threatened the states with a nuclear bomb... and to further stop more good publicity no doubt this story is just that... a story.
The ZioAmerican elitist are desperate to win hearts and minds. They are desperate to gas women and children in Syria and this is another cheap attempt to flood people and sheeples minds with propaganda.

Geez, are you like this in real life too? I can't even imagine :fulloffuck:

CharlesInCharge
09-02-2013, 11:33 PM
Sorry if facts and reality dont jive with your perspective of the world.
Go USA, bomb North Korea! :derp:

inv4zn
09-03-2013, 12:44 AM
Are you serious!?!? I'll leave the first part (freedom of ppl to move freely, open business, do international business - not perfect, but it's no commie state as it was)

North Korea, population 24m, most would reintegrate the two koreas (south korea would give them all passports in a second), but even if all went to china, it's a blip on their population, so I don't buy your second point one iota

South Korea will absolutely not give North Koreans "passports in a second", even if they were to reintegrate. I know from your other posts you're not ignorant, so I'll try and clarify this misconception.

The standard of living between both countries is so so far apart now it would financially ruin SK. GDP and GNP will plummet, and the economy will be in absolute ruin. But this is recoverable in the long term.

What isn't, is the cultural differences. We've been at war for 50 years now. It's a little less to the current generation, but the previous generation in SK, as well as the entirety of NK is taught since childhood that the opposite are enemies. Suddenly you're supposed to live together, work together, and just be friends?

It's not going to work like that.

(Sorry, I know this is slightly off-topic, but we may as well turn this into another NK debate.)

duy-
09-03-2013, 01:13 AM
Sorry if facts and reality dont jive with your perspective of the world.
Go USA, bomb North Korea! :derp:

lol facts, reality and perspective of the world.

ironic isn't it?
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El Bastardo
09-03-2013, 05:24 AM
Happy Rosh Hashanah, CiC

4444
09-03-2013, 11:48 AM
South Korea will absolutely not give North Koreans "passports in a second", even if they were to reintegrate. I know from your other posts you're not ignorant, so I'll try and clarify this misconception.

The standard of living between both countries is so so far apart now it would financially ruin SK. GDP and GNP will plummet, and the economy will be in absolute ruin. But this is recoverable in the long term.

What isn't, is the cultural differences. We've been at war for 50 years now. It's a little less to the current generation, but the previous generation in SK, as well as the entirety of NK is taught since childhood that the opposite are enemies. Suddenly you're supposed to live together, work together, and just be friends?

It's not going to work like that.

(Sorry, I know this is slightly off-topic, but we may as well turn this into another NK debate.)
i'm not sure i agree, i've spent some time in korea, and the general feeling i get from koreans i know is that they all want to integrate. at that, any that escape get south korean passports in a short matter of time (usually at the korean consulate in... is it thailand, i forget which country they go to) - perhaps that information has been misleading, but from what i know...

i would imagine if push comes to shove that the south korean government would come out with an offer to reunify the two koreas under 1 country, 1 passport, 1 economy - if we could get rid of their leadership. they'd know it'd be an economic hit to take on 50% of their population (25m in north vs. 50M in south) who are effectively uneducated by the south's standards (or majority poorly educated) - however, south korea does have an issue with labour, they need some low priced labour, but have had a very low inward immigration practise - this would fix this, but with too much labour influx. but i don't doubt they'd take the hit to rejoin families, communities, and what was 1 nation up until 60 odd years ago.

it's all very sad, all of this

inv4zn
09-03-2013, 12:16 PM
i'm not sure i agree, i've spent some time in korea, and the general feeling i get from koreans i know is that they all want to integrate. at that, any that escape get south korean passports in a short matter of time (usually at the korean consulate in... is it thailand, i forget which country they go to) - perhaps that information has been misleading, but from what i know...

i would imagine if push comes to shove that the south korean government would come out with an offer to reunify the two koreas under 1 country, 1 passport, 1 economy - if we could get rid of their leadership. they'd know it'd be an economic hit to take on 50% of their population (25m in north vs. 50M in south) who are effectively uneducated by the south's standards (or majority poorly educated) - however, south korea does have an issue with labour, they need some low priced labour, but have had a very low inward immigration practise - this would fix this, but with too much labour influx. but i don't doubt they'd take the hit to rejoin families, communities, and what was 1 nation up until 60 odd years ago.

it's all very sad, all of this

Interesting points, but a lot of them are based upon perspectives and opinions of "outsiders". Meaning absolutely no offense, having spent some time in Korea is not going to give you any sort of insight on how Koreans operate. Unless you're Korean yourself, they will usually say polite things and things perceived as acceptable to foreigners - it's just the way our culture is based.

I'm not sure if it's in the constitution, or just on humanitarian grounds, but North Korean refugees are indeed given SK passports relatively easily. These are the ones that run to China, travel through SE Asia and end up at a Korean embassy or consulate. There are also ones that come directly to SK, either by water or even by land (like last year, when NK soldiers knocked on the window of a SK army post - a lot of hubbub around that one.)

That's not the end though. Most NKoreans speak with a distinct NK accent, and are instantly discriminated upon within SK society. Perhaps because of their status, but also because SKoreans largely believe they may be spies. (My point with early childhood education from previous post.)

Most defectors still live in poverty in South Korea. They may not be oppressed, but it's not all unicorns and flowers for them down south either. Rarely, some of them defect BACK to NK because of the discrimination they face. Then this fuels the notion that all defectors are spies further, and it's just a downward spiral.

Here's an article (Sorry, it's hard to find English articles.)
North Korean Defector, Disappointed By South, Wants To Go Back (http://www.ibtimes.com/north-korean-defector-disappointed-south-wants-go-back-1367079)

South Korea does indeed have a problem with labour. That's why there are a large number of Pakistani, Bangladesh, and Chinese/Korean workers. They too are not taken with open arms as most of them are illegal aliens, and also a big source of crime. Such ongoing problems have inadvertently classified "labourers" as unfavourable.

The current and previous parties in power have had a strong stance towards NK. The two previous to those, did not. They enacted something called the "Sunshine Policy" (Sunshine Policy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), that essentially funded the NK state with food and money, and were very generous to them. Perhaps as a result, NK now has nuclear weapons, and alleged spies deep within SK. (See article 'Pro-North' Lawmaker Attacks Korean National Anthem - koreaBANG (http://www.koreabang.com/2012/stories/pro-north-lawmaker-attacks-korean-national-anthem.html) - this guys was recently arrested for conspiring against his country; treason really.)

As more of these stories surface, the distrust and rift is actually growing larger. Reunification, while ideal on paper and humane (such as rejoined familes, etc.,), is such a massive headache realistically I don't think anyone has an answer.

But I agree 100% it's terribly sad.

P.S. - Sorry for these long posts, but this topic kinda hits home for me. My grandparents both came to South Korea in a small wooden boat in the middle of the night a few years after the armistice; I also personally know a family that defected relatively recently.

MeowMeow
09-03-2013, 12:37 PM
Interesting points, but a lot of them are based upon perspectives and opinions of "outsiders". Meaning absolutely no offense, having spent some time in Korea is not going to give you any sort of insight on how Koreans operate. Unless you're Korean yourself, they will usually say polite things and things perceived as acceptable to foreigners - it's just the way our culture is based.

I'm not sure if it's in the constitution, or just on humanitarian grounds, but North Korean refugees are indeed given SK passports relatively easily. These are the ones that run to China, travel through SE Asia and end up at a Korean embassy or consulate. There are also ones that come directly to SK, either by water or even by land (like last year, when NK soldiers knocked on the window of a SK army post - a lot of hubbub around that one.)

That's not the end though. Most NKoreans speak with a distinct NK accent, and are instantly discriminated upon within SK society. Perhaps because of their status, but also because SKoreans largely believe they may be spies. (My point with early childhood education from previous post.)

Most defectors still live in poverty in South Korea. They may not be oppressed, but it's not all unicorns and flowers for them down south either. Rarely, some of them defect BACK to NK because of the discrimination they face. Then this fuels the notion that all defectors are spies further, and it's just a downward spiral.

Here's an article (Sorry, it's hard to find English articles.)
North Korean Defector, Disappointed By South, Wants To Go Back (http://www.ibtimes.com/north-korean-defector-disappointed-south-wants-go-back-1367079)

South Korea does indeed have a problem with labour. That's why there are a large number of Pakistani, Bangladesh, and Chinese/Korean workers. They too are not taken with open arms as most of them are illegal aliens, and also a big source of crime. Such ongoing problems have inadvertently classified "labourers" as unfavourable.

The current and previous parties in power have had a strong stance towards NK. The two previous to those, did not. They enacted something called the "Sunshine Policy" (Sunshine Policy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Policy)), that essentially funded the NK state with food and money, and were very generous to them. Perhaps as a result, NK now has nuclear weapons, and alleged spies deep within SK. (See article 'Pro-North' Lawmaker Attacks Korean National Anthem - koreaBANG (http://www.koreabang.com/2012/stories/pro-north-lawmaker-attacks-korean-national-anthem.html) - this guys was recently arrested for conspiring against his country; treason really.)

As more of these stories surface, the distrust and rift is actually growing larger. Reunification, while ideal on paper and humane (such as rejoined familes, etc.,), is such a massive headache realistically I don't think anyone has an answer.

But I agree 100% it's terribly sad.

P.S. - Sorry for these long posts, but this topic kinda hits home for me. My grandparents both came to South Korea in a small wooden boat in the middle of the night a few years after the armistice; I also personally know a family that defected relatively recently.

Korean myself and I can agree with all your points.
There's a reason why NK refugees in SK don't reveal that they're north koreans-not only for security reasons but because of discrimination. They have a strong accent and of course use different vocabularies so a lot of the times they lie that they're Chosun which are Koreans from China. SK's are pretty racist towards Chosun but they'd prefer them over NK's. And like inv4zn pointed out a lot of SK's still believe that NK refugees are spies. My grandparents still think some SK politicians are spies and absolutely despise them.
As sad as this sounds I disagree that SK and NK should reunite. SK children are taught to wish for reunion blah blah but realistically speaking NK ppl would go through so much discriminations and racism. A lot of Koreans upfront say that reunion should occur. But I strongly doubt that's what they really think. Most SK's don't hate NK's. They just know what's gonna happen realistically if reunification were to happen.

4444
09-03-2013, 02:16 PM
it's sad that they're prejudice against the north koreans, i remember being in a restaurant, and one of the server ajumas was clearly from the chinese border with korea, as she had a thick accent (not being a speaker of korean past ajuma, ajjusi, and the odd other word, i didn't pick up on it) - was interesting that it was brought to my attention (i was just looking forward to yummy korean bbq on coals - not over flame like we get here)

i hope that we see unification in my lifetime - though i am a european, i had family fight in the korean war, so it means something to me too, just from a different perspective - i also hate to see people unfairly treated on such a large and disgusting scale - they don't deserve it.

ae101
09-04-2013, 08:30 PM
as i much i as hate this fat ass, i dont think he should die as then north korean would go crazy

DanHibiki
09-04-2013, 08:45 PM
This is a time where I'd be drunk/high and go on about my rant of how I wish I was a superhero.

willystyle
09-04-2013, 09:10 PM
From an economic standpoint, SK cannot reunite with NK, and allow the people to roam freely without division, as that will pose an economic suicide for the South.

They will need to implement a policy that will be similar to that of China on Hong Kong to bridge the social and economic gap. In NK/SK's case, it's far more severe, which may take much longer than 50 years for geographic reunification.

Gridlock
09-04-2013, 10:32 PM
From an economic standpoint, SK cannot reunite with NK, and allow the people to roam freely without division, as that will pose an economic suicide for the South.

They will need to implement a policy that will be similar to that of China on Hong Kong to bridge the social and economic gap. In NK/SK's case, it's far more severe, which may take much longer than 50 years for geographic reunification.

I'm sure they said the same thing in Germany. There still are issues, but its amazing how quickly people come together.

And China/HK was more political/cultural more than economic.

BBMme
09-04-2013, 10:54 PM
I'm speechless.
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originalhypa
09-05-2013, 10:26 AM
She was luckier than Kim Chol, vice minister of the army, who was executed with a mortar round in October 2012.

So, did they aim it at him?
Or maybe make the guy sit on the mortal while remotely detonating it?

I just can't wrap my head around the logistics of this. It seems like a lot of effort to take someone out. You have to commend the fat little guy's imagination though.

:suspicious: